Transformers Power of the Primes Deluxe Wave 2 Video Reviews

DecepticonFinishline wrote:
Even then, Wave 1 came out in 2017. I, also, understand that everything in PotP has showed up before it's "official" release date. I don't know what Wave 1's official release date was, but tons of people (in the states, at least) had their Wave 1 Legends and Deluxes before Christmas.

This is nothing new and happened in CW and TR as well. The "official" release date is really just an estimate on when the toys should hit full saturation. So anything that is intended for Q1 of any year will start leaking out in late Q4 of the year before.

The Combaticons were wave 5 of CW, which was slotted for Q1 of 2016 but started showing up before Christmas of 2015. Wave 3 of TR was slotted for Q1 2017 but started showing up before Christmas of 2016. Just like PotP wave 1 last Christmas.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:A small reminder that Predaking has his own thread, because he's that awesome:

Power of the Primes Predaking Thread

You mean because he's that crappy.

So, now that we know what we know about PotP only being 4 waves, and combine that with how TR ended, does anyone have any idea or speculation on what might have changed for Hasbro?

I mean they went all out on squeezing every ounce out of the molds that they could in CW, then had more individual changes in TR with only a handful of molds getting only a new head re-deco without additional tooling changes, and now even fewer straight up redecos in PotP.

They are basically putting out fewer toys at a higher expense to develop them in each line. It just doesn't make sense to me. It seems like they left a lot of potential $$$ on the table.

Something must have happened to change their overall direction somewhere in the middle of TR. I wonder if it is something as dumb as just wanting each line to fit within a year or some other corporate type decision?

Rated X wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:

Sjeng wrote:ok.. this is pretty damn disappointing though:







the upper legs and hips are simply hung off their backs!!!

if they didnt do it that way with predakings upper legs attached to the lower legs razerclaw would end up being a leader class size but i still think predaking is going to be a bit shorter than devastator for being a titan class

Thats horrible. This is why parts integration sucks. I would rather those things just pop off so you can throw em in a box when not combined. Looks like ill be staying happy with Feral Rex and skipping Hasbroking.

I agree. I'd rather the thighs be separate pieces like hands and feet. Was there an actual reason to have them attached rather than removable? My best guess is having them attached provides better stability in combined mode so there is the trade off. As ugly as it is if I can get it on a good sale I'm going for it.

I think we could see some boxed sets to end PotP. If Monstructor is basically good to go then he could be an end of line boxed set or he could fit into the War for Cybertron line coming next. The Seacons would also make an excellent end of line boxed set, even better than Monstructrot because the latter is supposed to have a torso made of two deluxe figures and I have seen little from that tells me they are ready to do that yet (only Devastator). Same for Dinoking, the retool. But Piranacon is standard voyager with 5 limbs and 1 extra since all limbs become guns. I don't see making the gun feature, but I did read someone else suggesting they may choose one of the 6 deluxes to make a legends class figure that turns into a weapon. I can see that as part of the set.

Since I'm waiting for the big end of year sales to hopefully get Predaking I can wait for to possibly announce end of line boxed sets for the other combiners. If they do and one is Piranacon I may go with him instead of Predaking because I really liked King Poseidon in Masterforce. I'm glad I have time to figure out what I want to do and that I will have a nice collecting break for a while to save some money (some of which has to go into 3rd party weapons and Reprolabels for some toys).

I hate to say this, but I'm getting sick and tired of the lack of extras at the Titan class. If the SDCC version doesn't give predaking swords, I'm definitely waiting until he goes on major sale on Black Friday so that I can afford some extras for him. Metroplex with only one gun and none of the awesome extras associated with it, Devastator with no individual weapons, Fort Max with nothing, Trypticon with no tank, Predaking with no swords. To me, the Titan class should be about the awesomeness, not about how much profit they can make on a cheap huge transformer.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:So, now that we know what we know about PotP only being 4 waves, and combine that with how TR ended, does anyone have any idea or speculation on what might have changed for Hasbro?

I mean they went all out on squeezing every ounce out of the molds that they could in CW, then had more individual changes in TR with only a handful of molds getting only a new head re-deco without additional tooling changes, and now even fewer straight up redecos in PotP.

They are basically putting out fewer toys at a higher expense to develop them in each line. It just doesn't make sense to me. It seems like they left a lot of potential $$$ on the table.

Something must have happened to change their overall direction somewhere in the middle of TR. I wonder if it is something as dumb as just wanting each line to fit within a year or some other corporate type decision?

You have to remember that a lot of the toys put out in POTP are reusing pre-existing tooling and engineering. A lot of resources were put into the new combiner system and they are still reaping off it here. The aerialbot tooling has been used so often, that Dreadwind probably cost nothing to make

Plus, while we didnt have any straight up redecos for leaders in TR's mainline, one of the only 4 Leaders in POTP is just a redeco with a new head. We only had redecos that "lazy" in boxsets.

Alright, I am calling it right now. I think boxsets or exclusives will be how we get the remaining 3 Prime Masters.

We have Prima, Nexus Prime, and Amalgamous Prime.

So we know the Waverider mold exists, and is an Autobot. Chances are they will try to keep it with an Autobot pack if so (but precedent has been set with Grotusque that it doesn't have to). I think Prima goes with Waverider, but beyond that, I am unsure. My guess is, being an Autobot, it's more along the lines of the Arcee/Grotusque release than a boxset.

Nexus Prime, is commonly referred to as the first combiner. This is where I think a Boxset with Monstructor/Dinoking or the Seacons come in. At this point I see the Seacons as less likely than Dinoking/Monstructor.

I'm having a hard time deciding which of the 2 it would be though (between Dinoking/Monstructor). On one hand, we saw Wildfly's head on Cutthroat, which is more in line with Monstructor. But the guns on Snarl, suggest Doryu of Dinoking. What I think they may try to do is keep the names of the Monstructor bots, but go with the easy fits for the actual figures. Wildfly -> Cutthroat retool, Scowl -> Snarl retool, Slog -> Grimlock retool, Icepick -> Blot retool, Bristleback -> Slug retool, Birdbraid -> Cindersaur/Slash retool (if even included). The flipside is it could be a straight up Dinoking, using the Monstructor names, and the Wildfly head on Cutthroat was to test it in the mold in general (remember Cutthroat and Swoop are "co-tools"). Tbh, I would be ok either way.


Amalgamous, maybe he's coming with the rumored Repugnus?


The flip-side, is that maybe, just maybe, there is more to Wave 4 than has been revealed. Maybe we will get a few more legends and Prime Masters. Only 3 Prime Masters left if Onyx is exclusive to Predaking, which is easy to fit in a single wave.

Also, I kinda wish whoever was interviewing John Warden could have asked some questions about the shortened structure of PotP. Like, if the plan was always to keep it shortened, or if happened later in the design/planning process. I would love to know what they wanted to do if they had a full 6 waves.

Any more word on the Wreck-Gar and Blastoff exclusives?

Targetmaster Kup wrote:Any more word on the Wreck-Gar and Blastoff exclusives?

Well Warden said this:

[quote]Exclusives?

Only TRU Thundercracker announced for now, but we do have more lined up for the year.[/quote]

That TRU Thundercracker uses the Movie Nitro mold. Why they couldnt instead do a Thunderwing redeco, I have no clue.

I dont know why is always thundercracker.

First MP11 mold to get US distribution: Thudercracker

First Gen Leader Seeker Revealed: Thundercacker

Big TRU Exclusive of 2018: Thundecracker

Oh yeah, this also means that there is now 0 evidence toward them repainting the POTP Voyager starscream into the other seekers.

I keep saying it but: Seacons would be piss-easy to make out of PotP molds except Snaptrap. If they intend to save them for later but keep the same core engineering from the Prime Wars trilogy, these guys are entirely doable by remolding the Terrorcons. Snaptrap is also doable if you massive retool the exterior of Grimlock to enable quadrupedal stance.

So who knows? Maybe if the Seacon or Monster Pretenders DO appear in later Generations line, they'd be made from at-that-point years-old molds.

My Targets have wave2 Voyagers now, but still no deluxes -- some have a sale on wave1, though!

My Target had wave 2 they day we reported on it so I did use the sightings page. I figured because the email with pics was already there that EmirateXaaron probably did find them an hour or so sooner than me so giving them credit was the fair thing to do. Either way I am just happy to have gotten Jazz during Target's 10% off sale so I can gift him to my sick friend. (She is on the mend and will be back to work shortly!) I know she wanted the RiD Jazz but I did convince her that the PotP one had nicer details.

WreckerJack wrote:My Target had wave 2 they day we reported on it so I did use the sightings page. I figured because the email with pics was already there that EmirateXaaron probably did find them an hour or so sooner than me so giving them credit was the fair thing to do. Either way I am just happy to have gotten Jazz during Target's 10% off sale so I can gift him to my sick friend. (She is on the mend and will be back to work shortly!) I know she wanted the RiD Jazz but I did convince her that the PotP one had nicer details.

You can always show her this image to compare

POTP



RID



That Hasbro RID Jazz in vehicle mode will always look like an embarassement.

william-james88 wrote:

That Hasbro RID Jazz in vehicle mode will always look like an embarassement.

Quick someone call reprolabels! I am certain she will like PotP Jazz.

Directly from Hasbro, we have a new batch of official images (collected in their own gallery too) for toys 'revealed' (some more than others, admittedly) at New York Toy Fair 2018 for the Transformers: Power of the Primes line, and its various size class, from Legends to Leader, via Prime Masters and Deluxe!

The smallest Prime Masters and decoy suits include Bomb-Burst with Megatronus, Bludgeon with Quintus Prime, and Octopunch with Solus Prime; the Legends class include Tailgate (who shares the mold with Windcharger) and the Duocons Battleslash and Roadtrap, combining into Roadtrap; the Deluxes are the mold-sharing Novastar (Firestar to you and me) and Moonracer; Voyager wise we have triple changing - Elita-Infin1te combiner torso, robot and jet - Elita-1; and finally Leader with evolution gimmick for Optimus Primal and Optimal Optimus. Check them all out below, in official renders and artwork, and browse out galleries for a close look!

PRIME MASTERS














LEGEND CLASS




















DELUXE CLASS














VOYAGER CLASS








LEADER CLASS

mordhelm wrote:Alright, I am calling it right now. I think boxsets or exclusives will be how we get the remaining 3 Prime Masters.

This is what I really hope happens. Personally I'd rather have box sets with a mixture of different characters instead of Combiners, like the Titans Return sets, but I'd be happy if the last three Prime Masters just came with exclusive Deluxes as well.

That artwork is absolutely perfect. They need to make posters and shirts with that on it. I would buy the crap out of it.

Munkky wrote:

mordhelm wrote:Alright, I am calling it right now. I think boxsets or exclusives will be how we get the remaining 3 Prime Masters.

This is what I really hope happens. Personally I'd rather have box sets with a mixture of different characters instead of Combiners, like the Titans Return sets, but I'd be happy if the last three Prime Masters just came with exclusive Deluxes as well.

Except those "exclusives" are often not available to fans outside of the US unless they're willing to fork out a shit tonne of money.

It would be further indication that Hasbro just don't give a fuck about international fans.

Burn wrote:

Munkky wrote:

mordhelm wrote:Alright, I am calling it right now. I think boxsets or exclusives will be how we get the remaining 3 Prime Masters.

This is what I really hope happens. Personally I'd rather have box sets with a mixture of different characters instead of Combiners, like the Titans Return sets, but I'd be happy if the last three Prime Masters just came with exclusive Deluxes as well.

Except those "exclusives" are often not available to fans outside of the US unless they're willing to fork out a **** tonne of money.

It would be further indication that Hasbro just don't give a **** about international fans.

Aside from when Europe got G1. 5 when did hasbro ever care about us?