Transformers: The Last Knight - Possible Return of Dino / Mirage on London Set
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Posted by Noideaforaname on September 10th, 2016 @ 11:38am CDT
Posted by Kurona on September 10th, 2016 @ 11:40am CDT
Posted by Microraptor on September 10th, 2016 @ 12:19pm CDT
Posted by Madeus Prime on September 10th, 2016 @ 12:43pm CDT
Posted by Microraptor on September 10th, 2016 @ 1:19pm CDT
Madeus Prime wrote:Wonderful, another stereotype character is coming back.
I wouldn't call him a stereotype. He had a (legit) Italian accent and that was it.
Posted by MGrotusque on September 10th, 2016 @ 1:30pm CDT
Posted by Microraptor on September 10th, 2016 @ 1:38pm CDT
MGrotusque wrote:Speaking of stereotypes, I wonder why Cybertronians even have Earth based accents. I don't really get how that gets factored into the development of a character. Why aren't there transformers with Swahili accents or Russian accents.
Convention. An accent can help you get a specific mental image of a character, and it makes them more identifiable then they would be if everyone just had a northeastern american one or something. In-universe, I assume it matters where they land and what their first data scans would be like. If some random autobot lands in Germany and the first broadcast it picks up is a german-language sitcom, they're going to pick up that accent.
Posted by Madeus Prime on September 10th, 2016 @ 1:40pm CDT
MGrotusque wrote:Speaking of stereotypes, I wonder why Cybertronians even have Earth based accents. I don't really get how that gets factored into the development of a character. Why aren't there transformers with Swahili accents or Russian accents.
Unless it does something really cool for a character, I've always felt accents are overused in Transformers as a whole. For example, Cybertron with it's Texan Skywarp, Australian Jetfire felt unnecessary, but the New York accents of Ransack and Crumplezone were golden (in my opinion).
Now for the movies, I'd be okay if they used accents liberally, but not to the point of giving characters such strong accents that they feel like stereotypes, regardless of the stereotype laden writing (looking at you Skids and Mudflap). For example, Ken Wantanabe may naturally have a strong Japanese accent, but I've seen films where he's had a softer accent. Why this couldn't be applied to Drift? We'll never know.
Posted by Tyrannacon on September 10th, 2016 @ 2:31pm CDT
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Posted by Deadput on September 10th, 2016 @ 3:06pm CDT
Madeus Prime wrote:Wonderful, another stereotype character is coming back.
In some other part of the world your probably considered a stereotype.
And even if he was you do know just because someone is a stereotype doesn't mean it's a bad thing right?
Look at the G1 cartoon for example it has a lot of similar characters there.
Posted by Emerje on September 10th, 2016 @ 3:08pm CDT
MGrotusque wrote:Speaking of stereotypes, I wonder why Cybertronians even have Earth based accents. I don't really get how that gets factored into the development of a character. Why aren't there transformers with Swahili accents or Russian accents.
It was explained in the very first movie that they picked up the Earth languages through the Internet so their accents would have been derived from whatever it was they gravitated towards on the web.
Emerje
Posted by Deadput on September 10th, 2016 @ 3:18pm CDT
Madeus Prime wrote:Unless it does something really cool for a character, I've always felt accents are overused in Transformers as a whole. For example, Cybertron with it's Texan Skywarp, Australian Jetfire felt unnecessary, but the New York accents of Ransack and Crumplezone were golden (in my opinion).
Skywarp was in Cybertron?
Guess I never saw him with Thundercracker on the screen all the time.
Posted by Sabrblade on September 10th, 2016 @ 3:43pm CDT
Posted by Deadput on September 10th, 2016 @ 5:18pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Since DOTM went out of its way to make Dino be an Italian car model with an Italian name and an Italian voice actor, I really don't think they'd break that setup with the character. So with this not being an Italian car model, and with Francesco Quinn having passed away, I really don't think this is Dino.
If they were to bring him back they probably don't want to deal with Ferrari's ridiculous contract again.
They would also probably change his name from Dino to Mirage.
Plus Sideswipe had his voice actor changed in between rotf and dotm.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on September 10th, 2016 @ 7:53pm CDT
Posted by Deadput on September 10th, 2016 @ 10:56pm CDT
Nemesis Maximo wrote:I'm thinking this is either; Stinger brought back to life by Megatron or something, or Hot Rod is going to get a more conventional color scheme in the film the way Bumblebee did in the last one.
Red car is not hot rod he has been seen separately from this guy.
Also according to people who have been on set Cogman is being referred to as an Autobot.
Posted by Madeus Prime on September 11th, 2016 @ 12:05am CDT
Deadput wrote:In some other part of the world your probably considered a stereotype.
And even if he was you do know just because someone is a stereotype doesn't mean it's a bad thing right?
Look at the G1 cartoon for example it has a lot of similar characters there.
That's fair. But please, do not presume me to be a stereotype when you don't personally know me.
I'm just saying that it's extremely "normal" for modern films to just default to having characters of a certain nationality always operate like the stereotypes that are given in most forms of entertainment. I am just sick of it, regardless of it being associated with Transformers in the current discussion.
And yeah, G1 had stereotypes, and looking back, they were pretty bad. But that was another era culturally, and I feel that we should've matured in terms of foreign representation in films and TV. Of course, these films are proof we have only matured in terms of visual quality and nothing else.

Deadput wrote:Skywarp was in Cybertron? Guess I never saw him with Thundercracker on the screen all the time.
Pardon my error, I was getting ready for a good friend's wedding. I was in a rush.

Posted by Va'al on September 11th, 2016 @ 5:18am CDT
Noideaforaname wrote:Oh boy. A high-end sports car in the live-action movies, how novel.
I need to report it all nonetheless. Feel for me.
Posted by Nerdimus Maximus on September 11th, 2016 @ 9:56am CDT
The word is that Sir Anthony Hopkins
is providing the voice of UNICRON.
>>I hope this is true<<


