Transformers: The Last Knight - Possible Return of Dino / Mirage on London Set

Oh boy. A high-end sports car in the live-action movies, how novel.

Is it just me or does this give off a RiD Sideswipe vibe

Why does every red car have to be Dino?

Wonderful, another stereotype character is coming back.

Madeus Prime wrote:Wonderful, another stereotype character is coming back.

I wouldn't call him a stereotype. He had a (legit) Italian accent and that was it.

Speaking of stereotypes, I wonder why Cybertronians even have Earth based accents. I don't really get how that gets factored into the development of a character. Why aren't there transformers with Swahili accents or Russian accents.

MGrotusque wrote:Speaking of stereotypes, I wonder why Cybertronians even have Earth based accents. I don't really get how that gets factored into the development of a character. Why aren't there transformers with Swahili accents or Russian accents.

Convention. An accent can help you get a specific mental image of a character, and it makes them more identifiable then they would be if everyone just had a northeastern american one or something. In-universe, I assume it matters where they land and what their first data scans would be like. If some random autobot lands in Germany and the first broadcast it picks up is a german-language sitcom, they're going to pick up that accent.

MGrotusque wrote:Speaking of stereotypes, I wonder why Cybertronians even have Earth based accents. I don't really get how that gets factored into the development of a character. Why aren't there transformers with Swahili accents or Russian accents.

Unless it does something really cool for a character, I've always felt accents are overused in Transformers as a whole. For example, Cybertron with it's Texan Skywarp, Australian Jetfire felt unnecessary, but the New York accents of Ransack and Crumplezone were golden (in my opinion).

Now for the movies, I'd be okay if they used accents liberally, but not to the point of giving characters such strong accents that they feel like stereotypes, regardless of the stereotype laden writing (looking at you Skids and Mudflap). For example, Ken Wantanabe may naturally have a strong Japanese accent, but I've seen films where he's had a softer accent. Why this couldn't be applied to Drift? We'll never know.

Saw this on social media, but someone suggested the car could be "Stinger" brought back from the fourth film (even though they got scrapped). But eh. I guess we won't know until the movie comes out or more information is released.

Cool! Hopefully he gets a good toy to represent him this time, oh and it comes to America.

Madeus Prime wrote:Wonderful, another stereotype character is coming back.

In some other part of the world your probably considered a stereotype.

And even if he was you do know just because someone is a stereotype doesn't mean it's a bad thing right?


Look at the G1 cartoon for example it has a lot of similar characters there.

MGrotusque wrote:Speaking of stereotypes, I wonder why Cybertronians even have Earth based accents. I don't really get how that gets factored into the development of a character. Why aren't there transformers with Swahili accents or Russian accents.

It was explained in the very first movie that they picked up the Earth languages through the Internet so their accents would have been derived from whatever it was they gravitated towards on the web.

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Madeus Prime wrote:Unless it does something really cool for a character, I've always felt accents are overused in Transformers as a whole. For example, Cybertron with it's Texan Skywarp, Australian Jetfire felt unnecessary, but the New York accents of Ransack and Crumplezone were golden (in my opinion).

Skywarp was in Cybertron?


Guess I never saw him with Thundercracker on the screen all the time.

Since DOTM went out of its way to make Dino be an Italian car model with an Italian name and an Italian voice actor, I really don't think they'd break that setup with the character. So with this not being an Italian car model, and with Francesco Quinn having passed away, I really don't think this is Dino.

Sabrblade wrote:Since DOTM went out of its way to make Dino be an Italian car model with an Italian name and an Italian voice actor, I really don't think they'd break that setup with the character. So with this not being an Italian car model, and with Francesco Quinn having passed away, I really don't think this is Dino.

If they were to bring him back they probably don't want to deal with Ferrari's ridiculous contract again.

They would also probably change his name from Dino to Mirage.

Plus Sideswipe had his voice actor changed in between rotf and dotm.

I'm thinking this is either; Stinger brought back to life by Megatron or something, or Hot Rod is going to get a more conventional color scheme in the film the way Bumblebee did in the last one.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:I'm thinking this is either; Stinger brought back to life by Megatron or something, or Hot Rod is going to get a more conventional color scheme in the film the way Bumblebee did in the last one.

Red car is not hot rod he has been seen separately from this guy.


Also according to people who have been on set Cogman is being referred to as an Autobot.

Deadput wrote:In some other part of the world your probably considered a stereotype.
And even if he was you do know just because someone is a stereotype doesn't mean it's a bad thing right?
Look at the G1 cartoon for example it has a lot of similar characters there.

That's fair. But please, do not presume me to be a stereotype when you don't personally know me.

I'm just saying that it's extremely "normal" for modern films to just default to having characters of a certain nationality always operate like the stereotypes that are given in most forms of entertainment. I am just sick of it, regardless of it being associated with Transformers in the current discussion.

And yeah, G1 had stereotypes, and looking back, they were pretty bad. But that was another era culturally, and I feel that we should've matured in terms of foreign representation in films and TV. Of course, these films are proof we have only matured in terms of visual quality and nothing else.

Deadput wrote:Skywarp was in Cybertron? Guess I never saw him with Thundercracker on the screen all the time.

Pardon my error, I was getting ready for a good friend's wedding. I was in a rush.

Noideaforaname wrote:Oh boy. A high-end sports car in the live-action movies, how novel.

I need to report it all nonetheless. Feel for me.

Not sure if this is already known or not.
The word is that Sir Anthony Hopkins
is providing the voice of UNICRON.
>>I hope this is true<<