Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave

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The second Takara Tomy Transformers Legends piece of news today is an image from the official Twitter account - shared by our own Cyberpath - showing the differences between the Hasbro and Takara versions of Leader class Soundwave, other than the omnipresent red vs yellow visor. Check it out below!

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Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1848775)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 25th, 2016 @ 12:11pm CST

The new facesculpt on Brainstorm looks so crisp and clear. A sharp-looking retool, if I do say so myself.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1848791)
Posted by AutoArtBotX on December 25th, 2016 @ 1:53pm CST

Sometimes when I see a repaint/retool of a figure from Takara Tomy, I have this "Oh my gosh that is a million times better!" reaction. This, not so much. Now the difference between the TItans return Blaster and Takara/Tomy Legends Blaster are much more drastic than this.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1848800)
Posted by Kurona on December 25th, 2016 @ 3:34pm CST

AutoArtBotX wrote:Sometimes when I see a repaint/retool of a figure from Takara Tomy, I have this "Oh my gosh that is a million times better!" reaction. This, not so much. Now the difference between the TItans return Blaster and Takara/Tomy Legends Blaster are much more drastic than this.

In general that's happening a lot with the Titans Return figures. A few exceptions to the rule like Blurr aside, Takara's takes are either barely different; or are only drastically different due to representing a different version of the character rather than just being better - ie Takara's Brainstorm is very different to SDCC Brainstorm, but you can't really say one's better than the other when one's a very good representation of Headmasters Brainstorm and the other is a very good representation of MTMTE Brainstorm.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1848811)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 25th, 2016 @ 6:56pm CST

Being a stoopid carbon based bag of flesh who just isn't satisfied ( I did managed to keep Twincast from popping out insistently by careful angling 45 degrees with his neck groove to the neck clamp)I would have preferred if Broadcast had the black feet of TR Blaster.

I'm 50%/50% on his face being unpainted as the TR Blaster silver paint apps aren't that nicely applied.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1848812)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 25th, 2016 @ 6:59pm CST

AutoArtBotX wrote:Sometimes when I see a repaint/retool of a figure from Takara Tomy, I have this "Oh my gosh that is a million times better!" reaction. This, not so much. Now the difference between the TItans return Blaster and Takara/Tomy Legends Blaster are much more drastic than this.

Blaster to Broadcast: Different paint apps and decal placements. Different feet

Brainstorm to Brainstorm: Different Headmaster and paint apps plus extra vehicle/weapon. (Not drastic?) :???:

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1848818)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 25th, 2016 @ 7:41pm CST

Kurona wrote:
AutoArtBotX wrote:Sometimes when I see a repaint/retool of a figure from Takara Tomy, I have this "Oh my gosh that is a million times better!" reaction. This, not so much. Now the difference between the TItans return Blaster and Takara/Tomy Legends Blaster are much more drastic than this.

In general that's happening a lot with the Titans Return figures. A few exceptions to the rule like Blurr aside, Takara's takes are either barely different; or are only drastically different due to representing a different version of the character rather than just being better - ie Takara's Brainstorm is very different to SDCC Brainstorm, but you can't really say one's better than the other when one's a very good representation of Headmasters Brainstorm and the other is a very good representation of MTMTE Brainstorm.

fenrir72 wrote:
AutoArtBotX wrote:Sometimes when I see a repaint/retool of a figure from Takara Tomy, I have this "Oh my gosh that is a million times better!" reaction. This, not so much. Now the difference between the TItans return Blaster and Takara/Tomy Legends Blaster are much more drastic than this.

Blaster to Broadcast: Different paint apps and decal placements. Different feet

Brainstorm to Brainstorm: Different Headmaster and paint apps plus extra vehicle/weapon. (Not drastic?)

I thought AutoArtBotX was talking about the Soundwaves.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1848851)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 26th, 2016 @ 5:55am CST

Sabrblade wrote:
Kurona wrote:
AutoArtBotX wrote:Sometimes when I see a repaint/retool of a figure from Takara Tomy, I have this "Oh my gosh that is a million times better!" reaction. This, not so much. Now the difference between the TItans return Blaster and Takara/Tomy Legends Blaster are much more drastic than this.

In general that's happening a lot with the Titans Return figures. A few exceptions to the rule like Blurr aside, Takara's takes are either barely different; or are only drastically different due to representing a different version of the character rather than just being better - ie Takara's Brainstorm is very different to SDCC Brainstorm, but you can't really say one's better than the other when one's a very good representation of Headmasters Brainstorm and the other is a very good representation of MTMTE Brainstorm.
fenrir72 wrote:
AutoArtBotX wrote:Sometimes when I see a repaint/retool of a figure from Takara Tomy, I have this "Oh my gosh that is a million times better!" reaction. This, not so much. Now the difference between the TItans return Blaster and Takara/Tomy Legends Blaster are much more drastic than this.

Blaster to Broadcast: Different paint apps and decal placements. Different feet

Brainstorm to Brainstorm: Different Headmaster and paint apps plus extra vehicle/weapon. (Not drastic?)

I thought AutoArtBotX was talking about the Soundwaves.

Why not ask him? I'm not a telepath like Soundwave

Anyway I already have a notice from amiami

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1848852)
Posted by frogbat on December 26th, 2016 @ 7:08am CST

still think the fact they didn't include his iconic handgun is a bit of a let down (besides other issues I might have). Takara seem to have tried to address the issue with the silver painted muzzle but it's still far away... at least there's the shoulder cannon.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1848868)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 26th, 2016 @ 9:40am CST

frogbat wrote:still think the fact they didn't include his iconic handgun is a bit of a let down (besides other issues I might have). Takara seem to have tried to address the issue with the silver painted muzzle but it's still far away... at least there's the shoulder cannon.

Another shoulder cannon would have had broken the bank for Takara...major bummer!

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1848884)
Posted by Cyberpath on December 26th, 2016 @ 2:25pm CST

fenrir72 wrote:Anyway I already have a notice from amiami

Me too from HLJ! And still waiting for the last three Headmasters & MP Inferno to arrive. The mail is probably clogged with eveyone's Black Friday / Cyber Monday stuff.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1848977)
Posted by xMXUx on December 27th, 2016 @ 5:13am CST

Cyberpath wrote:Me too from HLJ! And still waiting for the last three Headmasters & MP Inferno to arrive. The mail is probably clogged with eveyone's Black Friday / Cyber Monday stuff.

Same, Ginrai shipped yesterday from AE and Inferno is still somewhere on the way. Was expecting him for Christmas, but oh well.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849051)
Posted by grimdragon2001 on December 27th, 2016 @ 2:02pm CST

think im gonna be waiting on TF Source for a while yet, but after the whole Computron debacle, I dont feel good about ordering from Japan right now. Plus i have enough on preorder coming in at that time to get free shipping

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849058)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 27th, 2016 @ 2:28pm CST

Alfes2010 has the first blog up for LG35 Super Ginrai, displaying the Vehicle and Zone (base) modes:

Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai: Vehicle Mode & Zone Mode

Parts of the accompanying comic are included (with a rough Google Translation) and a certain enemy makes its debut (HINT: It's not Overlord). Don't try everything he's attempted, especially fitting Goshooter inside the trailer!

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849122)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 27th, 2016 @ 10:53pm CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Alfes2010 has the first blog up for LG35 Super Ginrai, displaying the Vehicle and Zone (base) modes:

Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai: Vehicle Mode & Zone Mode

Parts of the accompanying comic are included (with a rough Google Translation) and a certain enemy makes its debut (HINT: It's not Overlord). Don't try everything he's attempted, especially fitting Goshooter inside the trailer!

So it IS Ginrai! The human Ginrai! Whatever happened to the sentient transtector post SGMF!

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849123)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 27th, 2016 @ 10:55pm CST

fenrir72 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Alfes2010 has the first blog up for LG35 Super Ginrai, displaying the Vehicle and Zone (base) modes:

Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai: Vehicle Mode & Zone Mode

Parts of the accompanying comic are included (with a rough Google Translation) and a certain enemy makes its debut (HINT: It's not Overlord). Don't try everything he's attempted, especially fitting Goshooter inside the trailer!

So it IS Ginrai! The human Ginrai! Whatever happened to the sentient transtector post SGMF!

Spoiler: in the Victory anime it followed the age old tradition of Optimus Prime. He was then reformatted into a plot device.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849124)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 27th, 2016 @ 10:56pm CST

fenrir72 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Alfes2010 has the first blog up for LG35 Super Ginrai, displaying the Vehicle and Zone (base) modes:

Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai: Vehicle Mode & Zone Mode

Parts of the accompanying comic are included (with a rough Google Translation) and a certain enemy makes its debut (HINT: It's not Overlord). Don't try everything he's attempted, especially fitting Goshooter inside the trailer!

So it IS Ginrai! The human Ginrai! Whatever happened to the sentient transtector post SGMF!

He's with his team in the G Nebula 89, as we saw in the Shockwave & Cancer Prologue comic.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849137)
Posted by Cyberpath on December 28th, 2016 @ 12:26am CST

More from Alfes2010--

The gang is all here.

Soundwave's docking station mode, by MKstsk --

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849139)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 28th, 2016 @ 12:51am CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Alfes2010 has the first blog up for LG35 Super Ginrai, displaying the Vehicle and Zone (base) modes:

Transformers Legends LG35 Super Ginrai: Vehicle Mode & Zone Mode

Parts of the accompanying comic are included (with a rough Google Translation) and a certain enemy makes its debut (HINT: It's not Overlord). Don't try everything he's attempted, especially fitting Goshooter inside the trailer!

So it IS Ginrai! The human Ginrai! Whatever happened to the sentient transtector post SGMF!

Spoiler: in the Victory anime it followed the age old tradition of Optimus Prime. He was then reformatted into a plot device.

Now I want to know what happened to the sentient transtector Ginrai then? Did he get bombarded by the blackball bomb too? Why didn't this "Ginrai" show up in Victory? Need need need trivia update 8-}

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849141)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on December 28th, 2016 @ 1:36am CST

fenrir72 wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:What's up with the sword that comes with God Bomber and is used by God Ginrai?

In Victory, GG (Godginrai) also wielded a sword.

Did it have some epic name? I'm kinda surprised it wasn't included with the God Ginrai reissue or the candy toy

fenrir72 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Just got some confirmation about a couple neat things pertaining to the new Godbomber figure.

The Transformers Generations 2017 book says that Godbomber's Headmaster is not based on anything preexisting. It's a new design.

And according to Figure King #227, Godbomber is fully transformable from trailer mode to robot mode and back without any partsforming involved (minus the Headmaster, of course). Only when he becomes armor for Ginrai does he need some parts to be removed, but not between his vehicle and robot modes.

Meaning as compared to the original that required partsforming for both modes, it's only the power up that requires it. That's already a given based on the hinges seen in the hobbymag images. Seems to be following what the "original" Godbomber design intended but was eventually scraped.

Man that extra rifle looks cool. Sorta like the rifle from Ultra Magnus that PM Optimus Prime uses. Hopefully I'll have mine soon.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849144)
Posted by King Kuuga on December 28th, 2016 @ 2:39am CST

fenrir72 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:So it IS Ginrai! The human Ginrai! Whatever happened to the sentient transtector post SGMF!

Spoiler: in the Victory anime it followed the age old tradition of Optimus Prime. He was then reformatted into a plot device.

Now I want to know what happened to the sentient transtector Ginrai then? Did he get bombarded by the blackball bomb too? Why didn't this "Ginrai" show up in Victory? Need need need trivia update

Robot Ginrai died and was rebuilt into Victory Leo.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849147)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 28th, 2016 @ 3:29am CST

King Kuuga wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:So it IS Ginrai! The human Ginrai! Whatever happened to the sentient transtector post SGMF!

Spoiler: in the Victory anime it followed the age old tradition of Optimus Prime. He was then reformatted into a plot device.

Now I want to know what happened to the sentient transtector Ginrai then? Did he get bombarded by the blackball bomb too? Why didn't this "Ginrai" show up in Victory? Need need need trivia update

Robot Ginrai died and was rebuilt into Victory Leo.

I know that. But what happened to him (Ginrai the transtector not the Godmaster) in this "Legends" universe. This happens in between SGMF and TFV.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:What's up with the sword that comes with God Bomber and is used by God Ginrai?

In Victory, GG (Godginrai) also wielded a sword.

Did it have some epic name? I'm kinda surprised it wasn't included with the God Ginrai reissue or the candy toy

fenrir72 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Just got some confirmation about a couple neat things pertaining to the new Godbomber figure.

The Transformers Generations 2017 book says that Godbomber's Headmaster is not based on anything preexisting. It's a new design.

And according to Figure King #227, Godbomber is fully transformable from trailer mode to robot mode and back without any partsforming involved (minus the Headmaster, of course). Only when he becomes armor for Ginrai does he need some parts to be removed, but not between his vehicle and robot modes.

Meaning as compared to the original that required partsforming for both modes, it's only the power up that requires it. That's already a given based on the hinges seen in the hobbymag images. Seems to be following what the "original" Godbomber design intended but was eventually scraped.

Man that extra rifle looks cool. Sorta like the rifle from Ultra Magnus that PM Optimus Prime uses. Hopefully I'll have mine soon.

No special name for his sword unlike Starsaber's Saber blade.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849166)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 28th, 2016 @ 8:58am CST

fenrir72 wrote:
King Kuuga wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:So it IS Ginrai! The human Ginrai! Whatever happened to the sentient transtector post SGMF!

Spoiler: in the Victory anime it followed the age old tradition of Optimus Prime. He was then reformatted into a plot device.

Now I want to know what happened to the sentient transtector Ginrai then? Did he get bombarded by the blackball bomb too? Why didn't this "Ginrai" show up in Victory? Need need need trivia update

Robot Ginrai died and was rebuilt into Victory Leo.

I know that. But what happened to him (Ginrai the transtector not the Godmaster) in this "Legends" universe. This happens in between SGMF and TFV.

I just told you:

Sabrblade wrote:He's with his team in the G Nebula 89, as we saw in the Shockwave & Cancer Prologue comic.

He's not in the Legends Universe.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849174)
Posted by Overcracker on December 28th, 2016 @ 10:01am CST

Finally... I was able to log into my PayPal account and pay for the shipping for Super Jinrai. For some reason Paypal was having issues with my password. Had to change it, and let a couple days go by before I could log in.

Can't wait to get him. He looks awesome.

Then wait a few months until God Bomber is released, that's going to be hard.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849184)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 28th, 2016 @ 11:23am CST

Sabrblade wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
King Kuuga wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:So it IS Ginrai! The human Ginrai! Whatever happened to the sentient transtector post SGMF!

Spoiler: in the Victory anime it followed the age old tradition of Optimus Prime. He was then reformatted into a plot device.

Now I want to know what happened to the sentient transtector Ginrai then? Did he get bombarded by the blackball bomb too? Why didn't this "Ginrai" show up in Victory? Need need need trivia update

Robot Ginrai died and was rebuilt into Victory Leo.

I know that. But what happened to him (Ginrai the transtector not the Godmaster) in this "Legends" universe. This happens in between SGMF and TFV.
I just told you:
Sabrblade wrote:He's with his team in the G Nebula 89, as we saw in the Shockwave & Cancer Prologue comic.
He's not in the Legends Universe.

Wipe is not in the Legends Universe too? What's he doing back bruising up Ginrai? He wasn't affected by the black ball bomb(Wipe I mean)? Someone please translate Vipe's comic too.

So where's the sentient transtector Ginrai then? But if Vipe did resurrect Devil Z, then could those sentient transectors suddenly become non sentient, opposite effect we saw at the end of SGMF? Devil Z said something to that effect that he was responsible for the godmasters coming to life etc etc.......Wish those figs arrive asap and a fan based translation comes out soon.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849189)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 28th, 2016 @ 11:45am CST

fenrir72 wrote:Wipe is not in the Legends Universe too? What's he doing back bruising up Ginrai? He wasn't affected by the black ball bomb(Wipe I mean)? Someone please translate Vipe's comic too.

You asked about Ginrai, not Wipe. Wipe got sent to the Legends Universe. Super robot lifeform God Ginrai didn't.

fenrir72 wrote:So where's the sentient transtector Ginrai then?

In. The. G. Nebula. 89! How is that so hard to understand?

Look at him right there, in the middle-right panel:

Human Ginrai = in the Legends World somehow with a brand-spanking new lifeless Super Ginrai Transtector that he's now bonded to.

Living super robot lifeform God Ginrai = in the G Nebula 89 of the main Japanese G1 cartoon universe, still sporting his original Masterforce cartoon body and which he will still have when he goes on to appear in the Victory cartoon.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849315)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 28th, 2016 @ 8:11pm CST

Sabrblade wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Wipe is not in the Legends Universe too? What's he doing back bruising up Ginrai? He wasn't affected by the black ball bomb(Wipe I mean)? Someone please translate Vipe's comic too.
You asked about Ginrai, not Wipe. Wipe got sent to the Legends Universe. Super robot lifeform God Ginrai didn't.

fenrir72 wrote:So where's the sentient transtector Ginrai then?
In. The. G. Nebula. 89! How is that so hard to understand?

Look at him right there, in the middle-right panel:

Human Ginrai = in the Legends World somehow with a brand-spanking new lifeless Super Ginrai Transtector that he's now bonded to.

Living super robot lifeform God Ginrai = in the G Nebula 89 of the main Japanese G1 cartoon universe, still sporting his original Masterforce cartoon body and which he will still have when he goes on to appear in the Victory cartoon.

You did take a look at Alfes' mini spoilers eh? As I'm discussing about Ginrai. In Wipe's comic, Devil Z possessed his transtector. In Alfes' spoilers of the comic, Ginrai is NOW in the Legends universe. Not G Nebula.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849321)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 28th, 2016 @ 8:45pm CST

OK, maybe a change in viewpoint is needed.

First of all, a recap: at the end of SGMF all Transtectors were given proper life, and separated from their human components. In other words, the Transtector, now a true Super Robot Lifeform, and the human are now considered separate entities (and have separate wiki entries). That's how we got Goshooter with Gō Shūta as a previous Generations release: the living Transtector, and human in one release.

Let's assume the Legends Universe is set before where Victory normally would be, before 2025 (or follows the Manga continuity that has God Ginrai and Victory Leo unrelated). At that point in time, God Ginrai the living Transtector is stationed in G Nebula 89, while the human remains on Earth. The latter stumbles upon a redesigned Transtector in the Legends Universe, and bonds with it.

Of course, this now means there are two separate Ginrais in robotic bodies:

1) the original, now living Transtector
2) the human, that bonded with a new lifeless Transtector

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849344)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 29th, 2016 @ 12:07am CST

fenrir72 wrote:You did take a look at Alfes' mini spoilers eh? As I'm discussing about Ginrai. In Wipe's comic, Devil Z possessed his transtector. In Alfes' spoilers of the comic, Ginrai is NOW in the Legends universe. Not G Nebula.

That Ginrai in your pics from Alfes is the human Ginrai with a brand new lifeless Transtector, not the living robot Ginrai born from the human's previous Transtector. The human Ginrai somehow ends up in the Legends World after Masterforce and gets a new Transtector there, while the non-human living robot God Ginrai is at the same time still in his (and the human Ginrai's) native home universe over in the G Nebula 89 with his team of other non-human living robot Autobots. So as JelZe explained, there are now two Ginrais coexisting at the same time.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849356)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 29th, 2016 @ 2:35am CST

Sabrblade wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:You did take a look at Alfes' mini spoilers eh? As I'm discussing about Ginrai. In Wipe's comic, Devil Z possessed his transtector. In Alfes' spoilers of the comic, Ginrai is NOW in the Legends universe. Not G Nebula.
That Ginrai in your pics from Alfes is the human Ginrai with a brand new lifeless Transtector, not the living robot Ginrai born from the human's previous Transtector. The human Ginrai somehow ends up in the Legends World after Masterforce and gets a new Transtector there, while the non-human living robot God Ginrai is at the same time still in his (and the human Ginrai's) native home universe over in the G Nebula 89 with his team of other non-human living robot Autobots. So as JelZe explained, there are now two Ginrais coexisting at the same time.

As I said. I've discussing about human Ginrai who is now in the Legends universe as seen in Alfes' teaser. Never once did I mention that this is the sentient transtector who I've been looking for ever since this line re-introduced the godmaster with the soft fleshy center.The sentient Ginrai has no need of a secondary operator anymore.

As for the theory there are now two godmaster versions, well that's still a theory until Takara clarifies it.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849438)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 29th, 2016 @ 12:26pm CST

fenrir72 wrote:As I said. I've discussing about human Ginrai who is now in the Legends universe as seen in Alfes' teaser. Never once did I mention that this is the sentient transtector who I've been looking for ever since this line re-introduced the godmaster with the soft fleshy center.The sentient Ginrai has no need of a secondary operator anymore.

As for the theory there are now two godmaster versions, well that's still a theory until Takara clarifies it.

I didn't say two Godmaster versions, I just said two Ginrais.

And you were the one asking about the non-human living Transtector back when you first asked this:

fenrir72 wrote:Whatever happened to the sentient transtector post SGMF!

And this:

fenrir72 wrote:Now I want to know what happened to the sentient transtector Ginrai then?

And this:

fenrir72 wrote:I know that. But what happened to him (Ginrai the transtector not the Godmaster) in this "Legends" universe. This happens in between SGMF and TFV.

If you were talking about the human Ginrai the whole time and not the separate living Transtector non-human Ginrai, your words led us astray.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849454)
Posted by Va'al on December 29th, 2016 @ 1:31pm CST

Via usual toy photography suspect tagoal on Twitter, we have some in-hand images of the Takara Tomy Legends version of the Transformers Titans Return leader class LG36 Soundwave, with LG37 Ravage and LG38 Laserbeak cassetticons (plus Headmasters accompanying them), and a couple of comparisons with the Hasbro release of the three. Check them all out mirrored below!

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849462)
Posted by Randomhero on December 29th, 2016 @ 1:50pm CST

I caved and ordered Ginrai. Perfectly happy with PM Optimus but god bomber really sealed the deal. Hope he comes next week.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849477)
Posted by Autobot N on December 29th, 2016 @ 2:14pm CST

For those buying Ginrai:

PC-16.jpg

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849484)
Posted by Nexus Knight on December 29th, 2016 @ 2:20pm CST

Takara-Tomy. You're awesome. You're truly and brilliantly awesome. But those minions are supposed to be tablets... please stop trying to turn them into cassette types. It just... It just doesn't work.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849485)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on December 29th, 2016 @ 2:23pm CST

Autobot N wrote:For those buying Ginrai:
*awesome upgrade kit*

WOOO

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849486)
Posted by Sabrblade on December 29th, 2016 @ 2:24pm CST

Nexus Knight wrote:Takara-Tomy. You're awesome. You're truly and brilliantly awesome. But those minions are supposed to be tablets... please stop trying to turn them into cassette types. It just... It just doesn't work.

Look again at their screens. They still have all of the tablet display buttons and features colored in. The cassette tape designs are each tablet's wallpaper backgrounds.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849492)
Posted by Overcracker on December 29th, 2016 @ 2:50pm CST

Autobot N wrote:For those buying Ginrai:
PC-16.jpg

Awesome. Was expecting something like this. Hopefully it will not be more expensive than Jinrai himself.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849497)
Posted by Emerje on December 29th, 2016 @ 3:32pm CST

Autobot N wrote:For those buying Ginrai:
PC-16.jpg

How is this even possible? It's not as easy as removing the cab and replacing it with a transforming one, the portion of the trailer that covers the cab would also have to be removed or somehow covered up which I don't think will look as clean as the silhouette looks.

Emerje

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849500)
Posted by Randomhero on December 29th, 2016 @ 3:38pm CST

Emerje wrote:
Autobot N wrote:For those buying Ginrai:
PC-16.jpg

How is this even possible? It's not as easy as removing the cab and replacing it with a transforming one, the portion of the trailer that covers the cab would also have to be removed or somehow covered up which I don't think will look as clean as the silhouette looks.

Emerje

The cab is cake to take off. It's just on by a screw and plastic washer

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849501)
Posted by Burn on December 29th, 2016 @ 3:39pm CST

Emerje wrote:
Autobot N wrote:For those buying Ginrai:
PC-16.jpg

How is this even possible? It's not as easy as removing the cab and replacing it with a transforming one, the portion of the trailer that covers the cab would also have to be removed or somehow covered up which I don't think will look as clean as the silhouette looks.

Emerje

Conversations best held in the 3P forums.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849506)
Posted by Emerje on December 29th, 2016 @ 3:46pm CST

Randomhero wrote:
Emerje wrote:
Autobot N wrote:For those buying Ginrai:
PC-16.jpg

How is this even possible? It's not as easy as removing the cab and replacing it with a transforming one, the portion of the trailer that covers the cab would also have to be removed or somehow covered up which I don't think will look as clean as the silhouette looks.

Emerje

The cab is cake to take off. It's just on by a screw and plastic washer

I know, that's not the problem. The problem is they blacked out a large portion of the part that covers the cab which means they're either being misleading showing their "Jinrai" on the chest or we'll need an extra part to cover the cover so "Jinrai" has something to attach to which I can't imagine will look all that great and will be a really big piece considering how much they've blacked out.

(Oops, once again I make a post while a mod is posting not to... :oops:

)

Emerje

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849513)
Posted by Overcracker on December 29th, 2016 @ 4:02pm CST

Emerje wrote:
Autobot N wrote:For those buying Ginrai:
PC-16.jpg

How is this even possible? It's not as easy as removing the cab and replacing it with a transforming one, the portion of the trailer that covers the cab would also have to be removed or somehow covered up which I don't think will look as clean as the silhouette looks.

Emerje

Actually it is.

As with Magnus and TR PMOP the cab is a separate piece, simply held in place by a single screw under the trailer. There's nothing attaching it to the trailer above it, and the transformation sequence means removing it leaves a big hole in the robot mode chest to be filled by the new Cab, which likely will be able to be removed, and folded up into a cube much like the original PMOP did.

Remove the Cab, place the new transforming one in its place and you are done. No pieces left to meddle with or cover up.

The problem is they blacked out a large portion of the part that covers the cab

What large portion? The chest piece only covers the sides of the cab. Everything in the middle of the chest is part of the cab.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849515)
Posted by Overcracker on December 29th, 2016 @ 4:08pm CST

Double post...

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849548)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 29th, 2016 @ 5:51pm CST

Takara flipped on SW and Broadcast's feet. Blaster should have had the black and SW the silver.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849550)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on December 29th, 2016 @ 5:54pm CST

fenrir72 wrote:Takara flipped on SW and Broadcast's feet. Blaster should have had the black and SW the silver.

Blame the mold layout and the Titan Master, plus TakaraTomy's desire for a blue Twincast.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849553)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 29th, 2016 @ 6:11pm CST

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Takara flipped on SW and Broadcast's feet. Blaster should have had the black and SW the silver.

Blame the mold layout and the Titan Master, plus TakaraTomy's desire for a blue Twincast.

I'm talking about the transtector's feet.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849565)
Posted by steals_your_goats on December 29th, 2016 @ 7:32pm CST

Brainstorm, Soundwave, and Ginrai should be here in a few days. I can't wait to finish my original headmaster lineup. Anyone else find it a bit odd that Takara has been a little quiet on reveals? Like, there's only 3 figures that have been shown that haven't been released yet and there's no word on Takara doing versions of anything from Titans return wave 3.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849571)
Posted by fenrir72 on December 29th, 2016 @ 8:16pm CST

steals_your_goats wrote:Brainstorm, Soundwave, and Ginrai should be here in a few days. I can't wait to finish my original headmaster lineup. Anyone else find it a bit odd that Takara has been a little quiet on reveals? Like, there's only 3 figures that have been shown that haven't been released yet and there's no word on Takara doing versions of anything from Titans return wave 3.

Well, not just Legends but Takara has their 2017 release sched filled up until July 2017. Maybe on February we'll here about the next half of 2017 for their plans.

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849574)
Posted by steals_your_goats on December 29th, 2016 @ 8:24pm CST

fenrir72 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:Brainstorm, Soundwave, and Ginrai should be here in a few days. I can't wait to finish my original headmaster lineup. Anyone else find it a bit odd that Takara has been a little quiet on reveals? Like, there's only 3 figures that have been shown that haven't been released yet and there's no word on Takara doing versions of anything from Titans return wave 3.

Well, not just Legends but Takara has their 2017 release sched filled up until July 2017. Maybe on February we'll here about the next half of 2017 for their plans.

I wouldn't call 3 figures "filled up". Masterpieces haven't affected legends releases in the past why would this year be any different?

Re: Comparison Image of Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG36 Soundwave (1849594)
Posted by Emerje on December 30th, 2016 @ 12:56am CST

Overcracker wrote:Actually it is.

Actually it isn't, but I'm continuing the conversation over here

steals_your_goats wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
steals_your_goats wrote:Brainstorm, Soundwave, and Ginrai should be here in a few days. I can't wait to finish my original headmaster lineup. Anyone else find it a bit odd that Takara has been a little quiet on reveals? Like, there's only 3 figures that have been shown that haven't been released yet and there's no word on Takara doing versions of anything from Titans return wave 3.

Well, not just Legends but Takara has their 2017 release sched filled up until July 2017. Maybe on February we'll here about the next half of 2017 for their plans.

I wouldn't call 3 figures "filled up". Masterpieces haven't affected legends releases in the past why would this year be any different?

January:
Unite Warriors Megatronia
LG40 Astrotrain

February:
LG41 Leo Prime
MP-34 Cheetor
MP-35 Grapple
MB-01 Optimus Prime
MB-02 Bumblebee
MB-03 Megatron
MB-04 Shockwave
MB-05 Ironhide
MB-06 Ratchet
MB-07 Soundwave
MB-08 Starscream

March:
MB-09 Dino Ride Grimlock & Optimus Prime
MB-10 Dino Ride Strafe & Bumblebee
MB-11 Movie 10th Anniversary Optimus Prime
Unite Warriors Baldigus

April:
MP-36 Megatron

May:
MP-11ND Dirge
LG42 Godbomber
MP-37 Artfire
Magna Convoy

Am I forgetting anything? A little more than 3 LGs and some MPs right? They really do have their schedule full. They haven't even announced any Adventure figures for next year. The sparse number of Legends figures (only 3 in five months) is pretty light.

Emerje

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