First Look At Upcoming Netflix Deluxe Cheetor and Ironhide Redecos

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Considering the Siege voyager was shelf warming, and then so did the 35th anniversary one, is this really a good strategy?

He wasn't shelf warming everywhere which is probably why Hasbro doesn't mind him going back to retail again. Siege Megatron never stayed in stock more than a month around me (at Walmart or Target), even the second and third restock they would eventually sell out. The Walmarts around me never got the 35th line so no shelf warming there. Earthrise Megatron never showed up here either so that was never an issue. Netflix Megatron was restocked at least three times, the most recent being a few weeks before wave 2 came out, and both my local Walmarts are completely sold out of Netflix figures of all sizes and waves. The demand is definitely not past the saturation point everywhere for Megatron.

Emerje

You know that mindset people have about repaints forcing you to buy the second release because it'd be better? It rings true wuth Cheetor because that's what the figure shouldh've looked like.

Emerje wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Considering the Siege voyager was shelf warming, and then so did the 35th anniversary one, is this really a good strategy?

He wasn't shelf warming everywhere which is probably why Hasbro doesn't mind him going back to retail again. Siege Megatron never stayed in stock more than a month around me (at Walmart or Target), even the second and third restock they would eventually sell out. The Walmarts around me never got the 35th line so no shelf warming there. Earthrise Megatron never showed up here either so that was never an issue. Netflix Megatron was restocked at least three times, the most recent being a few weeks before wave 2 came out, and both my local Walmarts are completely sold out of Netflix figures of all sizes and waves. The demand is definitely not past the saturation point everywhere for Megatron.

Emerje

Plus that Megatron have one hell of a SEXY paint job.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Plus that Megatron have one hell of a SEXY paint job.

If the all but confirmed spoiler box megatron is just the earthrise version of the mold, but with the netflix deco scheme, I would be incredibly happy, because both of those versions fall just short of being different enough from siege mainline to be worth the price of double dipping, but I know I'm getting box 3 for the paleotrex alone anyways.

Darn, I was hoping the Ironhide Quint would be the all white version. Maybe later.

Emerje

Really wish that Paleotrex was sold separately. I'd rather not get another Megatron.

It may be because the picture is small but I don't see any difference between this Cheetor and the standard one.

o.supreme wrote:It may be because the picture is small but I don't see any difference between this Cheetor and the standard one.

Looks like a darker blue (more accurate) for the plastic on the shoulders and matching darker paint on the face and legs, but fewer paint apps overall.

I like the darker blue better than the lighter blue, but the more paint apps overall more than I like the better blue, so I'm probably sticking with the regular release.

Ironhide no!

Pretty sure the sparkless are different to Quint troops but hey.

Ironhide quint just looks bad, doesnt help that the alt is pretty bad but now the robot mode looks dull in the way it is painted.

Cheetor, making the blue better still can't improve the figures flaws for me and it looks like the blue crotch desnt match the plastic but this may not be final production figure. Hope it looks a bit better for those that are after him and that the deco doesnt frustrate those that have already picked up Kingdoms.

No doubt this line will have one figure I want but the chances are getting slimmer

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:It may be because the picture is small but I don't see any difference between this Cheetor and the standard one.

Looks like a darker blue (more accurate) for the plastic on the shoulders and matching darker paint on the face and legs, but fewer paint apps overall.

I like the darker blue better than the lighter blue, but the more paint apps overall more than I like the better blue, so I'm probably sticking with the regular release.

I might be in the same boat as you, im still on the fence
The regular release has the blue on the shins and this one doesn't, and I prefer the red cheetah eyes over the green ones even if green is more accurate

THAT is the Quintesson troop builder? Not the Alicon!?

Well. That's one Quintesson figure I don't need.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:THAT is the Quintesson troop builder? Not the Alicon!?

Well I mean, the Alicons weren't even IN the show, so..yeah, not in the show-based repaint line.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:It may be because the picture is small but I don't see any difference between this Cheetor and the standard one.

Looks like a darker blue (more accurate) for the plastic on the shoulders and matching darker paint on the face and legs, but fewer paint apps overall.

I like the darker blue better than the lighter blue, but the more paint apps overall more than I like the better blue, so I'm probably sticking with the regular release.

It also has a more realistic coat color for the cheetah, with tan plastic instead of yellow, and more pronounced cream underbelly paint apps, instead of retail's lighter shade of yellow. It also omits the blue on the shins so that the cheetah legs have realistic coloration instead of the prominent blue heels. Looks like a different spot pattern too, with smaller and more details. Seems like the philosophy was using the netflix line's slightly increased paint budget to get a more realistic cheetah first, then more accurate robot colors where it wouldn't contradict the cheetah accuracy, with a small backstep in realism to give the cheeta green eyes in a nod to the show.

I am dissapointed. I have been wanting an excuse for a black Ironhide as Diaclone and thry came thiiis close but the grey shins and forearms (accurate to the show but not what I want) just miss the bar. Do I care enough to paint them?

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:THAT is the Quintesson troop builder? Not the Alicon!?

Well I mean, the Alicons weren't even IN the show, so..yeah, not in the show-based repaint line.

Never watched the show, but the toys had to have come first here, right?

I mean, why would they have Ironhide drones instead of Alicons when they knew Alicons were available? Weird!

Seems Netflix Cheetor is prioritizing Cheetah mode over robot mode when it comes to the legs and whip

Gauntlet101010 wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Gauntlet101010 wrote:THAT is the Quintesson troop builder? Not the Alicon!?

Well I mean, the Alicons weren't even IN the show, so..yeah, not in the show-based repaint line.

Never watched the show, but the toys had to have come first here, right?

I mean, why would they have Ironhide drones instead of Alicons when they knew Alicons were available? Weird!

To save money on CGI models. They already had one for Ironhide, so they recolored it.

The Netflix line was likely a last minute thing conceived after Hasbro realized that the cartoon's first season wouldn't be coming out until after the Siege toyline would be done and succeeded by Earthrise. Recall how the Prime Wars Trilogy cartoon began when the Combiners Wars toyline was already on its way out to be succeeded by the Titans Return toyline. Evidently, Hasbro did not want a repeat of that and just put out a line of quick and dirty redecos to have something on the shelves to tie in with the show upon its release.

Of the first wave Netflix toys, Decepticon Mirage and Hotlink were the only one whose specific decos actually showed up in the cartoon's first season. But, Mirage felt like an afterthought thrown into the show rather than something planned to really advertise the toy, while Hotlink was just one of many background generic Seekers instead of something truly meant to sell a toy, as though Hasbro looked at the Seekers and just picked one to base the toy's deco on and named it "Hotlink" because the onscreen generic's deco was "close enough". And while Scrapface did appear in the show, it wasn't until the second season, by which point the writers would have had more time to put him into the show.

Of the Wave 2 Netflix toys, Elita-1, Bumblebee, and Nemesis Prime all showed up in the show, but the first two were actually meant to be normal Earthrise toys instead of Netflix toys, but got shifted around thanks to COVID-19 messing up Earthrise's distribution. Nemesis, on the other hand, only got a blink-and-you'll-miss-him cameo appearance inside Optimus Prime's imagination for only a split second, and so was hardly anything of actual import.

Any other characters who appeared in the show that also had Netflix toys bore a greater resemblance to their regular Siege and Earthrise toys, lacking the specific degree of battle damage that their Netflix toy decos had. In Ultra Magnus's case, he resembled his Siege toy when he was alive, while his Netflix toy was colored with the intent of resembling his dead body from the show. However, said corpse had to have originated from the show itself rather than the show taking inspiration from his toy since, despite the intention, the toy's deco does not match the onscreen appearance of his corpse in the same way that his living self matches the look of his retail toy, or in the same way that everyone else in the show resembles their normal toys.

I was hoping for more gold paint, but at least this Cheetor has the darker metallic blue, which is all I really wanted anyway. Plus, the cheetah head paint is so much better than the standard release. I didn't notice it at first, but now I can't unsee it. It also looks like some of his parts (biceps, hands, paws, abs, etc.) are molded in a tanish/goldish color. I like it, especially if it's more on the gold side, it helps cover for the lack of gold paint. This Cheetor looks 10× better than the retail one, even without the leg paint.

That Ironhide is basically a fusion of G1 and bayverse, and it's incredible.

I might actually cancel my Cheetor preorder to wait for this one.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I am still very skeptical. It just seems so odd that SG Jetfire, who was a very minor SG character, would get that repaint. That seems like a lot to ask for for $80

Fair enough, it did seem like a weird choice when I first read it too, I would have expected Sir Soundwave, Wheeljack, or Rodimus before we saw an SG Jetfire.

I would expect a lot before a SG Jetfire, but maybe they're banking on a black jet Commander class figure.

Soundwave is the SG bot I would love to see actually happen. I count Rodimus Unicronus as SG Rodimus, and I don't think a toy could properly beat him anyway

I would totally be in for a black Jetfire in SG colors. Just a fan of the black and purple color scheme. Hope they don’t up the price for it.

I'm kinda interested in the Ironhide-based drone.

The paint on this Cheetor is MUCH better than the Kingdom figure I have, but I’m not really sweating it. If I manage to see this one in store eventually, I’ll pick it up and probably sell my regular Kingdom Cheetor on eBay or something. But if not, oh wells!

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I mean, why would they have Ironhide drones instead of Alicons when they knew Alicons were available? Weird!

It is likely something as simple as they already had a CGI model for Ironhide that they could use versus having to create a new one for the Allicon.

Edit: or what Saber explained much better a few posts above.

I'd take that Ironhide redeco as a SG Ironhide.

Rusty Barricade also is nice, I might get him just for the rust

I also like the purple Paleotrex, but do not want another Megatron.

And no way I am glad target did NOT have cheetor the other day ! The netflix deco decently has a more classic metallic blue and the cheeta parts have a more subtle, less YELLOW! look. Definetly a purchase if and when he shows up on shelves

Quick comparison between the Kingdom and Netflix Cheetors:




Darker blue
Green cheetah eyes
Improved cheetah head deco
Blue paint on legs is gone

Rodimus Prime wrote:I might actually cancel my Cheetor preorder to wait for this one.

Ditto, this Netflix version looks so much nicer. I'm just praying it won't be as hard to get as Bumblebee and Soundwave were.
The Quintesson Trooper looks decent as well, but I don't have any other Quintessons in my collection, and I'm guessing like the Allicon it'll be in high demand because of the army-building potential, so I'll pass.

Bonus points to Hasbro if the Quint Ironhide redeco is named "Terrorbot".

Hey everyone, sorry to barge into this thread but I just started collecting and really like this Netflix line. There have been none in stock at any of the Walmart’s near me for a while, nor online. Are you guys expecting more to be released or are they pretty much done? I only have the Netflix Optimus, Megatron & Elita-1, but I’d love to get Soundwave, Bumblebee and a number of others. Just wondering if I should try and find reasonably priced ones on eBay or wait for Wally World to restock.

Thanks!

Pedro Prime wrote:Hey everyone, sorry to barge into this thread but I just started collecting and really like this Netflix line. There have been none in stock at any of the Walmart’s near me for a while, nor online. Are you guys expecting more to be released or are they pretty much done? I only have the Netflix Optimus, Megatron & Elita-1, but I’d love to get Soundwave, Bumblebee and a number of others. Just wondering if I should try and find reasonably priced ones on eBay or wait for Wally World to restock.

Thanks!

The Netflix line is set to continue to accompany the release of the third chapter in the Netflix series hope you get the ones you're still looking for!

Pedro Prime wrote:Hey everyone, sorry to barge into this thread but I just started collecting and really like this Netflix line. There have been none in stock at any of the Walmart’s near me for a while, nor online. Are you guys expecting more to be released or are they pretty much done? I only have the Netflix Optimus, Megatron & Elita-1, but I’d love to get Soundwave, Bumblebee and a number of others. Just wondering if I should try and find reasonably priced ones on eBay or wait for Wally World to restock.

Thanks!

You might be able to find some first series stragglers (the ones that aren't repainted all too differently from the wfc versions - hound, chromia, redalert) around. Series 2 is current so walmart will probably get some more in (or just try various walmart if possible) with Bee being the one that scalper have jumped on.

Good news is that Takara is also offering them and you might be able to find characters that may have disapeered off shelves at online stores (examples over here in UK is we some places ordered in hotlink for £3 more than retail) so bee or others might end up being a bit easier to get in the long run. Only difference if the figures so far is spoiler ultra magnus is in an open window box so the buyer knows what they are getting.

blackeyedprime wrote:You might be able to find some first series stragglers (the ones that aren't repainted all too differently from the wfc versions - hound, chromia, redalert) around. Series 2 is current so walmart will probably get some more in (or just try various walmart if possible) with Bee being the one that scalper have jumped on.

Good news is that Takara is also offering them and you might be able to find characters that may have disapeered off shelves at online stores (examples over here in UK is we some places ordered in hotlink for £3 more than retail) so bee or others might end up being a bit easier to get in the long run. Only difference if the figures so far is spoiler ultra magnus is in an open window box so the buyer knows what they are getting.

Awesome, that’s great news! Is there a list somewhere of the characters that have been released in each wave? I’ve been compiling my own list just by reading through the forum, but haven’t been able to determine which were in series 1 vs series 2.

Also just out of curiosity, are most of you all opening boxes and displaying characters unboxed, or keeping them boxed? I generally try to keep my collectibles unopened in their original boxes; but these are just too fun to keep in the box. I’ve been buying two of each so far just so I can have one opened, but my wallet (and wife) probably won’t be compatible with that for too long at my current rate of purchasing!

Wave 1 had a few restocks after the initial release, so I would expect wave 2 to have at least 1 restock between now and whenever wave 3 will be due.

Pedro Prime wrote:but haven’t been able to determine which were in series 1 vs series 2.

Also just out of curiosity, are most of you all opening boxes and displaying characters unboxed, or keeping them boxed?

Unboxed or boxed the quintessons (and partners) are going to have the same judgemment either way
For me, I have no space for boxes and the scene from Toy Story of 'you are a childs plaything' is my aproach to opening them.


Wave 1 deluxes
hound
chromia
Sideswipe
Scrapface
Mirage Decepticon disguise

wave 1 voyagers with battlemasters
Megatron
hotlink

wave 1 spoiler leader pack
Ultra Magnus

wave 2 deluxes
wheeljack
bumblebee
elita 1
impactor
red alert

wave 2 voyager
Soundwave
Optimus Prime

wave 2 spoiler leader
Nemesis Prime kind of

wave 3 deluxes
Quintesson Soldier black iron hide
Sparkless Rusty Barricade
Cheetor BW show colors
unknown
unknown

wave 3 voyagers
seeker sparkless or quint, no pics as yet
unknown

wave 3 spoiler -supposedly not a leader
purple paleotrix fosiliser with Voyager Megatron (no pics of Megatron as yet)

I'd say that the exclusive alternate universe dead/grey Optimus Prime is pretty much Netflix as it doesnt have transformers the movie chest damage.

blackeyedprime wrote:wave 3 deluxes
Quintesson Soldier black iron hide
Sparkless Rusty Barricade
Cheetor BW show colors
unknown
unknown

wave 3 voyagers
seeker sparkless or quint, no pics as yet
unknown

wave 3 spoiler -supposedly not a leader
purple paleotrix fosiliser with Voyager Megatron (no pics of Megatron as yet)

The other deluxe is Sparkless Rusty Deep Cover (only 4 this time) and the Voyager is Optimus Primal, as evidenced from leaked listings a while back.

Thanks, I'd forgotten about Primal and didn't know it was only four deluxes in wave 3.

It just occurred to me that the Sparkless could make decent Junkion fodder. Wasn't there rumor of a new Wreckgar coming in Studio Series?

Emerje

blackeyedprime wrote:Unboxed or boxed the quintessons (and partners) are going to have the same judgemment either way
For me, I have no space for boxes and the scene from Toy Story of 'you are a childs plaything' is my aproach to opening them.


Wave 1 deluxes
hound
chromia
Sideswipe
Scrapface
Mirage Decepticon disguise

wave 1 voyagers with battlemasters
Megatron
hotlink

wave 1 spoiler leader pack
Ultra Magnus

wave 2 deluxes
wheeljack
bumblebee
elita 1
impactor
red alert

wave 2 voyager
Soundwave
Optimus Prime

wave 2 spoiler leader
Nemesis Prime kind of

wave 3 deluxes
Quintesson Soldier black iron hide
Sparkless Rusty Barricade
Cheetor BW show colors
unknown
unknown

wave 3 voyagers
seeker sparkless or quint, no pics as yet
unknown

wave 3 spoiler -supposedly not a leader
purple paleotrix fosiliser with Voyager Megatron (no pics of Megatron as yet)

I'd say that the exclusive alternate universe dead/grey Optimus Prime is pretty much Netflix as it doesnt have transformers the movie chest damage.

Thank you! I had been eyeing some of those wave 2 characters on eBay but will wait and see if they show up at Walmart again.

Emerje wrote:It just occurred to me that the Sparkless could make decent Junkion fodder. Wasn't there rumor of a new Wreckgar coming in Studio Series?

Emerje

Could make for a good aligned-styled Axer (Although as the G1 character if he had the Aligned version's story)

https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Axer_(Prime)

Definitely going to have to snag myself some of those Ironhides.

So, this image is making its way around the Internet.

Apparently, there's gonna be a Lucky Draw contest over in Singapore where the prizes are the Netflix toys of Cheetor, "Crystallux", and "Rusticon", the latter two being the translucent purple redeco of Paleotrex and the rusty Sparkless redeco of Barricade.

The original source of the image is unknown, but has made its way onto Facebook, TFW2005, TFormers, and Autobase Aichi so far.

Sabrblade wrote:So, this image is making its way around the Internet.

Apparently, there's gonna be a Lucky Draw contest over in Singapore where the prizes are the Netflix toys of Cheetor, "Crystallux", and "Rusticon", the latter two being the translucent purple redeco of Paleotrex and the rusty Sparkless redeco of Barricade.

The original source of the image is unknown, but has made its way onto Facebook, TFW2005, TFormers, and Autobase Aichi so far.

From what I'm hearing, this is confirmed fake

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:So, this image is making its way around the Internet.

Apparently, there's gonna be a Lucky Draw contest over in Singapore where the prizes are the Netflix toys of Cheetor, "Crystallux", and "Rusticon", the latter two being the translucent purple redeco of Paleotrex and the rusty Sparkless redeco of Barricade.

The original source of the image is unknown, but has made its way onto Facebook, TFW2005, TFormers, and Autobase Aichi so far.

From what I'm hearing, this is confirmed fake

Yeah, the TFW leaker responsible for the recent infodump said it was a fake.

I'm curious how a leaker would know if a promotion run in Singapore is fake or not. It definitely wouldn't be released that way in North America, but that doesn't mean this is fake by default.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:I'm curious how a leaker would know if a promotion run in Singapore is fake or not. It definitely wouldn't be released that way in North America, but that doesn't mean this is fake by default.

Emerje

Perhaps the leaker knows the real names of the two non-Cheetor figures and so would be able to tell that the promotion is fake by its using fake names for the two.

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:I'm curious how a leaker would know if a promotion run in Singapore is fake or not. It definitely wouldn't be released that way in North America, but that doesn't mean this is fake by default.

Emerje

Perhaps the leaker knows the real names of the two non-Cheetor figures and so would be able to tell that the promotion is fake by its using fake names for the two.

That makes more sense, the leaker should really just tell us what the real names are if they know them, even something close.

Emerje

I believe this is the exact quote:

Leaker wrote:It's fake, meant to be a prank by another leaker/early seller.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure the Sparkless is named as Barricade per the Walmart listings. And the purple Paleotrex is a pack-in with the Spoiler Pack, so it'd be weird for it to also have a single release.

One week later and I was surprised to see 5 of the 7 Netflix Optimus' I saw last week are gone. Absolutely no other TF toys at all besides Cyberverse. Hopefully they are getting ready for a reset. They jus need to clearance that Cyberverse junk out and be done with it, make more room for better product.

o.supreme wrote:One week later and I was surprised to see 5 of the 7 Netflix Optimus' I saw last week are gone. Absolutely no other TF toys at all besides Cyberverse. Hopefully they are getting ready for a reset. They jus need to clearance that Cyberverse junk out and be done with it, make more room for better product.

Stopped into my Walmart this afternoon for a couple items, went through the toys section and almost the same thing here-- one Red Alert and one Wheeljack. Nothing else but Cyberverse.
Next stopped at Target, saw some TF statues that I've attempted to "news", some Kingdom figures, but again nothing from ER but one of the battle masters. Literally 1.
So about 5 minutes ago I decided to go ahead and order Netflix Prime from Walmart.com. Supposed to show up in 3 days.