New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More

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Takara has new images for the upcoming Transformers War for Cybertron Siege voyager Apeface, deluxe Crosshairs and Micromasters combiner Direct Hit and Power Punch. These give us our best look at the finished deco and what that might look like in unfavourable lighting conditions, as you will see. While Apeface's white may look too off white, it might just be that it is pearlescent. We also see what the battle damage will look like on his legs, along with a good look at this jet mode. As with all triple changers, one mode will always get the short straw and as with his G1 toy and any Braodside toy, it is the jet mode. We do get to see exactly what the Titan Master turns into. Crosswise is a redeco of Ironhide with a new head and sports some pretty cool tampographs that give callbacks to the original toy.

These are due out for the 2019 holiday season at all retailers that carry

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Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037584)
Posted by SgtNateV on September 9th, 2019 @ 8:53pm CDT

*Crosshairs

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037585)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on September 9th, 2019 @ 8:56pm CDT

Crosswise? :???:

I think Apeface continues to look good, save for the white looking weird in that lighting and his ape neck being mistransformed by the looks of it. I'm still a bit hesitant to use Takara's stock photos as proof of final color schemes though, after the unpainted guns they showed with Magnus and Brunt.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037586)
Posted by Quantum Surge on September 9th, 2019 @ 9:00pm CDT

Only want Apeface.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037587)
Posted by Microbot on September 9th, 2019 @ 9:13pm CDT

Apeface and Crosshairs look great! Want! the duo minicon...no thanks....look ugly...the weapon mode is just put them on a shoulder in car-mode...no, thanks! Harbro can make it better IMO

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037588)
Posted by DeathReviews on September 9th, 2019 @ 9:40pm CDT

Sigh... I wanted to like Apeface. I had the G1 version back in the day. But after 30 years, this was seriously the best they could do? Lawful heart, that off-white plastic looks like badly melted cheese.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037591)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 9th, 2019 @ 9:52pm CDT

DeathReviews wrote:Sigh... I wanted to like Apeface. I had the G1 version back in the day. But after 30 years, this was seriously the best they could do? Lawful heart, that off-white plastic looks like badly melted cheese.

We will have to wait for the in-hand pictures to she his real colors. Maybe that candle-wax white will not be so bad.

Also, after playing around with Siege Ratchet, I really want Crosswise and Ironhide. That mold is awesome in it's simplicity.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037601)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on September 9th, 2019 @ 11:26pm CDT

Will, you accidentally called Crosshairs "Crosswise" at one point. I'm pretty sure he is not a monster-hunting Bugatti Veyron

That is DEFINITELY a pearlescent white on Apeface. Only pearlescent plastic has that sheen. It should look just fine in person. I mean, it looks great on this guy:

As for the chunky jet mode... Since they were going for resemblance to the G1 design, there was no helping it on account of the twonk who designed the original giving him oblong beast limbs. A larger wingspan would probably help the looks, but price point strictures are a thing.,, All the same, Apeface is still a "Shut up and take my money" toy for me.

Speaking of "Shut up and take my money"...

Recently acquired Springer, and I find him a joy to look at and play with.

As far as I'm concerned regarding Springer: SIEGE Rules, Thrilling 30 drools!

Well, okay, the transforming rotor sword is nice. But occasionally lending that to SIEGE Springer is the ONLY thing keeping me from putting the T30 version (which I only bought as filler) up for trade.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037607)
Posted by Stargrave on September 9th, 2019 @ 11:55pm CDT

Powertrain, Highjump, and Red Heat are lacking Autobrands. What the hell time to commit or get off the cyberpotty now come on troops.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037608)
Posted by Stargrave on September 9th, 2019 @ 11:57pm CDT

Shockwave stands in solidarity as the only Siege figure to not have red on him. I’m telling you Siege is like 70% red.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037611)
Posted by Stormshot_Prime on September 10th, 2019 @ 12:04am CDT

Anyone else notice that bizarre double sided Headmaster? Or am I just seeing things?

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037612)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on September 10th, 2019 @ 12:07am CDT

Stargrave wrote:Shockwave stands in solidarity as the only Siege figure to not have red on him. I’m telling you Siege is like 70% red.

What about Holo Mirage?

Stormshot_Prime wrote:Anyone else notice that bizarre double sided Headmaster? Or am I just seeing things?

You're not. But it's actually to be expected with Spasma!

Part of the Horrorcons' design schtick was that their Headmaster partners formed both the robot head and the beast head. However, the need to be interchangeable with other Titan Masters means that SIEGE Spasma can't fit the full gorilla muzzle on his back, so he only has the optic band and plugs in to complete the gorilla head (much like Revolver does for TR Six Shot's wolf head, only even more important). This also keeps the gorilla head from being undersized.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037617)
Posted by Stargrave on September 10th, 2019 @ 12:56am CDT

Dude good call! I don’t have holo Mirage yet.

He’s the only redless force that can withstand Shockwave’s redless onslaught.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037627)
Posted by emlit on September 10th, 2019 @ 6:16am CDT

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:As for the chunky jet mode... Since they were going for resemblance to the G1 design, there was no helping it on account of the twonk who designed the original giving him oblong beast limbs. A larger wingspan would probably help the looks, but price point strictures are a thing.,,

As far as I'm concerned regarding Springer: SIEGE Rules, Thrilling 30 drools!

IDK, those alt modes for Thrilling 30 Springer are really great. And I even have a G1 Springer, so Siege gets nostalgia points.

My take on Apeface is why those blocky shoulders? All it needed was some angled intakes like the original. It’s sad for me, too, as Apeface’s spaceship design was one of my G1 favorites.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037628)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on September 10th, 2019 @ 6:30am CDT

I think T30 Springer's helicopter mode is a mess, and my copy is rather uncooperative when it comes to things lining up right in altmode.

Why those blocky gorilla shoulders on Apeface? To make room for the joints. And honestly, given where the original's intakes were and the way SIEGE Apeface's gorilla arms transform, your question should be "Why those blocky gorilla forearms?"

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037630)
Posted by frogbat on September 10th, 2019 @ 6:37am CDT

still to receive my springer. Looking forward to him cos I definitely prefer the g1 sequel look over the thrilling 30s (I appreciate sandstorm more). Of this next batch, think I've ordered the lot except for the Micromaster which wasn't available but am looking forward to getting him too.

Apeface looks ok - not exceptional, but a good attempt. the plastic will probably look better in hand.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037633)
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 10th, 2019 @ 7:09am CDT

I much prefer the G1 reimagined look of T30 Springer, far more dynamic and fits the original theme of classics but of course different design teams have different visions and at least people have official options depending on their own tastes.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037635)
Posted by Emerje on September 10th, 2019 @ 7:33am CDT

Siege Springer is a much more complex figure than he looks in photos. The conversion from car to helicopter isn't nearly as straightforward as it appears.

Emerje

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037637)
Posted by emlit on September 10th, 2019 @ 7:48am CDT

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Why those blocky gorilla shoulders on Apeface? To make room for the joints. And honestly, given where the original's intakes were and the way SIEGE Apeface's gorilla arms transform, your question should be "Why those blocky gorilla forearms?"

No, my question is still “Why those blocky shoulders?” The joints could still be easily accommodated after adding a slope reminiscent of the G1 model. That would help the winged toaster aesthetic immensely, IMO.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037644)
Posted by blackeyedprime on September 10th, 2019 @ 8:38am CDT

Think I prefer the thrilling 30 Springer, Sieges copters a bit off and not sure about car mode. Robot mode, legs could have done with being longer so it looks less clunky. Yet to pick one up so I'll see if I still feel the same when I have him.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037649)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on September 10th, 2019 @ 8:55am CDT

emlit wrote:
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Why those blocky gorilla shoulders on Apeface? To make room for the joints. And honestly, given where the original's intakes were and the way SIEGE Apeface's gorilla arms transform, your question should be "Why those blocky gorilla forearms?"

No, my question is still “Why those blocky shoulders?” The joints could still be easily accommodated after adding a slope reminiscent of the G1 model. That would help the winged toaster aesthetic immensely, IMO.

Take a proper look at SIEGE Apeface:

And now look at the original:

Notice the color difference of that spot? On SIEGE Apeface, that spot is made from the gorilla forearms, not the back of the upper arms. So it's the gorilla forearms that would need the slope.
Adding a slope onto the shoulder itself that projects past that point wouldn't work, because it would block the arm's outward movement.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037650)
Posted by Stargrave on September 10th, 2019 @ 8:58am CDT

I love the smell of a Springer comparison in the morning...

I love living in a world where we have Springers to compare. :lol:

Honestly I feel like they both are so strong that it’s comparing apples to apples. That’s a super tough call for me. Like with the new Impactors- honestly if I could afford it I would get both because I like the different head designs. You know what I mean? 30 Springer is totally IDW to me whereas Siege is like old school movie Springer.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037652)
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on September 10th, 2019 @ 9:03am CDT

T30 Springer's multipart windshield can go to hell.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037656)
Posted by joevill on September 10th, 2019 @ 9:23am CDT

These both look pretty badass!

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037657)
Posted by CircuitBreaker on September 10th, 2019 @ 10:03am CDT

Oh my god I finally understand Apeface's headmaster now. Using the back of the legs for the robot face is genius, I thought it was a panel hidden somewhere! :HEADHURTS:

I might buy him just for the ingenuity of that alone.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037658)
Posted by Stargrave on September 10th, 2019 @ 10:18am CDT

Apeface’s rifle looks sooo rad.

I’m getting a 30 Blitzwing shoulder vibe from that ape mode shoulder arrangement but there’s always compromises with triple changers.

Overall, mmf, can not wait for this next wave.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037659)
Posted by gothsaurus on September 10th, 2019 @ 10:20am CDT

I always put the rifle in the fist in jet mode to cover up the hand. I'll definitely try that on the new one.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037660)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 10th, 2019 @ 10:36am CDT

gothsaurus wrote:I always put the rifle in the fist in jet mode to cover up the hand. I'll definitely try that on the new one.

Me too. Did that since I was a child with my original.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037661)
Posted by gothsaurus on September 10th, 2019 @ 10:49am CDT

I've always meant to get a second gun to put in the other fist, but sheesh. They're $50 on ebay. >:oP

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037667)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on September 10th, 2019 @ 11:07am CDT

On the subject of Springer, if I manage to find another one in store, I'll probably pick him up. I like the bot mode and car mode, but the copter mode is way too blocky. I know that it's G1 accurate, but if we're honest that's not always a compliment. T30 Springer is still my personal favorite design

On the subject of Apeface, I'm looking forward to giving him the TR weapon drone thing and turning him into a Targetmaster and Headmaster :lol:

May even give him the Apeface Titanmaster just for a different look sometimes. Can't wait to see what Hasbro manages to give us for Snapdragon :-D

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037670)
Posted by blackeyedprime on September 10th, 2019 @ 11:52am CDT

Doesnt look to be anything that pops up to make apefaces robot head look bigger like on the TR figures, not that its needed, but hoping figure size remains comparable.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037690)
Posted by Skritz on September 10th, 2019 @ 2:19pm CDT

Man, I don't know what exactly changed but these renders made Apeface look way better...

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037692)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on September 10th, 2019 @ 2:36pm CDT

Skritz wrote:Man, I don't know what exactly changed but these renders made Apeface look way better...

I'd assume it's just lighting and such here. Unless you're referring to all the images of Apeface from conventions and such, then I have no clue

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037693)
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on September 10th, 2019 @ 2:44pm CDT

Stargrave wrote:Shockwave stands in solidarity as the only Siege figure to not have red on him. I’m telling you Siege is like 70% red.

What about the Rainmakers?

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037695)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on September 10th, 2019 @ 2:49pm CDT

Skritz wrote:Man, I don't know what exactly changed but these renders made Apeface look way better...

That's cuz these aren't renders, they're production run figures being photographed

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037700)
Posted by Stargrave on September 10th, 2019 @ 3:34pm CDT

Decepticon Stryker wrote:
Stargrave wrote:Shockwave stands in solidarity as the only Siege figure to not have red on him. I’m telling you Siege is like 70% red.

What about the Rainmakers?

With red eyes...like the devil’s eyes...
But really it’s kind of more orangey than red. Hmm. Ok well wave 1 Siege then :lol:

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037702)
Posted by Wireless_Phantom on September 10th, 2019 @ 4:10pm CDT

Can't wait for Apeface!

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037703)
Posted by no-one on September 10th, 2019 @ 4:24pm CDT

Apeface isn't wasn't on my radar, but damn it looks like a fun toy. And I love the brilliant double faced headmaster action, pretty clever.

For me Siege Springer blew T30 out of the water. I always found T30 fiddly (in all modes) and feel that Sandstorm wears the mold better with much tighter tolerances leading to both alt-modes pegging in nice and tight. Also just I love Sandstorm's VTOL backpack so much

T30 Springer lent his sword to Seige and slipped quietly into storage.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037711)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on September 10th, 2019 @ 5:33pm CDT

blackeyedprime wrote:Doesnt look to be anything that pops up to make apefaces robot head look bigger like on the TR figures, not that its needed, but hoping figure size remains comparable.

Take another look. The whole beast mode "muzzle" is a separate piece that covers up the lower half of the "beast" side face of the Titan Master. With just the Titan Master, you only get the red visor of the gorilla face. The mouth and "nose" are attached to the main robot body and sit right in front of the Titan Master when in beast mode.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037713)
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on September 10th, 2019 @ 5:38pm CDT

Wolfman Jake wrote:Take another look. The whole beast mode "muzzle" is a separate piece that covers up the lower half of the "beast" side face of the Titan Master. With just the Titan Master, you only get the red visor of the gorilla face. The mouth and "nose" are attached to the main robot body and sit right in front of the Titan Master when in beast mode.

blackeyedprime wrote:Doesnt look to be anything that pops up to make apefaces robot head look bigger like on the TR figures, not that its needed, but hoping figure size remains comparable.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037715)
Posted by DMSL on September 10th, 2019 @ 5:55pm CDT

These figures are awesome, but the battle damage paint...awful.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037716)
Posted by transformers_va on September 10th, 2019 @ 5:56pm CDT

Got my Omega Supreme today... damn the joints are tight!! I was worried that they were going to break during the transformation

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037740)
Posted by Stargrave on September 10th, 2019 @ 8:31pm CDT

transformers_va wrote:Got my Omega Supreme today... damn the joints are tight!! I was worried that they were going to break during the transformation

Aye those be the ratchets of a Titan! :lol:

can’t wait to get Omega I can hear that crisp ‘chk!’ sound now...

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037742)
Posted by Sabrblade on September 10th, 2019 @ 8:39pm CDT

Stargrave wrote:
transformers_va wrote:Got my Omega Supreme today... damn the joints are tight!! I was worried that they were going to break during the transformation

Aye those be the ratchets of a Titan! can’t wait to get Omega I can hear that crisp ‘chk!’ sound now...

So long as that crisp 'chk!' never becomes a crisp 'ccrak!' sound. :oops:

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037747)
Posted by transformers_va on September 10th, 2019 @ 9:01pm CDT

Stargrave wrote:
transformers_va wrote:Got my Omega Supreme today... damn the joints are tight!! I was worried that they were going to break during the transformation

Aye those be the ratchets of a Titan! can’t wait to get Omega I can hear that crisp ‘chk!’ sound now...

Thankfully the knees have a loosened up a bit, and seem a little better after a few transformations, but the hip ratchets still worry me.. definitely being very careful with them

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037749)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 10th, 2019 @ 9:13pm CDT

This Québécois got the forbidden fruit!
At first, I found that 100$CAN plus taxes set pricey, but it's just 10$ more expensive than 3 full priced figures for all the extra stuff.

Seriously, the box alone is shiny all over. Even inside! Plus, a full color instruction manual with extra tidbits of lore. Not only it have 4 extra camera parts, but there's also a :KREMZEEK:

because why not?

The spaceships are simple, but does the job. For a "bonus" mode, it's not too bad. It's unfortunate that the extra camera parts cannot be used at all in this mode.

The bots are absolutely fantastic and the extra parts are well used. Only the heads that have not be remolded keep the set from ultimate perfection.

I really don't regret paying extra to get the special set. Next to my G1 original, this set is just glorious! Beside, Maketoys Visualizer had already filled the "cartoon accurate" spot. The Siege Refraktor 3 pack is very worth getting.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037760)
Posted by Stargrave on September 10th, 2019 @ 11:50pm CDT

I don't think I saw this elsewhere here and it's not so substantial to news really but if anyone was like 'if only Ultra Magnus was like five bucks off I totally would get him...' well right now at Amazon he's 11% off which is a hair over five bucks.

Here's the link if anyone's interested.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037761)
Posted by Stargrave on September 10th, 2019 @ 11:52pm CDT

Just about the same deal for Galaxy Prime on Amazon too, just like five bucks off if anyone's game.

Here's the link for Galaxy Prime.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037763)
Posted by Stargrave on September 11th, 2019 @ 12:01am CDT

Leader Class Shockwave just $38.55 dang that's a steal. Deal breaker for anyone who said he wasn't worth the $50 pricetag for sure.

Here's the link at Amazon if anyone's interested.

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037764)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on September 11th, 2019 @ 1:14am CDT

So, I just had a thought: What's Apeface's little symbol going to be? Is it going to be proudly similar to Starscream's, or will it be a new one that he'd share with Snapdragon if/when they release him?

Re: New Stock Images Showing Final Deco for Siege Apeface, Crosshairs and More (2037765)
Posted by Stargrave on September 11th, 2019 @ 1:33am CDT

G1 Apeface and Snapdragon are similar but very different in how they transform.

I was just looking at the new Siege Apeface images and you know, just a bit...that image of him from the back, if you had different arms for that ape, like if they were dino legs, then made the rear ape legs little dino arms...the jet nose would work as a tail...

I hope Snapdragon is a whole new robot for sure but I can actually see how they could retool this version of Apeface into a Snapdragon. Swap in a few new parts maybe a new front end for the jet mode.

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