Transformers Legacy Magmatron found at US Retail + Video Review

Got my legacy Magmatron in the mail last week and it's easily one of my favorite purchases I've made in awhile

Got so giddy and excited opening him up

I never had the original but always thought the character was so damn cool after getting Beast wars: the gathering at a book fair in elementary school

A killer robot that turns into three different dinosaurs at the same time is wicked awesome

Razorbeast88 wrote:Got my legacy Magmatron in the mail last week and it's easily one of my favorite purchases I've made in awhile

Got so giddy and excited opening him up

I never had the original but always thought the character was so damn cool after getting Beast wars: the gathering at a book fair in elementary school

A killer robot that turns into three different dinosaurs at the same time is wicked awesome

It really is an excellent figure.

Pre-orders for the remaining walmart exclusive figures are up:

Thundertron
https://www.walmart.com/ip/TRA-GEN-LEGA?wmlspartner=FYAGeMjDX6c&=&affs=p&wid=5b6b4213e4b0bcb699adeb9f&u1=&oid=223073.10006940&sourceid=37141976172661509211&affillinktype=3&veh=aff ... 5285700006

Road Pig
https://www.walmart.com/ip/TRA-GEN-LEGA?wmlspartner=FYAGeMjDX6c&=&affs=p&wid=5b6b4213e4b0bcb699adeb9f&u1=&oid=223073.10006940&sourceid=37141976172661509211&affillinktype=3&veh=aff ... 5290101947


Thankfully Lockdown was still available, so I just pre-ordered Lockdown and Roadpig together. If anyone plans on getting the leader Thundertron and plans to sell off the Calcitron Armorizor, please PM me.

Ordered both, thanks for the heads up!

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Ordered both, thanks for the heads up!

Emerje

Anytime . Also, wasn't there supposed to be another G2 Stunticon in this sub-line, or was that somewhere else? I cant keep it all together anymore.

o.supreme wrote:

Emerje wrote:Ordered both, thanks for the heads up!

Emerje

Anytime . Also, wasn't there supposed to be another G2 Stunticon in this sub-line, or was that somewhere else? I cant keep it all together anymore.

Not currently. There was speculation based on two blank spaces on the original leak, but one ended up being Cannonball and the other turned out to be just the assortment itself. Only G2 figure we know for next year right now is Grimlock in April in the 13 Primes line following Legacy.

Emerje

I don't know if we knew about this beforehand or not, but I just got an email from Hasbro Pulse that revealed that Legacy Evolution Deluxe class RID15 Strongarm is getting a package refresh in Legacy United.

Emerje wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Emerje wrote:Ordered both, thanks for the heads up!

Emerje

Anytime . Also, wasn't there supposed to be another G2 Stunticon in this sub-line, or was that somewhere else? I cant keep it all together anymore.

Not currently. There was speculation based on two blank spaces on the original leak, but one ended up being Cannonball and the other turned out to be just the assortment itself. Only G2 figure we know for next year right now is Grimlock in April in the 13 Primes line following Legacy.

Emerje

There was an old listing for a "ROBO WLD RDR" that many took to being some kind of redeco of Wildrider, but that never came about, with the running theory being it was replaced by G2 Dead End instead.

Sabrblade wrote:I don't know if we knew about this beforehand or not, but I just got an email from Hasbro Pulse that revealed that Legacy Evolution Deluxe class RID15 Strongarm is getting a package refresh in Legacy United.

Emerje wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Emerje wrote:Ordered both, thanks for the heads up!

Emerje

Anytime . Also, wasn't there supposed to be another G2 Stunticon in this sub-line, or was that somewhere else? I cant keep it all together anymore.

Not currently. There was speculation based on two blank spaces on the original leak, but one ended up being Cannonball and the other turned out to be just the assortment itself. Only G2 figure we know for next year right now is Grimlock in April in the 13 Primes line following Legacy.

Emerje

There was an old listing for a "ROBO WLD RDR" that many took to being some kind of redeco of Wildrider, but that never came about, with the running theory being it was replaced by G2 Dead End instead.

Isn't Strongarm part of the Deluxe wave shipping now with Hot Shot and Nucleous?

Emerje wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Emerje wrote:Ordered both, thanks for the heads up!

Emerje

Anytime . Also, wasn't there supposed to be another G2 Stunticon in this sub-line, or was that somewhere else? I cant keep it all together anymore.

Not currently. There was speculation based on two blank spaces on the original leak, but one ended up being Cannonball and the other turned out to be just the assortment itself. Only G2 figure we know for next year right now is Grimlock in April in the 13 Primes line following Legacy.

Emerje

G2 Breakdown is listed for Legacy Wave 5, which may be what o.supreme is thinking of?

I'm Canadian and got mine in early June.

Sabrblade wrote:There was an old listing for a "ROBO WLD RDR" that many took to being some kind of redeco of Wildrider, but that never came about, with the running theory being it was replaced by G2 Dead End instead.

There was also a lot of speculation on it being X-Brawn using the Japanese name Wild Ride. I know the extra R in the name doesn't really work, but the ROBO doesn't fit G2 either when it could easily just have been a shortened ROBOts in Disguise. But that was supposed to have been in Evolution and never happened so who knows if we'll actually see what it was.

Nemesis Primal wrote:G2 Breakdown is listed for Legacy Wave 5, which may be what o.supreme is thinking of?

I completely forgot about wave 5. That wave is almost entirely repaints and PRs so you can't blame me. Maybe Surshot will be new, but he'll probably be a Beachcomber retool (hopefully not!).

Emerje

Got my Mayhem sets in from Amazon, the bugs are pretty much perfect, but has anyone else received Windsweeper/Breakdown yet? Dunno if I just drew poorly in the QC lottery or if this is more than a one-off, but I feel like this set has the worst QC issues I've personally experienced on a figure since like pre-Siege.
-Windsweeper came with 2 of the double-barreled Targetmaster rather than one double and one single (although I kinda like this, not gonna lie)
-Breakdown's arms weren't fully pushed into place in his shoulders all the way, causing his shoulders to split open (I've managed to get the arms into the proper alignment, but the shoulders are still low-key trying to come apart)
-I swear something is just slightly misaligned enough that one of Breakdown's legs is slightly longer than the other? When I peg them together they aren't completely parallel with each other, and the pegs in his truck bed are visibly not symmetrical
-Both Breakdown and Windsweeper are considerably looser in the majority of their joints compared to Bulkhead and Needlenose
-I can hear a little bit of something rattling around inside Windsweeper's cockpit?

Emerje wrote:I completely forgot about wave 5. That wave is almost entirely repaints and PRs so you can't blame me.

Wouldn't dream of it.

Emerje wrote:Maybe Surshot will be new, but he'll probably be a Beachcomber retool (hopefully not!).

I'm basically expecting Sureshot and Core Dinobot to be new molds, considering they were originally slated for Wave 2 and historically Wave 2 is always either all new molds or all new molds save like 1 figure (which in this Wave 2 was already Chromia). I guess at worst he'd be a Beachcomber retool? But like, it'd have to be Skullgrin-to-Quake level of retool, I think, if for no other reason than we basically know he's getting his Targetmaster based on the other 3 Legacy Targetmaster updates (I guess 4 counting Selects Cyclonus).

Nemesis Primal wrote:-Windsweeper came with 2 of the double-barreled Targetmaster rather than one double and one single (although I kinda like this, not gonna lie)

Oh dear. It seems you aren't the only one this happened to. As I've seen the same thing reported by others on Discord:

Sabrblade wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:-Windsweeper came with 2 of the double-barreled Targetmaster rather than one double and one single (although I kinda like this, not gonna lie)

Oh dear. It seems you aren't the only one this happened to. As I've seen the same thing reported by others on Discord:

Had me open mine in a bit of a panic, but it's the correct partners. Not that it really matters, he wasn't a Targetmaster to begin with. I would have honestly been fine with just normal silver guns.



Emerje

I'm very disappointed by Mayhem Bludgeon. But Ruckus is pretty much what I expected, so I'll be getting him.

Here’s a photo I found of another 2-pk.
I think Rukus looks good, except for the feet. But this is still a pass for me.

Not really interested in Ruckus
But I do like Bludgeons head sculpt, might get this. Where's the sword though

Quite an extensive retool for Ruckus.

Only things left from Beachcomber are his arms, crotch and tires I think.

Also, are those the incorrectly applied G1 waist stickers as arm detailing?
Did Hasbro reference our very own Seibertron gallery for this?



That's hilarious if they did.



As for Bludgeon, not a fan of the powdery green and yellow, but that head, that is a work of art.

I think a darker richer yellow and green would have worked a bit better, but I know that is not accurate to the comic book appearance.

In any case, I may just break down and get this set, since I don't own any of the previous uses of the Tarn mold.

Whoa! I was not at all expecting them to go all out with making Bludgeon into the IDW1 pre-Pretender version from Stormbringer. That looks SICK!!!

We finally have a look at the upcoming Mayhem 2 pack of Bludgeon and Ruckus and it's a doozy. Bludgeonsports a yellow and green deco and has a new headsculpt and chest piece, based on his early IDW form seen in the Storm Bringer comic. So now you can create a before and after of that comic which ends in Bludgeon getting his more typical look. If you are wondering about the headsculpt, he has no lower jaw, so you are seeing the wiring behind his "skull".

Ruckus is rather interesting. While he is a very faithful representation to the G1 toy, using the Beachcomber mold, some of his detailing is precisely based on our very own gallery of him on Seibertron.

You see, the example in our gallery has misplaced stickers. The stickers meant for the hips are placed on his forearms. And it was that picture that was cropped and used by TFwiki for the past 4 years, which is where Hasbro often uses as a source. And now, we have this innacurate sticker placement recreated on the new Ruckus toy. You can see those referential images and gallery below.

TRA GEN MAYHEM VOY BLUDGEON & DLX RUCKUS
Product Number: G0182




Transformers G1 1988 Ruckus Gallery

Overcracker wrote:Quite an extensive retool for Ruckus.

Only things left from Beachcomber are his arms, crotch and tires I think.

Also, are those the incorrectly applied G1 waist stickers as arm detailing?
Did Hasbro reference our very own Seibertron gallery for this?



That's hilarious if they did.



As for Bludgeon, not a fan of the powdery green and yellow, but that head, that is a work of art.

I think a darker richer yellow and green would have worked a bit better, but I know that is not accurate to the comic book appearance.

In any case, I may just break down and get this set, since I don't own any of the previous uses of the Tarn mold.

Yes, they referenced out gallery. But only because that's the image TFwiki has been using for 4 years

I love all of the websites and resources that the wider TF fan community has put together over the decades, but I am begging Hasbro to start doing their own homework on this stuff. There's working smart and then there's being lazy. This one's the latter. C'mon y'all, you're making re-dos of your own company's characters, at least look up the old box art and instructions

Ruckus is the new Hori-bull.

Nice to see they went all in on Bludgeon, new head, new chest and new pelvis. I'm glad they didn't just go with "Legacy Bludgeon, but in inner bot colors" and did something more elaborate. I guess the lackluster second set of Breakdown and Windsweeper paid for this and the Deluxe Insecticons sets to be made the way they were.

Emerje

Do we have any idea on the release date?

soundwave765 wrote:Do we have any idea on the release date?

Nope, because this was a leak. It hasn't been officially announced yet.

I have had a soft spot fo Ruckus since I got him as a kid. I'll have to get this!

- Grim

I' really interested in that Bludgeon and Rukus set. So it's an Amazon exclusive? I'll be monitoring the listings like a hawk.

soundwave765 wrote:Do we have any idea on the release date?

Since the toys are done being made from the looks of it, I'm gonna hazard an educated guess of October. Maybe late September. Pure guesswork though, I have no facts here.

Damn, I have absolutely no interest in that Bludgeon, might sell him on Ebay or something. Or I might just buy a loose Ruckus from someone who has no interest in him. But I'm not too jazzed about this pairing in general to make me have to do that

ScottyP wrote:

soundwave765 wrote:Do we have any idea on the release date?

Since the toys are done being made from the looks of it, I'm gonna hazard an educated guess of October. Maybe late September. Pure guesswork though, I have no facts here.

Since they're part of the Doom and Destruction line I was expecting before the end of the summer.

SpaceEagle wrote:Damn, I have absolutely no interest in that Bludgeon, might sell him on Ebay or something. Or I might just buy a loose Ruckus from someone who has no interest in him. But I'm not too jazzed about this pairing in general to make me have to do that

You'll have an easier time selling Bludgeon than buying a loose Ruckus.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

SpaceEagle wrote:Damn, I have absolutely no interest in that Bludgeon, might sell him on Ebay or something. Or I might just buy a loose Ruckus from someone who has no interest in him. But I'm not too jazzed about this pairing in general to make me have to do that

You'll have an easier time selling Bludgeon than buying a loose Ruckus.

Yeah, most likely

bludgeon is very out of left field, but awesome looking, and Ruckus looks great!

Gonna dump a lot of photos here, but I think Sandstorm may be the figure of the year for me? He has become a real favorite of mine, 2 months and I cannot put him down. He's just so good. So fun. By far my favorite figure so far this year.

Also he was popular with my niece, and I finally found cage storage in robot mode!

















I also got my Magmatron. He is super neat, and well worth the cost. the one thing that bothers me, is that he is so thick in all 3 directions he is hard to handle in your hands.








Animated Bee is really fun






Chromia is neat




I also got Target Prime, somehow my 3rd use of this mediocre mold. I like this paint scheme though, and Spot is great.






I also got my first 2 mayhem sets, and all of them are pretty nice, though Chop Shop may be my favorite bug to date

Legacy Sideburn.

First impressions aren't good.

As fiddly as the original is, this thin is nowhere near any better.

Tabbing in the roof, is an exercise in frustration.

He's tiny, and he's not fun.
Robot mode is fine, and at least stands better than my original. but that's not saying much since my originla sideburn is 23 years old now.

This was a total miss by Hasbro. Not sure I want the other 2 Car Brothers if they are going to be this underwhelming.

Overcracker wrote:Legacy Sideburn.

First impressions aren't good.

As fiddly as the original is, this thin is nowhere near any better.

Tabbing in the roof, is an exercise in frustration.

He's tiny, and he's not fun.
Robot mode is fine, and at least stands better than my original. but that's not saying much since my originla sideburn is 23 years old now.

This was a total miss by Hasbro. Not sure I want the other 2 Car Brothers if they are going to be this underwhelming.

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You forgot to flip out a pannel under the chest for car mode, that's why there's a gap.

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Overcracker wrote: (snip)

Just pointing out that there is something in your signature that my anti-virus REALLY don't like.

Same for my antivirus software, as well.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Legacy Sideburn.

First impressions aren't good.

As fiddly as the original is, this thin is nowhere near any better.

Tabbing in the roof, is an exercise in frustration.

He's tiny, and he's not fun.
Robot mode is fine, and at least stands better than my original. but that's not saying much since my originla sideburn is 23 years old now.

This was a total miss by Hasbro. Not sure I want the other 2 Car Brothers if they are going to be this underwhelming.

IMG_7964.jpg

IMG_7962.jpg

IMG_7965.jpg

You forgot to flip out a pannel under the chest for car mode, that's why there's a gap.

Thanks. Still not a good update.

Also, the roof, is not pegging in, and the right arm doesn’t like to stay tabbed in.

At least the robot mode, is not terrible, and can pose somewhat.

Overcracker wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Legacy Sideburn.

First impressions aren't good.

As fiddly as the original is, this thin is nowhere near any better.

Tabbing in the roof, is an exercise in frustration.

He's tiny, and he's not fun.
Robot mode is fine, and at least stands better than my original. but that's not saying much since my originla sideburn is 23 years old now.

This was a total miss by Hasbro. Not sure I want the other 2 Car Brothers if they are going to be this underwhelming.

IMG_7964.jpg

IMG_7962.jpg

IMG_7965.jpg

You forgot to flip out a pannel under the chest for car mode, that's why there's a gap.

Thanks. Still not a good update.

Also, the roof, is not pegging in, and the right arm doesn’t like to stay tabbed in.

Ditto. I was so disappointed with mine.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Legacy Sideburn.

First impressions aren't good.

As fiddly as the original is, this thin is nowhere near any better.

Tabbing in the roof, is an exercise in frustration.

He's tiny, and he's not fun.
Robot mode is fine, and at least stands better than my original. but that's not saying much since my originla sideburn is 23 years old now.

This was a total miss by Hasbro. Not sure I want the other 2 Car Brothers if they are going to be this underwhelming.

IMG_7964.jpg

IMG_7962.jpg

IMG_7965.jpg

You forgot to flip out a pannel under the chest for car mode, that's why there's a gap.

Thanks. Still not a good update.

Also, the roof, is not pegging in, and the right arm doesn’t like to stay tabbed in.

Ditto. I was so disappointed with mine.

Same. No QC issues, but he just isn't fun. Best SideBurn is still the FunPub repaint of Classics Rodimus. Still hoping SS86 Hot Rod might get re-deco'd and released as a Fan Channel SideBurn.

ShadowBlaze wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:Legacy Sideburn.

First impressions aren't good.

As fiddly as the original is, this thin is nowhere near any better.

Tabbing in the roof, is an exercise in frustration.

He's tiny, and he's not fun.
Robot mode is fine, and at least stands better than my original. but that's not saying much since my originla sideburn is 23 years old now.

This was a total miss by Hasbro. Not sure I want the other 2 Car Brothers if they are going to be this underwhelming.

IMG_7964.jpg

IMG_7962.jpg

IMG_7965.jpg

You forgot to flip out a pannel under the chest for car mode, that's why there's a gap.

Thanks. Still not a good update.

Also, the roof, is not pegging in, and the right arm doesn’t like to stay tabbed in.

Ditto. I was so disappointed with mine.

Same. No QC issues, but he just isn't fun. Best SideBurn is still the FunPub repaint of Classics Rodimus. Still hoping SS86 Hot Rod might get re-deco'd and released as a Fan Channel SideBurn.

Just gonna leave here this here pic of "G1 Side Burn".

I always hated on Legacy Blitzwing ever since he was revealed. The tank with a "dick", the cancer growths under the jet wings, those clown hands that have nowhere to go without looking stupid...
...But for 2.50$CAN more expensive than a full priced voyager, he's way, WAY better in hand than anticipated. He feels good in hand, solid and of a nice quality. Plus those flaws in vehicle modes reminds me of my own customs that I make. So this make Blitzwing endearing to me. And finally, that robot mode is perfect.

But what about those clown hands?

THEY ARE A PERFECT FIT FOR G1 METROPLEX!

That specific Metroplex is a scrap body that I repaired. His waist joint was broken and the entire ratchet set from a knee was missing. After repairing everything, I was wondering if the clown hands would work on him. Of course, the regular fists ports are too large, but the sleeves fit snugly and solidly! I added the "scrap" G1 Strafe I got for 2$CAN at Comiccon and this is giving me a nice custom idea.

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Overcracker wrote: (snip)

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Same for my antivirus software, as well.

Hi, yeah the SSL certificate expired. It should now work without agitating your antivirus. Thanks.

Just found out the Japanese release of Legacy Magmatron has a cover box and it has gloriously anime style art updated for the new design!



Note the Beast Wars Neo logo in the top right corner and the D-35 designation from the original toy.

Incidentally, there's a new DNA upgrade kit for Tiger Hawk and Silverbolt that fixes several of the issues of both.

Emerje

Sabrblade wrote:Just gonna leave here this here pic of "G1 Side Burn".

$25 even if they changed the orange to white.

We’ve known we were getting Road Pig in the Walmart exclusive Legacy subline for a while. We saw random bits of him, like his arms, but only now do we finally get a good look at him. He will be part of the dame wave as the other Walmart exclusives like Lockdown and should appear in stores by the end of summer. But you never know with Walmart.

There are no preorders open for him right now. Check him out below and let us know what you think.

There's a little too much black but I like the red and love the gold

I know the g2 headsculpt is supposed to be iconic but a little too generic for my liking

Still a definite buy for me, I like the g2 symbol on him

Razorbeast88 wrote:There's a little too much black

As opposed to...?

Very cool, I'm really digging how the Junkion aesthetic works with him, adds to the menacing feel.

Sabrblade wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:There's a little too much black

As opposed to...?

As you saw with my comment about the headsculpt, the accuracy to the original is cool but a little more difference in headsculpt and some more color breakup would've been nice

I like that all of your replies sound like an excuse to correct people though, it's very pleasant