Transformers War for Cybertron Earthrise Official Images - Alicon, Quintesson, Doubledealer, and More #HasbroToyFair2020

The silver paint on ER-Megatron looks nice.

The figure is very similar to Siege overall but I think I prefer the detailing on this one -- closer to the cartoon. But again with the tank. I hope you can fake a decent gun-mode.

Smokescreen looks better than the Siege version, too. Both the deco and mold, like the MP.

Allicon actually has a tail, that's good.

How long till figures usually go on sale?

Most of these official images, we've already had. And I have to say, Megatron's renders don't exactly flatter him. The actual photos from the toy fair show him in a somewhat better light, he looks like he's actually silver in those instead of bland gray. Still doesn't have that much going for him, sadly.

I'm sort of underwhelmed by the Earthrise reveals this event, there is some cool stuff in here, but I am not near as stoked as I thought I would be by them.

Am super happy Doubledealer will have his Powermasters, that is a huge deal for me.

Well, I'm stoked for Snapdragon, Scorponok, Fasttrack, Sky Lynx, and Doubledealer. I'm modestly looking forward to Airwave, the Allicon, Arcee, Runamuck, the Quintesson, and probably Smokescreen.

The Allicon looks really cool, but I have to say I'm very disappointed they didn't engineer a way to hide his robot hands in beast mode. It's pretty unsightly. I honestly expect better from Generations in 2020. That aside though, he is awesome!

Everything in Earthrise looks so amazing, it's all a buy for me. I also might have to buy multiples of the modulators and definitely multiples of the ramp bots. ouch. it'll be nice to finally have a complete trio of proper earth datsuns.

Except that you can't really count ER Smokescreen as a "Proper Earth Datsun" per se, because he actually looks less Datsun-like than the SIEGE mold. His new hood and front end make him look more like a 21st-century Nissan than a semi-classic Datsun Fairlady.

Honestly, Earthrise has a lot of good stuff, but only a few of these new reveals appeal to me. Those would be Sky Lynx, Airwave, Fasttrack, and Doubledealer. I’m royally ticked off that Hasbro squandered a shot at Prime Smokescreen.

You were royally deluding yourself if you thought that he was even a contender.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:You were royally deluding yourself if you thought that he was even a contender.

Sad but true, the rumours even said it would be his G1 self.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Except that you can't really count ER Smokescreen as a "Proper Earth Datsun" per se, because he actually looks less Datsun-like than the SIEGE mold. His new hood and front end make him look more like a 21st-century Nissan than a semi-classic Datsun Fairlady.

unfortunately for you i throw the term around willy nilly and aren't actually a stickler for accurate car forms and just wished for a mold that was more accurate than the cw mold and not crap like the classics (or was it universe?) mold

also i agree that there was no hope for prime smokescreen at all. if we see any homages at all to prime i will be surprised

Rainmaker wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Except that you can't really count ER Smokescreen as a "Proper Earth Datsun" per se, because he actually looks less Datsun-like than the SIEGE mold. His new hood and front end make him look more like a 21st-century Nissan than a semi-classic Datsun Fairlady.

unfortunately for you i throw the term around willy nilly and aren't actually a stickler for accurate car forms and just wished for a mold that was more accurate than the cw mold and not crap like the classics (or was it universe?) mold

I don't think the the Universe mold was crap, but the legs sure as hell aren't G1-accurate.

I nitpicked the Datsun name use b/c I'm something of a fan of Datsuns and I like the aesthetics of the Autobot cars' '80s altmodes better than I do those of the Classics and Universe modernizations.

There was mention of Sky Lynx's base mode being like the Micromaster rocket base and while it is vaguely similar, overall it is not that. I bring this up because I'd really love to see the big ol Rocket Base and hope this is not meant as a real substitute.

Liking what's here for Earthrise. If it's gotta be G1, at least there's extremely little 84/85 here. Quintesson looks fun and I'm glad they just went with a base mode instead of trying to do too much. Hopefully the Alicon can "lay down", maybe it can and I missed that in the pictures.

Really dig the little snake ramp dude. Reminds me a bit of that Headrobots kit from forever ago.

The Siege repaints do nothing for me but it's smart to get those out for when the show's on. That Mirage redeco gives me Rescue Bots Morbot vibes, at least in the alt mode.

Hot off the presses!

Earthrise prices:

Allicon: £16.99/£16.95

Airwave: £16.99/£16.95

Arcee: £16.99/£16.95

Chromia: £19.99

Decepticon Mirage: £19.99

Doubledealer: £46.99/£43.95

Fasttrack: £16.99/£16.95

Hound: £19.99

Hotlink: £39.99

Megatron: £39.99

Runamuck: £16.99/£16.95

Scrapface: £19.99

Scorponok: £137.99/£134.97

Sideswipe: £19.99/£16.95

Sky lynx: £77.99/£72.95

Smokescreen: £16.99/£16.95

Snapdragon: £23.99/£22.95

Quintesson Judge: £23.99/£22.95

These are the initial pre-orders up for Indemand Toys and Kapow, respectively

Hoooo boy, a lot to unpack here. The Quintesson looks great, and it's a proper Quintesson at long last. Definitely want him, and maybe even Energon Alpha Q to go with him (if I can find one!). The rest look good, with three notable exceptions.

Arcee is just mediocre. The "hoverboard" is pretty feeble and gives her a gigantic backpack if left on, also the rear of her, uh, rear is unpainted, making her look like she's wearing backless panties gone wrong.

Doubledealer looks kinda gaff too, the robot mode has some weird proportions and the vehicle mode is a bit shonky. The bird mode is awful but that's to be expected from Doubledealer.

The Alicon, YIKES. That looks bad. His arms really should have pulled a POTP Terrorcon and been reused for beast mode with the hands flipped around for claws, rather than...whatever the hell they went with there. On the plus side, he did give me and a friend a laugh; we've decided he is Blot's processor-challenged little brother, Plop. As such I might buy him for a giggle.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I nitpicked the Datsun name use b/c I'm something of a fan of Datsuns and I like the aesthetics of the Autobot cars' '80s altmodes better than I do those of the Classics and Universe modernizations.

I mean, when I think of a classic Import car the Datsun is what usually pops into my mind.And the Siege Smokescreen looks closer to this than the Earthrise Smokescreen. I think it's the bottom grill that makes it look more like a Japanese tuner.I do like how the Earthrise figure has side mounted rearview mirrors.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:You were royally deluding yourself if you thought that he was even a contender.

Can't stop me from hoping.

If I'm not mistaken, the Quintesson's faces can spin right?

Has it been mentioned that this box says "Battlefield Rung"? I'm sure it has, just tough to keep up with all the info on these event weekends.

Also worth noting is some of the branding seems to being referring to these figures as 'Netflix series' and not Earthrise, with some re-releases from SIEGE being thrown in too.

If you are a car enthusiast and think the siege smokescreen looks like a datsun or a car... Egads. Sounds like a joke but my mum had a datsun so I just can't see it tho I'm really not a car enthusiast and thought the fairlady wasn't even a datsun until recently.
Also sounds like more of a joke... Datsun to a....Triumph...to a... Lada.

blackeyedprime wrote:If you are a car enthusiast and think the siege smokescreen looks like a datsun or a car... Egads. Sounds like a joke but my mum had a datsun so I just can't see it tho I'm really not a car enthusiast and thought the fairlady wasn't even a datsun until recently.
Also sounds like more of a joke... Datsun to a....Triumph...to a... Lada.

The overall silhouette is like the Fairlady's, and the way the shoulder pins are done ends up looking like the signature Datsun headlights.

blackeyedprime wrote:If you are a car enthusiast and think the siege smokescreen looks like a datsun or a car... Egads. Sounds like a joke but my mum had a datsun so I just can't see it tho I'm really not a car enthusiast and thought the fairlady wasn't even a datsun until recently.
Also sounds like more of a joke... Datsun to a....Triumph...to a... Lada.

I mean, it has a long front without much of a lower bumper and that rounded hatch-back look. But upon closer inspection I really hope they make Smokescreen and drop the bottom bumper. That thing is huge and sticks out. Get rid of that and the new mold would actually be way more accurate.

Anyone else getting Jazz vibes from that Smokescreen, alt mode looks similar enough and robot mode is simplistic. Soooo Hasbro get on that?

Logsters65 wrote:Anyone else getting Jazz vibes from that Smokescreen, alt mode looks similar enough and robot mode is simplistic. Soooo Hasbro get on that?

While I'm not bothered by ER Megatron and Smokescreen, I would be bothered by another Jazz. We already just got PotP Jazz who was okay and RTS Jazz is already setting a high standard.

aronjlove wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:If you are a car enthusiast and think the siege smokescreen looks like a datsun or a car... Egads. Sounds like a joke but my mum had a datsun so I just can't see it tho I'm really not a car enthusiast and thought the fairlady wasn't even a datsun until recently.
Also sounds like more of a joke... Datsun to a....Triumph...to a... Lada.

I mean, it has a long front without much of a lower bumper and that rounded hatch-back look. But upon closer inspection I really hope they make Smokescreen and drop the bottom bumper. That thing is huge and sticks out. Get rid of that and the new mold would actually be way more accurate.

You'd also need to change the headlights.

If they make the others, the spoiler and the bottom bumper are hopefully Smokescreen-specific. They makes sense on him, but not the others.

ScottyP wrote:There was mention of Sky Lynx's base mode being like the Micromaster rocket base and while it is vaguely similar, overall it is not that. I bring this up because I'd really love to see the big ol Rocket Base and hope this is not meant as a real substitute.

It definitely sounded like this is the closest we're getting to the Rocket Base for the immediate future. I'm not sure there's a middle ground between the vintage toy and the Sky Lynx base model.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

aronjlove wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:If you are a car enthusiast and think the siege smokescreen looks like a datsun or a car... Egads. Sounds like a joke but my mum had a datsun so I just can't see it tho I'm really not a car enthusiast and thought the fairlady wasn't even a datsun until recently.
Also sounds like more of a joke... Datsun to a....Triumph...to a... Lada.

I mean, it has a long front without much of a lower bumper and that rounded hatch-back look. But upon closer inspection I really hope they make Smokescreen and drop the bottom bumper. That thing is huge and sticks out. Get rid of that and the new mold would actually be way more accurate.

You'd also need to change the headlights.

If they make the others, the spoiler and the bottom bumper are hopefully Smokescreen-specific. They makes sense on him, but not the others.

Hopefully they'll remove them, I can't believe it'd be possible for them not to but it is because CW Smokescreen exists.

aronjlove wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I nitpicked the Datsun name use b/c I'm something of a fan of Datsuns and I like the aesthetics of the Autobot cars' '80s altmodes better than I do those of the Classics and Universe modernizations.

I mean, when I think of a classic Import car the Datsun is what usually pops into my mind.And the Siege Smokescreen looks closer to this than the Earthrise Smokescreen. I think it's the bottom grill that makes it look more like a Japanese tuner.I do like how the Earthrise figure has side mounted rearview mirrors.

Consider this, the actual car whose livery inspired Smokescreen's deco:



It's a lot more accurate than you realize, other than the aero headlights, which are actually seen on some Fairlady racing cars and tuners. It's hard to imagine a more accurate alt mode that isn't officially licensed by Nissan. Now, I don't see them removing the front air dam for the inevitable Prowl and Bluestreak repaints like they should, but even if they didn't I'd say they did an excellent job of capturing the essence of the vehicle.

I know a lot of people are bummed about Arcee's "jetboard" but I notice on this pic it has little flip-out sides that the Hasbro Pulse render does not display. And the car render definitely has what looks to be wgite 5mm posts on the back and side so her feet are secured on top of the piece. Not sure if this changes anyone's mind but it thought it was cool and she is preordered.

So I did preorder some of these including the select cassettes but will most likely cancel due to the fact I will see them in stores before Pulse even gets them which if I was Hasbro I would fix. Except for the Selects cassettes. Skylynx and Scorponok I will get on Amazon around Christmas when they are cheaper.

kirbenvost wrote:Consider this, the actual car whose livery inspired Smokescreen's deco:



It's a lot more accurate than you realize, other than the aero headlights, which are actually seen on some Fairlady racing cars and tuners. It's hard to imagine a more accurate alt mode that isn't officially licensed by Nissan. Now, I don't see them removing the front air dam for the inevitable Prowl and Bluestreak repaints like they should, but even if they didn't I'd say they did an excellent job of capturing the essence of the vehicle.

Wow, thanks for posting this! Never knew that bit of backstory.

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aronjlove wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:Consider this, the actual car whose livery inspired Smokescreen's deco:



It's a lot more accurate than you realize, other than the aero headlights, which are actually seen on some Fairlady racing cars and tuners. It's hard to imagine a more accurate alt mode that isn't officially licensed by Nissan. Now, I don't see them removing the front air dam for the inevitable Prowl and Bluestreak repaints like they should, but even if they didn't I'd say they did an excellent job of capturing the essence of the vehicle.

Wow, thanks for posting this! Never knew that bit of backstory.

You're welcome. It's pretty cool what they did with the old Diaclone-based TFs. Jazz and Mirage are also based on real racecars.

kirbenvost wrote:

aronjlove wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:Consider this, the actual car whose livery inspired Smokescreen's deco:



It's a lot more accurate than you realize, other than the aero headlights, which are actually seen on some Fairlady racing cars and tuners. It's hard to imagine a more accurate alt mode that isn't officially licensed by Nissan. Now, I don't see them removing the front air dam for the inevitable Prowl and Bluestreak repaints like they should, but even if they didn't I'd say they did an excellent job of capturing the essence of the vehicle.

Wow, thanks for posting this! Never knew that bit of backstory.

You're welcome. It's pretty cool what they did with the old Diaclone-based TFs. Jazz and Mirage are also based on real racecars.

Really hope they give us a completely newly molded Jazz. Def a reach, but worth hoping for. Also, would love another Warpath at some point.

Cyberpath wrote:

The silver paint on ER-Megatron looks nice.

The figure is very similar to Siege overall but I think I prefer the detailing on this one -- closer to the cartoon. But again with the tank. I hope you can fake a decent gun-mode.

Smokescreen looks better than the Siege version, too. Both the deco and mold, like the MP.

Allicon actually has a tail, that's good.

How long till figures usually go on sale?

I think these are due out in September. Also, be wary of that paint on Megatron, these are usually painted prototypes, I would not take these as the final deco in any instance.

ScottyP wrote:Has it been mentioned that this box says "Battlefield Rung"? I'm sure it has, just tough to keep up with all the info on these event weekends.

It was brought up by D-Max. I guess that means it's one of the extras found inside.

Leader-class Ultra Magnus repainted as Rung, with inner Voyager-class bot repainted as Rung, plus Rung Battlemaster repainted as Minimus. You heard it here first.

Seibertron now has a whole gallery with fresh new images and views of the Transformers War for Cybertron Earthrise display from the 2020 Toy Fair. Here we get clearer views and different angles for deluxes Arcee and Smokescreen, Airwave as the 2nd Micromaster base to be given a robot mode and named a Modulator, the first ever Allicon figure, and Fasttrack as a weaponizer/modulator type bot for Scorponok.

In the voyager class size, we have a new Earth mode Megatron who is a retool of his Siege self with new parts to resemble an Earth tank. We also have a Quintesson toy that turns into a base/prison mode complete with a cage large enough to hold Micromasters. Finally, we have Snapdragon, who finally complete our G1 Headmasters set from The Rebirth.

The larger classes include Leader class Doubledealer, who has all 3 of his original modes plus new base-compatible pieces to join up with the growing number of base/city bots. His powermasters will be sold in the Selects line as the Soundwave Spy Patrol Part 3. We also have a glorious Commander class Sky Lynx, and the Titan class Scorponok with Lord Zarak himself.

You can also see the Generations Selects casette pack which do include Doubledealer's partners.

You can go to the entire gallery here or click on any image to be brought there. And you can click here to see all the different galleries we have for Toy Fair 2020.

aronjlove wrote:

Dr. Caelus wrote:

M. Spector wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I'm pretty sure he has his dinosaur mode, I can see the feet folded up on his arms.

Looking at Runamuck reaffirms my belief that Sunny will be a Wheeljack retool.

The Quintesson's base bits look fun.

I'll take it on faith he does the. Honestly that makes me more excited if its that well hidden/integrated into the other modes

The preorder listing on Pulse has the dino mode.

https://hasbropulse.com/collections/gen ... snapdragon

The Titan Master's legs are the jaw!

As a huge fan of the Titan Master gimmick, confirmation of Titan Master compatibility puts Snapdragon on my list.

Was anyone able to ask if Knok and Skar have any way to interact with Doubledealer outside of 5mm pegs? I hope they have slots that they can be inserted into, but if it's just pegging on, that's fine too

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Was anyone able to ask if Knok and Skar have any way to interact with Doubledealer outside of 5mm pegs? I hope they have slots that they can be inserted into, but if it's just pegging on, that's fine too

I saw a photo where it looks like they can sit inside of his chest

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Was anyone able to ask if Knok and Skar have any way to interact with Doubledealer outside of 5mm pegs? I hope they have slots that they can be inserted into, but if it's just pegging on, that's fine too

I saw a photo where it looks like they can sit inside of his chest

Nice! I'm glad that at least some of the powermaster gimmick is present, even if they've been turned into cassettes

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Was anyone able to ask if Knok and Skar have any way to interact with Doubledealer outside of 5mm pegs? I hope they have slots that they can be inserted into, but if it's just pegging on, that's fine too

I saw a photo where it looks like they can sit inside of his chest

Nice! I'm glad that at least some of the powermaster gimmick is present, even if they've been turned into cassettes

Agreed! I was super happy to see them revealed in the live stream. That will complete Doubledealer.

I consider Prime and Getaway sort of complete since they have headmasters named for their powermasters. Dreadwind and Darkwing aren't complete since they don't have their partners. and we still need Joyride and Slapdash

So DD's Minions will ride along Soundwave's in a Select box?
I'm fine with that, but as long that it's a Select available at TrU or Walmart, not some hard to obtain exclusive bull.

After going through the gallery and obsessing studying the images of Doubledealer for research purposes, I noticed one of them had Doubledealer's robot mode with Decepticon badges! Does that mean that he'll have a rotating badge gimmick like Jetfire and Universe Dinobot?

Its on BBTS: https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/ ... ils/117462

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Was anyone able to ask if Knok and Skar have any way to interact with Doubledealer outside of 5mm pegs? I hope they have slots that they can be inserted into, but if it's just pegging on, that's fine too

I saw a photo where it looks like they can sit inside of his chest

Nice! I'm glad that at least some of the powermaster gimmick is present, even if they've been turned into cassettes

Agreed! I was super happy to see them revealed in the live stream. That will complete Doubledealer.

I consider Prime and Getaway sort of complete since they have headmasters named for their powermasters. Dreadwind and Darkwing aren't complete since they don't have their partners. and we still need Joyride and Slapdash

Frankly, I'm hoping for a proper Lightfoot/Getaway in part 3 of the trilogy alongside Joyride and Road King/Slapdash, and maybe a fresh go at Dreadwind (possibly as a CW Mirage reshell rather than an Aerialbot retool).

9 pages later I finally catch back up...

Sentinel_Primal wrote:After going through the gallery and obsessing studying the images of Doubledealer for research purposes, I noticed one of them had Doubledealer's robot mode with Decepticon badges! Does that mean that he'll have a rotating badge gimmick like Jetfire and Universe Dinobot?

Probably, but I don't think they're meant for use in this mode since it's his Autobot mode. In his bird mode the symbols would still be visible from beneath so it makes sense to be able to change them.

One thing that I don't think has been mentioned is that not only does the blue chest portion flip all the way down to over his legs for bird mode, but there's also a pivot point just below it so you can spin it around. I bet you can turn it around and snap it back in place to expose Skar or Knok in his chest (or under the bird) outright, basically making him a Breastmaster. Trying to figure out why he comes with the little gun. Nothing wrong with more weapons, but it's strange when the original didn't have it and they're usually so frugal.

The Allicon is neat, but when I look at it all I can see is this:



Also his descriptions says, "An obedient guard, this Quintesson Allicon converts into beast modes in 14 steps and comes with a spear accessory." Beast modes, plural. Probably a typo but he does have an extra forward tilt joint just above his feet that isn't used for either mode. Maybe he's hiding a third form?

Glad the Judge looks good because I have no intention of changing him into anything else.

I'm so tired of Micromaster cars. Howabout some more jets or something?

Emerje

Sentinel_Primal wrote:After going through the gallery and obsessing studying the images of Doubledealer for research purposes, I noticed one of them had Doubledealer's robot mode with Decepticon badges! Does that mean that he'll have a rotating badge gimmick like Jetfire and Universe Dinobot?

He has hinges and flap on top of the symbol. You just flip that hinge up for down to change allegiance

Has it been said, officially, yet what the name of Scorponok's middleman head bot will be? "Megazarak" is currently just a fan guess, as far as I know.