The Energon Pub

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Afterall, Hasbro gave us a way better BW 10th anniversary than it did the 20th anniversary of G1.

But the 2004 was chock full of stuff that honored G1 from Hasbro: Hasbro's release of MP-1 Convoy, the Commemorative Series G1 reissue line, the Alternators line, and several awesome G1-inspired toys in the Energon line (among some inferior Energon toys, but those were far and few compared to the good ones). About the only thing Hasbro had going in 2004 that didn't celebrate the anniversary was the first Universe line and the Playskool Go-Bots line.

But it wasnt an outright anniversary. The energon line didnt have stickers highlighting the anniversary, for example. It was just a show line.

It was an anniversary in spirit. Why else would the Energon line contain so many specifically-G1 homages within itself when this was an age where Hasbro didn't pay homage to G1 in any of its main lines?

Well then wouldnt that be the line to be against, instead of classics, for the state in which we are now?

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Afterall, Hasbro gave us a way better BW 10th anniversary than it did the 20th anniversary of G1.

But the 2004 was chock full of stuff that honored G1 from Hasbro: Hasbro's release of MP-1 Convoy, the Commemorative Series G1 reissue line, the Alternators line, and several awesome G1-inspired toys in the Energon line (among some inferior Energon toys, but those were far and few compared to the good ones). About the only thing Hasbro had going in 2004 that didn't celebrate the anniversary was the first Universe line and the Playskool Go-Bots line.

But it wasnt an outright anniversary. The energon line didnt have stickers highlighting the anniversary, for example. It was just a show line.

It was an anniversary in spirit. Why else would the Energon line contain so many specifically-G1 homages within itself when this was an age where Hasbro didn't pay homage to G1 in any of its main lines?

Well then wouldnt that be the line to be against, instead of classics, for the state in which we are now?

It homaged G1 without being G1, Classics was G1 in updated form.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Afterall, Hasbro gave us a way better BW 10th anniversary than it did the 20th anniversary of G1.

But the 2004 was chock full of stuff that honored G1 from Hasbro: Hasbro's release of MP-1 Convoy, the Commemorative Series G1 reissue line, the Alternators line, and several awesome G1-inspired toys in the Energon line (among some inferior Energon toys, but those were far and few compared to the good ones). About the only thing Hasbro had going in 2004 that didn't celebrate the anniversary was the first Universe line and the Playskool Go-Bots line.

But it wasnt an outright anniversary. The energon line didnt have stickers highlighting the anniversary, for example. It was just a show line.

It was an anniversary in spirit. Why else would the Energon line contain so many specifically-G1 homages within itself when this was an age where Hasbro didn't pay homage to G1 in any of its main lines?

Well then wouldnt that be the line to be against, instead of classics, for the state in which we are now?

Its homaged G1 without being G1, Classics was G1 in updated form.

But Prime, RID, the movies, Animated, all of those are homages to G1 rather than being G1 in update form. And that started with Energon, no?

EDIT: Na, I take that back, G2 is the first time we had G1 in updated forms.

william-james88 wrote:But Prime, RID, the movies, Animated, all of those are homages to G1 rather than being G1 in update form. And that started with Energon, no?

EDIT: Na, I take that back, G2 is the first time we had G1 in updated forms.

Yeah, and G2 was the line that nearly killed the brand.

But all those other lines you mentioned were post-Classics, when G1's resurgence was in full swing. Energon's homages may have been evocative of G1, but for the most part they weren't nearly as on the mark as the homages and direct updates that would come later in future lines.

TF Source has the planet of junk set up for preorder. Look at that jaw dropping price:

http://tfsource.com/platinum/planet-of-junk/

Holy scrap.....that price....

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Holy scrap.....that price....

Haha, yeah. But you know why its high right? Its because its a retail exclusive in the states. Look at how much they sold last year's platinums compared to the actual retailers.

I mean look at how much they are still charging for that seeker set: http://tfsource.com/platinum/seeker-set/

Not a terrible price, but still above retail. And remember, they were selling Platinum Trypticon for 200$.

Definitely far too much for 3 deluxe's of questionable mold quality

Yeah, high prices all around. Little bit ridiculous, but I still understand it somewhat

To any american, just wait till they show up at their exclusive US retailer.

http://www.allspark.com/2016/01/platinu ... on-leaked/

Well there's your answer. Now they're getting so lazy they aren't even bothering to finish painting their Platinum Editions. Oh man, that has got to be the saddest premium I've ever seen! Easy pass, I've already got a better looking Classics Prime and funny colored Megatron from Hasbro, I don't need this set.



Emerje

See, despite looking half done, I own neither of the molds. So a set like this is ideal for me unless they put the price at something daft like £60.

We recently reported about a new redeceo of the Classics Optimus Prime mold and there were a few theories.

Was this a product that has yet to see release? Or an unannounced edition that has since been canceled after some were already produced?

Well it turns out it is indeed an upcoming product that was not released at the time. As fellow Seibertronians Emerge and Sabrblade informed us, this is actually part of a Platinum set featuring redecos of both Classics Optimus Prime and Megatron.

We know this now because Allspark member lastmaximal found the actual set at a specialty store in the Philippines. It seems that the copies found on e-bay are the finished product since the deco is unaltered between what we have seen and what is shown on the box with Optimus having unpainted translucent blue parts in the front of his vehicle mode.

Megatron himself has the translucent plastic theme going on as well with the gun shell being a translucent red. Also, the rerelease of the Classics Megatron gun toy means that unlike what was stated on TF Wiki, Hasbro's policies for these types of transforming toys (toy guns of any kind) are more lax then previously believed.

So, is anybody interested in picking this set up? let us know on the boards!






Update: here are some extra images of the Optimus Prime, found on weibo

Looking at these pictures again, I'm surprised that they haven't gone to town on megs as a nerf crossover product (he is a nerf gun isn't he?)

As for their policies on toy guns, I never thought much on it as it comes from the owners of the nerf brand, a brand that does nothing but toy guns.

Those are gaudy as hell and I dig that about them. Even though the clear bits make Prime's alt mode look unfinished I like how it makes those parts stand out less in bot mode. I dig the decos and I don't own either of these molds, so I'll be keeping an eye on this one.

To be fair, this is Hasbro Asia rather than Hasbro proper, and I imagine that this mightn't make it to brick-and-mortar stores in the U.S., so we very well probably won't be seeing this Megatron at U.S. retail, making it be online only like the majority of Platinums have been for the U.S. So the statement of "We cannot sell the Classics Megatron mold at U.S. retail anymore" from Hasbro proper may still hold up.

Sabrblade wrote:To be fair, this is Hasbro Asia rather than Hasbro proper, and I imagine that this mightn't make it to brick-and-mortar stores in the U.S., so we very well probably won't be seeing this Megatron at U.S. retail, making it be online only like the majority of Platinums have been for the U.S. So the statement of "We cannot sell the Classics Megatron mold at U.S. retail anymore" from Hasbro proper may still hold up.

So there would be a different law between what Target stocks on shelves and what they only have online?

Also, while the Year of the "__" figures are Hasbro Asia, I thought the other platinums were decided by Hasbro proper, no? The prices have been a bit more fair for those.

ZeroWolf wrote:Looking at these pictures again, I'm surprised that they haven't gone to town on megs as a nerf crossover product (he is a nerf gun isn't he?)

Yes, Megs is based on an N-Strike Maverick. This is one of those obvious things that Hasbro doesn't understand (like a TF vs G.I. Joe line). They've even made a few Transformers Nerf guns.

Emerje

Goddamnit Hasbro. I really want a version of the Classics Prime mold but that deco is pretty boring (though I reckon a bit of paint on the clear plastic sides would improve it a lot). Meanwhile, I don;t like Megatron as a gun but that Megatron in those colours looks fantastic.

ARGH.

Megs and Optimus look pretty damn good here. Anyone who don't already have either of these molds should defenitely pick them up. AND DONT WAIT FOR A SALE. Unless they ask for a stupid 200$CAN TrU price, this is a set that will me scalped to oblivion if it ever get on clearance. Hell, maybe even at full price.

I already own Hekei Optimus and Megatron, plus classic Ultra magnus, Nemesis Prime, and Megatron. So I'm gona pass. Any beginner TF collector would be mad to pass this set up.

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I wonder if that Optimus will have a floppy rooftop like in the AoE 2 pack?

carytheone wrote:Those are gaudy as hell and I dig that about them. Even though the clear bits make Prime's alt mode look unfinished I like how it makes those parts stand out less in bot mode. I dig the decos and I don't own either of these molds, so I'll be keeping an eye on this one.

Just when I want to get out of CHUG, they bring me back in!! I'm looking forward to the Junkion set too, stupid me and my 30 anniversary of The Transformers: The Movie nostalgia!!

How about I send you the original Classics versions (complete with boxes!!) and I get the new ones. Sounds great. You'll see them when we get confirmation of release in the U.S.

itscramtastic wrote:

carytheone wrote:Those are gaudy as hell and I dig that about them. Even though the clear bits make Prime's alt mode look unfinished I like how it makes those parts stand out less in bot mode. I dig the decos and I don't own either of these molds, so I'll be keeping an eye on this one.

Just when I want to get out of CHUG, they bring me back in!! I'm looking forward to the Junkion set too, stupid me and my 30 anniversary of The Transformers: The Movie nostalgia!!

How about I send you the original Classics versions (complete with boxes!!) and I get the new ones. Sounds great. You'll see them when we get confirmation of release in the U.S.

Tempting, but I really like the look of these.

The giant Autobot insignia, that wick Megadeco. This set is really doing it for me. I'm glad I skipped that AoE set with the classics prime. Too much chrome for my tastes.

Um, wat.

This was pretty unexpected. Unlike the Junkion Clash set, this doesn't appeal to me at all, mainly because I already have the original uses of these molds. The translucent parts really kill it for me, and so feel like Megatron's got too much red on him. This is one of those things I can breathe a sigh of relief and say "Pass".

carytheone wrote:
The giant Autobot insignia, that wick Megadeco. This set is really doing it for me. I'm glad I skipped that AoE set with the classics prime. Too much chrome for my tastes.

Thatvset was AWESOME and really nicely priced too!

Fire Guts Megatron