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Nekoman wrote:I think the KO serves okay as a fill in for Thundercracker. Though I gotta say, after paint supplies, reprolabels and the cost of importing the knockoff, wouldn't it not be much cheaper than actually buying Gentei Thundercracker? Reprolabels aren't exactly cheap.
Electron wrote:sledge your comments are like a fat chick raping a hot dog, its unpleasent to watch but in the end its gonna happen
Mr O wrote:I'm part Irish, part Scottish, very Welsh, mostly drunk, somewhat Transformers nerd and all bastard.
GetterDragun wrote:Absolute Zero wrote:GetterDragun wrote:Absolute Zero wrote:I could own Thundercracker, without having to pay $90s for a toy? Sign me up!
Nope, but you could own a light blue KO though!
So? Does the Fans Project City Commander not equal a KO of Ultra Magnus? Or their Defender release not equal a KO of Springer? I don't see the point of debate. So what if it's a KO, half the toys that are in the news on the site are KOs.
What if it is? It's illegal! This is the intellectual property of Hasbro.
So you're saying you're ok with people stealing stuff. And I'm assuming that as long as it's not your stuff it is ok.
Buying knockoffs is stealing.
Scaleface wrote:Neither Defender nor City Commander are knockoffs, they are original molds. Even I admit, this is a copied mold from Hasbro. owning one isn't illegal, and it's up to Hasbro to sue the manufacturers if they feel these violate their IP.
Scaleface wrote:This is a knockoff, it's also one many fans have been hoping for for years. Hurray for blue seeker knockoffs!
The topic shouldn't be "Buyers Beware: KO Classic Skywarp & Thundercracker" it should be "Buyers Rejoice: KO Classic Skywarp & Thundercracker!"
I hope we get a nice "orange seeker" too.
Even if you have a Thundercracker already, maybe this can be one of the Rainmakers or something.
City Commander wrote:I'm sorry my post was so blunt, but doesn't it boil down to the same? You're angry because a figure you bought for a large sum is now more or less available to the wider audience for less right?
But then, and what I can't understand, you know this isn't botcon TC. Anyone buying botcon TC will know it's not (going on the thought that botcon collectors have actually seen the figure they want before going out to find it), it's obviously inferior in that it's plain blue and undoubtedly lower grade plastic. Why get annoyed by it, and take shots at others that like it?
You're not the only one who bought botcon Thundercracker man.
Besides, what I could've written would have been a tired argument that has been posted many times before, every time classics TC raises his head. And I'm tired of posting it.
Absolute Zero wrote:GetterDragun wrote:Absolute Zero wrote:GetterDragun wrote:Absolute Zero wrote:I could own Thundercracker, without having to pay $90s for a toy? Sign me up!
Nope, but you could own a light blue KO though!
So? Does the Fans Project City Commander not equal a KO of Ultra Magnus? Or their Defender release not equal a KO of Springer? I don't see the point of debate. So what if it's a KO, half the toys that are in the news on the site are KOs.
What if it is? It's illegal! This is the intellectual property of Hasbro.
So you're saying you're ok with people stealing stuff. And I'm assuming that as long as it's not your stuff it is ok.
Buying knockoffs is stealing.
Remember that when the Fansproject Defender comes out, or when the HOS Prime comes out.
GetterDragun wrote:City Commander wrote:I'm sorry my post was so blunt, but doesn't it boil down to the same? You're angry because a figure you bought for a large sum is now more or less available to the wider audience for less right?
But then, and what I can't understand, you know this isn't botcon TC. Anyone buying botcon TC will know it's not (going on the thought that botcon collectors have actually seen the figure they want before going out to find it), it's obviously inferior in that it's plain blue and undoubtedly lower grade plastic. Why get annoyed by it, and take shots at others that like it?
You're not the only one who bought botcon Thundercracker man.
Besides, what I could've written would have been a tired argument that has been posted many times before, every time classics TC raises his head. And I'm tired of posting it.
I find it funny you are assuming I'm mad about the money I spent on BotCon Thundercracker. I paid less than $40 for both of mine. It is only you who are assuming that I am mad about the money. I never said anything about the cost, it's just funny that you are the one who keeps bringing up the cost.
I'm upset at knockoffs because they are stealing Hasbro's intellectual property. I also find all the justification for KOs funny too. I'm sorry, but it is stealing. If you can't afford it, you don't get to buy it. Same thing with movie and music torrents, you didn't pay for it, so you don't get to have it.
Electron wrote:sledge your comments are like a fat chick raping a hot dog, its unpleasent to watch but in the end its gonna happen
Mr O wrote:I'm part Irish, part Scottish, very Welsh, mostly drunk, somewhat Transformers nerd and all bastard.
Scaleface wrote:Loki God Of Mischief wrote:I might try my hand at kitbashing with them if they're cheap enough. Does the site have a picture of Skywarp Scaleface? Is he repainted like the Thundercracker KO?
Here are pictures of the KO white seeker and the KO black seeker no one seems to care about as much as the KO blue seeker:
As you can see they have also perfectly Knocked off Hasbro's ability to mistransform toys on the backs of the boxes!
Real Devastator wrote:Loki God Of Mischief wrote:
Receiving stolen property actually. But then again so is buying stolen Chinese Prototypes/toys.
That is if it was a crime. Buying knockoffs is not a crime. Making them may or may not depending on the country of origin. And usually the stores buying them have no clue that they are knock offs. However buying stolen merchandise actually is a crime.
Look. Can we just agree to disagree and avoid a bunch of drama? People don't agree with you, you don't agree with them. The only rational thing is for everyone to just accept that both parties have valid arguments and neither side is completely correct.
I need to correct u that the prototypes or for that matter S250 or Gen Zhao's newly unseen toys etc, are NOT stolen toys.
Those are rejects from the factory that unable to pass the QC.
These rejects are put on sale, so u will see it on eBay or someone else will buy it and post the images online way before official release.
Eg. Leader Class Starscream - why are the toys from Peaugh or Seibertron gallery or S250 etc, the electronic gimmicks are dead? We have seen Leader Class SS toys, but no one can confirm what is his voice gimmicks now right?
Why is such a coincidence?
If you are interested to be another guy that has access to unseen/unrelease toys and has loads of money, i can tell you who or where to look for.
Do you think Hasbro has such poor security system that they keep losing toys everyday continuously for 20 or 30 years?
I dont think Hasbro is stupid, all the news (officially or unofficially) are sanction by them, one way or another.
GetterDragun wrote:I find it funny you are assuming I'm mad about the money I spent on BotCon Thundercracker. I paid less than $40 for both of mine. It is only you who are assuming that I am mad about the money. I never said anything about the cost, it's just funny that you are the one who keeps bringing up the cost.
GetterDragun wrote:Absolute Zero wrote:I could own Thundercracker, without having to pay $90s for a toy? Sign me up!
Nope, but you could own a light blue KO though!
City Commander wrote:GetterDragun wrote:City Commander wrote:I'm sorry my post was so blunt, but doesn't it boil down to the same? You're angry because a figure you bought for a large sum is now more or less available to the wider audience for less right?
But then, and what I can't understand, you know this isn't botcon TC. Anyone buying botcon TC will know it's not (going on the thought that botcon collectors have actually seen the figure they want before going out to find it), it's obviously inferior in that it's plain blue and undoubtedly lower grade plastic. Why get annoyed by it, and take shots at others that like it?
You're not the only one who bought botcon Thundercracker man.
Besides, what I could've written would have been a tired argument that has been posted many times before, every time classics TC raises his head. And I'm tired of posting it.
I find it funny you are assuming I'm mad about the money I spent on BotCon Thundercracker. I paid less than $40 for both of mine. It is only you who are assuming that I am mad about the money. I never said anything about the cost, it's just funny that you are the one who keeps bringing up the cost.
I'm upset at knockoffs because they are stealing Hasbro's intellectual property. I also find all the justification for KOs funny too. I'm sorry, but it is stealing. If you can't afford it, you don't get to buy it. Same thing with movie and music torrents, you didn't pay for it, so you don't get to have it.
In this day and age, that's both refreshing and shocking. If that's really why you post the same thing every time, then I can't fault you for it. Even if it does annoy me
wrt City Commander and Defender, man are you missing out. Man oh man.
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