BeastProwl wrote:What does Deathy up there do in the transformers universe? I wanna buy him, but I also want motive...
Filler? Um, nothing that Death's Head appeared in for Transformers UK was filler. At least, not in the sense that the UK stories were telling their own story, of which he was a crucial aspect, separate from the American stories.Wolfman Jake wrote:BeastProwl wrote:What does Deathy up there do in the transformers universe? I wanna buy him, but I also want motive...
Apparently he's from some filler material written only for the original Marvel comics run of Transformers, and THEN only for those published in the United Kingdom. I have no idea why, either.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Rated X wrote:Wrong website !!!
Ryan's gonna be pissed. He said only official Transformers brand products get front paged.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Seibertron wrote:Death's Head is going to be awesome. I've waited since 1987 for a figure of this guy. Can't wait to have him in my hands at long last.
To those of you bitching about Death's Head news coverage ... I grew up, in the US, reading Transformers UK comics when I could get my hands on them at local comic stores in the Detroit area. Death's Head is a much bigger character in the Marvel Transformers Universe than even Circuit Breaker or Blackrock. He certainly made a bigger splash!
If you're not familiar with him or his awesomeness, you're missing out, yes?
Sabrblade wrote:Rated X wrote:Wrong website !!!
Ryan's gonna be pissed. He said only official Transformers brand products get front paged.
Wolfman Jake wrote:Yep, like I said, filler.
It's UK only stories, and yeah...that's just a continuity mess.
Seriously, if you're going to put in Death's Head in your Transformers collection, you might as well throw Spider-Man in there too. And any GI JOE characters you'd like too.
Why were the UK comics padded out with all that additional "content" anyway? Did that happen with any other Marvel books during the 80's when crossing the Atlantic Ocean?
Like Trek said, the only UK stories that have any real conflicts with the U.S. ones are the Earthforce ones, which even Simon Furman acknowledges as a separate continuity. The rest that all came before fit in rather well and, also like Trek pointed out, were of a superior quality to the far more goofier American stories.Wolfman Jake wrote:Yep, like I said, filler.
It's UK only stories, and yeah...that's just a continuity mess.
Not when those were all one- or two-issue guest stars (or in the Joes' case, co-stars exclusive to crossover events), while Death's Head, as Ryan noted, was a major player whose first biggest role was in the Transformers comics before his making the jump over to other Marvel properties and getting his own series.Wolfman Jake wrote:Seriously, if you're going to put in Death's Head in your Transformers collection, you might as well throw Spider-Man in there too. And any GI JOE characters you'd like too.
It was because of the difference in comic release schedules between the US and the UK. In the US, comics came out on a monthly basis, while the UK had them out weekly. Due to the faster schedule in the UK, as well as a demand for more comic content, Marvel UK had little choice but to start churning out their own material in addition to the importation of American issues.Wolfman Jake wrote:Why were the UK comics padded out with all that additional "content" anyway? Did that happen with any other Marvel books during the 80's when crossing the Atlantic Ocean?
Actions speak louder than word, my friend, and thus no amount of praise any of us here can give to the character could really do him justice without one having read the comics he appeared in. His character arc was simply that intriguing to us that we all latched onto the character rather well, so I'd say it'd only be best for you to check out the comics that he showed up in to see for yourself why we find this guy so appealing, yes?Wolfman Jake wrote:Is it really a bit of nostalgia glasses, though, thinking Death's Head was really "badass"? Obviously, I had no exposure to the character or the Marvel comics (US or UK) during G1. The original cartoon was my defacto Transformers fiction. Looking over the comic content with Death's Head now, he really comes off pretty forced and silly to me. I agree with the notion that he is just too super hero-villainy for the more sci-fi tone of Transformers I've come to love.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
For me, when I saw him and read his dialogue for the first time, I couldn't help but hear the late great Tony Jay's voice coming out of his mouth.Wolfman Jake wrote:That "Yes?" schtick isn't helping me like the character. I can appreciate that he's got a little cult following, but he's just not for me. Weird vocal patterns are my bane, especially when in print. I could barely stand to read the tfwiki entry for Death's Head written in homage to his peculiar dialect.
On the flipside, he is a mechanoid, rather than a fleshling.Wolfman Jake wrote:Besides that, he's not a Transformer, and so is of little interest to me personally.
Thing is, unlike other Marvel characters, he started off in the TF comics before switching over to the bigger Marvel stuff. It would feel like if Spike Witwicky left the TF comics and became a mainstream Marvel character.Wolfman Jake wrote:Other characters from the G1 comics I've come to appreciate as part of the Transformers mythos, thanks in part to their introduction and involvement in other Transformers continuities later on. Death's Head just feels like a Marvel guest star to me. Like I said, he fits in about as well with my personal display as Spider-Man or Cobra Commander.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Wolfman Jake wrote:Is it really a bit of nostalgia glasses, though, thinking Death's Head was really "badass"? Obviously, I had no exposure to the character or the Marvel comics (US or UK) during G1. The original cartoon was my defacto Transformers fiction. Looking over the comic content with Death's Head now, he really comes off pretty forced and silly to me. I agree with the notion that he is just too super hero-villainy for the more sci-fi tone of Transformers I've come to love.
Sabrblade wrote:On the flipside, he is a mechanoid, rather than a fleshling.Wolfman Jake wrote:Besides that, he's not a Transformer, and so is of little interest to me personally.
Sabrblade wrote:Thing is, unlike other Marvel characters, he started off in the TF comics before switching over to the bigger Marvel stuff. It would feel like if Spike Witwicky left the TF comics and became a mainstream Marvel character.Wolfman Jake wrote:Other characters from the G1 comics I've come to appreciate as part of the Transformers mythos, thanks in part to their introduction and involvement in other Transformers continuities later on. Death's Head just feels like a Marvel guest star to me. Like I said, he fits in about as well with my personal display as Spider-Man or Cobra Commander.
Come to the think of it, in the comics, Death's Head was probably even more involved in the TFs than Spike was.
Sideshow Sideswipe wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Is it really a bit of nostalgia glasses, though, thinking Death's Head was really "badass"? Obviously, I had no exposure to the character or the Marvel comics (US or UK) during G1. The original cartoon was my defacto Transformers fiction. Looking over the comic content with Death's Head now, he really comes off pretty forced and silly to me. I agree with the notion that he is just too super hero-villainy for the more sci-fi tone of Transformers I've come to love.
So you have no exposure to Death's Head but you're confident in saying based on your no exposure at all, that Death's Head wasn't BADASS? If you read some of the comics with him, he really was quite badass, took a licking and kept on ticking (and time travelling too)
I was the opposite I guess, I never really got into superhero comics when I was little, so I never picked up him being super villianesque, It just struck me as cool that he was a robot bounty hunter, and the only other bounty hunter I knew was Boba Fett, so I instantly thought him badass.
Indeed. Taking this into account is precisely why I carefully chose to use the word "feel" instead of my original choice of "be", for that wouldn't be correct to say, but it would still have the "feeling" of such without technically "being" such.Wolfman Jake wrote:Well, technically Death's Head did start off with a one-page appearance in a non-Transformers Marvel book, just before his introduction in the UK G1 comics, for the very purpose that he'd be Marvel's own character to use as they pleased and NOT a Hasbro "Transforemrs" character.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Indeed. Taking this into account is precisely why I carefully chose to use the word "feel" instead of my original choice of "be", for that wouldn't be correct to say, but it would still have the "feeling" of such without technically "being" such.Wolfman Jake wrote:Well, technically Death's Head did start off with a one-page appearance in a non-Transformers Marvel book, just before his introduction in the UK G1 comics, for the very purpose that he'd be Marvel's own character to use as they pleased and NOT a Hasbro "Transforemrs" character.
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