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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Postby Duke of Luns » Tue May 05, 2015 8:38 am

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Duke, F.R.I.D.A.Y., in the comics, was designed by Tony so he wouldn't have to hire another intern/secretary. She is simply called "Friday" as a reference to "His Girl Friday."

In the film, F.R.I.D.A.Y. is one of apparently several replacement AIs for. Tony to put into the armor. I'm not sure what F.R.I.D.A.Y. Actually stands for, but I assume it's Female Robot In De Armor, Yay!


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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Postby Rodimus Prime » Tue May 05, 2015 9:48 am

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SKYWARPED_128 wrote:While it was decent story-wise, it just lacked that "something" that gave the previous 2 movies that feel of an Iron Man movie. That missing "something" was probably Jon Favreau.
To me it was a workable villain that was missing. I mean, I was with it up until they revealed Ben Kingsley's character to be nothing more than a dupe. Had he really been The Mandarin, it would have been much better. The story probably would have had a different 2nd half as well. I actually like Guy Pearce, but that just didn't work. I did think it was pretty cool when Pepper put on the armor to save Tony when his mansion was getting obliterated, but then she got The Mandarin's powers as well? WTF?
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Postby Shadowman » Tue May 05, 2015 1:55 pm

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SKYWARPED_128 wrote:While it was decent story-wise, it just lacked that "something" that gave the previous 2 movies that feel of an Iron Man movie. That missing "something" was probably Jon Favreau.
To me it was a workable villain that was missing. I mean, I was with it up until they revealed Ben Kingsley's character to be nothing more than a dupe. Had he really been The Mandarin, it would have been much better. The story probably would have had a different 2nd half as well. I actually like Guy Pearce, but that just didn't work. I did think it was pretty cool when Pepper put on the armor to save Tony when his mansion was getting obliterated, but then she got The Mandarin's powers as well? WTF?


According to the (very canon!) Marvel One-Shots, neither Kingsley nor Pearce were the Mandarin. The real Mandarin is still out there, as much of a threat as he is in the comics, and very unhappy AIM stole his name...
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Postby Rodimus Prime » Tue May 05, 2015 2:04 pm

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SKYWARPED_128 wrote:While it was decent story-wise, it just lacked that "something" that gave the previous 2 movies that feel of an Iron Man movie. That missing "something" was probably Jon Favreau.
To me it was a workable villain that was missing. I mean, I was with it up until they revealed Ben Kingsley's character to be nothing more than a dupe. Had he really been The Mandarin, it would have been much better. The story probably would have had a different 2nd half as well. I actually like Guy Pearce, but that just didn't work. I did think it was pretty cool when Pepper put on the armor to save Tony when his mansion was getting obliterated, but then she got The Mandarin's powers as well? WTF?


According to the (very canon!) Marvel One-Shots, neither Kingsley nor Pearce were the Mandarin. The real Mandarin is still out there, as much of a threat as he is in the comics, and very unhappy AIM stole his name...
Well, that just makes it even worse to me.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Tue May 05, 2015 7:46 pm

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SKYWARPED_128 wrote:While it was decent story-wise, it just lacked that "something" that gave the previous 2 movies that feel of an Iron Man movie. That missing "something" was probably Jon Favreau.
To me it was a workable villain that was missing. I mean, I was with it up until they revealed Ben Kingsley's character to be nothing more than a dupe. Had he really been The Mandarin, it would have been much better. The story probably would have had a different 2nd half as well. I actually like Guy Pearce, but that just didn't work. I did think it was pretty cool when Pepper put on the armor to save Tony when his mansion was getting obliterated, but then she got The Mandarin's powers as well? WTF?


Yeah, that kinda bugged me too. To make matters worse, Kingsley sort of overdid is with the comedy thing. Granted, the character's a doped up has-been theater ham, I just kept thinking, "this is the Mandarin?"

Then again, seeing as it's a joint venture with the Chinese, making the main villain in the movie of Chinese descent might not go over too well with investors. Kind of like how GM and various other sponsors in the TF franchise insist that their cars are depicted as mostly good guys, and that they all look showroom shiny, despite the fact that the bot modes are all battered up.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Tue May 05, 2015 9:39 pm

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Just watched Age of Ultron for the third time. It doesn't lose luster after multiple viewings!

I stand by my original assessment of the opening sequence, which I feel needed more of a lead in or some ki d of briefing. And aside from a few lines or pieces of dialog that I would have put differently, I have like, zero issues with it.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Postby duragrip » Wed May 06, 2015 1:14 am

The teaser at the end of the Age of Ultronhas Thanos putting on a gauntlet.
The Incredible Hulk does not need a gauntlet. The Hulk does not need any special weapons. That makes me think Thanos is weak, like the Hulk can tear him apart with his bare hands. I think Ultron was way more powerful than Thanos will ever be.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Postby Va'al » Wed May 06, 2015 1:53 am

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Postby Burn » Wed May 06, 2015 2:29 am

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Postby Shadowman » Wed May 06, 2015 3:47 am

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It hasn't even been a full week, not everyone has seen it yet, myself included.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Postby Burn » Wed May 06, 2015 4:20 am

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It hasn't even been a full week, not everyone has seen it yet, myself included.


Well then, don't read this thread. :D

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Postby Shadowman » Wed May 06, 2015 4:33 am

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Shadowman wrote:
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Forum Admin says spoiler tags are no longer necessary. [-(


It hasn't even been a full week, not everyone has seen it yet, myself included.


Well then, don't read this thread. :D

And if you feel the need to continue the discussion regarding this "issue", feel free to create a discussion thread about it so as to not clutter up this thread. That's the ruling of the Forum Admin, that's how it's going to be.


Or maybe take the .5 seconds to apply the spoiler tags instead of being an inconsiderate douche. This thread is clearly here for more than just Age of Ultron, someone might come in here to talk about Daredevil and end up with a major spoiler for a movie they haven't seen yet.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Postby Ironhidensh » Wed May 06, 2015 6:21 am

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Wed May 06, 2015 10:02 am

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duragrip wrote:The teaser at the end of the Age of Ultronhas Thanos putting on a gauntlet.
The Incredible Hulk does not need a gauntlet. The Hulk does not need any special weapons. That makes me think Thanos is weak, like the Hulk can tear him apart with his bare hands. I think Ultron was way more powerful than Thanos will ever be.

Thanos is probably the most powerful being in existence. The Gauntlet is merely a way for Thanos to hold all six Infinity Gems at once without having to juggle them. Thanos is gonna pwn your Hulk's lame ass so hard it'll cure Banner of his Gamma radiation. You think Ultron was powerful? He doesn't need two whole Avengers films to kick ass.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Postby duragrip » Wed May 06, 2015 10:11 am

The Hulk doesn't need Infinity Gems to kick ass. Thanos does. He's nothing without them. Ultron was more powerful than Thanos.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Postby Madeus Prime » Wed May 06, 2015 10:16 am

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duragrip wrote:The teaser at the end of the Age of Ultronhas Thanos putting on a gauntlet.
The Incredible Hulk does not need a gauntlet. The Hulk does not need any special weapons. That makes me think Thanos is weak, like the Hulk can tear him apart with his bare hands. I think Ultron was way more powerful than Thanos will ever be.

I am going to state the obvious, Hulk is one of the more powerful heroes in Marvel, but he's going to be shredded against Thanos. Hulk has what? Super strength and durability? Those traits are frankly just bland and boring. The infinity gauntlet allows Thanos to use ALL the stones at once. If you can actually remember what those stones can do, then together Hulk won't last a minute.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Postby duragrip » Wed May 06, 2015 10:21 am

Take the Infinity Gems out of the equation, and Thanos will be running scared against the Hulk. Thanos needs an army. The Hulk is more powerful than an entire army. Ronin powered by the Infinity Gem would have killed Thanos, same with Ultron. Because both of them knew that without the Infinity Gems Thanos is nothing.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Wed May 06, 2015 10:39 am

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Take the gems away and Thanos still wins. Hulk has super strength sure, but Thanos has super strength times infinity. And sure, Ronan was able to wield a single gem, but Thanos can control ALL of them, AT HE SAME TIME.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Postby duragrip » Wed May 06, 2015 10:42 am

No one is stronger than the Incredible Hulk.

Galactic would eat Thanos like a grain of salt.

Thanos is a weak old grandpa.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Wed May 06, 2015 10:55 am

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Keep in mind, Namor the effing Sub Mariner is among the heroes who have beaten the Hulk.

Relevant to the MCU, Iron Man in Hulkbuster armor literally just defeated Hulk in a one-on-one fight right before your eyes in Age of Ultron. If Hulkbuster can beat the Hulk, Thanos sure as hell can.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Postby duragrip » Wed May 06, 2015 2:34 pm

The Hulk has unlimited strength, power, durability, and size based upon how angry he is.

Those times he's been defeated he just was not mad enough.

Nick Fury would just have to shoot and kill Black Widow, Ironman project that image onto Thanos, and the Hulk would rip Thanos to shreds and crush all the Infinity Gems with his bare hands. Then he'd go after Galactus and kill him.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Postby Burn » Wed May 06, 2015 3:00 pm

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You're basing your argument on the comic versions. This is the MCU. Things are different.

And again, why the **** are we still using spoiler tags? THEY ARE NOT NECESSARY.
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Wed May 06, 2015 3:06 pm

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Burn wrote:You're basing your argument on the comic versions. This is the MCU. Things are different.

Exactly, which is why, when considering Iron Man defeated Hulk in the film, my argument has the most base and fact. And likelyhood. THANOS FTW.
And again, why the **** are we still using spoiler tags? THEY ARE NOT NECESSARY.

I'm waiting until the movie has been out for a week (in the US), so once Friday rolls around all bets are off. But not everybody is as lucky to have seen it three times as I am. So as long as it's not hurting anyone, why is it such a big deal?
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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Postby Ironhidensh » Wed May 06, 2015 3:23 pm

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Burn wrote:You're basing your argument on the comic versions. This is the MCU. Things are different.

Exactly, which is why, when considering Iron Man defeated Hulk in the film, my argument has the most base and fact. And likelyhood. THANOS FTW.
And again, why the **** are we still using spoiler tags? THEY ARE NOT NECESSARY.

I'm waiting until the movie has been out for a week (in the US), so once Friday rolls around all bets are off. But not everybody is as lucky to have seen it three times as I am. So as long as it's not hurting anyone, why is it such a big deal?

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Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Wed May 06, 2015 3:29 pm

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Burn wrote:You're basing your argument on the comic versions. This is the MCU. Things are different.

Exactly, which is why, when considering Iron Man defeated Hulk in the film, my argument has the most base and fact. And likelyhood. THANOS FTW.
And again, why the **** are we still using spoiler tags? THEY ARE NOT NECESSARY.

I'm waiting until the movie has been out for a week (in the US), so once Friday rolls around all bets are off. But not everybody is as lucky to have seen it three times as I am. So as long as it's not hurting anyone, why is it such a big deal?

Because it's annoying as hell.

Your face is annoying as hell. But fine! I'll stop! Goodness. ;)
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