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Nemesis Maximo wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Well loki had the sceptre while the cube was on earth, so I always had the thought they were separate.

Oh. My. God. That thought never even occured to me! Now Shadowman's gonna call me out on a small detail that I should've noticed!

That's actually something that bugged me in the first movie; Loki's scepter was powered by the Tesseract...but it was powered up before he got anywhere near it. Now it makes sense.

I was recently at a comic store, and was talking with a few fellow geeks, one of them pointed out that the first letters of the names of the items the Infinity gems have been hidden in ,so far, seem to spell out the name of Thanos.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I was recently at a comic store, and was talking with a few fellow geeks, one of them pointed out that the first letters of the names of the items the Infinity gems have been hidden in ,so far, seem to spell out the name of Thanos.

And props for them for not letting the first letter of Mind Gem get in their way.

EDIT: Ah, items it's hidden in, yeah. I'm a bit pressed for time so I can't exactly rebut that one, but I'm just going to chalk it up to coincidence.

Shadowman wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I was recently at a comic store, and was talking with a few fellow geeks, one of them pointed out that the first letters of the names of the items the Infinity gems have been hidden in ,so far, seem to spell out the name of Thanos.

And props for them for not letting the first letter of Mind Gem get in their way.

EDIT: Ah, items it's hidden in, yeah. I'm a bit pressed for time so I can't exactly rebut that one, but I'm just going to chalk it up to coincidence.

4 out of 6 seems to be a big coincidence

I'm not sure if they planed it from day one, but my quess its something they ran with after the first Avengers film.
so far they are only missing 2 letters in the name Thanos...........and there are 2 gems left hidden somewhere.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I was recently at a comic store, and was talking with a few fellow geeks, one of them pointed out that the first letters of the names of the items the Infinity gems have been hidden in ,so far, seem to spell out the name of Thanos.

And props for them for not letting the first letter of Mind Gem get in their way.

EDIT: Ah, items it's hidden in, yeah. I'm a bit pressed for time so I can't exactly rebut that one, but I'm just going to chalk it up to coincidence.

4 out of 6 seems to be a big coincidence

I'm not sure if they planed it from day one, but my quess its something they ran with after the first Avengers film.
so far they are only missing 2 letters in the name Thanos...........and there are 2 gems left hidden somewhere.

That's actually a very normal-sized coincidence. Especially since one of the items is Loki's scepter, and the item housing the Power gem is never really named.

Shadowman wrote:That's actually a very normal-sized coincidence. Especially since one of the items is Loki's scepter, and the item housing the Power gem is never really named.

4 out of 6 is a "very normal-sized coincidence" to you?
when the total is 6
2 out of 6 is weird
3 out of 6 is a coincidence
4 out of 6 suggest a pattern.

and yes one of the items was contained in a Scepter
S is the last letter in the name Thanos.

now, I'll admit to being a bit confused as to which gem is which in comparison to their comic names.
but so far in the films we have seen 4 gems.
and each was contained in something that was named.

the Tesseract ,Aether ,the Orb and the Scepter

Tony Stark.

Coincidence.

Shadowman wrote:Tony Stark.

Coincidence.

pathetic

once upon a time you could must a fair counter argument.

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Shadowman wrote:Tony Stark.

Coincidence.

pathetic

once upon a time you could must a fair counter argument.

I can't really counter an argument if you haven't made one. All you're doing is grasping at straws and acting as if it has some kind of significance.

Look, as much as I want to believe that one of the gems will be called "The Nether" and the other to be called "The Hexagon", until the next Infinity Gem is revealed to have another corresponding letter, I'm calling it a coincidence.

Let's look at it like this:
T=Tessaract:
H=
A=Aether BUT it is also the called Ether, without the "A" sound. Possible wrench.
N=
O=Orb Not really a name for something; unlike the previous two, it's just called an orb.
S=Scepter You can't really tell me you don't think this one is a bit of a stretch.

Shadowman wrote:

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:

Shadowman wrote:Tony Stark.

Coincidence.

pathetic

once upon a time you could must a fair counter argument.

I can't really counter an argument if you haven't made one. All you're doing is grasping at straws and acting as if it has some kind of significance.

Im not talking about the stone issue

the idea that 4 out of 6 as a "normal-sized coincidence' is laughable

as to the nameing of the storage units, I just thought it was an interesting point for conversation.

It's a theory but I agree that it's fan made than anything intended especially if marvel pull a surprise out of the bag and reveal a seventh stone as used in some other media. Heck they could even go the route of the Phantom movie and make the seventh the one to control them all (i forget what the Ego gem actually does).

Has it been confirmed which gem the æther is? I read somewhere that it was reality gem, with the one from GotG being power and the tesseract one being space.

Well, I actually managed to squeeze out some time and saw Ultron last night. I was a great movie, and I really enjoyed it, don't get me wrong, but I was a little disappointed. I dunno if I can say more yet. I really need to see it again, without the "oh my god this is awesome" vibe overriding my senses, and that will be awhile.

I finally have few moments to watch Famous Netflix Daredevil series... And I have kinda mixed feelings about this. It is nice that we have a toned down, more realistic series in MCU. But each episode is suprisgly long (50 + minutes), and there isn't as much action as you would expect. Also, I'm not sure did giving Daredevil his "world on fire" vision was a good idea. I understand that there is no room to explain a nature of Matt Murdoc's perception, but giving him acces to absurdaly detailed mental vision kinda make his blindness much less of a drawback. Even if, it still a fun show, I just hope that leater in the season there will be more action.

Abour Avengers" age of Ultron I agree that it's a good idea to watch again, since after first round you propably could'nt catch all easter eggs or understand all references. Also, rewatchability is one of a few obligatory aspects of good movie.

I can't wait to see new Captain America, since Iron Man will be in it. I wonder did CA 3 will be able to beast Batman v Superman.

Daredevil was good. If anything though it was more of a show about The Kingpin.

The dark tone was a nice change, and yeah, translating his "vision" from the comics to the screen was going to be a challenge.

I do agree with the episode lengths. It was a bloody marathon, and that was my first major Netflix binge.

Oh and CA3 against Batman vs Superman? Not much of a challenge, CA3 will win easily.

Burn wrote:Daredevil was good. If anything though it was more of a show about The Kingpin.

The dark tone was a nice change, and yeah, translating his "vision" from the comics to the screen was going to be a challenge.

Wasn't there only one shot of his "world on fire" point of view? And it didn't look all that detailed to me, kind of like Predator vision, and how is that much different than what was portrayed in the 2003 film?

And then there's the Kingpin, oh yes the Kingpin. Most of my knowledge of his character only comes from his Spider-Man: The Animated Series representation, so whether his portrayal is truly accurate or not I don't know. However, I really, really enjoyed his character. His awkward and quiet demeanor was a novel counter to his bits of powerful rage. A very good "villain" I would not dare want to cross.

Oh, and Leland Owlsly is fantastic too. I think it's because he's more or less just an elderly guy but he takes down Daredevil with his taser and drives away like it's nothing, has a very entitled attitude that is fun to watch, is not afraid of the Kingpin in the least. Even at the end of the series he's like "well, we're parting ways, but you dare not lay a hand on me cause if you do you'll empire will fall like so many Jenga pieces". Granted Kingpin still kills him, but Owlsly goes down tasering and for a few seconds almost looks like he'll get away. Comicsalliance noted that his character in the comics has no son but the TV show makes several references to one. Perhaps in Season 2 we'll get a true Owl villain? Oh please be like father like son....

Duke of Luns wrote:

Burn wrote:Daredevil was good. If anything though it was more of a show about The Kingpin.

The dark tone was a nice change, and yeah, translating his "vision" from the comics to the screen was going to be a challenge.

Wasn't there only one shot of his "world on fire" point of view? And it didn't look all that detailed to me, kind of like Predator vision, and how is that much different than what was portrayed in the 2003 film?
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In 2003 movie Daredvil only "saw" bluring lines of light amond complete dark, representing shapes of objects. This could beign explained as visualisation of his feeling the shapes due to his radar sense. In Netflix series, his "world of fire" vision seems to be some kind of seeing the world. It's not as detailed as eyesight, but it's still better than world in dark. And isn't seeing world in dark part of Daredevil uniqness?

As i remember in Spider-Man Animated series, Daredevil also "saw" the world in red, I quess that in 90's TV, without as advanced CGI as we have todat. It's to hard to desribe how Matt's senses working, so they are giving him ability to "see", so he wan't be too alienated from typical viewer. But it's still not excuse to create story about blind superhero, and later tell us that he sees world on fire.

About Captain 3 vs Batman v Superman: I don't know, both Captain America Movie were kinda overshadowed by Avengers and Avengers: AOU. And despite initial anger, a lot of people seemed to have high hopes about new a DC movie now. Let's just say that DCU seems to have element of suprise on their side.

Not sure about superman vs batman, I think it's going to be a question of tone with the DC movies going with dark and gritty with marvel going opposite (not that they aren't having dark moments)

But that's talk for a different thread . plus I want to see ant man first

Speaking of Cap 3, I read on Cinemablend that William Hurt will reprise the character of General Ross. I'm taking it with a grain of salt, but I'm all for anything to strengthen the 2008 Hulk film's ties to the greater MCU.

The way the film is shaping up, it feels to me like more of a "Marvel Civil War" than a Cap film proper.

Funnily enough my niece said the same thing when we talked about how the new avengers were in it. I'm all for cap's version of events but it would be funny if they released a cut of the film showing starks perspective

I have faith in the Russo Bros that they'll be able to show both sides to the argument without painting Stark as the bad guy. Especially since, in the films, I feel like Cap can be a bit of an ass when it comes to things he doesn't like, more so than in the comics IMO.

TurboMMaster wrote:I finally have few moments to watch Famous Netflix Daredevil series... And I have kinda mixed feelings about this. It is nice that we have a toned down, more realistic series in MCU. But each episode is suprisgly long (50 + minutes), and there isn't as much action as you would expect. Also, I'm not sure did giving Daredevil his "world on fire" vision was a good idea. I understand that there is no room to explain a nature of Matt Murdoc's perception, but giving him acces to absurdaly detailed mental vision kinda make his blindness much less of a drawback. Even if, it still a fun show, I just hope that leater in the season there will be more action.

Except "world on fire" isn't the same as his sonar vision from the movie. "World on fire" is how he sees things with just his eyes, and it's clearly very limited. He actually explains his powers as more like hyper-awareness.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:The way the film is shaping up, it feels to me like more of a "Marvel Civil War" than a Cap film proper.

Well it's not called "Captain America:Civil War" for nothing.

I actually think the Captain America movies are the best of the Marvel bunch. Them and Guardians.

Burn wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:The way the film is shaping up, it feels to me like more of a "Marvel Civil War" than a Cap film proper.

Well it's not called "Captain America:Civil War" for nothing.

I'm not sure you understood what I meant. I mean to say that I feel as though Kevin Feige and the rest of the execs plus the Russo Bros wanted to make a film portraying the events of the Civil War comic in the MCU, but didn't want to call it Avengers: Civil War or even simply Civil War.. So somewhere along the line they decided, appropriately, that Cap and Tony Stark are the most important names associated with Civil War; but since Iron Man already has three films in the franchise, and since the general populace was made so aware of the event because of the assassination of Cap in the comics at the time, that making it Captain America 3 makes the most sense. EVEN IF it may not focus so much on Cap as opposed to the other characters.