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kick a*%* f*^%&^ rocks if i could i dance i can do without the rap but one thing i like alot is that linkin park is apart of it to i have everyone there albums go goo gooo dolls havnt heard there song though im going to put this as my ring tone one cell phone

King Grimrob wrote:..its only an album. its only an album. its only an album.
sell to the MTV generation. Sell to the MTV generation.
the real score sounds impressive!

Hah! That reminds me of that Hostel II tv spot they keep showing, where the narrator keeps saying "it's only a movie."

The questions is, which of these is scarier?

Venomous Prime wrote:It will sell.

Why? Because these bands are popular.

Oh, yeah, i guess people are stupid enough to buy anything corperate america tells them is cool. Yeah, i see this thing flying off the shelvs!!!
Most mainsteream americans have never heard of any of these bands, with the exception of like 3, period. Besides TF collectors, and the 6 people that like any of these no name bands, who's going to buy this pile of fecies?

Phenotype wrote:

skeletal13 wrote:Linkin Park: the attempted "metal" Backstreet Boys. Do people still listen to these guys?

Apparently not, their new album only sold 2 million copies so far. /sarcasm

Oasis's "Be Here Now" was considered a failure, and it sold 7 million plus in it's first week, no less. 2 million is very poor to those standards.

Y'know, times like these...a bunch of independent artists will get together and try to release an 'unofficial' tribute album, reflecting a variety of styles, from thrashcore to underground hip-hop to experimental electronica. It might not even directly relate to the movie, as many of the artists would instead offer a tribute to the Transformers they experienced as kids, and yet would somehow still fit as a companion to the new Movie score, if balanced out right.

Of course, while I'm dreaming, world peace and a G1 Wheeljack MISB would be nice...

As for the theme itself: there's music, and then there's the music industry. Say, Del the Funkee Homosapien laying down some funny but well-spoken rhymes about the Transformers, or Pelican is doing a cohesive but unique post-metal version of the original movie score? Music. A band allegedly changing its sound to match the survey results from the test audiences, correlated to contemporary buying trends in alternative music across the United States, then modified in production to maintain the most middle-ground balance of sound possible to appeal to the lowest common denominator? Well, that's the music industry, and as the movie is very much steeped in the rest of the entertainment industry...guess which one will be the final result.

Kranix-76 wrote:Y'know, times like these...a bunch of independent artists will get together and try to release an 'unofficial' tribute album, reflecting a variety of styles, from thrashcore to underground hip-hop to experimental electronica. It might not even directly relate to the movie, as many of the artists would instead offer a tribute to the Transformers they experienced as kids, and yet would somehow still fit as a companion to the new Movie score, if balanced out right.

Of course, while I'm dreaming, world peace and a G1 Wheeljack MISB would be nice...

As for the theme itself: there's music, and then there's the music industry. Say, Del the Funkee Homosapien laying down some funny but well-spoken rhymes about the Transformers, or Pelican is doing a cohesive but unique post-metal version of the original movie score? Music. A band allegedly changing its sound to match the survey results from the test audiences, correlated to contemporary buying trends in alternative music across the United States, then modified in production to maintain the most middle-ground balance of sound possible to appeal to the lowest common denominator? Well, that's the music industry, and as the movie is very much steeped in the rest of the entertainment industry...guess which one will be the final result.

Sadly, I do find this to be true as well. I may not like it, but it is the shape of the music and entertainment industries today. To be honest I expected a soundtrack like this (but with maybe a little Stan Bush or other classic stuff like that thrown in here or there for the fans). Though, I never expected such a terrible attempt at a theme. Even though I don't like most current bands, I was hoping we could at least get a half decent version of it.

Kranix-76 wrote:Y'know, times like these...a bunch of independent artists will get together and try to release an 'unofficial' tribute album, reflecting a variety of styles, from thrashcore to underground hip-hop to experimental electronica. It might not even directly relate to the movie, as many of the artists would instead offer a tribute to the Transformers they experienced as kids, and yet would somehow still fit as a companion to the new Movie score, if balanced out right.

Of course, while I'm dreaming, world peace and a G1 Wheeljack MISB would be nice...

As for the theme itself: there's music, and then there's the music industry. Say, Del the Funkee Homosapien laying down some funny but well-spoken rhymes about the Transformers, or Pelican is doing a cohesive but unique post-metal version of the original movie score? Music. A band allegedly changing its sound to match the survey results from the test audiences, correlated to contemporary buying trends in alternative music across the United States, then modified in production to maintain the most middle-ground balance of sound possible to appeal to the lowest common denominator? Well, that's the music industry, and as the movie is very much steeped in the rest of the entertainment industry...guess which one will be the final result.

Yeah, unforunately, there isn't room for real art in most forms of entertainment anymore. But, we've still got comicbooks!!!!! I doubt market research wankers will ever get to take that one( i hope).

Hggnnn...yeah. Score please. I'll make my own "music inspired by" soundtrack.

I LOVED IT, I HAVE IT ON REPEAT ON MY WINAMP. HEHE LOL. MY ONLY QUESTION IS WILL IT BE PLAYED AT THE BEGINNING OF THE FILM OR AT THE END OF IT ? STILL THIS SONG IS THAT DAMN GOOD. IF YOU CAN LOOK PAST THE RAP A LIL IT IS STILL GOOD TO LISTEN TO.

After all the tolerance I've shown for the designs, this might be the straw that breaks my back. This song is terrible. BAD BAD WRONG WRONG GAAAAHHHHH!!!!

The tune is actually enjoyable - but the lyrics are un-inspired, and they are not Linkin' Park no matter how hard they try. And the namecall? I think a part of my soul shriveled and died.

I was really hoping for an orchastrated soundtrack with this. I knew the soundtrack would not appeal to me if it went into the popular music area. Why is this? I grew up listening to the original movie's soundtrack. It practically defined my taste in music. I don't know if Hasbro's people were trying to do the exact same thing with that soundtrack that the current crew is trying to do with this one (appeal to the lowest common demoninator), but somehow the 80s crew managed to **** out a golden egg.

I have not once, in my entire life latched onto a current band. I'm 19, so I grew up after the original came out. I will listen to pretty much any 80s pop or rock that came out pre-grunge, but I just don't enjoy very much after that. It has no harmonies, futuristic sound, or whatever else it was about the original soundtrack that entranced me as a kid. I still listen to it fairly often, and I've never gotten tired of it. I've also picked up on pretty much everything that was popular at the time. I enjoy a lot of folk/world music, too, so it's not like 80s rock is the only stuff I like.

Anyway, this new soundtrack sounds to me like nasaly 90s skateboarder music. I actually liked that theme, apart from the vocals. When that synthesiser started, I saw a glimmer of hope, followed by the guitar coming in, which seemed pretty fitting to me. Then, the emo-nasal-rap killed it. I can't listen to it.

So, did all the bands on the original movie's soundtrack occupy the same status as these bands? Were they all flash-in-the-pan pop groups. Why do they sound so much better? I can see Stan Bush sounding silly to someone who isn't fully engrosed in original, but some of the heavier stuff on there is pretty good. Twenty years from now, will there be some kid who thinks this new album is the definition of awesome?

I just hope they don't play this stuff during the movie. If it was me writing the soundtrack, I would have gotten some good guitarist together, along with the orchastra, and just said "**** the vocals." The style of singing that is popular today is mostly whiney-nasaly emo stuff, which wouldn't accompany anything well, other than an adaptation of Catcher in the Rye.

Duo Prime wrote:Oh, yeah, i guess people are stupid enough to buy anything corperate america tells them is cool. Yeah, i see this thing flying off the shelvs!!!
Most mainsteream americans have never heard of any of these bands, with the exception of like 3, period. Besides TF collectors, and the 6 people that like any of these no name bands, who's going to buy this pile of fecies?

Hate to tell you this buddy, but most of these bands are really popular. Mainstream America does know who they are.

The only two bands I don't think people will know are Idiot Pilot and Julien-K

The rest of those bands are quite popular.

And if you don't think so then you obviously don't pay attention to the music world at all.

So, once again, I state, this album will sell.

PUMPKINS!!!!!!!!!!

OMFG

this song sucks so much! I couldve done a much better job than this amateur dookie. The lyrics by the way, who wrote them...a 3 year old??

With the opening beats, I thought 'Hmm. This is alrite.' Then the ev-er sl-ow si-ng-in-g started and I thought 'Sounds like they want to be Linkin Park'. Then it went on and with the roll call, I thought '*Thoughts bleeped for content*'. That was a bad theme. And it's not because of the rap. Reminds me of Cybertron, only worse because at least that was enjoyable if you removed the talking.
But this is comming straight off my hard drive. Now I need to play Lion's version to restore my faith in good tf themes.

Fortunatly, this will only be played in the end credits. Songs like this are only ever played in the end credits.

KSC wrote:There it is...I don't like it!

eh it's okay until 00:53...ugh that rollcall though is horrible.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5817

edit: You guys can merge this into the Soundtrack cover thread. I didn't see that till after I posted.

It stinks and I don't like it.

The first soundtrack was better.....

decepticonjon wrote:that was painful.
whoever mutemath is.. they should be drug out in the street and shot.

Agreed.

It's like, "Gee... thanks for rapping over top the music and doing a roll call to make me feel embarrassed for listening to it".

Totally unecessary garbage ruining an otherwise ok instrumental.
Also, needs a robotic voice saying "Transformers", not some Angsty McAngsterpants band member whining into a voice oscillator.

FAIL.

FAIL.

FAIL.

yea, the roll call is completely unneccessary.. unless is optimus doing it, in a somewhat reasonable fassion.

Kingshand wrote:meh; I had hoped it'd have an orchestrated score and not a lump of crappy bands with maybe one or two good songs on the whole album.

You and me both man.

Mutemath is very stale.

Transformers, more then meets the eye
Autobots wage their battle to be won against the evil forcs of the Decepticons.
The Transformers, robots in disguise
Transformers, more then meets the eye
Transformers

Yeah, that's the old theme.

This new one is sooooo unoriginal

Hello =)

Just joined the Seibertron forums after reading the news everyday for so long... so here's my first post.

As a HUGE Mutemath fan, as well as EVEN HUGER TRANSFORMERS fan, I feel I need to interject into this conversation. First, Mutemath is NOTHING like Linkin Park. They don't remotely sound like or attempt to sound like Linkin Park. They are a completely different kind of band.

To prove this, here is the link to their myspace page:
http://www.myspace.com/mutemath/
There you can listen to their music.

In addition, the song we were given via Sector 7 was a dupe. If you go to that myspace page now, you'll see they've included a clip of the TF theme they made for the film. CLEARLY, not the same one. Very much a nice homage to the original theme music IMO =)

Cheers, enjoy!

I was convinced MuteMath was a cover name for Linkin Park until I googled Mutemath and found their Myspace. Now listen to the "Transformers Theme" on their Myspace. It's totally different than the one from Sector Seven. Now I'm convinced the one we've heard has to be Linkin Park.

http://www.myspace.com/mutemath

OptimusIsHot wrote:I was convinced MuteMath was a cover name for Linkin Park until I googled Mutemath and found their Myspace. Now listen to the "Transformers Theme" on their Myspace. It's totally different than the one from Sector Seven. Now I'm convinced the one we've heard has to be Linkin Park.

http://www.myspace.com/mutemath

Good-ness, that sounds much much much much better. I thought Mute math a a different sound than that, but seeing as how I'm not a fan, I wouldn't know. Thank God, because that rapping one was just terrible.

miryclay wrote:Shrug

Sounds like a typical end credits rolling kind of fare. At least the traditional riff is still intact.

If it were up to me, as soon as that song finished, they'ed play the outro music from the 1st and 2nd season of the G1 cartoon, followed by the old movie theme. (I mean, hardly anyone would be left in the theatre save the folks paid to clean it at that point, why not just go ahead and end on a geek note)

That used to be my job, I used to have to listen to crappy end credi songs all day. It was horrible!

As for this theme; I downloaded, I listened, I deleted. Enough said.

That Real Mutemath one is better much better.