

Neko wrote:I went into this knowing full well what I was gonna see. I left my brain at home and was able to enjoy the movie for what it was.
same138 wrote:And let's face it (heresy coming up, G1 diehards look away now) the G1 cartoons aren't really all that.
SonicWave wrote:same138 wrote:And let's face it (heresy coming up, G1 diehards look away now) the G1 cartoons aren't really all that.
Preach it brother, I wanted to say something but feared the wrath of the Geewunners.
SonicWave wrote:You mean, I don't gotta obey the geewunners? *humps same138's leg*.
same138 wrote:SonicWave wrote:You mean, I don't gotta obey the geewunners? *humps same138's leg*.
Ayuh! And the toys ain't that great either. Especially not for the price you have to pay for them these days. And while I'm on that subject... ROTF Devvy's Balls of Steel not to your G1 taste? Then what the feck is that between your beloved G1 Megs's Legs?
Sunblast wrote:am i the only one who kind of think the new 'no nonsense' prime was pretty cool? sure, i love and respect the old prime who would never take a life if he could avoid it, but these films ARE NOT G1. The decepticons dont just go back to their base the second they get beaten and everyones happy. Its a war, what else would they have done with demolisher? put him in jail?
Evolution Prime wrote:Well I may be in the minority here, but that is the side of Optimus Prime I've always wanted to see. He doesn't always have to be Mr. Goody Two Shoes. We are always led to believe that he is an Autobot bada$$ and on the level of Megatron, but rarely ever got to see it. Yeah he could stand toe to toe with him, but just didn't have that killer instinct. We finally get to see that. I have always wanted to see absolutely laying waste to Decepti-scum. Closest we saw that was his enterance in the TF:TM. That forest fight scene was all sorts of win for those of us wanting to see an a$$kicking Prime. We see the darker side of Optimus. It has been long overdue. He shows that you can kick a$$ and be compassionate as well.
Coincidentally, my main HMW character is based off of the darker side of Prime.
same138 wrote:SonicWave wrote:same138 wrote:And let's face it (heresy coming up, G1 diehards look away now) the G1 cartoons aren't really all that.
Preach it brother, I wanted to say something but feared the wrath of the Geewunners.
I fear no-one (except my Bank Manager and my Mother)
-Kanrabat- wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.
Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...
Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
Optimutt wrote:"Autobots wage their battle to destroy the evil of the Decepticons."
They certainly do wage war. The opening scene in Shanghai was impressive. Optimus was relentless, the others solid, but his tactics seemed a little... I don't know... unrelenting. There was no mercy, no attempt at diplomacy, nothing like that. Don't get me wrong. I like Optimus as the take-it-to-them leader. The proactivity he shows, while certainly being Bay's trademark, shows a powerful leader, one willing to do what it takes to win the war. Certainly a good thing for a successful military commander. But good leaders are more than just military strategists, right?
Running contrary to Optimus, we have the Fallen. While on the surface, he's a brutal bastard intent on destroying the sun, there is something deeper there, too. As the Decepticons are given far more screen time than the Autobots, it is only fair that we are given a glimpse of life on Cybertron; and would you believe it, but the Decepticons are developing new life! Interesting. Now, I could speculate on the idea of whether or not the Autobots are able to do such a thing. The point is that it's irrelevant. The Autobots' reinforcements came from space. The Decepticons, while also coming from space, are at being created. It creates an interesting discrepency, doesn't it?
If Primes (and subsequently, Autobots) are the protectors of life, what then are Decepticons? The movie shows them as creators of life. Morally, I'm confused. The Decepticons are evil, aren't they? So why would they try to produce life, and maybe even sacrifice other planets in order to SAVE THIER RACE? Tell me, which isn't heroic? In my eyes, both are heroic. But coupled with Prime's determination to destroy the 'Cons, I can't really tell which is the morally worse group.
If only the Autobots were given some more screen time, then I might not be so insecure about their objective. Ok, sure, Save the Earth, the Humans, etc, but beyond that? They're just a squad of military jocks with nothing better to do than acquisce to the demands of Humans. When given the choice of freedom to live in peace in Shanghai with a group of like bots or being given no other life than that of Fleshling-pawn in a war against members of my own species, I can't help but favor the Decepticons. Is it any wonder, especially considering they got far more character time than the Autobots?
Sadly, I can't help feeling that the way the franchise is going, the Humans will take over. Which is sad. I did not come to this movie to watch Fleshlings. I came to enjoy the conflict between the two races, and maybe even see some of the characters learning something. So far, though, the only characters who are showing any signs of development are Sam, Mikaela, Simmons, and Leo. All I can ask is: What about the Transformers? When will we see them develop some personality?
All in all, the movie impressed upon me an allegiance: In the words of a certain kitty-cat: "Decepticons, forever!" and "Down with Fleshlings!"
Blurrz wrote:Does it really matter what other people think? We have to realize that not everyone is going to enjoy the movie, whether they are a fan or not. Negative opinions shouldn't affect how we perceive the movie. Evenif you completely disagree with fans' opinions that are different from yours, there's really nothing that anyone can do about it as it's not going to change their opinions.
While I agree on many of your points, your stance is a little bit aggressive and not one that's exactly popular. You're asking for a fight, and I'll have none of it.
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