The Energon Pub

[YouFearGalvatron]

So much source material, so many Transformers universes. Who knew they would pull elements from many of this sources, and create yet another, of many, alternate universes for the franchise?

I like milk.
I like orange juice.
But never in the same cup.

Hey, anyone else think it was not very credible that his dad's getting him his first car, but buys it without the dealership even having the title to it?
So, he like gave him $4000 and drove off the lot with a possibly stolen car?!?

I thought the SAME THING while in my theater seat yesterday!!!

No thought in this script...at all.

[Autobot032]

So much source material, so many Transformers universes. Who knew they would pull elements from many of this sources, and create yet another, of many, alternate universes for the franchise?

I like milk.
I like orange juice.
But never in the same cup.

Hey, anyone else think it was not very credible that his dad's getting him his first car, but buys it without the dealership even having the title to it?
So, he like gave him $4000 and drove off the lot with a possibly stolen car?!?

I thought the SAME THING while in my theater seat yesterday!!!

No thought in this script...at all.

Alright, that *IS* a glaring oversight, and it is something that should be corrected, or at least addressed, but if you continue to nitpick it, there will be no movie left. Hell, if you nitpick like this with anything, there'll be nothing left.

Plus, you're going to ruin it for those who did like the movie, the more and more they see stuff like this, the less and less people will want to see it in a positive light.

Granted, the film wasn't the strongest it could've been, so yeah...it easy to pick apart and anyone could fall out of love with it, I grant you that. But beyond a certain point, people are just killing it, for the simple fact they can.

This is why I want a separate thread for positive and negative reviews and let the people make their decision, rather than be bombarded with one, and then other in the next post. It's confusing and it doesn't help people make their decision clearly.

I don't expect everyone to love the movie, I don't expect everyone to hate the movie, all I expect is for people to see it, form their own opinion and then either keep it in that specific thread, or let it die.

As with anything in life, I always use this line of thinking "Yes or no is all I ask. I don't care which one it is, I just finally want a simple, final answer and then I can do what needs to be done. Please, just give me one friggin' answer."

Same thing applies here. Hate it, or love it, just please make a decision and let's move on. *SIGHS*

[YouFearGalvatron]

So much source material, so many Transformers universes. Who knew they would pull elements from many of this sources, and create yet another, of many, alternate universes for the franchise?

I like milk.
I like orange juice.
But never in the same cup.

Hey, anyone else think it was not very credible that his dad's getting him his first car, but buys it without the dealership even having the title to it?
So, he like gave him $4000 and drove off the lot with a possibly stolen car?!?

I thought the SAME THING while in my theater seat yesterday!!!

No thought in this script...at all.

Alright, that *IS* a glaring oversight, and it is something that should be corrected, or at least addressed, but if you continue to nitpick it, there will be no movie left. Hell, if you nitpick like this with anything, there'll be nothing left.

Plus, you're going to ruin it for those who did like the movie, the more and more they see stuff like this, the less and less people will want to see it in a positive light.

Granted, the film wasn't the strongest it could've been, so yeah...it easy to pick apart and anyone could fall out of love with it, I grant you that. But beyond a certain point, people are just killing it, for the simple fact they can.

This is why I want a separate thread for positive and negative reviews and let the people make their decision, rather than be bombarded with one, and then other in the next post. It's confusing and it doesn't help people make their decision clearly.

I don't expect everyone to love the movie, I don't expect everyone to hate the movie, all I expect is for people to see it, form their own opinion and then either keep it in that specific thread, or let it die.

As with anything in life, I always use this line of thinking "Yes or no is all I ask. I don't care which one it is, I just finally want a simple, final answer and then I can do what needs to be done. Please, just give me one friggin' answer."

Same thing applies here. Hate it, or love it, just please make a decision and let's move on. *SIGHS*

Autobot032, I like you. You are cool member on this board, someone that is very mature, unlike many others that will remain unidentified.

But with all due respect man, this is a REVIEWS THREAD.

Giving a "Yes" or a "No" is not a review. A review, is just that: a REVIEW. It goes into the story, special effects, plot, acting, cinnematography, etc.

As you ask, let people DECIDE for THEMSELVES.

hearing reviews does not brainwash anyone to like or love a film. It just gives an opinion of someone who has watched it.

With all things, I HIGHLY reccomend you go SEE THE NEW MOVIE for YOURSELF....then, love it or leave it...make your decision whether you like it or not.

I did NOT like it.

Andto cut a few people off, this has NOTHING to do with it not being a direct homage to all things Genertion 1. I know G1 would not translate very well to live action all along. that is why I would prefer more ANIMATED films based on the TFs, which makes it all an easier sell to the audience.

Again, this is a REVIEW thread.

Now that I think of it...what makes me REALLY angry is that Blackout got next to no screentime, and he was, IMHO the coolest-looking Decepticon!!!

[Depthchargelives]

I went to back-to-back-to-back showings yesterday. The first show was sold out, as was the 4:00...but I was able to get tickets for the 4:00,and it was fun to watch it with a bunch of military personnel who were enjoying the 4th of July before going overseas. There were about 10-15 civilians and the rest of the theatre was military. They seemed to enjoy the movie, loved BB's upgrade to the '08 Camaro, made a positive racket about the Buffalo (Bonecrusher), loved the humor...it made watching it lots of fun. The 6:50 showing had a smaller crowd, but drew small applause at the end...

I enjoyed all 3 showings. The non TF friends I brought with liked it bunches, and talked about seeing it again. I felt that each 'bot, though not highly defined, got their screen time and made it a bit like the G1 cartoon where a bot would be in one scene, and not in the rest of the episode. In a way it reflects the spirit of a G1 show by being about the 'bots (though I may say a bit too much of the human factor) but all in all a treat to see.

Much better than SP3, though cannot attest for Shrek3 or Pirates 3, but would assume it's better. Very fun ride for 2.5 hours.

Would have liked to see/hear Welker as Weaving's performance/Megatron's role was crucial, but the limited #of lines really would not have changed my opinion of the film. Thumbs up and reccomended.

[Supraman]

I watched this movie at the Monday midnight release on a DLP screening.

I have to say, I was completely blown away. It was even better than I had expected. So much, that I saw it twice more during the next 24 hours period (albeit on a normal projection screen).

That said I recognized several cons for the movie:

Cons:

Sector 7 humor. I would have been much more impressed should Sector 7 have conducted themselves (especially Agent Simmons) more seriously. I guess my biggest problem really was with Simmons. He seemed like he belonged in a Spy Kids 3D movie or a Pixar comedy.
Then he was much too ballsy when face to face with Optimus Prime. From the moment he peeked in the peephole of the Witwicky's door it seemed too corny for me. The only time I liked him was when he is directing Bumblebee's capture and does the little "let's roll out of here" motion and yells that he wants him ready for transport (or something like that). That was the only time he was believable. The rest of the time he didn't appear like a man confident of his "do anything and get away with it status", he seemed like an "insecure trying to push my way around" type of dude.

Barricade - my only disappointment was that he sounded just like General Grievous... I half expected him to say something about Jedi scum. Oh, and then his disappearance on the highway scene, but I'm sure this was an editorial cut or something that will be explained in the next film.

Megatron not scanning anything. The alien jet thing was neat and all, but he should have scanned something. Though I can kind of understand why Bay was hesitant to do this, because there's not really much he could have picked that wouldn't have caused much rage in the die hard fan community.

The fat hacker kid. He was funny and ended up bringing some nice touches later, but for him to bring out all the symbols in 10 seconds that the government analysts couldn't do in all that time, just didn't seem right. It was like he'd seen it before or something, was much too comfortable too fast.

Biggest disappointment for the movie: no music to relate to. I was hoping so badly for a Transformers theme or Stan Bush song to be modernized and played at some point (even in the credits, even for the 2nd song in the credits would have been enough) but nothing. Despite this, there were plenty of G1 references so I guess I can live without it.

Jazz - His introductory lines were just... no.

I don't even have enough time to get into everything I liked. Which was, everything that wasn't mentioned above.

Even Barricade's voice, after getting past the Gen. Grievous thing, sounds and works great with the attitude and aggression he displayed in that scene.

I'll just address some of the previous detractors' comments.

You didn't like how the Transformers looked... What did you want exactly? Refridgerator boxes painted up with robot heads? The Citröen C4 commercial?
Not to insult G1 (I loved G1 with all my heart) animation but that could never cut it in a live action movie.
Think of the aesthetics of those vehicles, and all of the moving and nonmoving parts that are in them. Realize there have to be additional alien parts there to manipulate things to be able to transform. Like muscles and ligaments.
It can't just look like a truck or a car standing up with a head on it. I mean, where do you think the head comes from? To think your logic would mean to accept a muffler with a smiley face painted on it. That talks.

You're saying you can accept a robot head but not the rest of the robot anatomy with the parts necessary to achieve transformation included.

Regarding all the continuity questions, I think it all flowed rather well.

I saw a sarcastic comment about how entering Earth's atmosphere and the temperatures involved don't damage transformers, but that heated ammunition does. Why is that hard to swallow? A space shuttle can re-enter our atmosphere with the proper insulative protection, but if you took a Vulcan cannon and lit that sucker up, it's going to go bye bye. Trust me. It's pretty clear the transformers used a travel meteor-like form which was very compacted and protected them for space travel, entry and landing.

The above argument goes for the person who commented about the freezing effects of space.

About the Transformers acting, childlike? Something someone said earlier... Well they were acting cautious and discovering Earth and its inhabitants. All they had to go on was electronic information and television, which is much different when you suddenly get plunged into real life situations of Earth's culture. I'm sure reading about life's goings on over the internet is much different when you know nothing about the life itself firsthand.

And my last argument is for those who say the movie is dirty and unethical. I assume you're talking about the cursing and m*sturbation references. Well, the G1 movie had at least 2 cursewords that I can remember, and that was a cartoon 20 years ago. Things have changed a bit, and we are talking a liveaction movie that is depicting how this would happen, if it really happened, in a realistic way. Trust me, there is cursing in the army, as well as in any situation which is highly alarming and dangerous.

The movie was made to entertain adults probably more so than children. As we grow up we are not entertained by the same exact situations and language, therefore it did a (I believe) successful compromise of the age groups that will be enjoying the movie. There is adult humor and teen humor and humor that younger kids can appreciate as well. That's why it is rated PG 13, because you are actually supposed to guide your kids into understanding some of the content in the movie.

As far as being unethical or not of "Christian" values (which one or two of the previous posters have mentioned specifically)... you are holding the mainstream secular media standards much too high. What, did you expect a Carman version of Transformers? It's never going to air on Trinity Broadcast Network so that whole argument is ridiculous. Today's CCM needs attention before you address secular entertainment sources. Let he who is without throw the first stone.

Anyways, major congratulations to Bay and Dreamworks (especially ILM for making it seem as if they got real Transformers and had them act in a movie, the effects are incredible, best I have ever seen hands down) for making a definite movie of the year, the best action movie I've ever seen, and one of my top several movies of all time.

I'll definitely anticipate the sequel anxiously.

[hubcapsignstop]

for the record; i was also quite dissappointed by this movie
did not like

[Nico]

I reallt loved it! Sure, it has flaw like any movie. But lets move to my review!!!

Optimus Prime: Prime was ok, i guess. He acted a little different from his G1 self but i was expecting that. For some reason, he was slighty closer to Optimus Primal. Why? Because he seemed to have flaw. Yup, Optimus Prime has flaw. its a good thing, it show no one is perfect.

Bumblebee: He was cool and he had a sense of humour. Not an awesom caracter but he was pretty badass for Bumblebee...who used to be a punching-bag!

Jazz: Poor Jazz...

Ratchet: Not much personnality, but he amde me laugh about his "pheromone" thing! For the first time EVER, a Transformer USED HIS NOSE!!!

Ironhide: Even cooler than Prime or any other! Ironhide was KICK-ASS! My favorite Autobot from the Movie. And this guy is so loaded whit gun!

Megatron: Not enough screentime to jusdge, but he was very creepy!

Starscream: *Sigh* they could have shown us more!

Barricade: HOLY ****! This guy was awesome! Cool voice and cool personnality. Clearly, he was freakin cool for a new caracter. And there are not much Decepticon who turn into Car!

Frenzy: This thing was crazy! He's like Waspinator mixed whit Soundwave on CRACK!!! He was ****!

Blackout and Scorponok: Not much personnality, but they where cool!

Devastator A.K.A Brawl: ...

Bonecrusher: PWND!!!

[dbz77]

I want to know Bay's explanation for the "no mass-shifting" when Frenzy did a TON of it. Kinda like where the hell was Prime keeping that sword?? Also if the All Spark gave life, was it naturally aggressive giving all these machines weapons right away? The phone had machine guns and a blade (I didn't see those parts standard with my phone) and all the things on the street were attacking people!

Frenzy lost the bulk of his mass when his head was cut off.

The mass for his new body came from the Allspark's container.


Michael

[dbz77]

The capturing of Bumblebee was kinda pointless. they could have gotten him to the allspark by having Sam chase his parents in Bumblebee or something decent. The allspark fixed Bumblebee's voice processors, gave Frenzy a new body to attach to its head, yet didn't do the same to Bumblebee's legs... are we supposed to believe that the smaller allspark is not capable of the same kinds of power as when it is full size.

The Allspark was presumably destroyed at the end of the movie.


Michael

[Starscream227]

Gentlemen, this crow is dry and bland...

I don't believe I've been this impressed in a while, though it suffered from a sever lack of decepticons....

SIDE NOTE( FROM A FRIEND):
For over a year now since learning about the movie, then seeing spoilers and trailer, I had been getting upset and angry at Mr. Bay, but after seeing the movie, that Man trully deserves a HUGE apology from Me...

[Versa]

Those so hideously disappointed in the flick... Show us your script ideas! I want to see just what you would have written to make it the most amazing film ever.

Of course it's a given that there was cheesy stuff. It was a pretty basic brainless plot, and it was about one of the most fun movies I have ever seen. I have never been so energized by a movie aside from my other favorites like Star Wars and stuff. This film definitely did not have major lengths of character development, but this is far from a bad start to the fanchise. Now that they have this first movie they can get more into the other characters development as these stories continue. I was highly entertained and wanted more. It was one of the shortest 2 hour movies I have ever seen. I went into it feeling like a kid again. No shame... It was amazing. I think Spielberg made a great decision. This was a FUN film, not one for the Oscars for best picture, but it wins best picture so far this year in my book for a freakin' good time! I really felt like a kid again after thinking I was going to hate this movie entirely. Killer flick.

[Creature SH]

Those so hideously disappointed in the flick... Show us your script ideas! I want to see just what you would have written to make it the most amazing film ever.

Sooo.. If you buy a new car, and it falls apart the moment you get driving... You're not entitled to complain until you can build a better car ?

[Autobot032]

Those so hideously disappointed in the flick... Show us your script ideas! I want to see just what you would have written to make it the most amazing film ever.

Sooo.. If you buy a new car, and it falls apart the moment you get driving... You're not entitled to complain until you can build a better car ?

You tell me, when has that *EVER* happened?

You go out you buy ______ (
You take it back, they repair it (since it's under warrenty) but you're feeling remarkably bitchy, more so than you've ever felt...

You complain to all the people involved, write a letter (note: you didn't start a campaign, nor did you ask others to write with you, so for this little giblet, we won't use one.) just what the hell do you think they're going to do once they've read it? That is...if it makes it past their corporate mail room...

This is what will happen:

"Sir, for some reason, they let this letter through downstairs."

"Alright, let me see here. Hmm. "Bitch, whine, moan, bitch bitch, whine, moan, OMGWTFBBBQ?!, bitch." I love this person's overzealous usage of the complainer 2000, but with no insight into what they'd do better, just what we should do...they hold no ground with me. Besides, we make the cars, they drive them. They don't like it? Tough. We're doing the best we can in a terrible market*. Throw the letter out, and let's move on. If we get more like it, we might consider the changes, but one bad car just isn't worth my time."

Nothing will get fixed, at least not now. So...complaining 'til you're blue in the face at this point does....what, exactly?

Ah. Nothing. What's done is done and cannot be corrected at this time, so...it's safe to say that at this point bitching is your comfort zone, and let's face it....you're not a true fan unless you flex the bitching muscles 'til they bleed.

What good comes of that? Nothing.

*= the movie market's no better than any other. Crap product has been coming out for years, doesn't seem to be letting up either. All things considered, this movie was a wow type, compared to others.

[Master_Prime]

Well, I am a life long Generation one fan, and super fan of Optimus Prime and I saw the movie last night, and IT WAS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-The movie was respectful with the original series w/ throwback scenes and lines!!

-The TF's look different than they did in G1, but kept their personality. (and whoever says this Prime didn't act like G1 Prime, well, they obviously weren't watching the same movie....)

-The movie was just all around fun! With extremely funny scenes, good story, and explosive action!!

I was sort of a doubter, glad I was wrong and can't wait to see it again in the theaters!!!!!!!

P.S. When I went to last nights showing, it was packed and got a rounding applause when done! It deserved it!!

Optimus Rocks!

[Autobot032]

Well, I am a life long Generation one fan, and super fan of Optimus Prime and I saw the movie last night, and IT WAS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-The movie was respectful with the original series w/ throwback scenes and lines!!

-The TF's look different than they did in G1, but kept their personality. (and whoever says this Prime didn't act like G1 Prime, well, they obviously weren't watching the same movie....)

-The movie was just all around fun! With extremely funny scenes, good story, and explosive action!!

I was sort of a doubter, glad I was wrong and can't wait to see it again in the theaters!!!!!!!

P.S. When I went to last nights showing, it was packed and got a rounding applause when done! It deserved it!!

Optimus Rocks!

Actually Prime was somewhat different.

...he was even better than ever. The human touch to their personalities really sold them for me. It made them work when I think a Data-esque act would've ruined it.

Prime and co. are the best they've ever been.

[Airtigatron]

I followed G1 a little, but for the most part was a Beast Wars follower. Saw it today, I enjoyed it!

However, I think its being a slight bit overrated by some IMO. It was good, but it was kinda scattered and some things could have used more explaining...what happened with the blonde hotness with the accent? That kind came to an abrupt halt. The humor was a I'd say a liiiittle overdone and I felt like it was one big eBay advertisement. So I enjoyed it for the most part, got better when Optimus showed up, but those were my issues. Probably wont buy it or give it a full second viewing.

[Autobot032]

I followed G1 a little, but for the most part was a Beast Wars follower. Saw it today, I enjoyed it!

However, I think its being a slight bit overrated by some IMO. It was good, but it was kinda scattered and some things could have used more explaining...what happened with the blonde hotness with the accent? That kind came to an abrupt halt. The humor was a I'd say a liiiittle overdone and I felt like it was one big eBay advertisement. So I enjoyed it for the most part, got better when Optimus showed up, but those were my issues. Probably wont buy it or give it a full second viewing.

I agree that it has it's share of problems, but I'm going to take everyone's advice and watch it again. Apparently it fares better under repeat viewings. In fact one of the posters (not this board, another one) went back (his G/F dragged him back) and after the second viewing he loves the movie.

It's all about sensory overload. Too much too fast too soon. You need repeated doses to get the full effect.

[Airtigatron]

Yea, a second view probably would be good and Id like it more. Though it seems the thing thats getting the most talk outta this movie is the JJ Abrams movie preview at the beginning and boy is that preview is being yanked off youtube fast. Sure are keeping hush hush on that thing.

Some people in the theater thought it was part of Transformers when it started lol

[Autobobby1]

Well, I am a life long Generation one fan, and super fan of Optimus Prime and I saw the movie last night, and IT WAS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-The movie was respectful with the original series w/ throwback scenes and lines!!

-The TF's look different than they did in G1, but kept their personality. (and whoever says this Prime didn't act like G1 Prime, well, they obviously weren't watching the same movie....)

-The movie was just all around fun! With extremely funny scenes, good story, and explosive action!!

I was sort of a doubter, glad I was wrong and can't wait to see it again in the theaters!!!!!!!

P.S. When I went to last nights showing, it was packed and got a rounding applause when done! It deserved it!!

Optimus Rocks!

Actually Prime was somewhat different.

...he was even better than ever. The human touch to their personalities really sold them for me. It made them work when I think a Data-esque act would've ruined it.

Prime and co. are the best they've ever been.

Yeah, I liked this Prime even more than the others! He was a lot like G1 prime, but he was less one-dimensional. In the original, he was just the proud, determined, and heroic leader. While they kept those traits, they gave him a little more personality ("Come on, don't you know how to hide?!") and a slight sense of humor.

He's like a mix of G1 and Unicron Trilogy Prime with a little flavor thrown in.

In fact, ALL of the characters were less generic and overall better. Starsream is sneakier and not a punching bag (YAY!). Megatron is more sinister and more insane.

Ironhide was tougher and acted more like a soldier than the old guy from G1. Jazz had more 'tude and wasn't a dork. Ratchet acted more like a doctor with some geek thrown in. Bumblebee was more human and expressive, even if he didn't talk. He was also funnier!

So all the characters are better, but some people think they're stupider. THEY AREN'T. In fact, they fixed a huge problem: in G1, they got used to Earth IMMEDIATELY and got to know the locals easily. In the movie, they not only don't know much about humans and don't really understand them, but they act more like they aren't used to Earth.

[Darth Bombshell]

I picked up the Georgia Straight (a free local newspaper) today, which had a review of the movie. And which contains, IMHO, the most awesome quote I've seen in any review thus far:

It's like "Starship Troopers" with most of the sarcasm taken out, and it's still the year's best summer movie.

[tile_mcgillus]

Where did the evil Mountain Dew machine shooting pop can rockets at people go...

Did the Secretary of Defense and the computer hacker ever escaep their fight? I know frenzy got hurt or something but he can renegerate right? anyone...

Why didn't all the cars transform when sam was runnin by with the allspark..did they not pay enought to be featured in the movie...

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO BARRICADE...

[tile_mcgillus]

The number of weird racist things in this movie:
1. Indian stereotype *edited*phone*edited* operator
2. Bernie Mac threatening physical violence against his "classy" Momma.
3. The Black hacker living with his momma and being lazy playing video games. Then the guys running from the cops.
4. "Iranian scientists are too stupid to figure this out..."
5. Every single stereotypical thing that came out of Jazz's mouth.
6. "WE DONT SPEAK SPANISH! STOP IT!"

I am not just searching these things out here. I know Tyrese's character is strong and a warrior and the smartest hacker in the world is Anthony Anderson. However, AA never says anything intelligent and just eats donuts and cries.

[SeekerInAFakeMoustache]

I finally got to see it.

SPOILERS FOLLOW HERE:

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The plot is, loosely: Sam Witwicky is trying to scrape up money by selling his quasi-famous grandfather's stuff on eBay. Unfortunately, one of his sales items- a pair of glasses with a secret code burned into them- attracts the attention of the a secret organization called Sector Seven and a group of warring machines from Cybertron. In order to protect Sam, the Autobots send one of their own to pose as his car.

The good news is, the humor in the film is (for the most part) actually funny. The cosmic conspiriacy to embarass Sam in front of Mikaela works, from his report full of funny-sounding words like "seaman" and "sextant" to Frenzy pantsing him (I'd have liked it better if his pants hadn't mysteriously reappeared on his legs a few shots later). Ever want to see a flight attendant eat a Hostess cake off the floor? Well, I didn't either, but it did make me giggle. Even the old "monotonous phone operator amidst life-threatening chaos" gag came off well, as one soldier searches another's pockets for his credit card while fending off Scorponok.

Also, they get points for introducing a character who a) has a wife and kids waiting for him, b) talks about things he's going to do in the future, and c) survives the entire film in spite of a and b.

The major con was the severe lack of 'Cons. It's kind of sad that Barricade and Frenzy got more air time than Megatron. Bonecrusher, Scorponok, and Devastator die faster than slasher movie extras, Blackout just sort of fades into the background after his initial scene, and I guess Starscream got bored in the middle of the climactic final battle and said "screw it," 'cause after he shoots down the other airplanes, we don't see a lick of him until the credits. The Autobots don't fare a whole lot better, to be honest, but at least they get some dialogue and development.

I was annoyed quite a bit by the tangled, dangling plot threads, too. The timeline was a total mess. If Megatron and the Allspark were found- and activated- in Victorian times, when exactly did Megatron come up with the plan to use the Allspark to turn Earth machines into Decepticons, seeing how they didn't have much technology for the sliver of time he was awake? If he were conscious the whole time he was frozen, he might be able to see the technology come into being and form this plan, but then how would Optimus Prime find out about it? He couldn't be able to communicate with them, or he could have just told them where he (and the Allspark) was, and Frenzy wouldn't have had to spend the first half of the film digging through classified files. If one of the other Decepticons came up with this plan, why do Optimus and Sam both credit it to Megatron? Why do fairly important characters vanish into the ether with alarming frequency? Why does everyone unanimously decide the safest place for the Allspark is a densely-populated city full of skyscrapers and other hazards? Why wasn't Blackout shot down whe he refused to comply with orders? How the blazes did Sam get his pants back after Frenzy ripped them off? I'm sure the prequels address at least some of these questions, but the film should be self-contained enough so Joe Average Viewer doesn't have to have the comics, books, website, and video game just to understand what's going on.

Verdict? It's a fun film, but ultimately pretty forgettable. It'll probably appeal far more to than .

Ending soundbite:

'Stache's Mom: (Watching a panorama of the intricate technological secret government base inside Hoover Dam) I'm going to have more respect for Hoover Dam from now on.

'Stache: Me, too. (Dreamily) Starscream touched it.

[theprime8604]

well i dont even know were to start... the movie was great i saw it on the 2nd and then again today u know sumthing i still was like a little kid again.. and the theater was packed both times the movie was great.. the fight scenes were so good.. now the story was a little different but i still got into it.. one thing that really sucked if u didnt see the movie yet why did jazz have to die that really sucked.. and when jazz said wazz up bitches the whole theater went in a uproar it was cool. all i have to say is that the movie was great.. and if peepz cant get with that.... not my issue the movie gets a 10 and by the way i just want to thank the movie for letting me become a little kid again

[Airtigatron]

The theater was packed for the showing I went to, lucky I got a good seat. At first I was worried I wouldnt get a ticket because they had signs saying sold out....but it was for Ratatouille.