The Energon Pub

[Ironhidensh]

And to those who say snakes are associated with the devil; certainly, if one is religious, you cannot forget the fact that God would have created snakes in the first place, and so should not condemn a creature of His making simply because of a supposed connection to Satan. It would not have been allowed to remain in the Garden of Eden if it really was associated with the devil.

So...we shouldn't condemn Satan, either? Because God made him, too.

Well, unlike Satan, snakes never led a rebellion against God and tainted a perfect world with sin, so I would say that's an unfair comparison.

And then there's me in the atheist corner, who just thinks snakes are cool and likes them.

That's a shame. Only pod people like snakes.

[Shadowman]

And to those who say snakes are associated with the devil; certainly, if one is religious, you cannot forget the fact that God would have created snakes in the first place, and so should not condemn a creature of His making simply because of a supposed connection to Satan. It would not have been allowed to remain in the Garden of Eden if it really was associated with the devil.

So...we shouldn't condemn Satan, either? Because God made him, too.

Well, unlike Satan, snakes never led a rebellion against God and tainted a perfect world with sin, so I would say that's an unfair comparison.

Even though god is supposed to be omnipotent, seeing everything that has happened, is happening, and will happen in the future, as a perfect being and creator of all things would. He created satan, knowing what he'd do, and went with it anyway.

Fun fact: Satan isn't even in the original translation of the bible, and neither is hell; this is stuff that got added in by catholic roam when they translated it into Latin.

So, the snake in other words, was just a snake...a talking snake.

Snakes can talk.

First off, Rome. Seriously, what do they teach in school these days?

Second, by that logic, snakes are the reason humanity got kicked out of Eden, not Satan, since he didn't even really "exist" at the time of writing, but just snakes.

[DedicatedGhostArt]

-any kinds of rides at carnivals or amusement parks (I get motion sick extremely easily.)

Finally, someone else who doesn't like roller coasters (and for the same reason, at that)!

No Six Flags for me!

And no King's Island for me!

Also, I need to add to that list I made above.

-adults in body suits

That means, no Disneyworld for me either. I mean, you never know who's in one of those! What if it's the Purple Guy! (FNaF joke)

That one, not as much.

Am I wrong for saying that videos of people in body suits getting punched in the face are hilarious to me? Maybe it's the fact that I can't see the person inside, or maybe it's how the hand bounces their padded faces to the ground.

And to those who say snakes are associated with the devil; certainly, if one is religious, you cannot forget the fact that God would have created snakes in the first place, and so should not condemn a creature of His making simply because of a supposed connection to Satan. It would not have been allowed to remain in the Garden of Eden if it really was associated with the devil.

So...we shouldn't condemn Satan, either? Because God made him, too.

Well, unlike Satan, snakes never led a rebellion against God and tainted a perfect world with sin, so I would say that's an unfair comparison.

Even though god is supposed to be omnipotent, seeing everything that has happened, is happening, and will happen in the future, as a perfect being and creator of all things would. He created satan, knowing what he'd do, and went with it anyway.

Fun fact: Satan isn't even in the original translation of the bible, and neither is hell; this is stuff that got added in by catholic roam when they translated it into Latin.

So, the snake in other words, was just a snake...a talking snake.

Snakes can talk.

First off, Rome. Seriously, what do they teach in school these days?

Second, by that logic, snakes are the reason humanity got kicked out of Eden, not Satan, since he didn't even really "exist" at the time of writing, but just snakes.

I like this guy.

And to those who say snakes are associated with the devil; certainly, if one is religious, you cannot forget the fact that God would have created snakes in the first place, and so should not condemn a creature of His making simply because of a supposed connection to Satan. It would not have been allowed to remain in the Garden of Eden if it really was associated with the devil.

I'm religious, and I think that notion is stupid. Since Lucifer was described as one of the angels, it is likely that he merely took the form of a serpent.

Na I actually kinda agree with Maximo on that one. Snakes aren't evil. The Bible probably was not just using the "you will crawl on your belly" thing as just referring to the snake, but as a double meaning saying the devil is to slither and be despised. Snakes are not evil, they're just a metaphor for the devil's defeat. People who worship satan though do like to use the snake as a symbol though, but that ain't the snake's fault!

[BeastProwl]

You know what? Nevermind. I had this big elaborate post planned out and written, but then realized that arguing religion is against forum rules. At least I think it is. So I'm just gonna bow out. You wanna keep going you can pm me, but honestly, there's really no point in arguing.


And yes I misspelled a word, my whole education must be terrible no ****, I went to school in america.

[Autobot N]

Na I actually kinda agree with Maximo on that one. Snakes aren't evil. The Bible probably was not just using the "you will crawl on your belly" thing as just referring to the snake, but as a double meaning saying the devil is to slither and be despised. Snakes are not evil, they're just a metaphor for the devil's defeat. People who worship satan though do like to use the snake as a symbol though, but that ain't the snake's fault!

That's what I'm saying. The assumption that snakes are evil because of Satan is moronic.

[DedicatedGhostArt]

Na I actually kinda agree with Maximo on that one. Snakes aren't evil. The Bible probably was not just using the "you will crawl on your belly" thing as just referring to the snake, but as a double meaning saying the devil is to slither and be despised. Snakes are not evil, they're just a metaphor for the devil's defeat. People who worship satan though do like to use the snake as a symbol though, but that ain't the snake's fault!

That's what I'm saying. The assumption that snakes are evil because of Satan is moronic.

Ahh I just reread your reply to Maximo, and didn't see till now that you were agreeing with him rather than arguing. Don't you people sometimes get the feeling that our brains have auto-correct?

[Madeus Prime]

ANYWAYS, steering from the religious conversation...

Did I tell you guys about how meta my car is?

[DedicatedGhostArt]

ANYWAYS, steering from the religious conversation...

Did I tell you guys about how meta my car is?

[Rodimus Prime]

Did I tell you guys about how meta my car is?

What. In the hell. Does that. Mean?

[Madeus Prime]

Did I tell you guys about how meta my car is?

What. In the hell. Does that. Mean?

I own a 2016 Chevy Spark. As in the same (albeit newer) model that Movie Skids was. And I got it in a light blue that is only a shade off of his G1 colors. I'm looking into getting decals put on that will replicate the red and white stripes.

It's meta because it's Movie Skids' vehicle mode in G1 colors and I'm getting Autobot symbols for it.

I know it's not actually meta, but I was bored.

[Ironhidensh]

That's not very manly. You need a big ass 4x4 pickup truck from the eighties.

[Autobot N]

That's not very manly. You need a big ass 4x4 pickup truck from the eighties.

Agreed.

[Madeus Prime]

That's not very manly. You need a big ass 4x4 pickup truck from the eighties.

Agreed.

In a town where everybody owns one, it's difficult to stand out.

[DedicatedGhostArt]

I know most would probably disagree, but purple is like the best color ever. I need some sort of car that has at least some purple on it. I like a bright rich violet.

[Madeus Prime]

I know most would probably disagree, but purple is like the best color ever. I need some sort of car that has at least some purple on it. I like a bright rich violet.

The only other colors it came in were these:
Black Granite Metallic
Electric Blue Metallic
Kalamata Metallic
Lime Metallic
Salsa
Silver Ice Metallic
Splash Metallic
Summit White
Titanium Metallic
Toasted Marshmallow Metallic

I hate red cars (except for Lamborghinis or Stringrays), so Salsa was a big no. I didn't want any dark colors as we have a dirt road, meaning it gets dusty every time I drive it. And I really dislike silvery colors so those were a big no. Leaving me with the choice of either Lime or Splash. Given the choice between Skids' movie colors and his comic ones...yeah, easy choice.

[DedicatedGhostArt]

I know most would probably disagree, but purple is like the best color ever. I need some sort of car that has at least some purple on it. I like a bright rich violet.

The only other colors it came in were these:
Black Granite Metallic
Electric Blue Metallic
Kalamata Metallic
Lime Metallic
Salsa
Silver Ice Metallic
Splash Metallic
Summit White
Titanium Metallic
Toasted Marshmallow Metallic

I hate red cars (except for Lamborghinis or Stringrays), so Salsa was a big no. I didn't want any dark colors as we have a dirt road, meaning it gets dusty every time I drive it. And I really dislike silvery colors so those were a big no. Leaving me with the choice of either Lime or Splash. Given the choice between Skids' movie colors and his comic ones...yeah, easy choice.

BUT, is it a good car?

[Rodimus Prime]

That's not very manly. You need a big ass 4x4 pickup truck from the eighties.

Agreed.

In a town where everybody owns one, it's difficult to stand out.

So in a town full of hillbilly wagons, you're riding around in a little Matchbox car? Yeah, that's standing out, but not in a good way.

As for the TF movies and pickup trucks themselves, if I had the money, I would so buy a GMC that was Ironhide's alt mode. I would probably need at least a Class B CDL, but that's okay.

[DedicatedGhostArt]

That's not very manly. You need a big ass 4x4 pickup truck from the eighties.

Agreed.

In a town where everybody owns one, it's difficult to stand out.

So in a town full of hillbilly wagons, you're riding around in a little Matchbox car? Yeah, that's standing out, but not in a good way.

As for the TF movies and pickup trucks themselves, if I had the money, I would so buy a GMC that was Ironhide's alt mode. I would probably need at least a Class B CDL, but that's okay.

Black is not a good color for hot places so that's a no for me.

[Tyrannacon]

My dad is a truck guy and I'm kind of a "regular car" to "muscle car" kind of guy myself. He's got a Dodge pickup that's fairly recent and I got a Chevy Aveo. TBH I wanted an Impala, but couldn't find a particularly good one when we went car shopping last. I do want to add the Decepticon emblems to it like I did with my Dodge Neon, but haven't gotten around to it either unfortunately. Coincidentally we both have silver vehicles.

[Nemesis Maximo]

Did I tell you guys about how meta my car is?

What. In the hell. Does that. Mean?

I own a 2016 Chevy Spark. As in the same (albeit newer) model that Movie Skids was. And I got it in a light blue that is only a shade off of his G1 colors. I'm looking into getting decals put on that will replicate the red and white stripes.

It's meta because it's Movie Skids' vehicle mode in G1 colors and I'm getting Autobot symbols for it.

I know it's not actually meta,

THEN WHY WOULD YOU SAY IT IS IN THE FIRST PLACE?!

...I was bored.

*HIGH FIVES MADEUS IN THE FAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE!!!

[BeastProwl]

As for the TF movies and pickup trucks themselves, if I had the money, I would so buy a GMC that was Ironhide's alt mode. I would probably need at least a Class B CDL, but that's okay.

The Topkick was a sexy truck, and I wanted one too. Pretty sure it got discontinued though...
Kinda like the original Hummer. I wanted one of those too.

[Burn]

Manly cars you say? Snapped this picture at last weekends car/bike show/swap meet.

[Ironhidensh]

Manly cars you say? Snapped this picture at last weekends car/bike show/swap meet.

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Yes!!

[Madeus Prime]

So in a town full of hillbilly wagons, you're riding around in a little Matchbox car? Yeah, that's standing out, but not in a good way.

It's ok, I'm part of the art/band kids crowd, all we own are hatchbacks, sedans, and small SUVs.

Black is not a good color for hot places so that's a no for me.

Agreed, Washington may the rainy state, but that's strictly out west. Eastern Washington is pretty much bone dry and roasting, it being 83 degrees here at 10:15 AM. For example, I looked at a black Mini during my tour of car dealerships, I opened the door and it was a good 15-20 degrees hotter in there, plus, faux leather, so it was like an oven that clung to your skin.

TBH I wanted an Impala, but couldn't find a particularly good one when we went car shopping last.

...Please tell me you were looking for the '67 model in black?

Manly cars you say? Snapped this picture at last weekends car/bike show/swap meet.

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Yes!!

Oh yes, if I could've bought a classic car, I would've.

[DedicatedGhostArt]

I haven't been able to go to driving school yet because of medical issues in my family, as well as me just being too f-ing busy. However, as far as cars, I would go more practical, but with a color I like. I'd probably get a small van. Probably a five-seater. I want electric blue with gold rims so I can put an Autobot insignia on it and call it Glyph. I love that color combo. I want my car to also be elevated off the ground more than a sports car, so I'm not concerned about being almost invisible for truckers...

...or I could go as my profile says.

Alt Mode: The most ridiculous thing ever.