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I absolutely love this Perceptor figure. The Titans Return one was ok, but left me wanting for a better one. As one of my main top fav characters, its important to me to have a great Perceptor and this is it. Of course I wish it had forearm covers and a cover on his back, but Im sure a kit will be made.

Also someone out there please put out a kit for 86' Kup. I would really like a new head with a better face sculpt. Preferably an IDW cygar one.

Moonshot wrote:I absolutely love this Perceptor figure. The Titans Return one was ok, but left me wanting for a better one. As one of my main top fav characters, its important to me to have a great Perceptor and this is it. Of course I wish it had forearm covers and a cover on his back, but Im sure a kit will be made.

Also someone out there please put out a kit for 86' Kup. I would really like a new head with a better face sculpt. Preferably an IDW cygar one.

Agreed on all of this

Hopefully some kits surface with IDW heads for Kup, Perceptor, and Kingdom Cyclonus, and their respective weapons

Eh. I actually still like the Titans Return version better.

Sowndwave76 wrote:I'll definitely be looking for an upgrade kit for this guy.
But for the most part, I think his bot mode is very on point...
I appreciate that he has his original alt mode, and at the same time, this is a reminder as to why a vehicle mode has been used in the past... "Playing" with a microscope that doesn't really work or do anything isn't exactly the most exciting feature.

While it probably doesn't need to work, I don't think it would have been that expensive to make it work as a person can buy relatively cheap microscope set in the toy section as it is for $30-40. So to add a couple lenses in his scope couldn't have cost more than $4 at most.

That said, how many people plan to ever use it as a functional microscope anyways? lol

AcademyofDrX wrote:
I know why people call PvP a thief whenever he posts but I don't know why we need to have this debate every time in response.

Thank you, yes, let's move on.

That pic with Hot Rod is very telling of the current reality where size is no longer as relevant in the class distinction, its all about parts count/complexity now.

william-james88 wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:
I know why people call PvP a thief whenever he posts but I don't know why we need to have this debate every time in response.

Thank you, yes, let's move on.

That pic with Hot Rod is very telling of the current reality where size is no longer as relevant in the class distinction, its all about parts count/complexity now.

It always has been. Otherwise Armada Tidal Wave, Animated Lockdown and Battle Blade Bumblebee would be a Class higher.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:
I know why people call PvP a thief whenever he posts but I don't know why we need to have this debate every time in response.

Thank you, yes, let's move on.

That pic with Hot Rod is very telling of the current reality where size is no longer as relevant in the class distinction, its all about parts count/complexity now.

It always has been. Otherwise Armada Tidal Wave, Animated Lockdown and Battle Blade Bumblebee would be a Class higher.

But you didnt have shorter bots being a class higher, that element is new.

william-james88 wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:
I know why people call PvP a thief whenever he posts but I don't know why we need to have this debate every time in response.

Thank you, yes, let's move on.

That pic with Hot Rod is very telling of the current reality where size is no longer as relevant in the class distinction, its all about parts count/complexity now.

It always has been. Otherwise Armada Tidal Wave, Animated Lockdown and Battle Blade Bumblebee would be a Class higher.

But you didnt have shorter bots being a class higher, that element is new.

Beast Machines Megatron was Deluxe height sold as a Mega because of his wings.

william-james88 wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:
I know why people call PvP a thief whenever he posts but I don't know why we need to have this debate every time in response.

Thank you, yes, let's move on.

That pic with Hot Rod is very telling of the current reality where size is no longer as relevant in the class distinction, its all about parts count/complexity now.

It always has been. Otherwise Armada Tidal Wave, Animated Lockdown and Battle Blade Bumblebee would be a Class higher.

But you didnt have shorter bots being a class higher, that element is new.

Yeah, scale did mess things up. Originally they were catered to packaging size it looks like, but now...

Guess nobody noticed the repainted Arcee I can only assume is the Studio Series 86 version? Or a custom?

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:
I know why people call PvP a thief whenever he posts but I don't know why we need to have this debate every time in response.

Thank you, yes, let's move on.

That pic with Hot Rod is very telling of the current reality where size is no longer as relevant in the class distinction, its all about parts count/complexity now.

It always has been. Otherwise Armada Tidal Wave, Animated Lockdown and Battle Blade Bumblebee would be a Class higher.

But you didnt have shorter bots being a class higher, that element is new.

Yeah, scale did mess things up. Originally they were catered to packaging size it looks like, but now...

The 86 movie Autobots were always somewhat larger than the average 84-85 Autobot, there's nothing wrong with the scale.

sol magnus wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Yeah, scale did mess things up. Originally they were catered to packaging size it looks like, but now...

The 86 movie Autobots were always somewhat larger than the average 84-85 Autobot, there's nothing wrong with the scale.

Messed things up as in going from "How big should he be to fit in the box" to "it costs this much to make him this correct size, what price point should we put him in".

Till-all-R1 wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I'll definitely be looking for an upgrade kit for this guy.
But for the most part, I think his bot mode is very on point...
I appreciate that he has his original alt mode, and at the same time, this is a reminder as to why a vehicle mode has been used in the past... "Playing" with a microscope that doesn't really work or do anything isn't exactly the most exciting feature.

While it probably doesn't need to work, I don't think it would have been that expensive to make it work as a person can buy relatively cheap microscope set in the toy section as it is for $30-40. So to add a couple lenses in his scope couldn't have cost more than $4 at most.

That said, how many people plan to ever use it as a functional microscope anyways? lol

Yeah, my point is while other characters race off as a vehicle, jet, or animal, as part of almost any scenario a kid could make up, a microscope in general isn't that fun to play with.
On top of that, I'll add it's not exactly some sweet display piece.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I'll definitely be looking for an upgrade kit for this guy.
But for the most part, I think his bot mode is very on point...
I appreciate that he has his original alt mode, and at the same time, this is a reminder as to why a vehicle mode has been used in the past... "Playing" with a microscope that doesn't really work or do anything isn't exactly the most exciting feature.

While it probably doesn't need to work, I don't think it would have been that expensive to make it work as a person can buy relatively cheap microscope set in the toy section as it is for $30-40. So to add a couple lenses in his scope couldn't have cost more than $4 at most.

That said, how many people plan to ever use it as a functional microscope anyways? lol

Yeah, my point is while other characters race off as a vehicle, jet, or animal, as part of almost any scenario a kid could make up, a microscope in general isn't that fun to play with.
On top of that, I'll add it's not exactly some sweet display piece.

But that was the fun of adding Microchange toys to the line

Though at least Blaster used to work as an am radio

AcademyofDrX wrote:I know why people call PvP a thief whenever he posts but I don't know why we need to have this debate every time in response.

Then maybe his videos need to not be posted anymore here, oh wait I remember who the site owner is, never mind it is all about the page clicks for the forums and what goes into his pocketbooks and his collection regardless the right or wrong of the situation (I was site admin for 7 years and know all kinds of dirty secrets and one is the reason I stepped away).

william-james88 wrote:
Thank you, yes, let's move on.

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Yes lets move along now, I will most certainly buy Perceptor immediately on sight as he is damn near perfect IMHO. But that's just me

sol magnus wrote:Guess nobody noticed the repainted Arcee I can only assume is the Studio Series 86 version? Or a custom?

That's the Platinum Edition repaint of the Thrilling Thirty figure, the metallic paint makes it look dark instead of shiny in these photos.



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Cyber Bishop wrote:Then maybe his videos need to not be posted anymore here, oh wait I remember who the site owner is, never mind it is all about the page clicks for the forums and what goes into his pocketbooks and his collection regardless the right or wrong of the situation (I was site admin for 7 years and know all kinds of dirty secrets and one is the reason I stepped away).

There are no dirty secrets here. There is no need for drama. If you've got an issue, please feel free to contact me Earl. Please keep this topic on track.

Cyber Bishop wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:I know why people call PvP a thief whenever he posts but I don't know why we need to have this debate every time in response.

Then maybe his videos need to not be posted anymore here

We didnt post the video and went with still images instead. Lets move on. Any further comment regarding this will be sent to a different thread.

william-james88 wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:I know why people call PvP a thief whenever he posts but I don't know why we need to have this debate every time in response.

Then maybe his videos need to not be posted anymore here

We didnt post the video and went with still images instead. Lets move on. Any further comment regarding this will be sent to a different thread.

If the products are indeed stolen factory samples that PrimeVsPrime posts, or other Youtubers, it's not really our place to make judgements on it. Ultimately, it just impacts Seibertron.com and myself as it's a lost revenue opportunity for Seibertron.com (because we didn't get to post pictures of something first). If Hasbro wants to make it an issue publicly and/or stop guys like PrimeVsPrime from getting factory samples, then it's a totally different ball game. Factory leaks and movie spoilers are fair game to post on. It's up to the companies involved to prevent those things from happening.

Poor Perceptor. I hope it didn't hurt too much when he fell off the back of Optimus...

Preceptor looks like a nice clean, classic design and Blaster looks top notch, easily one of the nicest upcoming figs. Hes not a character Im attached to or know much about (same with Percy) so we'll have to see what happens

That sweet purple throne that comes with screamy star however..

M. Spector wrote:Preceptor looks like a nice clean, classic design and Blaster looks top notch, easily one of the nicest upcoming figs. Hes not a character Im attached to or know much about (same with Percy) so we'll have to see what happens

That sweet purple throne that comes with screamy star however..

If you really like the look of Blaster and Perceptor, I'd recommend getting them.
Who knows when we'll get another version of either, especially with these stylings...
I'm guessing the next incarnations of any of these characters we've received in the last couple years will have substantially different designs; whether it's due to some play gimmick, or just as an intentional change.

Sowndwave76 wrote:If you really like the look of Blaster and Perceptor, I'd recommend getting them.
Who knows when we'll get another version of either, especially with these stylings...

Yeah, especially Blaster. This is the first time since G1 that he and Soundwave don't share molds. And Blaster is popular, that toy's gonna sell super well.

william-james88 wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:If you really like the look of Blaster and Perceptor, I'd recommend getting them.
Who knows when we'll get another version of either, especially with these stylings...

Yeah, especially Blaster. This is the first time since G1 that he and Soundwave don't share molds. And Blaster is popular, that toy's gonna sell super well.

Agreed. Although I don't know how I feel about Eject and the transparent plastic...
It's kinda cool, but I think I would've liked regular plastic and coloring more.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:If you really like the look of Blaster and Perceptor, I'd recommend getting them.
Who knows when we'll get another version of either, especially with these stylings...

Yeah, especially Blaster. This is the first time since G1 that he and Soundwave don't share molds. And Blaster is popular, that toy's gonna sell super well.

Agreed. Although I don't know how I feel about Eject and the transparent plastic...
It's kinda cool, but I think I would've liked regular plastic and coloring more.

Conversely, you could have gotten a Voyager Blaster with NO cassette whatsoever. I agree the translucent plastic isn't 'ideal', but I don't mind it either. Plus, there's always the chance for an opaque reprint somewhere down the line. It's not like I have a choice - if I want the Blaster (I do, desperately), then I'm getting the Eject - translucency and all.

So I have one of each, Scourge and a Sweep(found 4 of them at Walmart this morning), and I'm only keeping one as my Scourge. Although I cant decide which. I want the most Sunbow/Marvel accurate. What are u guys opinion on which one is the most accurate colours?