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News Credits: 12 · by **Razorbeast88** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:05 pm

Does Prowl have a different head in that last pic? Hard to tell

Anyways... yeah this 2 pack kinda sucks haha F to the non-orange eyes/mouth and the chest mess

News Credits: 10 · by **sol magnus** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:15 pm

I'm still going to get it. For one thing, BLAST EFFECTS!

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:15 pm

I think the weirdest thing about them is the packaging. They're posing for battle but ... you know ... are supposed to be dead.

I get they need to market the poseability, but it would have been funnier to see them marketed as laying on the ground.

News Credits: 101 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:43 pm

I wonder if that Irondide will have painted clear plastics, or all solid plastics. :-?

News Credits: 9 · by **Sowndwave76** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:57 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:I wonder if that Irondide will have painted clear plastics, or all solid plastics.

I would bet with that “inner chest” molded detail that’s a piece of solid plastic.

News Credits: 101 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 7:03 pm

Sowndwave76 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:I wonder if that Irondide will have painted clear plastics, or all solid plastics.

I would bet with that “inner chest” molded detail that’s a piece of solid plastic.

At the very least, that part, yes. But I'm also talking about everything else like the side panels and roof bits. I would have a better clue if the guns were not pegged on the roof of the van.

News Credits: 9 · by **Sowndwave76** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 7:11 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:I wonder if that Irondide will have painted clear plastics, or all solid plastics.

I would bet with that “inner chest” molded detail that’s a piece of solid plastic.

At the very least, that part, yes. But I'm also talking about everything else like the side panels and roof bits. I would have a better clue if the guns were not pegged on the roof of the van.

Doubtful…
Hastak isn’t going to go all solid plastic on this mold now…
They’re probably thinking the solid inner chest and the yellow stripes are more than enough of an “upgrade” for this figure.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:35 pm

Jtprime17 has given an update on the Buzzworthy Bumblebee Studio Series 86-24 Ironhide and 86-20 Prowl. Along with our first look at Ironhide we see that these figures do indeed come with blast effect parts. The box doesn't really mention the characters' demise and shows the characters in action poses, but we all know what this represents. As we've seen with other Buzzworthy SS86 figures Ironhide will also be trading in the clear blue windows for painted ones as well as massive chest windshield damage. The price is reported to be MSRP: $55.98 and DCPI: 087-26-0165, a great price for a Deluxe and a Voyager. Another big thanks to Sowndwave76 for letting us know!

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 9:12 pm

Why didn't they paint the rest of Ironhide's window? Did the paint budget run out midway through? I guess a Ratchet and Brawn set is next. Maybe a Megatron? But it's in the Buzzworthy line so maybe it's a scrapped idea for a "death" subline.

I do like that chest damage molding on Ironhide.

by **Till-all-R1** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 9:48 pm

Oh so this version get the stipe. lol
If the damaged sections were swap out panels I'd be more inclined to consider purchasing it, but being they're in permanent damage mode I'll have to pass. Now the wait for Hound to see how disappointing that turns one out as well.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:22 pm

I wonder why this Ironhide has the stripe and the actual SS86 figure doesn't.

News Credits: 9 · by **Sowndwave76** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:52 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder why this Ironhide has the stripe and the actual SS86 figure doesn't.

Imo it's Hastak throwing in something that they hope people will find appealing enough to bite.

I don't want any TF figure(s) to flop, but I hope this is it for the "dead"-themed figures...
Ratchet and Brawn could be next, but damn, please no.

Till-all-R1 wrote:Oh so this version get the stipe. lol
If the damaged sections were swap out panels I'd be more inclined to consider purchasing it, but being they're in permanent damage mode I'll have to pass. Now the wait for Hound to see how disappointing that turns one out as well.

I had the same thought with damaged parts that could be completely removed...
Especially with a more screen-accurate Prowl, that could have been enough for me to get this set.

Like I said before, a SS86 Buzzworthy 2-pack was a perfect opportunity to get Sunstreaker and Hound released. The inner packaging backdrop could've been the back of the shuttle with the ramp deployed...
And with it being "ER" Hound's first (and possibly only) release, I would've been okay if Sunstreaker was literally just the ER version.
This was a missed opportunity on a few accounts.

News Credits: 12 · by **Sentinel_Primal** » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:43 pm

We got dead Ironhide before we got Ratchet

News Credits: 332 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 1:52 am

Yeah, I'm not feeling this. I am curious if this will follow the trend of SS86 releases losing the clear plastic.

by **Squawk'n'talk** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:08 am

Such heroic nonsense.

I love it.

News Credits: 10 · by **sol magnus** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 7:05 am

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yeah, I'm not feeling this. I am curious if this will follow the trend of SS86 releases losing the clear plastic.

Since it's SS86/BBB I would say it's already following that trend. Kup and Cliffjumper had no plastic.

News Credits: 19 · by **blackeyedprime** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 7:27 am

Might be my first Ironhide at least it has the stripes, not keen on the windows for prowl. Just makes the figure look cheap but it's doubtful they will do dead versions again.

News Credits: 10 · by **sol magnus** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 7:29 am

blackeyedprime wrote:Might be my first Ironhide at least it has the stripes, not keen on the windows for prowl. Just makes the figure look cheap but it's doubtful they will do dead versions again.

He didn't die in car mode.

But not to simply be flip, the color of the glass is exactly how it was in the movie.

News Credits: 1 · by **Cheetron** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 9:28 am

I don't know why but I want this set! Zombie transformers. One so close to the end that I could use Unicron or one of his minions to resurrect

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 9:43 am

Ironhide should be missing a head (at least) and have one "pleading" hand, not two fists. As mentioned before, Prowl needs effects parts and/or ports for his eyes and mouth... :twisted:

I was joking with a friend, as to who would come next in this "dead" line. Wouldn't it be funny if this line marked the debut of Windcharger?

Who hasn't had a new figure since 2018.

News Credits: 30 · by **DeathReviews** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 10:14 am

I admit, getting rid of the clear plastic has some allure to it. That clear stuff is notoriously brittle and I've seen many horror stories about the Prowl mold especially, with critical parts that break and snap major sections off just while transforming.

The combination of using weak plastic on critical transformation parts that require a lot of pressure and leverage when transforming was a horrible idea from an engineering perspective. Sure, let's make the support towers for this suspension bridge out of balsa wood and graham cracker, that sounds smart.

If they use more robust plastic for this Ironhide/Prowl, then the 'dead' versions could wind up being tougher and more long-wearing than the 'live' versions.

And how come only Optimus Prime's figure got the grey paint 'dead' makeover? If all cybertronians turn grey when they 'die', shouldn't all the dead figures get that color scheme? This kind of reaping detail is important to me, if nobody else...

.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 11:12 am

sol magnus wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yeah, I'm not feeling this. I am curious if this will follow the trend of SS86 releases losing the clear plastic.

Since it's SS86/BBB I would say it's already following that trend. Kup and Cliffjumper had no plastic.

No plastic? HasTak bringing back diecast? :lol:

And yes, we should definitely get a dead Windcharger and Wheeljack 2-pack as well. :lol:

News Credits: 6 · by **AllNewSuperRobot** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 11:34 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:And yes, we should definitely get a dead Windcharger and Wheeljack 2-pack as well.

Possibly in the RED line IE no altmodes needed... :lol:

News Credits: 10 · by **sol magnus** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 12:12 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yeah, I'm not feeling this. I am curious if this will follow the trend of SS86 releases losing the clear plastic.

Since it's SS86/BBB I would say it's already following that trend. Kup and Cliffjumper had no plastic.
No plastic? HasTak bringing back diecast?

And yes, we should definitely get a dead Windcharger and Wheeljack 2-pack as well.

The assumption on my part was that he meant the packaging. LOL

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Tue Jun 13, 2023 12:19 pm

sol magnus wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
sol magnus wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Yeah, I'm not feeling this. I am curious if this will follow the trend of SS86 releases losing the clear plastic.

Since it's SS86/BBB I would say it's already following that trend. Kup and Cliffjumper had no plastic.
No plastic? HasTak bringing back diecast?

And yes, we should definitely get a dead Windcharger and Wheeljack 2-pack as well.

The assumption on my part was that he meant the packaging. LOL

I was just being snarky. I did think you were referring to Kup and Cliffy's windshields at 1st, since they were painted in their BB versions.