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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby SGMLordMirage » Tue Jul 16, 2024 6:10 pm

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I got lucky by randomly looking at my phone and saw something about the preorder. Initially i got mine preordered on TFSource, but was able to secure a preorder through Hasbro Pulse. I will keep both preorders for now..
If by chance the preorders sell out across all the sites and someone is wanting this, pm me. We can discuss further.

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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby TK415 » Tue Jul 16, 2024 6:41 pm

What Prime is that under bumblebee?
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jul 16, 2024 6:43 pm

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TK415 wrote:What Prime is that under bumblebee?
The same Prime that's in every picture?
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby G1OptimusPAX » Tue Jul 16, 2024 7:41 pm

A DAMN MASTERPIECE ! :michaelbay:
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby TK415 » Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:25 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
TK415 wrote:What Prime is that under bumblebee?
The same Prime that's in every picture?

Is it? The hands look the same. But the eyes are yellow, and the nose is blue. The face looks different, The ears don’t look as wide
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Razorbeast88 » Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:27 pm

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TK415 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
TK415 wrote:What Prime is that under bumblebee?
The same Prime that's in every picture?

Is it? The hands look the same. But the eyes are yellow, and the nose is blue. The face looks different


The explanation is in the post

It's the commander 86 Prime with the head that came with comic Shockwave
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:28 pm

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TK415 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
TK415 wrote:What Prime is that under bumblebee?
The same Prime that's in every picture?

Is it? The hands look the same. But the eyes are yellow, and the nose is blue. The face looks different
It's wearing the severed head accessory that comes with Comic Edition Shockwave.
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Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Emerje » Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:48 pm

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Still not sold on the backpack, it's too big and ugly. Wish they could have at least given it a vague jetpack shape or something other than a pile of randomly shaped folded panels. I'm a little concerned about the size, I know a lot of people wanted a taller Prime, but this feels maybe too tall. I guess I can see why they made Ultra Magnus so ridiculously oversized, but now I'm thinking the Dinobots are too small. #-o

Anyone want to share the Amazon pre-order at least? Even if it's sold out we can still wish list it or have it in our Amazon browsing history. Nevermind, Death posted it in the preorder thread: https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Stu ... 283&sr=8-1

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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:53 pm

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Emerje wrote:I guess I can see why they made Ultra Magnus so ridiculously oversized, but now I'm thinking the Dinobots are too small. #-o
The thing about Ultra Magnus that a lot of people don't realize is that he was a size-changer in the cartoon. Not as extreme as Megatron and Soundwave were, but when he transformed, he shrank when going from vehicle to robot mode. His truck cab was equal in size and shape to Optimus's, and his car carrier trailer was about the same size as Optimus's trailer; both of which were big enough to carry some of their smaller Autobot Car comrades. But in robot mode, the entirety of Ultra Magnus's combined cab-and-trailer robot mode was only a head taller than Optimus's cab-only robot mode.

So, it's a lose-lose situation when trying to make a toy of him: Either his vehicle mode ends up being too small in order to make his robot mode the right size, or his robot mode ends up being gargantuan (just like his original G1 toy) in order to make his vehicle mode big enough to accommodate Deluxe class Autobot Cars.
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Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Tue Jul 16, 2024 9:17 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:So, it's a lose-lose situation when trying to make a toy of him: Either his vehicle mode ends up being too small in order to make his robot mode the right size, or his robot mode ends up being gargantuan (just like his original G1 toy) in order to make his vehicle mode big enough to accommodate Deluxe class Autobot Cars.


About making an SS86 Astrotrain that can change into a vehicle of the right size?
So that his... transport functions are movie accurate?

:-?
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jul 16, 2024 9:20 pm

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-Kanrabat- wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:So, it's a lose-lose situation when trying to make a toy of him: Either his vehicle mode ends up being too small in order to make his robot mode the right size, or his robot mode ends up being gargantuan (just like his original G1 toy) in order to make his vehicle mode big enough to accommodate Deluxe class Autobot Cars.


About making an SS86 Astrotrain that can change into a vehicle of the right size?
So that his... transport functions are movie accurate?

:-?
Evan has previously said that if they were to do a SS86 Astrotrain, it would likely just be a redeco of Siege Astrotrain, indicating that they care more about Astrotrain's robot mode scale instead (likely wanting to keep him and Blitzwing the same/similar height).
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby -Crossfire- » Tue Jul 16, 2024 9:50 pm

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I love my ER Prime, but ooooooohhhhh this one fixes literally every single problem I had with that mold. I wonder if they'll do a single release like they did with Netflix OP.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Immortal Starscream » Tue Jul 16, 2024 9:56 pm

the backpack is horrid, just as much as the mp-44 was. but the rest of it is spectacular imho. and not ridiculously overpriced for what you get. consider me sold.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby First-Aid » Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:11 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:So, it's a lose-lose situation when trying to make a toy of him: Either his vehicle mode ends up being too small in order to make his robot mode the right size, or his robot mode ends up being gargantuan (just like his original G1 toy) in order to make his vehicle mode big enough to accommodate Deluxe class Autobot Cars.


About making an SS86 Astrotrain that can change into a vehicle of the right size?
So that his... transport functions are movie accurate?

:-?


So you want a toy that can Transform into a bot the equivalent size of Megatron, but can form a space shuttle big enough for SS86 Devastator to fit in it as well as almost the entire Decepticon cast? Yeah...laws of physics called...quoting Scotty...
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby TK415 » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:41 pm

Razorbeast88 wrote:
TK415 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
TK415 wrote:What Prime is that under bumblebee?
The same Prime that's in every picture?

Is it? The hands look the same. But the eyes are yellow, and the nose is blue. The face looks different


The explanation is in the post

It's the commander 86 Prime with the head that came with comic Shockwave

Thanks! My apologies for not reading the post.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Razorbeast88 » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:59 pm

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TK415 wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:
TK415 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
TK415 wrote:What Prime is that under bumblebee?
The same Prime that's in every picture?

Is it? The hands look the same. But the eyes are yellow, and the nose is blue. The face looks different


The explanation is in the post

It's the commander 86 Prime with the head that came with comic Shockwave

Thanks! My apologies for not reading the post.


No worries! I don't always read myself, sometimes it's difficult to find the time and it's easier to just ask
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Dominus Prime » Wed Jul 17, 2024 1:06 am

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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Emerje » Wed Jul 17, 2024 1:37 am

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Emerje wrote:I guess I can see why they made Ultra Magnus so ridiculously oversized, but now I'm thinking the Dinobots are too small. #-o
The thing about Ultra Magnus that a lot of people don't realize is that he was a size-changer in the cartoon. Not as extreme as Megatron and Soundwave were, but when he transformed, he shrank when going from vehicle to robot mode. His truck cab was equal in size and shape to Optimus's, and his car carrier trailer was about the same size as Optimus's trailer; both of which were big enough to carry some of their smaller Autobot Car comrades. But in robot mode, the entirety of Ultra Magnus's combined cab-and-trailer robot mode was only a head taller than Optimus's cab-only robot mode.

So, it's a lose-lose situation when trying to make a toy of him: Either his vehicle mode ends up being too small in order to make his robot mode the right size, or his robot mode ends up being gargantuan (just like his original G1 toy) in order to make his vehicle mode big enough to accommodate Deluxe class Autobot Cars.

In a line that prides itself in bot scale, the form I'm going to display him in, I'd rather they stuck with that over a play feature. CC UM and Prime are now in their own scale that doesn't really fit with anything else.

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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Dino-Snarl » Wed Jul 17, 2024 1:49 am

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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby psxndc » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:48 am

-Crossfire- wrote:I love my ER Prime, but ooooooohhhhh this one fixes literally every single problem I had with that mold. I wonder if they'll do a single release like they did with Netflix OP.

I really want to do a four-pose diorama recreating the blast-off, transform, flip, and land-and-shoot. I can't justify buying four of these guys at this price point, and what am I going to do with three extra trailers? A single-figure release without the trailer would be amazing.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby -Kanrabat- » Wed Jul 17, 2024 4:44 am

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First-Aid wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:So, it's a lose-lose situation when trying to make a toy of him: Either his vehicle mode ends up being too small in order to make his robot mode the right size, or his robot mode ends up being gargantuan (just like his original G1 toy) in order to make his vehicle mode big enough to accommodate Deluxe class Autobot Cars.


About making an SS86 Astrotrain that can change into a vehicle of the right size?
So that his... transport functions are movie accurate?

:-?


So you want a toy that can Transform into a bot the equivalent size of Megatron, but can form a space shuttle big enough for SS86 Devastator to fit in it as well as almost the entire Decepticon cast? Yeah...laws of physics called...quoting Scotty...


Hell yeah!

And to complete the set, a Megatron that is the normal size in bot mode, but he can transform into a gun that can be held normally by other Generations figure.

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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Rtron » Wed Jul 17, 2024 10:06 am

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Oh man, this Optimus looks just perfect... It's 10/10. The only way to make him better I can think of is 5mm ports inside the trailer, to make it a bit more functional, and the jetpack he stole borrowed from Sideswipe and used in a few episodes, but that's it. The back pack doesn't seem that egregious to me either, it's just two or so flat panels on top of each other, very tidy affair it looks like. Optimus did have a sort of backpack in the character model anyway. I really hope I can eventually get my hands on this one, he looks amazing.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Sowndwave76 » Wed Jul 17, 2024 11:41 am

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I don't think the backpack is that bad.
Sure, it does stick out from the torso more than it should. Probably twice as much...
But I still don't think it totally ruins the profile silhouette.

In terms of the scale, this Optimus is on point. He's supposed to be much larger than the vast majority of other Autobots, minus a few exceptions; Blaster and Springer come to mind. I can totally admit my prediction about SS86 Springer's size was wrong... I thought he would end up being much closer to this CC Prime.

I don't think the Dinobots are too small. In fact, this new Prime looks like he'll be close to Swoop's height, and that's good imo.
Now, Ultra Magnus is too big. Probably close to a couple inches too tall, and his shoulders are too broad. But it's all understandable-- making the bot mode smaller would've made the trailer shorter and narrower. And that would have been annoying if a CC version was still too small to adequately hold/transport other vehicles.

I just really hope Hastak has cooked with the SS86 Megatron figure.
My expectations were already high, but now seeing CC Prime, along with the Siege Megatron mold being completely worn-out...
This new version needs to be completely on point.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby noctorro » Wed Jul 17, 2024 12:17 pm

This is glorious. The color, the proportions, he's excellent.
Yes backpack is a bit big but he's definitily an improvement over Earthrise Optimus.
And I considered that the ultimate Optimus that was possible for a mainline figure.

So, excellence, I do hope he's not a rubic's cube otherwise he will always get shot down in mid transformation.
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Re: Studio Series 86 Discussion

Postby Roadbuster » Wed Jul 17, 2024 12:40 pm

I might get him. I'll wait for the in-hand reviews before committing. Now... we wait for Megatron.
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