He took on his MP-10 body after G2, around the time when Megatron (in his then-new Leader class toy body) first left the JG1 world for the Legends World. So, this 2038 setting would be around that post-G2 time.ZeroWolf wrote:Aside from that confusing element the rest is pretty good, also which storyline was it when Prime returned to his g1 form instead of his star convoy body?
Well, that was all Ichikawa's doing back in that "Controverse" story. Sakamoto, here, is innocent on that one.Coptur wrote:I really don't like the convoluted story behind Wheeljack's revival, it could've been vastly streamlined without time travel/alt universes blah blah blah (no one mention Prowl either )
But then Vion, Lenja, and Igern wouldn't have been able to fool the other Autobots into letting them get as close to the Zodiac as they did before they tried to take it by force.Coptur wrote:Vio, len & Jiger should've been different colours once they took on the old Dai Atlas (& friends) bodies.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:He took on his MP-10 body after G2, around the time when Megatron (in his then-new Leader class toy body) first left the JG1 world for the Legends World. So, this 2038 setting would be around that post-G2 time.ZeroWolf wrote:Aside from that confusing element the rest is pretty good, also which storyline was it when Prime returned to his g1 form instead of his star convoy body?
Whereas he took on his Star Convoy body earlier during the still-undated time between 2025 (Victory) and 2035 (Operation Combination, United EX, and Metrowars), after the events of Zone that also took place somewhere during this decade.Well, that was all Ichikawa's doing back in that "Controverse" story. Sakamoto, here, is innocent on that one.Coptur wrote:I really don't like the convoluted story behind Wheeljack's revival, it could've been vastly streamlined without time travel/alt universes blah blah blah (no one mention Prowl either )
Coptur wrote:Vion, Lenja, and Igern should've been different colours once they took on the old Dai Atlas (& friends) bodies.Sabrblade wrote:But then Vion, Lenja, and Igern wouldn't have been able to fool the other Autobots into letting them get as close to the Zodiac as they did before they tried to take it by force.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Rattrap returns to the Axalon with the Monsterbots in tow and tells the other Legends World evacuees where and when they have landed, but the explanation is interrupted when a gigantic object enters Beast's atmosphere: the Nemesis, a giant starship constructed by Galvatron II to drain the planet of its Beast Power. Initially surprised by the ship's appearance in the wrong era, Leo Prime realizes that while he knew its creator was a "Galvatron", he had mistakenly assumed it to be his era's Galvatron. Galvatron deploys his Decepticon army and a battle breaks out when the now allied Beastformers and Laser Beasts arrive to defend their world, led by Queen White Lune who speaks of a prophecy claiming White Leo and Tigerburn will return during a great crisis. Indeed, the two break out of their crystal prison and join the fray, much to the joy of Doublecross who was unable to battle in robot mode without Leo as his Headmaster. Grotusque is similarly afflicted, so Lione voluntarily re-merges with Tigerburn to provide him with a head.
Elsewhere, Rattrap drops a potted plant in the chaos and scrambles to retrieve it, the pot containing the last remaining soil of the Legends World. He nearly gets stepped on by Jolt when the plant suddenly defends him with a force field, revealing that the planet's Beast Power has evolved her into a sentient being named Botanica, before kissing Rattrap as thanks for protecting her. The Nemesis begins absorbing Beast Power and transmitting it into Galvatron's Creation Matrix, much to the concern of Rattrap who believes the energy will be key to reviving the Legends World. As Repugnus's army of drones is blasted out of the sky by Galvatron when they try to attack the ship, the Legends natives resolve to lend a hand and launch aboard the Axalon, where Leo Prime employs Transformers sickness to awaken their inner beasts and transform them into their "true" Beast Era forms. The Axalon pierces the Nemesis and the powered up Legends warriors proceed to cause havoc within, culminating in Optimus Primal, Leo Prime, and Big Convoy destroying the ship's core with a Triple Beast Convoy Matrix Attack. Galvatron isn't overly dismayed by the ship crashing into the planet as his Matrix has already been filled with plenty of Beast Energy, and he turns his cannon on the defeated Monsterbots while gloating that he will first destroy the Autobots, much like he did in his original dimension, and then he will go on to conquer all dimensions. White Leo and Tigerburn remain defiant, but the Monsterbots are ready to accept their fate...
While completing the Dinobots on Earth in 1985, Wheeljack and Ratchet explain to Spike that without Vector Sigma they cannot create true robotic life, advising him to see the Dinobots as something akin to animals instead. Wheeljack goes on to create the Monsterbots in 2011, programming them to be stupid to ensure they won't go on a rampage, but by now he feels "animal" robots like them are the same type of lifeform as other Transformers, just less intelligent. Deemed unsuitable for combat because of their silly personalities, the Monsterbots end up stationed on Beast where they're treated as equals by the Beastformers, and over time they develop higher intelligences equal to other Transformers.
Voicing their gratitude, the Monsterbots remove their Beastformer Headmasters and toss them to safety before being blasted by Galvatron. Suddenly, three of Beast's mystical Gems appear and speak, praising the Monsterbots' selfless spirits before transforming into their true forms—the legendary Three Wise Ones! Recognizing that their power is needed to protect Beast, they adopt robotic forms, transform into mechanical versions of the gems and combine with the Monsterbots, announcing that the time for "true evolution" has come.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Rattrap returns to the Axalon with the Monsterbots in tow and tells the other Legends World evacuees where and when they have landed, but the explanation is interrupted when a gigantic object enters Beast's atmosphere: the Nemesis, a giant starship constructed by Galvatron II to drain the planet of its Beast Power. Initially surprised by the ship's appearance in the wrong era, Leo Prime realizes that while he knew its creator was a "Galvatron", he had mistakenly assumed it to be his era's Galvatron. Galvatron deploys his Decepticon army and a battle breaks out when the now allied Beastformers and Laser Beasts arrive to defend their world, led by Queen White Lune who speaks of a prophecy claiming White Leo and Tigerburn will return during a great crisis. Indeed, the two break out of their crystal prison and join the fray, much to the joy of Doublecross who was unable to battle in robot mode without Leo as his Headmaster. Grotusque is similarly afflicted, so Lione voluntarily re-merges with Tigerburn to provide him with a head.
Elsewhere, Rattrap drops a potted plant in the chaos and scrambles to retrieve it, the pot containing the last remaining soil of the Legends World. He nearly gets stepped on by Jolt when the plant suddenly defends him with a force field, revealing that the planet's Beast Power has evolved her into a sentient being named Botanica, before kissing Rattrap as thanks for protecting her. The Nemesis begins absorbing Beast Power and transmitting it into Galvatron's Creation Matrix, much to the concern of Rattrap who believes the energy will be key to reviving the Legends World. As Repugnus's army of drones is blasted out of the sky by Galvatron when they try to attack the ship, the Legends natives resolve to lend a hand and launch aboard the Axalon, where Leo Prime employs Transformers sickness to awaken their inner beasts and transform them into their "true" Beast Era forms. The Axalon pierces the Nemesis and the powered up Legends warriors proceed to cause havoc within, culminating in Optimus Primal, Leo Prime, and Big Convoy destroying the ship's core with a Triple Beast Convoy Matrix Attack. Galvatron isn't overly dismayed by the ship crashing into the planet as his Matrix has already been filled with plenty of Beast Energy, and he turns his cannon on the defeated Monsterbots while gloating that he will first destroy the Autobots, much like he did in his original dimension, and then he will go on to conquer all dimensions. White Leo and Tigerburn remain defiant, but the Monsterbots are ready to accept their fate...
While completing the Dinobots on Earth in 1985, Wheeljack and Ratchet explain to Spike that without Vector Sigma they cannot create true robotic life, advising him to see the Dinobots as something akin to animals instead. Wheeljack goes on to create the Monsterbots in 2011, programming them to be stupid to ensure they won't go on a rampage, but by now he feels "animal" robots like them are the same type of lifeform as other Transformers, just less intelligent. Deemed unsuitable for combat because of their silly personalities, the Monsterbots end up stationed on Beast where they're treated as equals by the Beastformers, and over time they develop higher intelligences equal to other Transformers.
Voicing their gratitude, the Monsterbots remove their Beastformer Headmasters and toss them to safety before being blasted by Galvatron. Suddenly, three of Beast's mystical Gems appear and speak, praising the Monsterbots' selfless spirits before transforming into their true forms—the legendary Three Wise Ones! Recognizing that their power is needed to protect Beast, they adopt robotic forms, transform into mechanical versions of the gems and combine with the Monsterbots, announcing that the time for "true evolution" has come.
TrypticonCarne wrote:not really, yours doesnt have the sticker sheet i bet from the ehobby version, that includes those weird lines
Nathaniel Prime wrote:TrypticonCarne wrote:not really, yours doesnt have the sticker sheet i bet from the ehobby version, that includes those weird lines
My avatar is just G1 Galvatron in G1 toy colors, with blue eyes and an Autobot symbol instead of a Decepticon one
TrypticonCarne wrote:Nathaniel Prime wrote:TrypticonCarne wrote:not really, yours doesnt have the sticker sheet i bet from the ehobby version, that includes those weird lines
My avatar is just G1 Galvatron in G1 toy colors, with blue eyes and an Autobot symbol instead of a Decepticon one
What avatar?
It's Galvatron II.Nathaniel Prime wrote:Hey!
*points at G1 Toy Galvatron
I'm in the comic!
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:It's Galvatron II.Nathaniel Prime wrote:Hey!
*points at G1 Toy Galvatron
I'm in the comic!
Sabrblade wrote:It's the year 2038 of the G1 World, during the G2 Era when Galvatron II is still in command of the Decepticons.
Sabrblade wrote:since "Destron" in Japan refers to both the Decepticons of G1/G2 and the Predacons of the Beast Era, I guess Sakamoto can get away with the term being indistinguishable between the two generations of 'Cons. Though, from our Western perspective, this now means that Nemesis wasn't built by Predacon science, but by Decepticon science.
^ Said weapons are those that were to have been part of a plan for reissues of the Cyberjets that Takara was planning way back in 1995, which would have all new weapons retooled onto their arms. But, this plan never come to pass, leaving these weapon retools ultimately unreleased. Anyway,Sabrblade wrote:The G2 Decepticon Dreadwing fights... with a new mode, the Dread Roadblock Mode, which resembles a sort of base mode or artillery platform. The Cyberjets likewise show off a new Power Up with more weapons.
Sabrblade wrote:White Leo becomes Doublecross's head for the first time in 15 years, while Tigerburn merges once more with the Headmaster Warrior Lione (this time in in a mutual willingness) and becomes a new head for Grotusque (since Platinum Tiger is still secluded back inside the Holography Mirror from two chapters ago).
Sabrblade wrote:Repugnus and Hedgehog arrive with an army of Repug Armors, now called "KoRepugs" ("Ko-" being a Japanese prefix referring to small, cute, or baby things, like "neko" means "cat" while "koneko" means "kitten"), and sends each KoRepug up to engage Nemesis,
Sabrblade wrote:Leo Prime crosses his arms (doing the same pose as the Headmaster Juniors and Godmasters from Masterforce when they would turn from human form into armored suit form yelling "Masterforce!")
Sabrblade wrote:a "Triple Beast Convoy Matrix Attack"... appears to fully cripple Nemesis for good (but if this all still takes place before its appearance in Beast Wars Second, then that means that it's gotta be fixed later on for the events of that cartoon to still happen).
Sabrblade wrote:Galvatron... recalls how he had previously defeated the Autobots back in his own reality, complete with a flashback panel showing the dead Rodimus Prime strung up between the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center (as seen back in the Marvel G1 issue "Rhythms of Darkness!").
Sabrblade wrote:...the creation of the Dinobots in 1985 (G1 seasons 1 and 2 both took place in 1985 in Japan since they were one long run of episodes instead of two separate seasons spanning 1984-1985 like they were in the West),
Sabrblade wrote:Then we see the Monsterbots being built by Perceptor and the second Wheeljack (the first Wheeljack died in TFTM, this second one came to this world from the Binaltech world) in 2011 during early on in The Headmasters since Rodimus Prime is back in command at this time.
Sabrblade wrote:...the Monsterbots, whose bodies get fried by Galvatron (fitting, since the dialogue refers to them by their Japanese name of "Firebots").
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Albatross250 wrote:That was surprising. Those Prime masters originally appeared in the Power of the Primes toyline.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Looking at the news post, I just realized... What's that 27 doing in the title?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Oh neat, I didn't catch that the Monsterbots and their Beastformer partners are now Getmasters. Cool.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Anyone who made fan modes with Repugnus' and Grotusque's Beast Mode heads in Robot Mode should be feeling really good now, as it's now canon! By placing the Headmaster Beastformer in the cockpit (Get On!), tweaking the chest panels on Repugnus and folding over the claws on Grotusque, in addition to using that Beast Head, one can create the "Beastformer Mode".
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Oh neat, I didn't catch that the Monsterbots and their Beastformer partners are now Getmasters. Cool.JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Anyone who made fan modes with Repugnus' and Grotusque's Beast Mode heads in Robot Mode should be feeling really good now, as it's now canon! By placing the Headmaster Beastformer in the cockpit (Get On!), tweaking the chest panels on Repugnus and folding over the claws on Grotusque, in addition to using that Beast Head, one can create the "Beastformer Mode".
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