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News Credits: 2 · by **Hero Alpha** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:42 pm

Optimus actually looks better in these shots. I still like Motormaster way better though. Pretty happy that they will start in DEC, didn't expect that and the box art and whole packages are sweet looking, some of the best Transformers boxes yet.

News Credits: 1 · by **MightyMagnus78** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:48 pm

Dear Primus, what have they done to you Optimus? :SICK:

by **RAcast** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:53 pm

MightyMagnus78 wrote:Dear Primus, what have they done to you Optimus?

They retooled him from Motormaster, what do you want? :lol:

The mold was never meant for him.

News Credits: 6 · by **MemphisR56** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:14 pm

MightyMagnus78 wrote:Dear Primus, what have they done to you Optimus?

Steroids are a cruel mistress

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:17 pm

MemphisR56 wrote:
MightyMagnus78 wrote:Dear Primus, what have they done to you Optimus?

Steroids are a cruel mistress

No kidding. Look what that b!tch did to the Movie Universe.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:45 pm

I can't wait till they update primes look in the comics, I wonder if they'll comment on prime and motormaster being mold buddies.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:49 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:I can't wait till they update primes look in the comics, I wonder if they'll comment on prime and motormaster being mold buddies.

They're Cuzins. :lol:

Do we know yet, are the comics ting in with per-existing titles, or is this going to be a whole new series?

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:56 pm

The main comic (was robots in disguise, now just the transformers) has been setting up combiner wars for a little while. They introduced alpha bravo in Septembers issue.

so I think it kicks off in the comics in January (may be December not sure)

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:13 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:The main comic (was robots in disguise, now just the transformers) has been setting up combiner wars for a little while. They introduced alpha bravo in Septembers issue. so I think it kicks off in the comics in January (may be December not sure)

Cool. I'm trying so hard to catch up right now, I don't think I can handle a new series.

News Credits: 113 · by **megatronus** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:45 pm

ScottyP wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Well, Scotty, hopefully you've had some coffee and some cartoons by now. Hope your day gets better.
The GOOD news is, next podcast should be a good one. Plenty to talk about while breaking in that new host.
Cheers!

Hehe, we already recorded the next one and guess whose Skype didn't play nice during the Combiner Wars talk? This guy. This guy's network decided to not cooperate At least I got my comic thoughts in! Really need to upgrade our technology.

Back on topic - I have had some caffeine and am slightly less irritated by these toys now. Maybe these can be a gateway back towards some semi-high end mass retail stuff.

Let's hope the Skype issues don't result in a string of people-talking-simultaneously-followed-by-awkward-silence type moments.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 6:58 pm

megatronus wrote:
ScottyP wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Well, Scotty, hopefully you've had some coffee and some cartoons by now. Hope your day gets better.
The GOOD news is, next podcast should be a good one. Plenty to talk about while breaking in that new host.
Cheers!

Hehe, we already recorded the next one and guess whose Skype didn't play nice during the Combiner Wars talk? This guy. This guy's network decided to not cooperate At least I got my comic thoughts in! Really need to upgrade our technology.

Back on topic - I have had some caffeine and am slightly less irritated by these toys now. Maybe these can be a gateway back towards some semi-high end mass retail stuff.

Let's hope the Skype issues don't result in a string of people-talking-simultaneously-followed-by-awkward-silence type moments.

by **Peridot** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:44 pm

Holy crap, December! They might be out in time for Christmas! YES! THIS IS EXCELLENT! :DANCE:

News Credits: 440 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:47 pm

Don't forget that it's the December/January wave that most retails like to stock very little of or skip altogether. Remember last year's wave of Waspinator/Goldfire/Dreadwing/Skids?

Hopefully the inclusion of a brand new Optimus Prime is a sign that they'll stock plenty of this wave.

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:53 pm

shajaki wrote:however, you can almost be guaranteed that the final members of each team will NOT be exclusives. since theyve already been solicited/shown to us. and that would just be cruel on a level even hasbro wouldnt go to.

What I meant was that the fourth jet aerialbot (whoever Alpha Bravo is replacing, I can't remember the Aerialbots' names to save my life) may be an exclusive of some sort. I know we're getting a fourth Aerialbot limb in wave two with the other Stunticons, but I was speculating that there's probably a future for the character everybody is whining about not having in this series.

News Credits: 6 · by **TulioDude** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:14 pm

Optimus is looking much better in these photos.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:42 pm

padfoo wrote:And while I like Silverbolt in my opinion the universe version that came out several years ago looks better. Maybe he's just mis-transformed because he looks nothing like his box art.

I like the bot mode (though I agree that the Universe version is better, bought all three Hasbro versions of the mold), but that jet mode has got to go. It does seem to be miss-transformed, but the proper transformation doesn't look any better underneath. The black parts on his knees are supposed to fold down and reveal pegs for the hands to grab in jet mode. It really just stabilizes the arms and lets them bend a little more, but overall it's still just a big jet with a giant box underneath it.

If Devistator happens I really hope he's very G1 looking so I can stick him in with MPs like with Blitzwing.

I still think Prime looks like he's been G2'd which is fine with me, he and four friends can fight my Generations G2 Combaticions set into oblivion.

Emerje

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 9:59 pm

Silverbolt 08 was good, but he didn't have to form a combiner torso and he wasn't trying to be slavishly G1.

by **RAcast** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 10:03 pm

Emerje wrote:
padfoo wrote:And while I like Silverbolt in my opinion the universe version that came out several years ago looks better. Maybe he's just mis-transformed because he looks nothing like his box art.

I like the bot mode (though I agree that the Universe version is better, bought all three Hasbro versions of the mold), but that jet mode has got to go. It does seem to be miss-transformed, but the proper transformation doesn't look any better underneath. The black parts on his knees are supposed to fold down and reveal pegs for the hands to grab in jet mode. It really just stabilizes the arms and lets them bend a little more, but overall it's still just a big jet with a giant box underneath it.

[snip]

Emerje

To be fair, isn't that what Silverbolt has always been, Universe Mold included? Also, the CW alt mode is pretty darn G1 accurate, you definitely can't argue about that. :lol:

News Credits: 7 · by **Noideaforaname** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:36 pm

You'd think after 30 years they'd have figured a better way to hide the bot mode...

News Credits: 113 · by **megatronus** » Sat Nov 15, 2014 11:40 pm

Noideaforaname wrote:You'd think after 30 years they'd have figured a better way to hide the bot mode...

Unless the hopefully detailed and textured front of the robot can be made to look like the sleek bottom of a jet, it's hard to see how that could work.

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:21 am

megatronus wrote:
Noideaforaname wrote:You'd think after 30 years they'd have figured a better way to hide the bot mode...

Unless the hopefully detailed and textured front of the robot can be made to look like the sleek bottom of a jet, it's hard to see how that could work.

I mean, they could do it Masterpiece Seeker style where everything folds into the fuselage, but that takes a lot of moving parts. Probably more than they can justify on a voyager.

News Credits: 2 · by **BERSEKAEL** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:54 am

padfoo wrote: Maybe he's just mis-transformed because he looks nothing like his box art.

I think he is mis-transformed, in the video he shows those wings folded backwards, and seems to fold the front of his airplane mode as well instead of hanging down... aside that the art on the box shows a different paint app and those wings and front are pointing up.

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:59 am

The card art is art that was made for the Transformers Legends mobile card game, it was made before this figure was conceived I believe. Most of the early Legends art is just based on a mix of the G1 toys and animation models. If you notice, the artwork on the actual box is different and is actually a drawing of the toy.

News Credits: 7 · by **Zeedust** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:10 am

Noideaforaname wrote:You'd think after 30 years they'd have figured a better way to hide the bot mode...

Unless they could do that AND still make it a slavish G1 immitation, people would still whine.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:43 am

We're a fan base that no one can please

In all seriousness comparing silverbolt to his ultra mold is futile, as people have pointed out, that one wasn't meant to combine and I recall a lot of people not liking it when it was first released, talking about a lot of the same issues here. Personally my silverbolt will be n torso mode all the time anyway