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blackeyedprime wrote:

o.supreme wrote:
The point still stands, when you ask Transformers fans "what is the Nemesis" the image that comes to mind is:

But when you ask hasbro.... it's just the guns that come with WFC galvatron

Did Hasbro ever call them the Nemesis?

I have been thinking and since it's SS86, Magnus could be a White Prime version of the ER OP mold as the base with some changes, sporting a Matrix Chamber and a trailer closed to the cartoon and original toy with more parts to cover the cab and opening and closing hands so eh can hold the Matrix. Another thing they could do is have it where he can disassemble as a nod to being blown apart in the movie.

But that's still not enough to get me. I got two already.

At this point, SS86 Springer is a given. They'll just tidy up the Siege toy, probably give him a better sword as well. Would be nice if they included a tool-in wrist laser cannon.

I'm looking forward to Armada Optimus, and I may also get the Nemesis as well to go alongside my Ark. I'm guessing the "BB SS Deluxe" listings are the Hound and Hatchet we saw a while ago, if indeed they're still coming out, or perhaps Hound is part of the "BB SS TF-86 2 Pack", maybe with a Sunstreaker repaint? While it's nice that Studio Series is getting the Commander Class, I'm happy with my Kingdom Ultra Magnus and have no desire for another one.

ZeroWolf wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:

o.supreme wrote:
The point still stands, when you ask Transformers fans "what is the Nemesis" the image that comes to mind is:

But when you ask hasbro.... it's just the guns that come with WFC galvatron

Did Hasbro ever call them the Nemesis?

Probably not considering they’re actually based on Galvatron’s ship the Revenge, not the Nemesis.

blackeyedprime wrote:

o.supreme wrote:
The point still stands, when you ask Transformers fans "what is the Nemesis" the image that comes to mind is:

But when you ask hasbro.... it's just the guns that come with WFC galvatron

Those were molded to resemble The Revenge however, not The Nemesis

that makes more sense thanks.

Buster Claus wrote:I have been thinking and since it's SS86, Magnus could be a White Prime version of the ER OP mold as the base with some changes, sporting a Matrix Chamber and a trailer closed to the cartoon and original toy with more parts to cover the cab and opening and closing hands so eh can hold the Matrix. Another thing they could do is have it where he can disassemble as a nod to being blown apart in the movie.

But that's still not enough to get me. I got two already.

At this point, SS86 Springer is a given. They'll just tidy up the Siege toy, probably give him a better sword as well. Would be nice if they included a tool-in wrist laser cannon.

Doubtful for the animation accurate line to go the white Prime route

The chance of me not getting Commander Class Ultra Magnus is zero. Even if I think they're going back to the well a bit too much.

sol magnus wrote:

Even more sold on this guy now. Definitely getting 2 of this mold, just not sure if I want skyquake and dreadwing or dreadwing and one of the other inevitable uses of the mold. Looks awesome though

For those of you wondering "Why has my local Target not recieved any Wave 2 Deluxe" ? well...

They could have been inept like the employees at my local store, and only had 1 peg dedicated to Legacy deluxe (which had only 4 Elita-1 for nearly a month), and instead of moving pegs to get more product out, which is normal, they just sat on product until the few they had out moved or...

UNTIL... Probably ordered from higher up...Now that there are sales, they are forced to put out everything they've been sitting on. See the pic my daughter just took below. If you are still waiting for wave 2 to arrive in your area, it might be worth checking now.

I'm very down for a Titan class Nemesis to fight the Ark. But wasn't the head revealed a while ago?

https://news.tfw2005.com/wp-content/upl ... Art-01.jpg

I'm excited for the collabs. I love those. I hope it's not the Street Fighter ones. I just ordered some off ebay.

86 Ultra Magus ... I'm really starting to hate that I bought any version of the Kingdom mold now. They have to do these characters right the first the. Not the second or the third time!

Sabrblade wrote:Wait, I just realized, why are we talking about a Studio Series figure in the Legacy thread?

All the listings are in this thread.

TulioDude wrote:Armada Prime is coming!
With Starscream out and and a rumored Megatron in the future, I'm hyped!

Day 1088 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

I was wondering what your reaction would be

I'm thrilled with that in particular as well. It would be awesome to have an Armada super mode prime with.....





...knee joints! (GASP!)

First-Aid wrote:I'm thrilled with that in particular as well. It would be awesome to have an Armada super mode prime with.....





...knee joints! (GASP!)

Now now, let's not get ahead of ourselves here

Usually Emgo is good for pointing out odd design choices on toys. He totaly missed "Space Rabbit" on Tarn

o.supreme wrote:Also, it appears there are at least 2 more selects coming besides the Omega Sentinel. They appear to be deluxes if my CAD prices are correct. All the Diaclone updates have been nice, but it would be nice to see something different as well.

These two, perhaps?

Those arent Deluxe sized

ZeroWolf wrote:Those arent Deluxe sized

True. But are they just being pragmatic in making them Deluxe? Two very obscure redecos/minor retools might not sell for Titan Class pricing. How many would buy a Spreem that big?

To be honest, as far as Spreem is concerned. I saw Selects potential in this one:

I wonder why Skyquake first over Dreadwing in this line?

Ooh, not only is SG still a thing but we're getting my most-wanted character from it? Count me in.
Femme Nemesis may be something I purchase depending on how the figure looks.
WFC Infantry is surprisingly exciting to me.
Everything else is either something I'm gonna skip or too vague a listing to figure out.

Some clarifications, courtesy of JTPrime posts that I've filed through:
-2 of the BB SS Deluxes are just Hound and Hatchet
-The BB SS 2-pack should be a Deluxe and a Voyager based off pricing
-One of those collabs should be a GI Joe Soundwave in line with the recent Megs & Bee

o.supreme wrote:Also, it appears there are at least 2 more selects coming besides the Omega Sentinel. They appear to be deluxes if my CAD prices are correct. All the Diaclone updates have been nice, but it would be nice to see something different as well.

-One of those is just Magnificus and the other may be Medix.

Additionally, while not really related to any of these listings, JTPrime also said that the Legacy capsule line that contains G2 Grimlock seems to be intended to be sold at a retailer with brick-and-mortar presence, which all but confirms it's gonna be Walmart's replacement/follow-up to Velocitron.

Overcracker wrote:While I can understand it being SS-86 Magnus, part of me wonders if Hasbro isn't doing an actual SS-86 Prime in Commander Class. By all accounts Earthrise Prime is pretty much SS-86 Prime, but one can argue the same thing about Kingdom Magnus.

I slightly disagree. The mechanics of Prime and Magnus would be different, if either or both were done in commander class. Prime would still be Prime (Probably wouldn't even change the base bot, it's pretty spot-on) but the trailer would be spruced up a lot, to the point it would function as his death bed from the infamous movie scene.

Magnus on the other hand would be a bigger, better, G1-ified CW Magnus, where the trailer would not separate from the cab, it would just all transform together. With a trailer that's actually big enough to carry the deluxe cars. That kind of engineering and parts count would warrant the commander price.

Having said that, I still like Kingdom Magnus very much and he's currently on my movie shelf, but he needs to be taller to be in accurate scale with everyone else.

A commander Magnus would make sense as a pretool to the next Powermaster Prime, assuming Hasbro doesn't feel that the market is saturated with Armada Prime on the way.

I still think a proper Astrotrain can be achieved in commander class. The higher price point would help both the design and the scale.

ZeroWolf wrote:Doubtful for the animation accurate line to go the white Prime route

On one hand this would be in line with the rest of SS86. On the other is there any reason for Ultra Magnus to be a Commander class if it just went straight from truck to big robot? Can't really imagine them justifying the class change while giving us less than what we got from WFC. I think we'll be getting the white Prime cab, but it won't be necessary to get him into bot mode to make Ultra Magnus. More like PM Optimus Prime than WFC white Prime covered in armor.

Nemesis Destron wrote:I wonder why Skyquake first over Dreadwing in this line?

Because he was in the show first and it puts more distance between it and a potential later SS G1 Skyquake.

o.supreme wrote:Usually Emgo is good for pointing out odd design choices on toys. He totaly missed "Space Rabbit" on Tarn

You jerk, now I can't unsee it!

o.supreme wrote:For those of you wondering "Why has my local Target not recieved any Wave 2 Deluxe" ? well...

They could have been inept like the employees at my local store, and only had 1 peg dedicated to Legacy deluxe (which had only 4 Elita-1 for nearly a month), and instead of moving pegs to get more product out, which is normal, they just sat on product until the few they had out moved or...

UNTIL... Probably ordered from higher up...Now that there are sales, they are forced to put out everything they've been sitting on. See the pic my daughter just took below. If you are still waiting for wave 2 to arrive in your area, it might be worth checking now.

But it's the higher ups at corporate that decide how the pegs are laid out and what goes on them, not the employees. And it's someone higher up in the store that decides what's ordered and comes out of the stock room. I think your anger is misguided by blaming employees.

Sabrblade wrote:Wait, I just realized, why are we talking about a Studio Series figure in the Legacy thread?

Because Will put everything into one post with Legacy Commander Optimus Prime and Titan Nemesis as the big news talking point. He's now posted the same list elsewhere.

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