o.supreme wrote:william-james88 wrote:That means having all 3 seekers would mean a parent spends the equivalent of $100 for their kid. Thats a **** ton of money for parents trying to make ends meet with a mortgage and kids on just 3 airplanes that look the same. Whoever had 3 seekers growing up in the 80s is luckier then they could ever realize.
So once again, there is little to no point in this comparison.
True, I remember being the "poor" kid, though my grandparents did spoil a bit, being one of only two grandchildren. Unfortunately I had friends with parents who were generally more well-off than myself, so yeah, they got all the cool toys. Transformers were more expensive to be sure when compared with todays prices, but they were also made of much higher quality materials overall, especially they 1984-1986 lines. Definitely made of "sterner stuff" .
Skritz wrote:Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:Yeah, it was 10 years ago. And we have it better than most. I remember Marvel legends being 10$ and now its nuts, especially for what you get. I remember their build a figure being Galactus and a Sentinel, not another 6 inch figure.
That's about as good an example as any of the difference between licensing your characters and making your own. Marvel Legends' higher prices and smaller BAFs are a direct result of the higher license fees that came with their exploding popularity. Meanwhile Transformers don't have a licensing fee (outside of the occasional car) so what they want to do is only limited by how much they want to charge us.
Emerje
Aren't Transformers costlier to design/build/assemble due to all the smaller pieces that move to allow for transformations, compared to a simpler action figure with only a few points of articulation?
william-james88 wrote:Also, the poil prices people are quoting have nothing to do with the oil used to make these toys. Hasbro has told us time and time again that its the resin cost that matters, not oil costs. The oil prices are the ones used for fuel and for your car to drive. Resin however is a synthetic using a different type of oil (not fuel) and its the labour costs that go into making this resin which is the biggest factor. So not necessarily the fluctuation in the organic source.
Plastics are typically organic polymers of high molecular mass, but they often contain other substances. They are usually synthetic, most commonly derived from petrochemicals, but many are made from renewable materials such as polylactic acid from corn or cellulosics from cotton linters.
The two most common petrochemical classes are olefins (including ethylene and propylene) and aromatics (including benzene, toluene and xylene isomers). [...] Olefins are the basis for polymers and oligomers used in plastics, resins, fibers, elastomers, lubricants, and gels.[...] Olefins includes ethylene, propylene, and butadiene. Ethylene and propylene are important sources of industrial chemicals and plastics products. Butadiene is used in making synthetic rubber.
When the cost of oil goes up, production costs are increased and profits reduced for industries that depend on oil. Producer costs — not consumer gasoline costs — are the reason high oil prices threaten to shrink industrial production of goods directly affected and also of energy-intensive products such as aluminum and paper.
william-james88 wrote:Thanks Emerje, sorry I mistook the crude oil price you were showing for the fuel prices (what we see at gaz stations).
And just for reference, here is when Hasbro mentioned resin instead of crude oil when it comes to rising material costs:
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... -up/34229/
I enjoyed the financial slides. Interesting bit on 61 about slightly increasing resin costs expected for 2016.
Madeus Prime wrote:He has both symbols...? Huh, well, I guess his armor is Decepticon made for his SG Autobot self.
GrandGalvatronG1 wrote:Madeus Prime wrote:He has both symbols...? Huh, well, I guess his armor is Decepticon made for his SG Autobot self.
Im more surprised by his matrix core being pitch black
Madeus Prime wrote:GrandGalvatronG1 wrote:Madeus Prime wrote:He has both symbols...? Huh, well, I guess his armor is Decepticon made for his SG Autobot self.
Im more surprised by his matrix core being pitch black
Looks like it is black with two touches of purple and a translucent red core.
Madeus Prime wrote:He has both symbols...? Huh, well, I guess his armor is Decepticon made for his SG Autobot self.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:John Warden denied his being SG Rodimus the Character at NYCC.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Skritz wrote:Sabrblade wrote:John Warden denied his being SG Rodimus the Character at NYCC.
Sure. This just so happen to be an evil Rodimus. Who has Motormaster colors. And a purple Autobot logo . And a goatee. Sure. Totally unrelated to that SG Rodimus.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
GrandGalvatronG1 wrote:ATTENTION!
Rodimus unicronus is found on Toysrus.Ca website
http://www.toysrus.ca/product/index.jsp ... =138351396
Yeah, this is just another case like Energon Downshift being based on G1 Wheeljack (even being named "Wheeljack" in Super Link) without actually being G1 Wheeljack.Hellscream9999 wrote:Skritz wrote:Sabrblade wrote:John Warden denied his being SG Rodimus the Character at NYCC.
Sure. This just so happen to be an evil Rodimus. Who has Motormaster colors. And a purple Autobot logo . And a goatee. Sure. Totally unrelated to that SG Rodimus.
We'll just call it an homage and call it a day
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
GrandGalvatronG1 wrote:Madeus Prime wrote:GrandGalvatronG1 wrote:Madeus Prime wrote:He has both symbols...? Huh, well, I guess his armor is Decepticon made for his SG Autobot self.
Im more surprised by his matrix core being pitch black
Looks like it is black with two touches of purple and a translucent red core.
ah i see the purple, looks less dumb than I thought,
amazing how he has both faction symbols it seems,
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