william-james88 wrote:I 100% agree with that. But that is no different from RID Sideswipe and Bumblebee being totally different from their G1 namesakes.
Bumblebee I'll give you due to the heavy influence Movie Bee has made to the whole Bumblebee character type, but Sideswipe? I'd argue that he's much more like what was described in the original G1 profile of Sideswipe than any version of G1 Sideswipe has been fictionally depicted.
Moreso in what G1 Sideswipe's Dreamwave MTMTE profile describes:
The only real difference personality-wise is that the Sideswipe described in these profiles is past the point of maturity in which he grew up and changed his ways, whereas RID 2015 Sideswipe has not reached that point in his life yet, being more like what the Sideswipe in these profiles used to be.
And yet, no version of G1 Sideswipe has really gotten to display all that much of the "brash, loosely-obedient, crafty rebel"-type described in these profiles, while RID Sideswipe is all about that character type.
Not to mention there's RID 2015 Sideswipe's whole deal with being a red Lamborghini-type vehicle with the hood forming the robot mode chest (in the show, at least), which was G1 Sideswipe's most iconic visual detail.
william-james88 wrote:The whole point is that Kurona said that all the decepticons were new and original characters not taking cues from anything, which isnt the case. RID Kickback is a reimagining of G1 kickback just as much as RID Sidewipe and Bumblebee are reminaginings of G1 Sideswipe and Bumblebee. So by saying that they are all original, then you set up a totality and end the point of this discussion. If its all original, then why do we even bother comparing any of them?! Many cons in RID are fully original, with no thematic connections to previous characters in Transformers lore, but not all of them.
I've already made my argument for Sideswipe, but since Bumblebee is based more on his Movie counterpart than otherwise, that makes Bee not as "new and original" as the Decepticons Kurona was describing.
Really, the only thing RID Kickback has in common with G1 Kickback is the grasshopper connection, but even that is only a loose connection since the two grasshoppers look nothing alike beyond the general grasshopper silhouette, as the colors are all different and one has a grasshopper altmode while the other has a grasshopper robot mode (and a dragster altmode). And their personalities are completely dissimilar, and RID Kickback doesn't even have any known ties to the Insecticons.
By that logic, you might as well compare Armada and G1 Blurr for their both being cars.