A point not even hinted at by the movie, as no one would know about it if not for the toy bio saying so.conbot3 wrote:To be fair Drift was a Decepticon before joiming the Autobots
A point not even hinted at by the movie, as no one would know about it if not for the toy bio saying so.conbot3 wrote:To be fair Drift was a Decepticon before joiming the Autobots
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:A point not even hinted at by the movie, as no one would know about it if not for the toy bio saying so.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
A game whose story had jack all to do with the movie it was meant to tie in with (thanks to Bay forbidding any licensees from seeing the movie's script prior to the film's release).Deadput wrote:Sabrblade wrote:A point not even hinted at by the movie, as no one would know about it if not for the toy bio saying so.
Rise of the dark spark states he was a former con as well it's one of those all but confirmed things.
None of those other Drifts matter to the content of the AOE movie.Deadput wrote:Plus every other Drift ever has been a former con and I'm pretty sure it's intentional I mean remember brains he is also a former con according to the prequel comics yet it's not stated in the film itself.
(Yes Rid Drift is a former con too just not stated in the show it's in a book)
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
conbot3 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:No, it's how he was played. He was given an exaggerated accent (Ken Watanabe does not sound in real life quite like how Drift sounded), he used Japanese terms that Americans know but only used them out of their proper meaning because of how pop culture has constantly used those terms incorrectly, he presented himself as a well-behaved bot of honor yet kept doing lot of disrespectful and dishonorable things throughout the movie, he spoke proverbs for no reason other than his having a Japanese motif as said proverbs never fit the context of the situations in which he spoke them and which only incited ill reactions from his teammates (particularly Crosshairs)... Drift is a far cry from a respective representation of a Japanese Samurai character. Beast Wars Dinobot, or even the character-less Swordbot Samurai Team members from Transformers Go!, were far more accurate expressions of how an actual Samurai would be like.SlyTF1 wrote:So, because he's a samurai played by a Japanese guy, he's obviously a stereotype. Right.
To be fair Drift was a Decepticon before joiming the Autobots so perhaps he hasn't had time to worry about the true meaning of honour!
conbot3 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:No, it's how he was played. He was given an exaggerated accent (Ken Watanabe does not sound in real life quite like how Drift sounded), he used Japanese terms that Americans know but only used them out of their proper meaning because of how pop culture has constantly used those terms incorrectly, he presented himself as a well-behaved bot of honor yet kept doing lot of disrespectful and dishonorable things throughout the movie, he spoke proverbs for no reason other than his having a Japanese motif as said proverbs never fit the context of the situations in which he spoke them and which only incited ill reactions from his teammates (particularly Crosshairs)... Drift is a far cry from a respective representation of a Japanese Samurai character. Beast Wars Dinobot, or even the character-less <a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?toolid=11600&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=smart&icep_ff3=9&icep_uq=transformers%20swordbot&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg" class="epn-link" target="_blank" id="epn8">Swordbot</a> Samurai Team members from <a href="http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?toolid=11600&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=smart&icep_ff3=9&icep_uq=transformers%20go&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg" class="epn-link" target="_blank" id="epn7">Transformers Go</a>!, were far more accurate expressions of how an actual Samurai would be like.SlyTF1 wrote:So, because he's a samurai played by a Japanese guy, he's obviously a stereotype. Right.
So was wheelie and jetfire
To be fair Drift was a Decepticon before joiming the Autobots so perhaps he hasn't had time to worry about the true meaning of honour!
Kurona wrote:Well yes, but the point is that it's a point not addressed in the movie itself - hence most viewers will not know of it. You have to dig into extra material to know this particular character trait.
Deadput wrote:Unicron is the worst thing they could do especially since he is a one dimension character from the start
SlyTF1 wrote:Kurona wrote:Well yes, but the point is that it's a point not addressed in the movie itself - hence most viewers will not know of it. You have to dig into extra material to know this particular character trait.
That's what I like about the movies. You have to work for answers.
Precisely!JazZeke wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Kurona wrote:Well yes, but the point is that it's a point not addressed in the movie itself - hence most viewers will not know of it. You have to dig into extra material to know this particular character trait.
That's what I like about the movies. You have to work for answers.
And I consider that the essence of bad storytelling. A movie should provide all the relevant information to the audience within itself; audiences should not be expected to do homework or buy tie-in material to understand what is going on. When I buy a movie ticket, I expect to be paying for a whole story, not just part of a story.
Especially if said tie-in material isn't even written by the screenwriters, but left to other writers to clear up. That is the very definition of laziness.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
JazZeke wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Kurona wrote:Well yes, but the point is that it's a point not addressed in the movie itself - hence most viewers will not know of it. You have to dig into extra material to know this particular character trait.
That's what I like about the movies. You have to work for answers.
And I consider that the essence of bad storytelling. A movie should provide all the relevant information to the audience within itself; audiences should not be expected to do homework or buy tie-in material to understand what is going on. When I buy a movie ticket, I expect to be paying for a whole story, not just part of a story.
Especially if said tie-in material isn't even written by the screenwriters, but left to other writers to clear up. That is the very definition of laziness.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Hellscream9999 wrote:JazZeke wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Kurona wrote:Well yes, but the point is that it's a point not addressed in the movie itself - hence most viewers will not know of it. You have to dig into extra material to know this particular character trait.
That's what I like about the movies. You have to work for answers.
And I consider that the essence of bad storytelling. A movie should provide all the relevant information to the audience within itself; audiences should not be expected to do homework or buy tie-in material to understand what is going on. When I buy a movie ticket, I expect to be paying for a whole story, not just part of a story.
Especially if said tie-in material isn't even written by the screenwriters, but left to other writers to clear up. That is the very definition of laziness.
That's because it is the essence of bad storytelling - at least a major part of it
JazZeke wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:JazZeke wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Kurona wrote:Well yes, but the point is that it's a point not addressed in the movie itself - hence most viewers will not know of it. You have to dig into extra material to know this particular character trait.
That's what I like about the movies. You have to work for answers.
And I consider that the essence of bad storytelling. A movie should provide all the relevant information to the audience within itself; audiences should not be expected to do homework or buy tie-in material to understand what is going on. When I buy a movie ticket, I expect to be paying for a whole story, not just part of a story.
Especially if said tie-in material isn't even written by the screenwriters, but left to other writers to clear up. That is the very definition of laziness.
That's because it is the essence of bad storytelling - at least a major part of it
You know that, and I know that. But Sly has his head burried so deep in his a- I mean, the sand, that he doesn't know that.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Yup! Forget this guy's not having a backstory in the movie, dude doesn't even get a name despite being a roughly major player in the flick.Hellscream9999 wrote:I remember someone saying that they never even mentioned Drift's name, I won't waste my time re-watching that movie, but if that's true, then that would explain why they don't bother explaining his backstory
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Hellscream9999 wrote:JazZeke wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:JazZeke wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Kurona wrote:Well yes, but the point is that it's a point not addressed in the movie itself - hence most viewers will not know of it. You have to dig into extra material to know this particular character trait.
That's what I like about the movies. You have to work for answers.
And I consider that the essence of bad storytelling. A movie should provide all the relevant information to the audience within itself; audiences should not be expected to do homework or buy tie-in material to understand what is going on. When I buy a movie ticket, I expect to be paying for a whole story, not just part of a story.
Especially if said tie-in material isn't even written by the screenwriters, but left to other writers to clear up. That is the very definition of laziness.
That's because it is the essence of bad storytelling - at least a major part of it
You know that, and I know that. But Sly has his head burried so deep in his a- I mean, the sand, that he doesn't know that.
Mr. Plinkett for life yo
And to be fair, I don't mind having to dig for easter eggs, it's nice fan service; a main characters name shouldn't be treated that way
I remember someone saying that they never even mentioned Drift's name, I won't waste my time re-watching that movie, but if that's true, then that would explain why they don't bother explaining his backstory
oof, screen-writing failure 101, #1, 2, and 3Sabrblade wrote:Yup! Forget this guy's not having a backstory in the movie, dude doesn't even get a name despite being a roughly major player in the flick.Hellscream9999 wrote:I remember someone saying that they never even mentioned Drift's name, I won't waste my time re-watching that movie, but if that's true, then that would explain why they don't bother explaining his backstory
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
JazZeke wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Mr. Plinkett for life yo
And to be fair, I don't mind having to dig for easter eggs, it's nice fan service; a main characters name shouldn't be treated that way
I remember someone saying that they never even mentioned Drift's name, I won't waste my time re-watching that movie, but if that's true, then that would explain why they don't bother explaining his backstory
A good Easter Egg is having Wakanda on a map in the background of Iron Man 2 like a half-dozen movies before Black Panther even shows up.
Assuming a character has the same backstory as the other incarnations in a franchise is not an Easter Egg.
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
JazZeke wrote:A good Easter Egg is having Wakanda on a map in the background of Iron Man 2 like a half-dozen movies before Black Panther even shows up.
Su Yueming didn't even get her name said onscreen either. So for all we know, Li Bingbing's character would be known to moviegoers as just "that hot Chinese lady".Hellscream9999 wrote:oof, screen-writing failure 101, #1, 2, and 3Sabrblade wrote:Yup! Forget this guy's not having a backstory in the movie, dude doesn't even get a name despite being a roughly major player in the flick.Hellscream9999 wrote:I remember someone saying that they never even mentioned Drift's name, I won't waste my time re-watching that movie, but if that's true, then that would explain why they don't bother explaining his backstory
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
The bumbling incompetence of the writing => me =>Sabrblade wrote:Su Yueming didn't even get her name said onscreen either. So for all we know, Li Bingbing's character would be known to moviegoers as just "that hot Chinese lady".Hellscream9999 wrote:oof, screen-writing failure 101, #1, 2, and 3Sabrblade wrote:Yup! Forget this guy's not having a backstory in the movie, dude doesn't even get a name despite being a roughly major player in the flick.Hellscream9999 wrote:I remember someone saying that they never even mentioned Drift's name, I won't waste my time re-watching that movie, but if that's true, then that would explain why they don't bother explaining his backstory
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Yeah, but they aren't part of the story. One shouldn't have to wait till the end credits to learn the names of prominent characters.Emerje wrote:Ending credits are there for a reason...
Emerje
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Emerje wrote:Ending credits are there for a reason...
Emerje
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Deadput wrote:Sabr Drift's name was on display in the movie
william-james88 wrote:If ever Sabrblade decides to go on vacation, I am glad to know we can rely on you.
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