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[Sentinel_Primal]

Of course, it could just be a reissue of that Metroplex.

Which would still be welcomed by some of us, because the eBay prices on him = very ow

The reason it's "rumored" is because Warden's said (supposedly, I don't really pay attention to the interviews) that he wants to redo Metroplex so that he can have a try and it because T30 was before he was the brand manager.

[Gauntlet101010]

A G1 version of Metroplex makes less sense than a G1 version of Fort Max IMO since Fort Max just leaves so much to be desired. But both would be a pass from me.

Most titans are a pass since the size and (especially) space are just so contentious now. I skipped out on both Predaking AND Omega Supreme since I have versions of those guys I'm happy with. I SHOULD have skipped Devestator since he's in a box and a 3P version is taking his place.

Apart from Tidal Wave?

I mean if we go down the selects route I think Black Zarak makes a lot more sense. Or even Metrotitan. I wouldn't buy Metrotitan, but the colours on Black Zarak would tempt me.

Maybe Primus? As a cheap way to get a rival for the upcoming Unicron (for those of us who got him).

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

A G1 version of Metroplex makes less sense than a G1 version of Fort Max IMO since Fort Max just leaves so much to be desired.

Indeed, since the toy he's retooled from, T30 Metroplex, is very much a G1 Metroplex in terms of transformation scheme. And of course the 3P companies haven't tackled the biggest issues with TR Fort Max...

But both would be a pass from me.

I'd have mixed feelings about Fort Max since I already have the TR version. I'd be interested in Metroplex, simply because I don't already have him.

I mean if we go down the selects route I think Black Zarak makes a lot more sense. Or even Metrotitan. I wouldn't buy Metrotitan, but the colours on Black Zarak would tempt me.

That's Selects though, not the mainline Titan.

Maybe Primus? As a cheap way to get a rival for the upcoming Unicron (for those of us who got him).

Eh... I dunno that that's necessary.

@Emerje Cybertron Primus' third mode is really just a partial transformation anyway

[Gauntlet101010]

Once Scorpinok's done I can't say who's necessary TBH. After that you get really obscure.

[Rodimus Prime]

Earthrise already has its Titan. If you guys want to speculate future Titans, please do so in the Titans thread.

Back to somewhat ER related, since this virus has everything on hold, anyone know when any more figures will be revealed? This can't be all of them, right?

[Sentinel_Primal]

Earthrise already has its Titan. If you guys want to speculate future Titans, please do so in the Titans thread.

Back to somewhat ER related, since this virus has everything on hold, anyone know when any more figures might be revealed? This can't be all of them, can it?

Honestly, I think it might be. The wave 2 voyagers were listed for a September release, and the leaders originially were, but Doubledealer was moved up according to Pulse. I feel like Hasbro may have had contingency plans for a few extra waves if they could squeeze them out, but those plans may have been moved to Part 3

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

You know, this site really needs a "Warning! Other people posted while you were typing" delay feature added to the Quick Reply.

I think we may well have seen all of Earthrise, actually.

[aronjlove]

Is there anything that says it has to be an annual thing? I mean, these were part of a mixed media push, with the show and all. And it ain't even here. With everything practically coming to a stop, regardless if it is wanted or not, there ain't much consumerism going on for the next month or so. And if they could add a last-minute wave for Siege I don't see why they couldn't extend Earthrise. Just looking at the TFWiki page for the two it is obvious there is less for ER. Less Battlemasters, less Micromasters, less everything.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

We haven't seen everything in Earthrise, not if the ID's are any indication. Here's the list past E24 Sky Lynx and E25 Scorponok:

Exclusives?
E26
E27
E28
E29 Thundercracker & Skywarp
E30 Pounce & Wingspan

E31 (Exclusive or Battle Master?)
E32 (Exclusive, Battle Master or Micromaster?)
E33 (Exclusive or Micromaster?)

Wave 3
E34 Trailbreaker
E35 Fasttrack
E36 Sunstreaker
E37 Runamuck
E38 Megatron

Wave 4?
E39 Decepticon Doublecrosser

Still quite a few gaps left. I will say that for regular retail, the wave containing Doublecrosser will put it at Siege's level before the Poll bots (Mirage and Impactor), Wave 5 (Spinister, Astrotrain, Apeface and the like) and the add-on exclusives.

[Wolfman Jake]

There's no way we've seen all of the Earthrise figures quite yet. My guess is that Earthrise is going to have to span about 2 years now instead of the intended 1. COVID-19 has delayed business around the world, period. Hasbro is no exception. I predict we'll see Wave 2 by the fall, as most of the late spring and summer will likely be catching back up with distribution of Wave 1. We might have a third wave out by the Xmas shopping season. Or, things may be delayed again if COVID-19 proves to be seasonal and we have another "peak" once the weather cools late in the year. Hasbro can always pull out some extra waves to stuff 2021 with more "Earthrise" product until the third part of the trilogy is ready to launch. They did it before with Siege, pushing out a fifth wave that was likely made of "early offerings" of some Earthrise product, like Astrotrain, or products perhaps originally meant for more exclusive distribution, like Crosshairs. They could repack some sought after Siege figures too, a la Rung and Smashdown.

A longer run for Eathrise would also help close the gap between distribution of the toyline and the Netflix series. The Siege toys have all been distributed, most likely, and the show hasn't even started yet! Putting some "premium" redecoes of Siege figures into an exclusive Walmart line is an obvious attempt to right that problem, but if Earthrise is still going strong into 2021, then the second season of the Netflix show might just line up with the actual mainline figures and preclude the need for another assortment of Walmart exclusives. I don't think there's any reason for Hasbro to try and rush things or truncate Earthrise to "stay on schedule." They've got everything to gain by taking it slowly and padding out Earthrise if needed.

[Emerje]

Back to somewhat ER related, since this virus has everything on hold, anyone know when any more figures will be revealed? This can't be all of them, right?

Problem is with wave 2 almost certainly getting delayed (if the Netflix line can be delayed days before release when they should have already been boxed and ready to go then nothing is safe) Earthrise could be pushed back for a while. I mentioned earlier in the thread that they should just write off most of the year and extend ER to 2021 and go for 5 waves like Siege.

For that reason and with events like SDCC being in question it might be a while before we see more from ER. There are more figures coming, not everything has been revealed yet. The lineup looks like this past wave 1 with gaps to show potentially missing figures (sometimes Hasbro just screws up numbers but we should believe they represent an unknown figure).

E13 - Slitherfang
E14 -
E15 - Micromaster Race Track Patrol
E16 - Micromaster Astro Squad
E17 - Arcee
E18 - Airwave
E19 - Alicon
E20 - Smokescreen
E21 - Snapdragon
E22 - Quintesson Judge
E23 - Doubledealer
E24 - Sky Lynx
E25 - Scorponok
E26 -
E27 -
E28 -
E29 - Target Skywarp and Thundercracker
E30 - Target Clones 2 Pack
E31 -
E32 -
E33 -
E34 - Trailbreaker
E35 - Fasttrack
E36 - Sunstreaker
E37 - Runamuck
E38 - Megatron
E39 - Doublecrosser

E14 Should be another Battle Master, probably that leaked one that looks like Armada Grindor. E26, E27, and E28 are probably exclusives (Amazon?). E31, E32, and E33 are probably some mix of Battle Masters and Micromasters. Doublecrosser being a Battle Master and knowing that those start wave counts it seems to imply the start of a fourth wave. Also means there's no wave 3 Leader, or at least not one released with the rest of wave 3, it'll probably be released with the other wave 4s but still be the third wave of Leaders like how Siege wave 2 Galaxy Upgrade OP was released with wave 3 and wave 3 Astrotrain was released with wave 5. Gee, sure is fun trying to make sense out of Hasbro's numbering systems. Also doesn't include Selects and some other exclusives, may or may not include SDCC. Yes, there's a lot left to see.

Emerje

[Jelze Bunnycat]

I have E14 as the Rung re-release.

[LinaNui]

So does no one care that someone has posted a video review of Skylynx? I sent the video link to the news people almost 12 hours ago and nothing. I also posted it here, and have gotten no response? Does no one like Skylynx anymore?

Well here is the link to Prime vs Primes's video again:
https://youtu.be/euXZ1TT_Id4

Hopefully this can generate some more discussion.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Thanks to multiple Seibertron users, we have news that the new Commander class figure for Transformers War for Cybertron Earthrise has made its way into a video reviewer, who is prepared to give us a good look at this new figure!

Thanks to PrimevsPrime on Youtube, who is a source for early english language reviews of figures in both Earthrise and Studio Series, we have our first video review of this highly anticipated figure, whose name is none other than Sky Lynx, of course. Sky Lynx is basically a quintuple-changer and combiner of sorts, transforming from a space shuttle into a giant bird-dinosaur creature, and then splitting apart into a Lynx and a flying bird thingy, while also now having a shuttle base mode.

Sky Lynx is due out later in the year and retails for around $79.99. Check out the video review below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!

[Emerje]

I have E14 as the Rung re-release.

Has he been officially announced? I was going off TFWiki which has Smashdown listed for E2 but nothing for E14. So maybe "Grindor" will be E40 if he's happening then?

Would have been nice if the Sky Lynx review could have stuck him with PotP Predaking for comparison. I'm sure he's much too small, but I'm curious.

Emerje

[Rodimus Prime]

Okay, I just watched the Skylynx video, and I'm impressed. A much, much better figure than Jetfire was, IMO. He has a lot more going on, and all of his space is utilized. No robot parts hanging out all over the place. The lynx is definitely the best part, but of course the combined mode is how it should be. That shuttle mode makes me think that if they gave Astrotrain this treatment, he would have been a much better figure as well. Based on this review, I'll be getting Sky lynx for sure. Like the reviewer said, the bird mode is the weakest, but it still looks good. Great colors, great functionality, good transformation. A definite winner.

[Emerje]

I like the dino bird mode quite a bit, it's just the legs that are problematic. They're too close together making him look bowlegged at certain angles and his feet are all wrong. He has the feet of a song bird, not the talons of a bird of prey like the original.

Emerje

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

*grumblegrumbleJetfireDOESN'THAVErobotpartshangingoutallovertheplacegrumblegrumble*

I like the dino bird mode quite a bit, it's just the legs that are problematic. They're too close together making him look bowlegged at certain angles and his feet are all wrong. He has the feet of a song bird, not the talons of a bird of prey like the original.

Emerje

The feet are still talonlike IMO, they're just closer together so that they don't need the webbing the original had:


The front claws are angled a bit flatter by default, but concessions did have to be made for the decidedly greater poseability of ER Sky Lynz's bird legs.

[aronjlove]

Yeah, I totally skipped Jetfire because he's cool but really just a big dude and I got combiners that are big dudes plus more. Now this, however, is the good stuff. Basically two Transformers that combine in both modes. Lynx is a lynx and a base and Sky is a bird and a shuttle. Or at least that's how I imagine the name split. Anyways, this makes me feel like I'm getting so much more for my money.

[Rodimus Prime]

Maybe talons were deemed too sharp by either Hasbro or safety regulations? And it's too bad about the wing hinges as well, the wings flop down under their weight when fully expanded. Otherwise, this figure has no negatives that I can see, though I will never put him in his 'base' mode. It's more like a launch pad like Astrotrain has anyway. That's why I said, had Astrotrain been a commander class figure (leader class Astrotrain plus extra crap) maybe his shuttle mode would look as good as Skylynx does, instead of looking half-finished.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

I'm pretty sure Astrotrain's shuttle mode would still have suffered so long as they stuck to the stupid cartoon chest, unless maybe if they gave him skinnier arms so that the majority of the shuttle aft didn't have to be comprised of his arms.
But even with the arms as-is, his shuttle mode would look a lot better if the chestplate covering them was one that could be right-side-up in both modes instead of having to expose its ugly hollow back.

Safety seems unlikely as a reason for the changes to Sky Lynx's feet. I'm pretty sure balance and possibly transformation clearance are more likely factors. If PotP Grimlock's dino foot claws are acceptable, I don't see why talons wouldn't be. I'm pretty sure the cause was desire to have flat feet for mechanical reasons.

Also, IMO the back part of the feet clinches them as still being talons. It's hooked like the rear toe of one, after all.

[Sentinel_Primal]

Yeah, I totally skipped Jetfire because he's cool but really just a big dude and I got combiners that are big dudes plus more. Now this, however, is the good stuff. Basically two Transformers that combine in both modes. Lynx is a lynx and a base and Sky is a bird and a shuttle. Or at least that's how I imagine the name split. Anyways, this makes me feel like I'm getting so much more for my money.

That's why I skipped Jetfire (aside from general lack of space on my main display ). Sky lynx however, because of the bestial robot mode, feels like he actually does justify the size. Plus, because of the base mode, I'm going to add him to the Titanmaster/Micromaster city I have, though I'll need to decide what mode he'll be in most of the time

[Emerje]

Indeed, the transformation is part of the foot problem. They chose to tuck them up inside the body instead of flattened out on the bottom so they would have to be made smaller and narrower to fit.

The wings don't bother me, mine wont be doing much flying around and there's still time for the looseness to be fixed.

Emerje

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

I think they also needed to be flatter to have more surface area on the ground.

Having the feet tuck into the body also makes the shuttle a bit more tidy beneath and lets it dock more flush with the back of the lynx.

[Bounti76]

My only issue with his bird mode is the legs- not how skinny they are, but how closely together they seem to be the closer they get to the body. At some angles, it looks like they almost meet at the same point, like a kid drew and designed then. I realize most people will be displaying him in combined mode, but it's still a minor point of bother.