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yeah, it's an extra attack. just think of it as your bot being fast, or maybe attacking with its tail or claws as well as its mouth. heck, both of those have a big hernia creating gun stuck onto them (cool btw) which they could fire off with whilst they're in close combat. i say just go for it.

By the mechanics of the game, Scorponok's Cyber-bee and Polarclaw's Robo-bat are effectively 'target masters'.

Well, okay, it's a tad off because those became independent when they were in bot-mode, which is actually the opposite of how it works in the game...

But surely you can see how it potentially works. So far I've written up several Maximal/Predacons that have drones or partners - usually just an extensiopn of themselves.

One odd off case was a femmebot with a housecat alt-mode - which I then realized would make her terribly tiny, so I gave her a 'transtector' body that she would interface with for combat.

Basicaly I'm just sayin', tis what you make of it.

Caelus wrote:One odd off case was a femmebot with a housecat alt-mode - which I then realized would make her terribly tiny, so I gave her a 'transtector' body that she would interface with for combat.

Not necessarily. Black Arachnia and Ratrap's alt modes should have been pretty tiny, but they didn't mass-shift and were nearly as big as Rhinox, TM Prime and Dinobot.

craggy wrote:

Caelus wrote:One odd off case was a femmebot with a housecat alt-mode - which I then realized would make her terribly tiny, so I gave her a 'transtector' body that she would interface with for combat.

Not necessarily. Black Arachnia and Ratrap's alt modes should have been pretty tiny, but they didn't mass-shift and were nearly as big as Rhinox, TM Prime and Dinobot.

Except for the nature of the character I specifically wanted her to turn into a "housecat", no "giant" or "prehistoric" prefix attached - capable of moving amongst humans unnoticed.

A housecat the size of an average Maximal wouldn't be much different from a panther, and ergo, pointless.

Caelus wrote:By the mechanics of the game, Scorponok's Cyber-bee and Polarclaw's Robo-bat are effectively 'target masters'.

Well, okay, it's a tad off because those became independent when they were in bot-mode, which is actually the opposite of how it works in the game...

But surely you can see how it potentially works. So far I've written up several Maximal/Predacons that have drones or partners - usually just an extensiopn of themselves.

One odd off case was a femmebot with a housecat alt-mode - which I then realized would make her terribly tiny, so I gave her a 'transtector' body that she would interface with for combat.

Basicaly I'm just sayin', tis what you make of it.

While I can see a bit of flexability as far as imagination goes, I am more concerned with making a transformer that has not *master feature being included in mission text like 'joebot uses targetmaster on fredcon'. This made it disheartening to watch my space battleship con run around as a 'space shuttle' in those same texts... Plus I prefer tactics that are more in line with the alt. I choose. And in the targetmaster/headmaster alts there are only two a piece. Maybe it is just my brain's unwillingness to ignore the name tags in the game text but it still rubs me the wrong way.

And it is not like the Maximals will be getting more alts since the two alt. pics in question are already in the Maximal list, so it would be the video game equivilent of giving the red paint scheme to the other car or creature. Purely asthetic and simple to execute mechanicaly.

Kryptikore wrote:

Jesus Prime wrote:Seriousyly, though, they could easily have put Soundwave in the movie if they made him a full stack.

Freakin Aey and Rumble and Frenzy could have been an Axe and a Bass!

I would think that a full stack KICKS ass. But fereal now....I would be vexed if the guitar alt was exclusive to the baddies just because of some sceneless movie character. That would make me want to kill...Decepticons. More.
All I want is one guitar alt to name after my actual guitar: "The Fretless Wonder". (It has frets, thats just its nickname)That White thing you show there Kryptikore...would be Excellent. I would just make it black.

Knives wrote:

Caelus wrote:By the mechanics of the game, Scorponok's Cyber-bee and Polarclaw's Robo-bat are effectively 'target masters'.

Well, okay, it's a tad off because those became independent when they were in bot-mode, which is actually the opposite of how it works in the game...

But surely you can see how it potentially works. So far I've written up several Maximal/Predacons that have drones or partners - usually just an extensiopn of themselves.

One odd off case was a femmebot with a housecat alt-mode - which I then realized would make her terribly tiny, so I gave her a 'transtector' body that she would interface with for combat.

Basicaly I'm just sayin', tis what you make of it.

While I can see a bit of flexability as far as imagination goes, I am more concerned with making a transformer that has not *master feature being included in mission text like 'joebot uses targetmaster on fredcon'. This made it disheartening to watch my space battleship con run around as a 'space shuttle' in those same texts... Plus I prefer tactics that are more in line with the alt. I choose. And in the targetmaster/headmaster alts there are only two a piece. Maybe it is just my brain's unwillingness to ignore the name tags in the game text but it still rubs me the wrong way.

And it is not like the Maximals will be getting more alts since the two alt. pics in question are already in the Maximal list, so it would be the video game equivilent of giving the red paint scheme to the other car or creature. Purely asthetic and simple to execute mechanicaly.

I thought we could name the masters? In which case, a targetmaster could easily be called "photon cannon", in which case the logs will look like it's an extra weapon. I don't know, I guess I'm just arguing needlessly, since swapping maximal alts around isn't going to affect me.

Mkall put a School bus in there!
*gives in to fit of laughter for a while....*

I'm sorry, thats just too much. *mumbles to self....A school bus

Im still having trouble working this out; TIE fighters.

Try as i can, i just cannot understand why they were given to the preds and not the cons.

- The (good) movies pre-date G1 so its not their age.
- The SWTF toy's are all large bulky mechanoids, not small fleshy squishable dinosaurs.
- The Autobots have the X-Wing; so surely their ancient enemies would have the opposing craft?

Is it just because the preds were lacking in aerial modes or is there something ive missed?

Psychout wrote:Im still having trouble working this out; TIE fighters.

Try as i can, i just cannot understand why they were given to the preds and not the cons.

- The (good) movies pre-date G1 so its not their age.
- The SWTF toy's are all large bulky mechanoids, not small fleshy squishable dinosaurs.
- The Autobots have the X-Wing; so surely their ancient enemies would have the opposing craft?

Is it just because the preds were lacking in aerial modes or is there something ive missed?

He didn't that to just the TIE fighters. Notice both the Maximals and the Preds ahve vehicle alt modes. I'll bet he's thinking of the Japanese Beast Wars, Neo Beast wars, etc. All the Preds had vehicle modes.

Im not begrudging the Maximals and Predacons vehicle altmodes at all - i know they had them and I have no problem with them being there; Im simply confused as to why the 'cons got the droid wheel thingy in their list and not the TIE craft that always struck me as being far more old school 'con, in both attitude (as part of the Emperors force to dominate the universe - sound familiar?) and in toy design than the droid stuff or even the quadrupedal ATAT which the cons also get.

Naturally im biased, but it just doesnt make sense. I guess im hoping its not that they were added to the pred list just for the sake of building up the numbers.

I had originally put those kind of vehicles to the maximals/predacons because I'm trying to give them a futuristic look.

Check back in a couple days though psych

Psychout wrote:Im not begrudging the Maximals and Predacons vehicle altmodes at all - i know they had them and I have no problem with them being there; Im simply confused as to why the 'cons got the droid wheel thingy in their list and not the TIE craft that always struck me as being far more old school 'con, in both attitude (as part of the Emperors force to dominate the universe - sound familiar?) and in toy design than the droid stuff or even the quadrupedal ATAT which the cons also get.

Naturally im biased, but it just doesnt make sense. I guess im hoping its not that they were added to the pred list just for the sake of building up the numbers.

This man is correct.

Also, I know someone has done a Tie Interceptor (infact I have a sneaking suspision it's Mkall). Why cant we have easily the coolest (IMO) looking tie of the lot on the game?

Mkall wrote:I had originally put those kind of vehicles to the maximals/predacons because I'm trying to give them a futuristic look.

Check back in a couple days though psych

Ill admit though, that was a pretty good reason.

Cheers Mkall.

Redimus wrote:

Psychout wrote:Im not begrudging the Maximals and Predacons vehicle altmodes at all - i know they had them and I have no problem with them being there; Im simply confused as to why the 'cons got the droid wheel thingy in their list and not the TIE craft that always struck me as being far more old school 'con, in both attitude (as part of the Emperors force to dominate the universe - sound familiar?) and in toy design than the droid stuff or even the quadrupedal ATAT which the cons also get.

Naturally im biased, but it just doesnt make sense. I guess im hoping its not that they were added to the pred list just for the sake of building up the numbers.

This man is correct.

Also, I know someone has done a Tie Interceptor (infact I have a sneaking suspision it's Mkall). Why cant we have easily the coolest (IMO) looking tie of the lot on the game?

I think I saw somewhere a chiss clawcraft alt. mode, that looks better than the Interceptor.

Blaster_6267 wrote:Just a slight siggestion...the cons have this alt mode () under the medium vehicle [ram/charge/catch] class. However, I feel that the Autobots should be entitled to this alt as well. Mainly for the fact that even though both sunstreaker and sideswipe are the same type of cars, they are two distinctly different bots, therefore deserving 2 seperate alt modes.

This got passed, over, so I'll try it again

Looking at the list again, the Autobot tanks seem a little... blah. Perhaps they should have the Challenger MBT alt or some variation on the M1 as a rare tank?

Blaster_6267 wrote:

Blaster_6267 wrote:Just a slight siggestion...the cons have this alt mode () under the medium vehicle [ram/charge/catch] class. However, I feel that the Autobots should be entitled to this alt as well.

This got passed, over, so I'll try it again

Autobots have that alt now, i think it was added saturday or sometime over the weekend, cause i noticed it last night.

Caelus wrote:Looking at the list again, the Autobot tanks seem a little... blah. Perhaps they should have the Challenger MBT alt or some variation on the M1 as a rare tank?

The decepticon tanks aren't too good, either. I'm missing something like this:

Blaster_6267 wrote:

Blaster_6267 wrote:Just a slight siggestion...the cons have this alt mode () under the medium vehicle [ram/charge/catch] class. However, I feel that the Autobots should be entitled to this alt as well. Mainly for the fact that even though both sunstreaker and sideswipe are the same type of cars, they are two distinctly different bots, therefore deserving 2 seperate alt modes.

This got passed, over, so I'll try it again

Has it now?

Chaoslock wrote:

Caelus wrote:Looking at the list again, the Autobot tanks seem a little... blah. Perhaps they should have the Challenger MBT alt or some variation on the M1 as a rare tank?

The decepticon tanks aren't too good, either. I'm missing something like this:

SECONDED! We need a Mamoth tank!

Uncrazzimatic wrote:

Chaoslock wrote:

Caelus wrote:Looking at the list again, the Autobot tanks seem a little... blah. Perhaps they should have the Challenger MBT alt or some variation on the M1 as a rare tank?

The decepticon tanks aren't too good, either. I'm missing something like this:

SECONDED! We need a Mamoth tank!

Yes, but not a mamoth tank that looks as pants as that one does.

Mkall wrote:

Blaster_6267 wrote:

Blaster_6267 wrote:Just a slight siggestion...the cons have this alt mode () under the medium vehicle [ram/charge/catch] class. However, I feel that the Autobots should be entitled to this alt as well. Mainly for the fact that even though both sunstreaker and sideswipe are the same type of cars, they are two distinctly different bots, therefore deserving 2 seperate alt modes.

This got passed, over, so I'll try it again

Has it now?

Yup, I'm blind. Thanks Mkall

After looking through the Maximal alt modes I noticed that there were none for the TransMetal Optimus Primal or even Optimal Optimus. I could have sworn I saw more Primal alt modes before.

Is there any way to get some of those in there for the Maximals?

I, would like to request the High Score alt to the Autobot list. Because he's cool and would complement the Gamecube alt very well.

Thank you, oh great Alt Sorter.

OH, and HOW DARE YOU USE RAYQUAZA AS A PREDACON!!!!! YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN THAT!!!!

I should have mine vaporize you under temperature stress.