The Energon Pub

Like Bad Wolf on Facebook · by **Bad Wolf** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:56 am

OptimusPrive wrote:It's all about symbolism. People like symbols. Symbols work best with wide recognition of what they symbolize.

im all up for having a little somthing extra to ID us "verterans" of HMW
maybe a little pip icon

per year next to our team
green = 1yr
blue = 2yr
red = 3+year, etc etc

by **Tifereth** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:06 pm

Nemesis Prime wrote:
OptimusPrive wrote:It's all about symbolism. People like symbols. Symbols work best with wide recognition of what they symbolize.

im all up for having a little somthing extra to ID us "verterans" of HMW
maybe a little pip icon per year next to our team
green = 1yr
blue = 2yr
red = 3+year, etc etc

there is ppl in the game with 3+ years and has teams with less than 1 million, so i dont think thats a really good idea

u have the time, but not the experience

News Credits: 1 · by **QuietStorm** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:50 pm

Basically, veteran means that you've been participating in the battles.

There are those that haven't been participating. There are those that play 24/7. Regardless, I think that it should be designated off of when you started playing. EVERYONE will be recognized.

Title - Time Period
Battle Scarred - Game's Inception
Grizzled - Great Burn
Old Timer - Great Whoops
Vet - Played Prior to V2, but not prior to Great Whoops

Utilizing the color coding from Nemesis Prime, we would then be able to differentiate who's who. I think that this is the fairest way to recognize the players of V1, but not giving too much attention and detail to it.

Word.

by **Lorekeeper** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 1:52 pm

QuietStorm wrote:Basically, veteran means that you've been participating in the battles.

There are those that haven't been participating. There are those that play 24/7. Regardless, I think that it should be designated off of when you started playing. EVERYONE will be recognized.

Title - Time Period
Battle Scarred - Game's Inception
Grizzled - Great Burn
Old Timer - Great Whoops
Vet - Played Prior to V2, but not prior to Great Whoops

Utilizing the color coding from Nemesis Prime, we would then be able to differentiate who's who. I think that this is the fairest way to recognize the players of V1, but not giving too much attention and detail to it.

Word.

That's not a bad idea.

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:18 pm

OptimusPrive wrote:
QuietStorm wrote:Basically, veteran means that you've been participating in the battles.

There are those that haven't been participating. There are those that play 24/7. Regardless, I think that it should be designated off of when you started playing. EVERYONE will be recognized.

Title - Time Period
Battle Scarred - Game's Inception
Grizzled - Great Burn
Old Timer - Great Whoops
Vet - Played Prior to V2, but not prior to Great Whoops

Utilizing the color coding from Nemesis Prime, we would then be able to differentiate who's who. I think that this is the fairest way to recognize the players of V1, but not giving too much attention and detail to it.

Word.

That's not a bad idea.

I agree.

News Credits: 7 · by **Dragonslayer** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:25 pm

Venomous Prime wrote:
OptimusPrive wrote:
QuietStorm wrote:Basically, veteran means that you've been participating in the battles.

There are those that haven't been participating. There are those that play 24/7. Regardless, I think that it should be designated off of when you started playing. EVERYONE will be recognized.

Title - Time Period
Battle Scarred - Game's Inception
Grizzled - Great Burn
Old Timer - Great Whoops
Vet - Played Prior to V2, but not prior to Great Whoops

Utilizing the color coding from Nemesis Prime, we would then be able to differentiate who's who. I think that this is the fairest way to recognize the players of V1, but not giving too much attention and detail to it.

Word.

That's not a bad idea.

I agree.

As do I, being one of the ones who would fall under the Veteran category

Like Bad Wolf on Facebook · by **Bad Wolf** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:02 pm

Tifereth wrote:
Nemesis Prime wrote:
OptimusPrive wrote:It's all about symbolism. People like symbols. Symbols work best with wide recognition of what they symbolize.

im all up for having a little somthing extra to ID us "verterans" of HMW
maybe a little pip icon per year next to our team
green = 1yr
blue = 2yr
red = 3+year, etc etc

there is ppl in the game with 3+ years and has teams with less than 1 million, so i dont think thats a really good idea

u have the time, but not the experience

well when v2 goems out all the EXP you have wont matter right .. and are we measuring EXP by character exp or exp in the game (of which i have lots

) .. and again with v2 - current exp will not matter .. so all we have is Time playing

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:07 pm

Tifereth wrote:
Nemesis Prime wrote:
OptimusPrive wrote:It's all about symbolism. People like symbols. Symbols work best with wide recognition of what they symbolize.

im all up for having a little somthing extra to ID us "verterans" of HMW
maybe a little pip icon per year next to our team
green = 1yr
blue = 2yr
red = 3+year, etc etc

there is ppl in the game with 3+ years and has teams with less than 1 million, so i dont think thats a really good idea

u have the time, but not the experience

What he said.

My team has existed for alittle more than 2 years, and I have a LOT more xp than some who have been there twice as long.

Like Bad Wolf on Facebook · by **Bad Wolf** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:11 pm

again that is my point - when v2 comes around
ALL the EXP you have right now will not matter
Unles
that is what you want .. something to say ive been playing for x long and have THIS much exp b4 the reset (v2)

or

as what i was thinking .. ive been playing for X long
(exp is what it is .. based on current game version)

by **Subsonika** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:15 pm

Redimus wrote:
Tifereth wrote:
Nemesis Prime wrote:
OptimusPrive wrote:It's all about symbolism. People like symbols. Symbols work best with wide recognition of what they symbolize.

im all up for having a little somthing extra to ID us "verterans" of HMW
maybe a little pip icon per year next to our team
green = 1yr
blue = 2yr
red = 3+year, etc etc

there is ppl in the game with 3+ years and has teams with less than 1 million, so i dont think thats a really good idea

u have the time, but not the experience

What he said.

My team has existed for alittle more than 2 years, and I have a LOT more xp than some who have been there twice as long.

Omega Sentinel wrote:
Subsonika wrote:Anyone thats been playing regularly over a year seems fair to me...
I would like to base it off xp totals and energon total. Don't want to reward someone just because they signed up a long time ago.

Like Bad Wolf on Facebook · by **Bad Wolf** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:18 pm

Subsonika wrote:
Omega Sentinel wrote:
Subsonika wrote:Anyone thats been playing regularly over a year seems fair to me...
I would like to base it off xp totals and energon total. Don't want to reward someone just because they signed up a long time ago.

then you base the ranking off EXP and this topic is pointless
other than .. what kind if t-shirt did you want

by **Subsonika** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:22 pm

Nemesis Prime wrote:
Subsonika wrote:
Omega Sentinel wrote:
Subsonika wrote:Anyone thats been playing regularly over a year seems fair to me...
I would like to base it off xp totals and energon total. Don't want to reward someone just because they signed up a long time ago.

then you base the ranking off EXP and this topic is pointless
other than .. what kind if t-shirt did you want

yes, this thread has become somewhat repetitive

News Credits: 1 · by **QuietStorm** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:08 pm

Subsonika wrote:
Nemesis Prime wrote:
Subsonika wrote:
Omega Sentinel wrote:
Subsonika wrote:Anyone thats been playing regularly over a year seems fair to me...
I would like to base it off xp totals and energon total. Don't want to reward someone just because they signed up a long time ago.

then you base the ranking off EXP and this topic is pointless
other than .. what kind if t-shirt did you want

yes, this thread has become somewhat repetitive

ALTHOUGH, my ideas did gather some comments of support...so?

One has to venture that it's not JUST about XP earned but those that that have been here for a while and played. This basically is nothing more than a "who's who" type of thing anyway. So you could accomplish this with a Hall of Fame or Heavy Metal War Memorial Wall of some sorts?

I understand the pressing need of people with achievements and personal accomplishments (Windracer, Prive, Red--to name a few) to want to stand out differently than just the likes of those that simply played V1. But I think Recognition basically should stem from that fact that V1 is gone, and V2 is upon us. So...we could dwell on the past and specify that it's all about XP/Energon, but I think in all fairness simply going by time is easiest and most fair.

Word.

by **sprockitz** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:35 pm

everyone that's talking about time, I can't buy it. Because you've been around a long time and haven't earned the xp, is because you HAVE NOT spent the time. There is virtually no skill that goes into succeeding in this game...xp and actual time spent on the game are pretty much the same thing. basing it on when you signed up is just plain stupid. base it on xp, that best correlates to how much time people spent on this game (instead of sleeping, working, eating, attending my wedding...etc etc)

that said, I don't care too much what the recognition is, or even that it exists, just that it isn't given out for something as stupid as that date y'all signed up. The idea of badges is probably the coolest I've seen...would be a nice sign of respect for having spent well over 10 thousand, and realistically closer to 15,000 (wow, what a waste

) hours on this game.

oh, and archiving the old high scores is a must!!

by **Jar Axel** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:08 am

sprockitz wrote:everyone that's talking about time, I can't buy it. Because you've been around a long time and haven't earned the xp, is because you HAVE NOT spent the time. There is virtually no skill that goes into succeeding in this game...xp and actual time spent on the game are pretty much the same thing. basing it on when you signed up is just plain stupid. base it on xp, that best correlates to how much time people spent on this game (instead of sleeping, working, eating, attending my wedding...etc etc)

that said, I don't care too much what the recognition is, or even that it exists, just that it isn't given out for something as stupid as that date y'all signed up. The idea of badges is probably the coolest I've seen...would be a nice sign of respect for having spent well over 10 thousand, and realistically closer to 15,000 (wow, what a waste ) hours on this game.

oh, and archiving the old high scores is a must!!

BS I refuse to see people with lots of free time rewarded for spending a small part of it on this game when those with only a small amout of free time who spemd most of it on here are left out. What you want done Sprockitz is to reward people for spending six of their twelve free hours a day on here while telling those who actualy gave of what they had by rushing home from work every night so they have time to get on and put their bots in missions before going to bed and dragging themselves up early enough so they can put them in before they leave in the morning that there greater effert was not worth it.

I may not be a Christian anymore but I will never forget the lesson of the "Widows Mite"

News Credits: 1 · by **Venomous Prime** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:26 am

sprockitz wrote:everyone that's talking about time, I can't buy it. Because you've been around a long time and haven't earned the xp, is because you HAVE NOT spent the time. There is virtually no skill that goes into succeeding in this game...xp and actual time spent on the game are pretty much the same thing. basing it on when you signed up is just plain stupid. base it on xp, that best correlates to how much time people spent on this game (instead of sleeping, working, eating, attending my wedding...etc etc)

that said, I don't care too much what the recognition is, or even that it exists, just that it isn't given out for something as stupid as that date y'all signed up. The idea of badges is probably the coolest I've seen...would be a nice sign of respect for having spent well over 10 thousand, and realistically closer to 15,000 (wow, what a waste ) hours on this game.

oh, and archiving the old high scores is a must!!

So, because I signed up 3+ years ago and only have 3 cons with 1 Million XP, I will get treated differently because I couldn't play as much for a few brief periods because I was, I don't know homeless? That's just stupid.

I have spent a lot of time on this game, but it took a long time to figure out what works and what doesn't.

Like I said, if there is some sort of "veteran recognition" in V2 then it should be fair.

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:59 am

This is turning into the altmode argument and is going nowhere, OS has already said it will be XP based.

Sprokitz wrote:oh, and archiving the old high scores is a must!!

This is the only bit we should be worrying about really.

by **Supercollider** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 4:39 am

If the archived high scores also include "sign-up" date then frankly the "recognition" or whatever should get to every player who signedup prior to V2. Period.

I wouldn't complain if a select few top players got a 'different' recognition based on xp.

I understand there are long standing players who feel that this is slighting them and yeah I really sympathise as you can only play how much you can spare however (work are going to cut off seibertron and cut my play time by 1/2), like most things in life the rewards go to those who can put the time and effort in.

Sadly it's impossible to measure the level of enjoyment/frustration this game has give you over the time that you've been playing, which would be the only true and utterly fair way to base the recognition. XP does have the advantage of being easily measurable.

by **y2si** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:39 am

i dont mind giving elitism to a few select players, as long as it does not breed arrogance. at the first sign of "well in v1 i woulda kicked your ass", i shall personally enlist all the newbies come july 4th onwards and go wild.

by **Supercollider** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:46 am

y2si wrote:i dont mind giving elitism to a few select players, as long as it does not breed arrogance. at the first sign of "well in v1 i woulda kicked your ass", i shall personally enlist all the newbies come july 4th onwards and go wild.

Yes well high level veteran tags are going to be the equivalent of a "Kick Me" sign anyway!

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:17 am

Supercollider wrote:
y2si wrote:i dont mind giving elitism to a few select players, as long as it does not breed arrogance. at the first sign of "well in v1 i woulda kicked your ass", i shall personally enlist all the newbies come july 4th onwards and go wild.

Yes well high level veteran tags are going to be the equivalent of a "Kick Me" sign anyway!

QFT.

Glad im only about 170 in the high score charts...

News Credits: 2 · by **-Soundwave-** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:43 am

Psychout wrote:This is turning into the altmode argument and is going nowhere, OS has already said it will be XP based.

Sprokitz wrote:oh, and archiving the old high scores is a must!!
This is the only bit we should be worrying about really.

This sounds like Sprockitz is going to stick around. Here's to everyone that TRYS to get above him :p

Psychout wrote:
Supercollider wrote:
y2si wrote:i dont mind giving elitism to a few select players, as long as it does not breed arrogance. at the first sign of "well in v1 i woulda kicked your ass", i shall personally enlist all the newbies come july 4th onwards and go wild.

Yes well high level veteran tags are going to be the equivalent of a "Kick Me" sign anyway!

QFT.

Glad im only about 170 in the high score charts...

*looks* 38th... aww crap.

News Credits: 7 · by **Chaoslock** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:50 am

So, as the arguement goes on, I got an idea:
There could be a badge-sytem, with two main things that decide the badge:
1. The color of the badge: It could be bronze, silver, or gold, depending on the years played in HMW (bronze: 0-1, silver: 1-2, gold: 2++).
2. The badge, mainly would be "V"-s (I don't know how this are called in military), the number of "V"-s depending on the Xp of the teams (or first chars) Xp.

Like Bad Wolf on Facebook · by **Bad Wolf** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:52 pm

VenomusPrime wrote:So, because I signed up 3+ years ago and only have 3 cons with 1 Million XP, I will get treated differently because I couldn't play as much for a few brief periods because I was, I don't know homeless? That's just stupid.

Grimlock86 wrote:So, as the arguement goes on, I got an idea:
There could be a badge-sytem, with two main things that decide the badge:
1. The color of the badge: It could be bronze, silver, or gold, depending on the years played in HMW (bronze: 0-1, silver: 1-2, gold: 2++).
2. The badge, mainly would be "V"-s (I don't know how this are called in military), the number of "V"-s depending on the Xp of the teams (or first chars) Xp.

this is kinda what i had in mind with the "pips"
we could have a dual icons
+ one for time in game (how long playing)
+ another for EXP in previous version(V1)

News Credits: 7 · by **Dragonslayer** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 1:56 pm

Nemesis Prime wrote:
VenomusPrime wrote:So, because I signed up 3+ years ago and only have 3 cons with 1 Million XP, I will get treated differently because I couldn't play as much for a few brief periods because I was, I don't know homeless? That's just stupid.

Grimlock86 wrote:So, as the arguement goes on, I got an idea:
There could be a badge-sytem, with two main things that decide the badge:
1. The color of the badge: It could be bronze, silver, or gold, depending on the years played in HMW (bronze: 0-1, silver: 1-2, gold: 2++).
2. The badge, mainly would be "V"-s (I don't know how this are called in military), the number of "V"-s depending on the Xp of the teams (or first chars) Xp.

this is kinda what i had in mind with the "pips"
we could have a dual icons
+ one for time in game (how long playing)
+ another for EXP in previous version(V1)

I like that idea the best so far. That way nobody is left out and those who deserve special recognition will stand out among others in V2.