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ZeroWolf wrote:It should be pointed out that the only way Crasher was going to get a heavy retool/new mold was if Takara took an interest like with Overdrive and Cosmos. But for whatever reason they didn't.
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ZeroWolf wrote:Man seeing those alt mode pics makes me nostalgic for the 07 movie crasher. Now that was a figure that made the classics mirage mold work. This new one is looks pretty good as well, if legit
Grahf_ wrote:While I understand the want for Crasher from PotP Jazz as I made one myself from Stepper, I still think a Dragstrip retool would've been perfect. The way the parts line up on the chest and their placement on the alt mode as well as the front scoop being just a small retool away from going behind the head, it would've worked so well. Far better than any version of WFC Mirage would've been.
And again, the fact that Dragstrip is a combiner piece doesn't matter as it's barely noticeable. Nothing with the mold is sacrificed for the combining aspect. Not that I would care anyway in the case of Hasbro using PotP Jazz. With Jazz though, it's more to the effect that the mold kind of sucks compared to so many other CW/PotP limbs. Yeah a retool of Jazz would look amazing but since you're retooling the mold anyway to get flip the front and back, why not just put that same retool budget into a better base mold like Dragstrip to get the same effect. The front scoop is so close to working as it is. Seriously, pop them off the shoulders and put them behind the head. They fit perfectly in between the shoulder wheels and don't limit articulation. Not that the second set of wheels would be there though as those would be retooled away.
Just retool the front scoop to move down and back behind the head. Retool the front wheels so there's only one set. Retool the cockpit to not be open. And then retool the spoiler. Maybe retool the engine too I guess.
It's not like I won't get this if it is indeed what's being released though. I just think that it's a letdown.
ZeroWolf wrote:The reason people were for a potp Jazz retool was because the alt modes match.
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:The reason people were for a potp Jazz retool was because the alt modes match.
I might have misunderstood. You're not talking about Crasher, are you?
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:The reason people were for a potp Jazz retool was because the alt modes match.
I might have misunderstood. You're not talking about Crasher, are you?
Nope, he is correct on Crasher.
This is the original everyone is talking about: http://gbwiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Crasher
07 Fracture's altmode was based on a real-life vehicle, which was necessary to get the toy made at the time since Hasbro back then was way more uneasy about doing blatant GoBots homages. Fracture's designer had to convince Hasbro that the toy's deco was based primarily on a real car in order for Hasbro approve the toy getting made.RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:The reason people were for a potp Jazz retool was because the alt modes match.
I might have misunderstood. You're not talking about Crasher, are you?
Nope, he is correct on Crasher.
This is the original everyone is talking about: http://gbwiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Crasher
Oh. I realized I know less about gobots than I though, now 07 thrasher looks like crap to me, the alt mode is waaaaaaaaay off.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:07 Fracture's altmode was based on a real-life vehicle, which was necessary to get the toy made at the time since Hasbro back then was way more uneasy about doing blatant GoBots homages. Fracture's designer had to convince Hasbro that the toy's deco was based primarily on a real car in order for Hasbro approve the toy getting made.RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:The reason people were for a potp Jazz retool was because the alt modes match.
I might have misunderstood. You're not talking about Crasher, are you?
Nope, he is correct on Crasher.
This is the original everyone is talking about: http://gbwiki.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Crasher
Oh. I realized I know less about gobots than I though, now 07 thrasher looks like crap to me, the alt mode is waaaaaaaaay off.
ZeroWolf wrote:I still love that figure
But I thought you hated Movieverse figures.RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I still love that figure
The new crasher just makes me want the 07 one more.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
ZeroWolf wrote:I still love that figure
Emerje wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I still love that figure
As do I, as a movie figure. I almost wish they called the new figure Fracture and "Movie Universe", then we can stop debating if it's a proper homage to the original character or not.
Side note, here's a repaint of PotP Jazz as the white version of Crasher, it's very convincing.
And the real one.
Emerje
Sabrblade wrote:But I thought you hated Movieverse figures.RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I still love that figure
The new crasher just makes me want the 07 one more.![]()
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Emerje wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I still love that figure
As do I, as a movie figure. I almost wish they called the new figure Fracture and "Movie Universe", then we can stop debating if it's a proper homage to the original character or not.
Side note, here's a repaint of PotP Jazz as the white version of Crasher, it's very convincing.
And the real one.
Emerje
This looks good. I'm actually one of those that like the PotP Jazz mold, so I would take this
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