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News Credits: 2 · Tue Jul 31, 2007 8:23 pm

2007 is better, the god awful 80s music of the 80s one ruins what was otherwise a good film

Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:29 pm

I_AM... MEGATRON! wrote:2007 is better, the god awful 80s music of the 80s one ruins what was otherwise a good film

Nope the 86 version is the best, because the 80s music from the 80s was recorded in the 80s. TFM is one of the better flicks of the 80s. A lot of kids grandparents that didn't understand TFM were probably in their 80s back in the 80s.

Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:31 pm

Transmorphers is the true Transformers movie!! It beats em both!

Wed Aug 01, 2007 2:47 am

When i look back, i remember i didn't have any complaints about Movie 86. Not even the music.

My only question that time was, when is the Movie 86 part II coming out?

Me and my classmates were all searching for that mystical Transformers The Movie part II. We really thought it was produced and didn't reach our shores.

We kept up the hope of eventually seeing the part II, until early this millenium. It was only after we saw the tv series with Galvatron and Rodimus Prime in it, in DVD copies, that we finally realized there was no Movie part II.

Dam!

Wed Aug 01, 2007 2:51 am

Coolyfett wrote:
I_AM... MEGATRON! wrote:2007 is better, the god awful 80s music of the 80s one ruins what was otherwise a good film

Nope the 86 version is the best, because the 80s music from the 80s was recorded in the 80s. TFM is one of the better flicks of the 80s. A lot of kids grandparents that didn't understand TFM were probably in their 80s back in the 80s.

That's a LOT of 80s! Whew!

News Credits: 1 · Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:05 am

there was no TFM2 unfortunately, but there was Five Faces of Darkness - which was damn good. 80's cartoon at its best right there.

Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:11 am

When news of a live action movie came out early 2006, we were hoping or wondering if it could be a continuation of the old Movie 86.

Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:12 am

The 1986 film owns the 2007 on so many levels. In 20 years time they will still be talking about the '86 movie (either positivly or negativly) whilst thie 2007 movie will be forgotten. They still talk about the '86 movie nowadays, even if it was badly made.

News Credits: 1 · Wed Aug 01, 2007 3:56 am

2007 so bad. Lol how can you ask a question like that? :-P

Terrible...

Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:49 am

Auto Bot wrote:When news of a live action movie came out early 2006, we were hoping or wondering if it could be a continuation of the old Movie 86.

Hmmm I sorta had the same idea, but I am glad they didn't do that. But I do hope they pay homage to TFM in TF2 and TF3...Maybe with some recycled lines that we love.

I also thought there was going to be a sequel to TFM. I am also glad they didn't do that.

TF2 I hope will be the best movie of all TF movies!!

Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:53 am

tom_p1980 wrote:The 1986 film owns the 2007 on so many levels. In 20 years time they will still be talking about the '86 movie (either positivly or negativly) whilst thie 2007 movie will be forgotten. They still talk about the '86 movie nowadays, even if it was badly made.

I agree TFM is better than TF1... but with TF2 and TF3 on the way. I don't think the fans will forget TF1. TF1 is the first time we all see Prime, Bumblebee, Ironhide, Jazz & Ratchet in LIVE ACTION. Who would forget that?

Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:00 am

The 86 Movie... god I'll always love it, but I have to admit it was one of the most poorly written films I have ever seen. The entire planet of junk sequence makes me come out in hives, and the script makes the new movie seem like it was written by Hemingway.

Still though, I wouldn't say you can really compare them - different mediums, 20 year gap.. If one was a remake of the other then yeah, compare all you like.

I love them both for very different reasons. Would love to get the original cheese metal soundtrack dubbed over the 07 movie though. That would rock...

News Credits: 4 · Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:16 am

tom_p1980 wrote:The 1986 film owns the 2007 on so many levels. In 20 years time they will still be talking about the '86 movie (either positivly or negativly) whilst thie 2007 movie will be forgotten. They still talk about the '86 movie nowadays, even if it was badly made.

In your opinion. (which isn't any more relevant or correct then mine, so just remember that)

This topic should be called "What did you like better", not, "What was better". There are to many people who don't understand that you can't really compare the two in a cinematic and historical sense, not sure if it's just because they don't think that way, or they will just use any excuse to say something sucks.

Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:36 am

Briggs wrote:
tom_p1980 wrote:The 1986 film owns the 2007 on so many levels. In 20 years time they will still be talking about the '86 movie (either positivly or negativly) whilst thie 2007 movie will be forgotten. They still talk about the '86 movie nowadays, even if it was badly made.

There are to many people who don't understand that you can't really compare the two in a cinematic and historical sense

According to WHO?? YOU?? YOU set the rules on what can be compared and what can not be compared?? :lol:

They are both TRANSFORMER MOVIES, of course fans will compare the 2 finished films. The fans WILL compare all 4 films when TF2 and TF3 are finished also. Historical sense is just predictions and guesses right now buddy.

Most people have viewed TF1 and TFM enough to say "I like this one better"

News Credits: 4 · Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:49 am

Coolyfett wrote:
Briggs wrote:
tom_p1980 wrote:The 1986 film owns the 2007 on so many levels. In 20 years time they will still be talking about the '86 movie (either positivly or negativly) whilst thie 2007 movie will be forgotten. They still talk about the '86 movie nowadays, even if it was badly made.

There are to many people who don't understand that you can't really compare the two in a cinematic and historical sense

According to WHO?? YOU?? YOU set the rules on what can be compared and what can not be compared??

They are both TRANSFORMER MOVIES, of course fans will compare the 2 finished films. The fans WILL compare all 4 films when TF2 and TF3 are finished also. Historical sense is just predictions and guesses right now buddy.

Most people have viewed TF1 and TFM enough to say "I like this one better"

Yes, to me. Well done.

Just to make it clear.. people will *compare* in the sense of "I liked this one better". That's it.

"I liked this one better because of the music", ok, well, that's great, but another personal taste thing. 20 year difference in the music, or the animations.

To get technical..

If the question was "What was better, TF Season 1 + TF Season 2 + 86 movie, or TFM 2007?", that might be a bit more fair question.

Or, of course, if TFM 2007 was suppose to be a remake of 86, or continuation, or anything in the same continuity, then again it could be a fair comparison.

Otherwise it's all personal opinions and tastes, nothing that really will answer, "What was better", as a film.

The end, of course, all in my personal opinion of how I think the quesiton should be asked

Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:53 am

No doubt.... PM sent

News Credits: 1 · Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:02 am

As a child of the 80's (and probably still am!), there's absolutely no doubt as to which one I'd choose.

Gotta be the original, all the way...

News Credits: 2 · Wed Aug 01, 2007 10:46 am

Whisper wrote:As a child of the 80's (and probably still am!), there's absolutely no doubt as to which one I'd choose.

Gotta be the original, all the way...

Whisper I just gotta say it, your sig is hilarious!

Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:43 am

I love them both but I feel like they are two very different things. It is much easier to suspend disbelief and accept the impossible when watching a cartoon than when watching live action. For those who think the 86 movie would work in live action, I have to disagree. Also, the 2007 flick wasn't made just for fans, but to draw in as much of the general population as possible. The cartoon was made for kids who already knew all the characters and what was going on. A lot of people going into the 2007 movie have no clue about whats going on and have to rely on the movie to tell them everything. Like somebody else said, origin or introductory movies like this can drag a little because they have to set everything up. The next movie shouldn't have that problem.

Wed Aug 01, 2007 11:49 am

The original and the new one are my faves

Wed Aug 01, 2007 2:09 pm

As much as I liked Michael Bays, I have to say the original.

Simply for the fact of the design of the transformers in Michael Bays film were more like cyborgs. Also the original is one of my fave movies of all time