Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance
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Over from CinemaCon, where some new footage is being shown by Paramount for the upcoming Transformers: The Last Knight movie - if you're interested, you can find out more here, though be warned for spoilers - the film's cast and Michael Bay are pressing and schmoozing, and social media is there to document it! You can check out Laura Haddock, Isabela Moner, Mark Wahlberg, Anthony Hopkins, Jerrod Carmichael in the images below, and take a look at the official clip from Twitter, too.
Backstage and ready to roll out at #CinemaCon. #TransformersTuesday pic.twitter.com/qpqF8yIzue
— #TRANSFORMERS (@transformers) March 29, 2017
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Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1870152)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on March 29th, 2017 @ 4:35am CDT
So, again, you're saying that we know something is a coincidence because it's not an homage, and we know that because we know it's a coincidence.
I don't even actually like the movies, but you guys are driving me nuts. You're using "coincidence" as a preclusion rather than a conclusion.
If you have a concurrence, naturally you should wonder if the concurrent events are correlated with one another. If you can find no evidence that the incidents are correlated, you can reasonably conclude that they're only concurrent - they are coincidental (or, you might say, you "fail to reject the null hypothesis"). Fair enough. It doesn't make sense, though, to eliminate a large portion of your 'data' from your 'analysis' on the premise that the concurrent events are coincidences. You're eliminating evidence based on a presumption about the conclusion you're trying to arrive at in the end.
Let's say I was looking at two research papers (or maybe two short stories or comic books - the medium doesn't really matter, what matters is we have an old one and a new one). The new one has a dozen different things that are very similar to the old one, so I suggest that the new one is based on the old one. The author pulls out a dozen other research papers, and says that clearly paper #2 is not ripping off paper #1, because each of the dozen things that is similar between paper #2 and paper #1, is also similar between paper #2 and one of the other dozen or so papers - the fact that it has so many similarities to this previous research paper is coincidence. Should I be convinced that paper #2 isn't plagiarized from paper #1? And by extension, if the author had said upfront that paper #2 was based on paper #1, and gave full credit, would I have cause to dismiss that claim?
Basically, (to return to Ryan's example) in order to prove that the face on mars is a matter of imagination we should have to send a $154 million probe to take better pictures demonstrate that people are just as likely to see faces in a series of randomly selected ambiguous shapes (e.g., ink blots) as in a series of photos of Mars.
So, in the context of the movies, to conclude that the similarity between the movies and the precedent Transformers properties is coincidental, we'd have to be saying that the points of similarity are not only shared with other science fiction properties, but that the movie takes no more cues from the Transformers series than it does from any other single series. In other words, to conclude that the similarities between the movies and the preceding series are a matter of chance, rather than design, we should be able to choose any science fiction series at random and see roughly the same number of similarities.
Posted by Dr. Caelus on March 29th, 2017 @ 4:35am CDT
Deadput wrote:Caelus wrote:So how many coincidental similarities would there have to be be before the similarities were no longer considered coincidental?
When their actually homages and not just coincidences
So, again, you're saying that we know something is a coincidence because it's not an homage, and we know that because we know it's a coincidence.
I don't even actually like the movies, but you guys are driving me nuts. You're using "coincidence" as a preclusion rather than a conclusion.
If you have a concurrence, naturally you should wonder if the concurrent events are correlated with one another. If you can find no evidence that the incidents are correlated, you can reasonably conclude that they're only concurrent - they are coincidental (or, you might say, you "fail to reject the null hypothesis"). Fair enough. It doesn't make sense, though, to eliminate a large portion of your 'data' from your 'analysis' on the premise that the concurrent events are coincidences. You're eliminating evidence based on a presumption about the conclusion you're trying to arrive at in the end.
Let's say I was looking at two research papers (or maybe two short stories or comic books - the medium doesn't really matter, what matters is we have an old one and a new one). The new one has a dozen different things that are very similar to the old one, so I suggest that the new one is based on the old one. The author pulls out a dozen other research papers, and says that clearly paper #2 is not ripping off paper #1, because each of the dozen things that is similar between paper #2 and paper #1, is also similar between paper #2 and one of the other dozen or so papers - the fact that it has so many similarities to this previous research paper is coincidence. Should I be convinced that paper #2 isn't plagiarized from paper #1? And by extension, if the author had said upfront that paper #2 was based on paper #1, and gave full credit, would I have cause to dismiss that claim?
Basically, (to return to Ryan's example) in order to prove that the face on mars is a matter of imagination we should have to send a $154 million probe to take better pictures demonstrate that people are just as likely to see faces in a series of randomly selected ambiguous shapes (e.g., ink blots) as in a series of photos of Mars.
So, in the context of the movies, to conclude that the similarity between the movies and the precedent Transformers properties is coincidental, we'd have to be saying that the points of similarity are not only shared with other science fiction properties, but that the movie takes no more cues from the Transformers series than it does from any other single series. In other words, to conclude that the similarities between the movies and the preceding series are a matter of chance, rather than design, we should be able to choose any science fiction series at random and see roughly the same number of similarities.
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1870175)
Posted by Dagon on March 29th, 2017 @ 8:34am CDT
While all of what you say is true, it is still a valid criticism all these years after the start of the live action franchise. Some people may be ok with a lack of plot or a lack of quality plot; others may not be. I don't feel that action and plot are mutually exclusive, and for ten years now, have never been convinced otherwise by the powerhouse argument of "it's an action movie". I'd honestly find it much more convincing, and subsequently find the movies far more enjoyable, if the argument was "they show you a bunch of decent images and you just make up your own story." Choose Your Own Adventure.
Posted by Dagon on March 29th, 2017 @ 8:34am CDT
Kurona wrote:Eh, it's an action movie. It's not heavy on plot and it really shouldn't be; movies of this sort work best with a relatively simple plot that's easy to follow with a few twists and turns inserted in there somewhere. It shares that much in common with the original cartoon:-
“...we feel action should be emphasised over plot—especially avoiding any complicated story lines—to ensure the success of this series with its intended viewers.”
—Bryce Malek and Dick Robbins
While all of what you say is true, it is still a valid criticism all these years after the start of the live action franchise. Some people may be ok with a lack of plot or a lack of quality plot; others may not be. I don't feel that action and plot are mutually exclusive, and for ten years now, have never been convinced otherwise by the powerhouse argument of "it's an action movie". I'd honestly find it much more convincing, and subsequently find the movies far more enjoyable, if the argument was "they show you a bunch of decent images and you just make up your own story." Choose Your Own Adventure.
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1870205)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on March 29th, 2017 @ 9:53am CDT
That would be interesting; that sounds like it could be Shia Lebouef's next project.
Posted by Dr. Caelus on March 29th, 2017 @ 9:53am CDT
Dagon wrote: I'd honestly find it much more convincing, and subsequently find the movies far more enjoyable, if the argument was "they show you a bunch of decent images and you just make up your own story." Choose Your Own Adventure.
That would be interesting; that sounds like it could be Shia Lebouef's next project.
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1870260)
Posted by Va'al on March 29th, 2017 @ 12:05pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on March 29th, 2017 @ 12:05pm CDT
The official website for Paramount's Transformers: The Last Knight live-action movie has appeared online fully updated, including videos, clips, teasers, trailers, the official synopsis and robot cast bios and links to the social media accounts (plus a new background track from the movie score). Check it out here, and let us know what you think of our coverage of the early footage and information we were able to gain access to via Paramount direct!
The Last Knight shatters the core myths of the Transformers franchise, and redefines what it means to be a hero. Humans and Transformers are at war, Optimus Prime is gone. The key to saving our future lies buried in the secrets of the past, in the hidden history of Transformers on Earth. Saving our world falls upon the shoulders of an unlikely alliance: Cade Yeager (Mark Wahlberg); Bumblebee; an English Lord (Sir Anthony Hopkins); and an Oxford Professor (Laura Haddock).
There comes a moment in everyone’s life when we are called upon to make a difference. In Transformers: The Last Knight, the hunted will become heroes. Heroes will become villains. Only one world will survive: theirs, or ours.
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1870262)
Posted by SlyTF1 on March 29th, 2017 @ 12:12pm CDT
Well, considering the fact that I often publicly REBUKE and CONDEMN people, in defense of these movies, the least they could do is send me a notification.
Posted by SlyTF1 on March 29th, 2017 @ 12:12pm CDT
Deadput wrote:Seibertron wrote:Deadput wrote:Thanks anyways I was wondering if anyone else from Seibertron went to the event or if it was just you?
It was just me from Seibertron.com along with one representative each from bwtf.com, unicron.com, tfwiki.net, tfw2005.com, tformers.com, allspark.com, and Marcelo Matere! The rest of the group was filled out with Michael Bay superfans and Transformers fans from around the world.
Bay superfans eh? Wonder if I missed my invite in the mail
Oh and perhaps Sly too if anyone in the world is a superfan it's that guy.
Well, considering the fact that I often publicly REBUKE and CONDEMN people, in defense of these movies, the least they could do is send me a notification.
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1870486)
Posted by Autobot N on March 30th, 2017 @ 8:35am CDT
Posted by Autobot N on March 30th, 2017 @ 8:35am CDT
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1870488)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 30th, 2017 @ 8:38am CDT
That's actually pretty awesome, concerning Bee and Hopkins
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 30th, 2017 @ 8:38am CDT
Autobot N wrote:http://screenrant.com/transformers-5-last-knight-trailer-cinemacon-bumblebee/
Article says that Canopy manages to escape.
That's actually pretty awesome, concerning Bee and Hopkins
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1870613)
Posted by Deadput on March 30th, 2017 @ 6:08pm CDT
Most people say that Canopy dies though so it's inconsistent.
Posted by Deadput on March 30th, 2017 @ 6:08pm CDT
Autobot N wrote:http://screenrant.com/transformers-5-last-knight-trailer-cinemacon-bumblebee/
Article says that Canopy manages to escape.
Most people say that Canopy dies though so it's inconsistent.
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871114)
Posted by Arsnof on April 2nd, 2017 @ 1:43pm CDT
A lot of the criticisms about the movies (ESPECIALLY the first couple) were that the Transformers themselves didn't get a lot of screen time compared to the human characters and that when they did, they were hard to tell apart. This lack of screen time led to the lack of character depth and was caused mainly by design.
There was a lot of complaining early on about how the design of the Transformers was far too complicated; basically a skeleton with wires and pistons and various gizmos and doodads barely covered up by bits and pieces of the vehicle mode. This did two things; the first being small - they were so similar in build and color that it was hard to tell them apart during fight scenes or just walking around together. The second being that, especially for the technology at the time, it was incredibly difficult to animate them. So many moving parts, so many exposed surfaces, so many exposed bits and pieces all over the place takes a LOT of time and money to render.
To put any Transformer up on the screen for longer than they did, even if it was to give more depth or more backstory that would have made the movie that much better would have cost hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars more and hundred of man and computer hours that they didn't have in the budget. So they sacrificed story for substance.
I honestly think that's why a lot of the story has been becoming more robo-centric and the designs since have been getting more and more individual and recognizable. Look at the most recent rounds of design releases. Much more solid coverage, much more color, much more variance in shape and height. And, if these previews and trailers are to be believed, much, much more presence in the movie. Which is why I'm going to give it one more try.
And then his only line in the entire movie was basically " 'Sup, bitches?"...
Posted by Arsnof on April 2nd, 2017 @ 1:43pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Deadput wrote:I think when people want more "character" their talking about screen-time and lines which we definitely got in the last movie with Optimus (as always), Crosshairs, Hound, Lockdown.
Bumblebee was a bit less of a screen hog in Aoe with Hound pretty much taking his place in the movie and Drift was good too although he got the less screen time out of all the main Autobots in that movie doesn't help that it's difficult to make a stoic personality stick out compared to loud or snarky ones such as Hound and Crosshairs.
The only characters I felt needing more screen time were The Dinobots (Although I understand since they show up at the end of the movie not much time to develop character there although a line or two from Grimlock would help at least Grimlock is coming back) and some more screemtime or at least some action scenes to make Stinger stand out more then he actually did in the final film since it's obvious compared to what we saw during filming that several scenes with Stinger were cut out of the movie.
Oh true, characters are certainly important and AoE making its Autobot cast stand out a lot more compared to the previous movies was certainly an improvement - while action should be prioritised, one should also make an effort to have the characters stand out a little and be enjoyable and likeable. Nothing groundbreaking or full of depth; but just someone that you might be able to relate to on some small level and someone who you're rooting for when they're taking the fight to the bad guys. So you can certainly criticise these movies for not having likeable, enjoyable characters if that's how you feel (it's personally how I feel; I find Optimus in these movies to be an extremely unlikable character for instance - but that's not the point I'm making here and I won't bore you all by going into why).
What I was getting at is that a lot of people seem to criticise the movie for having plots and characters that lack depth. But, as I keep saying, that's generally how action movies work best. It's not where you look for your deeply impactful stories or something that will re-define cinema for generations or have characters the like of which you've never seen before. I mean hey, maybe these movies do do that for you; I dunno. If they do, all the power to you! But for those complaining that they don't... this is a summer action blockbuster. You go in, you have fun, you get out. That's generally the point, so I don't see much worth in complaining that the first movie's story was simple or that Hound doesn't have a deeply developed backstory. One of the few points I'll agree with Bay on is that ROTF having an overly-complex mythos was a detriment because it's distracting from what should be the focus; the action.
A lot of the criticisms about the movies (ESPECIALLY the first couple) were that the Transformers themselves didn't get a lot of screen time compared to the human characters and that when they did, they were hard to tell apart. This lack of screen time led to the lack of character depth and was caused mainly by design.
There was a lot of complaining early on about how the design of the Transformers was far too complicated; basically a skeleton with wires and pistons and various gizmos and doodads barely covered up by bits and pieces of the vehicle mode. This did two things; the first being small - they were so similar in build and color that it was hard to tell them apart during fight scenes or just walking around together. The second being that, especially for the technology at the time, it was incredibly difficult to animate them. So many moving parts, so many exposed surfaces, so many exposed bits and pieces all over the place takes a LOT of time and money to render.
To put any Transformer up on the screen for longer than they did, even if it was to give more depth or more backstory that would have made the movie that much better would have cost hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars more and hundred of man and computer hours that they didn't have in the budget. So they sacrificed story for substance.
I honestly think that's why a lot of the story has been becoming more robo-centric and the designs since have been getting more and more individual and recognizable. Look at the most recent rounds of design releases. Much more solid coverage, much more color, much more variance in shape and height. And, if these previews and trailers are to be believed, much, much more presence in the movie. Which is why I'm going to give it one more try.
Kurona wrote:... in my opinion, one of the best movie designs was Jazz. He had enough visual cues from the original character to tell you that, yes, this is Jazz (the visor, the hood chest, I'm pretty sure he turned into a porche?) while also having enough new traits to give him his own visual identity separate from the original while still clearly being an update. I personally would have given him a colour scheme more reminiscent of his G1 self, but that's just my own personal aesthetic preference; I like a bit of colour compared to the grays and silvers.
And then his only line in the entire movie was basically " 'Sup, bitches?"...
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871117)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 2nd, 2017 @ 1:51pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 2nd, 2017 @ 1:51pm CDT
He had more lines than that. Just, not as memorable.Arsnof wrote:Kurona wrote:... in my opinion, one of the best movie designs was Jazz. He had enough visual cues from the original character to tell you that, yes, this is Jazz (the visor, the hood chest, I'm pretty sure he turned into a porche?) while also having enough new traits to give him his own visual identity separate from the original while still clearly being an update. I personally would have given him a colour scheme more reminiscent of his G1 self, but that's just my own personal aesthetic preference; I like a bit of colour compared to the grays and silvers.
And then his only line in the entire movie was basically " 'Sup, bitches?"...
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871118)
Posted by Kurona on April 2nd, 2017 @ 1:52pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on April 2nd, 2017 @ 1:52pm CDT
There was that thing he said right before he died!
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871120)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 2nd, 2017 @ 1:55pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 2nd, 2017 @ 1:55pm CDT
In all honesty, I could go skim through Jazz's scenes of the movie and transcribe every line he said (and some of them were good lines), but I just don't want to right now.Kurona wrote:There was that thing he said right before he died!
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871125)
Posted by Arsnof on April 2nd, 2017 @ 2:59pm CDT
Posted by Arsnof on April 2nd, 2017 @ 2:59pm CDT
From IMDB:
Transformers (2007)
Jazz: Is that all you got, Megatron?
Megatron: Come here, you little cretin!
[Megatron grabs Jazz, but Jazz opens fire with his blaster]
Jazz: You want a piece of me? You want a piece?
Megatron: No, I want TWO!
[rips Jazz in half]
Jazz: It's Megatron! Retreat! Move! Fall back!
Jazz: [jumping on Devastator] Come on, Decepticon punk!
Jazz: What's crackin' little bitches?
[does a somersault]
Optimus Prime: My first lieutenant. Designation: Jazz.
Jazz: This looks like a cool place to kick it!
Jazz: What about Bumblebee? We can't just leave him to die and become some human experiment!
Optimus Prime: He'll die in vain if we don't accomplish our mission. Bumblebee is a brave soldier. This is what he would want.
Jazz: Fire it up, Optimus!
Optimus Prime: Autobots, roll out!
Jazz: We rollin'!
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871127)
Posted by Kurona on April 2nd, 2017 @ 3:05pm CDT
This brings to mind a way funnier scene than the movie's script has any right to...
Posted by Kurona on April 2nd, 2017 @ 3:05pm CDT
Arsnof wrote:Jazz: What's crackin' little bitches?
[does a somersault]
Optimus Prime: My first lieutenant. Designation: Jazz.
Jazz: This looks like a cool place to kick it!
This brings to mind a way funnier scene than the movie's script has any right to...
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871219)
Posted by Deadput on April 2nd, 2017 @ 8:40pm CDT
He also said a few more other lines but most of them were harder to hear I can think of three of them.
1: When their trying to hide in Sam's backyard this one is a bit hard to hear due to the music in the scene and Jazz is pretty much whispering.
Jazz: Hide? Hide where? Oh no Oh no.
2: When Jazz uses his magnet hands to take away S7 Guns
Jazz: Give me those!
3: When Bee is captured and Jazz, Ironhide and Ratchet pull up to Optimus right before he talks to Optimus about Bumblebee he tells them to stay there.
Jazz: Hang back, let me check it out.
So all in all Jazz did have plenty of lines but most of them were easy to miss in fact some of them I only heard due to a combination of headphones and subtitles since when I rewatch the the movies I use subtitles to find hidden or misheard dialogue such as Mixmaster's "listen up" and Shockwave's "Driller bot is thirsty".
Posted by Deadput on April 2nd, 2017 @ 8:40pm CDT
Arsnof wrote:From IMDB:Transformers (2007)
Jazz: Is that all you got, Megatron?
Megatron: Come here, you little cretin!
[Megatron grabs Jazz, but Jazz opens fire with his blaster]
Jazz: You want a piece of me? You want a piece?
Megatron: No, I want TWO!
[rips Jazz in half]
Jazz: It's Megatron! Retreat! Move! Fall back!
Jazz: [jumping on Devastator] Come on, Decepticon punk!
Jazz: What's crackin' little bitches?
[does a somersault]
Optimus Prime: My first lieutenant. Designation: Jazz.
Jazz: This looks like a cool place to kick it!
Jazz: What about Bumblebee? We can't just leave him to die and become some human experiment!
Optimus Prime: He'll die in vain if we don't accomplish our mission. Bumblebee is a brave soldier. This is what he would want.
Jazz: Fire it up, Optimus!
Optimus Prime: Autobots, roll out!
Jazz: We rollin'!
He also said a few more other lines but most of them were harder to hear I can think of three of them.
1: When their trying to hide in Sam's backyard this one is a bit hard to hear due to the music in the scene and Jazz is pretty much whispering.
Jazz: Hide? Hide where? Oh no Oh no.
2: When Jazz uses his magnet hands to take away S7 Guns
Jazz: Give me those!
3: When Bee is captured and Jazz, Ironhide and Ratchet pull up to Optimus right before he talks to Optimus about Bumblebee he tells them to stay there.
Jazz: Hang back, let me check it out.
So all in all Jazz did have plenty of lines but most of them were easy to miss in fact some of them I only heard due to a combination of headphones and subtitles since when I rewatch the the movies I use subtitles to find hidden or misheard dialogue such as Mixmaster's "listen up" and Shockwave's "Driller bot is thirsty".
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871424)
Posted by MadProject on April 3rd, 2017 @ 3:16pm CDT
Posted by MadProject on April 3rd, 2017 @ 3:16pm CDT
New rendering for Hot Rod. I don't know the original source, but it should be from Weibo
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871467)
Posted by Arsnof on April 3rd, 2017 @ 7:10pm CDT
Honestly, I'm surprised that most of the right shapes are there (minus the Wolverine exhausts, but I'm strangely okay with that?) but the colors are all wrong. I AM FULL OF MIXED EMOTIONS.
Posted by Arsnof on April 3rd, 2017 @ 7:10pm CDT
MadProject wrote:New rendering for Hot Rod. I don't know the original source, but it should be from Weibo
Honestly, I'm surprised that most of the right shapes are there (minus the Wolverine exhausts, but I'm strangely okay with that?) but the colors are all wrong. I AM FULL OF MIXED EMOTIONS.
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871469)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 3rd, 2017 @ 7:19pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 3rd, 2017 @ 7:19pm CDT
Thanks to Weibo user 变形金刚改造工厂的淘宝店 we have some new CGI renderings of the Transformers: The Last Knight Hot Rod! Since being confirmed as a character back in August of last year, Hot Rod has garnered little attention, with only a brief vehicle mode shot in the first trailer and a metal die-cast toy to speak of. The new image shows Hot Rod in 3 different poses, showing off how similar he looks to Bumblebee - who is supposed to be his "brother in arms" - and how he looks standing, bracing, and jumping. Check out the new images below!
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871471)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 3rd, 2017 @ 7:20pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 3rd, 2017 @ 7:20pm CDT
He honestly does look good, and I do like his similarity to Bee yet being a whole new fellow. The only bit I'm not too mad on is the face, but we really haven't seen much of him yet
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Posted by Deadput on April 3rd, 2017 @ 7:28pm CDT
Posted by Deadput on April 3rd, 2017 @ 7:28pm CDT
Well someone on another site zoomed on Hot Rod's face and well... there is a young face there it all makes sense now. (look at the chin you can see the mouth and I feel stupid for not noticing it sooner)
Looks a bit better now to me.
Looks a bit better now to me.
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871475)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 3rd, 2017 @ 7:30pm CDT
Ok, that is much better. I can actually see a mouth that I didn't know he had and I can clearly see his optics. That looks much better
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 3rd, 2017 @ 7:30pm CDT
Deadput wrote:Well someone on another site zoomed on Hot Rod's face and well... there is a young face there it all makes sense now. (look at the chin you can see the mouth and I feel stupid for not noticing it sooner)
Looks a bit better now to me.
Ok, that is much better. I can actually see a mouth that I didn't know he had and I can clearly see his optics. That looks much better
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871511)
Posted by Deadput on April 3rd, 2017 @ 8:46pm CDT
It is a very humanoid face which is something people have been wanting from the films.
Yet Dino's beautiful face will never be beaten.
Posted by Deadput on April 3rd, 2017 @ 8:46pm CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Ok, that is much better. I can actually see a mouth that I didn't know he had and I can clearly see his optics. That looks much better
It is a very humanoid face which is something people have been wanting from the films.
Yet Dino's beautiful face will never be beaten.
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871514)
Posted by Arsnof on April 3rd, 2017 @ 8:54pm CDT
Now that is a better face than 90% of the rest of the series. I'd only say either move the orange bit up above the brow or leave it there and color the bit over the eyes yellow and they got it. Still, DAYUM. So much better.
Posted by Arsnof on April 3rd, 2017 @ 8:54pm CDT
Deadput wrote:Well someone on another site zoomed on Hot Rod's face and well... there is a young face there it all makes sense now. (look at the chin you can see the mouth and I feel stupid for not noticing it sooner)
Looks a bit better now to me.
Now that is a better face than 90% of the rest of the series. I'd only say either move the orange bit up above the brow or leave it there and color the bit over the eyes yellow and they got it. Still, DAYUM. So much better.
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871516)
Posted by Seibertron on April 3rd, 2017 @ 8:57pm CDT
All of the movie faces are a disaster in my opinion. I gave up after the first movie. Optimus with the face shield used to look somewhat OK, but whatever they did to it for this movie made it a mess too. I don't understand why their faces have to be so overly complicated and weird looking. I'm assuming that they must look too cartoonish the more humanoid they look, but there's got to be a compromise somewhere.
Even from a design perspective, it seems like making Hot Rod's "face" silver or some other contrasting color to make it stand out against the color of his head would help make it pop some more to help give visual cues what we're looking at. We shouldn't be having to figure out that he has a humanoid face because someone did some highly zoomed in crop of an image of his head.
Posted by Seibertron on April 3rd, 2017 @ 8:57pm CDT
Deadput wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Ok, that is much better. I can actually see a mouth that I didn't know he had and I can clearly see his optics. That looks much better
It is a very humanoid face which is something people have been wanting from the films.
Yet Dino's beautiful face will never be beaten.
All of the movie faces are a disaster in my opinion. I gave up after the first movie. Optimus with the face shield used to look somewhat OK, but whatever they did to it for this movie made it a mess too. I don't understand why their faces have to be so overly complicated and weird looking. I'm assuming that they must look too cartoonish the more humanoid they look, but there's got to be a compromise somewhere.
Even from a design perspective, it seems like making Hot Rod's "face" silver or some other contrasting color to make it stand out against the color of his head would help make it pop some more to help give visual cues what we're looking at. We shouldn't be having to figure out that he has a humanoid face because someone did some highly zoomed in crop of an image of his head.
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871517)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 3rd, 2017 @ 9:00pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 3rd, 2017 @ 9:00pm CDT
We have learned that Flickering Myth managed to snag an exclusive interview with Isabela Moner, the rising star in Transformers: The Last Knight! The interview is a video interview, and features questions dealing with her role in the movie, her upcoming movie roles, her CinemaCon award, and more, such as the revelation that she got into Transformers by watching it with her brothers when she was younger. Check out the video below!
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871521)
Posted by Deadput on April 3rd, 2017 @ 9:06pm CDT
Well what's done is done the best we can hope for in the future are more faces like Crosshairs, Drift and Hound that are easy to make out but are distinct to thier character.
At least for the Autobots their faces are a bit creative and distinct from each other compared to G1 where you needed a different helmet, visor or different mouthplate shape to make them distinct because all the "liquid metal" human faces were 100 identical.
There really is no win win for any of us since for the franchise as a whole faces are either going to be to generic or too complicated.
Posted by Deadput on April 3rd, 2017 @ 9:06pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:
All of the movie faces are a disaster in my opinion. I gave up after the first movie. Optimus with the face shield used to look somewhat OK, but whatever they did to it for this movie made it a mess too. I don't understand why their faces have to be so overly complicated and weird looking. I'm assuming that they must look too cartoonish the more humanoid they look, but there's got to be a compromise somewhere.
Even from a design perspective, it seems like making Hot Rod's "face" silver or some other contrasting color to make it stand out against the color of his head would help make it pop some more to help give visual cues what we're looking at. We shouldn't be having to figure out that he has a humanoid face because someone did some highly zoomed in crop of an image of his head.
Well what's done is done the best we can hope for in the future are more faces like Crosshairs, Drift and Hound that are easy to make out but are distinct to thier character.
At least for the Autobots their faces are a bit creative and distinct from each other compared to G1 where you needed a different helmet, visor or different mouthplate shape to make them distinct because all the "liquid metal" human faces were 100 identical.
There really is no win win for any of us since for the franchise as a whole faces are either going to be to generic or too complicated.
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871522)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 3rd, 2017 @ 9:07pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 3rd, 2017 @ 9:07pm CDT
Just saying, Hound wins for faces. I love his, it is literally perfect.
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871530)
Posted by Kurona on April 3rd, 2017 @ 9:29pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on April 3rd, 2017 @ 9:29pm CDT
I think I felt myself actually back away from my laptop for a second when I noticed Hot Rod's mouth... that is 100% creepy, not gonna lie.
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871533)
Posted by Deadput on April 3rd, 2017 @ 9:33pm CDT
You should watch out Hot Rod knows where you live lol.
Posted by Deadput on April 3rd, 2017 @ 9:33pm CDT
Kurona wrote:I think I felt myself actually back away from my laptop for a second when I noticed Hot Rod's mouth... that is 100% creepy, not gonna lie.
You should watch out Hot Rod knows where you live lol.
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871537)
Posted by Kurona on April 3rd, 2017 @ 9:41pm CDT
Doling out vengeance as he discovers I like every Hot Rod/Rodimus except him
My defence will be saying that Armada Hot Shot was called Hot Rod in Micron Legend, and I certainly don't like him either
On a slightly more serious note Transformers does get off kinda lucky when it comes to face designs, especially recently. Faceplates and Visors alone bring in some variety, and then you've got stuff like Windblade - whether you like her and her design or not, you've gotta admit that face certainly ain't generic.
Posted by Kurona on April 3rd, 2017 @ 9:41pm CDT
Deadput wrote:Kurona wrote:I think I felt myself actually back away from my laptop for a second when I noticed Hot Rod's mouth... that is 100% creepy, not gonna lie.
You should watch out Hot Rod knows where you live lol.
Doling out vengeance as he discovers I like every Hot Rod/Rodimus except him
My defence will be saying that Armada Hot Shot was called Hot Rod in Micron Legend, and I certainly don't like him either
On a slightly more serious note Transformers does get off kinda lucky when it comes to face designs, especially recently. Faceplates and Visors alone bring in some variety, and then you've got stuff like Windblade - whether you like her and her design or not, you've gotta admit that face certainly ain't generic.
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871551)
Posted by Deadput on April 3rd, 2017 @ 10:03pm CDT
Yup I was kinda put off by Windlbabe's head at first but I'm starting to like it due to the fact that Windblade is a much more original character in most of the Transformers franchise then say any Arcee.
Speaking of her do any of you think she might have a role in this film?
She "could" be the red Mclaren but I doubt it and think said car is actually a returning Dino which I think there might be a small chance since "Mirage" is getting a toy in the Tiny Changers line but then again characters such as Blackout, Starscream, Lockdown and Sideswipe are getting one too and their pretty much not in the movie due to most of them being...well dead.
Posted by Deadput on April 3rd, 2017 @ 10:03pm CDT
Kurona wrote:Doling out vengeance as he discovers I like every Hot Rod/Rodimus except him
My defence will be saying that Armada Hot Shot was called Hot Rod in Micron Legend, and I certainly don't like him either
On a slightly more serious note Transformers does get off kinda lucky when it comes to face designs, especially recently. Faceplates and Visors alone bring in some variety, and then you've got stuff like Windblade - whether you like her and her design or not, you've gotta admit that face certainly ain't generic.
Yup I was kinda put off by Windlbabe's head at first but I'm starting to like it due to the fact that Windblade is a much more original character in most of the Transformers franchise then say any Arcee.
Speaking of her do any of you think she might have a role in this film?
She "could" be the red Mclaren but I doubt it and think said car is actually a returning Dino which I think there might be a small chance since "Mirage" is getting a toy in the Tiny Changers line but then again characters such as Blackout, Starscream, Lockdown and Sideswipe are getting one too and their pretty much not in the movie due to most of them being...well dead.
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871563)
Posted by Seibertron on April 3rd, 2017 @ 11:04pm CDT
No I don't. She wasn't listed on any of the character sheets of the hundreds of characters shown in those scale sheets at the Last Knight set in Detroit last summer.
Posted by Seibertron on April 3rd, 2017 @ 11:04pm CDT
Deadput wrote:Speaking of her do any of you think she might have a role in this film?
No I don't. She wasn't listed on any of the character sheets of the hundreds of characters shown in those scale sheets at the Last Knight set in Detroit last summer.
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871565)
Posted by ToaLeePrime on April 3rd, 2017 @ 11:11pm CDT
Posted by ToaLeePrime on April 3rd, 2017 @ 11:11pm CDT
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871568)
Posted by Deadput on April 3rd, 2017 @ 11:23pm CDT
A few questions. 1: What's a scale sheet? 2: Are you allowed to talk about any of the characters on said sheet or is it something forbidden according to contracts?
Anyways I did not think she would be but I was thinking maybe there was a chance said Windblade turns into a jet and Megatron's new jet mode was not on set due to being a "alien" jet also most of Starscream's flying scenes were just cgi and not actually filmed from what I heard.
Posted by Deadput on April 3rd, 2017 @ 11:23pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:Deadput wrote:Speaking of her do any of you think she might have a role in this film?
No I don't. She wasn't listed on any of the character sheets of the hundreds of characters shown in those scale sheets at the Last Knight set in Detroit last summer.
A few questions. 1: What's a scale sheet? 2: Are you allowed to talk about any of the characters on said sheet or is it something forbidden according to contracts?
Anyways I did not think she would be but I was thinking maybe there was a chance said Windblade turns into a jet and Megatron's new jet mode was not on set due to being a "alien" jet also most of Starscream's flying scenes were just cgi and not actually filmed from what I heard.
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871574)
Posted by Kurona on April 3rd, 2017 @ 11:33pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on April 3rd, 2017 @ 11:33pm CDT
It is rather surprising that Hasbro wouldn't order the movies to have their new put-them-in-everything-ever-thanks character, but then it seems like the movies make so much on their own they get much more of a say in what they can do and who they have.
Of all the media to have creative freedom...
Of all the media to have creative freedom...
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871580)
Posted by Arsnof on April 4th, 2017 @ 12:01am CDT
WHAT IN CAR NATION?
Posted by Arsnof on April 4th, 2017 @ 12:01am CDT
ToaLeePrime wrote:
WHAT IN CAR NATION?
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871581)
Posted by Sabrblade on April 4th, 2017 @ 12:07am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on April 4th, 2017 @ 12:07am CDT
I don't see any flowers.Arsnof wrote:ToaLeePrime wrote:
WHAT IN CAR NATION?
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871583)
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on April 4th, 2017 @ 12:33am CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on April 4th, 2017 @ 12:33am CDT
I dunno. This face looks a bit too cutesy weird for me. And I'm a big fan of most of the movie faces and love their uniqueness and complexity (I hate the face styles in Animated cos they're just awful and RID2015 cos they creep me out more with their eyes). I wanna see him in action though.
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871585)
Posted by ToaLeePrime on April 4th, 2017 @ 1:05am CDT
What in Transformation!?
Posted by ToaLeePrime on April 4th, 2017 @ 1:05am CDT
Arsnof wrote:ToaLeePrime wrote:
WHAT IN CAR NATION?
What in Transformation!?
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871586)
Posted by Seibertron on April 4th, 2017 @ 1:05am CDT
This is a G1 scale sheet that shows all of the characters in scale with each other. Paramount had these all around the art room we saw back in August, but with Movie characters instead of G1 characters (obviously). The characters weren't just from Last Knight, it seemed all Transformers from all of the movies were including among various different sheets around all of the walls in the art room. My memories are a little foggy from last August, but I seem to recall Devastator alongside other larger characters like Jet Prime, etc. Most were characters we had seen but some seemed to be characters that were well known from special features or whatever.
Surprisingly, Paramount didn't have me sign a non-disclosure in August 2016 or March 2017 so I think I'm able to talk about whatever you guys want to ask me about. Ask away and I'll tell you if I know something or if I can't talk about it.
Posted by Seibertron on April 4th, 2017 @ 1:05am CDT
Deadput wrote:Seibertron wrote:Deadput wrote:Speaking of her do any of you think she might have a role in this film?
No I don't. She wasn't listed on any of the character sheets of the hundreds of characters shown in those scale sheets at the Last Knight set in Detroit last summer.
A few questions. 1: What's a scale sheet? 2: Are you allowed to talk about any of the characters on said sheet or is it something forbidden according to contracts?
Anyways I did not think she would be but I was thinking maybe there was a chance said Windblade turns into a jet and Megatron's new jet mode was not on set due to being a "alien" jet also most of Starscream's flying scenes were just cgi and not actually filmed from what I heard.
This is a G1 scale sheet that shows all of the characters in scale with each other. Paramount had these all around the art room we saw back in August, but with Movie characters instead of G1 characters (obviously). The characters weren't just from Last Knight, it seemed all Transformers from all of the movies were including among various different sheets around all of the walls in the art room. My memories are a little foggy from last August, but I seem to recall Devastator alongside other larger characters like Jet Prime, etc. Most were characters we had seen but some seemed to be characters that were well known from special features or whatever.
Surprisingly, Paramount didn't have me sign a non-disclosure in August 2016 or March 2017 so I think I'm able to talk about whatever you guys want to ask me about. Ask away and I'll tell you if I know something or if I can't talk about it.
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871606)
Posted by breacher on April 4th, 2017 @ 6:18am CDT
THAT MEME IS DEAD. BURY IT.
(it was never that funny to begin with. Especially when you just slap "nation" onto the ends of words that don't end with "tion".)
So in other words, KNOW YOUR MEME EXPIRATION DATE.
Posted by breacher on April 4th, 2017 @ 6:18am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I don't see any flowers.Arsnof wrote:ToaLeePrime wrote:
WHAT IN CAR NATION?
THAT MEME IS DEAD. BURY IT.
(it was never that funny to begin with. Especially when you just slap "nation" onto the ends of words that don't end with "tion".)
So in other words, KNOW YOUR MEME EXPIRATION DATE.
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871622)
Posted by dragons on April 4th, 2017 @ 8:17am CDT
Giant ALIEN robots born made on another planet that humans had no part in didn't strike any ideas besides alien nation name one alien that looks human humans head human ears human mouth and eyes aliens not man made shockwave , soundwave, scorponock laserbeak, ravage, whirl, tarn, fans want aliens looking like humans watch alien nation fans want giant alien robots from another planet had no human contact until crashed on earth watch transformers only thing changes on robots is outer shell what they change in to not there body does your face change when you have different color shirt on today same with transformers outer body to blend in robot mode stay true who they are as aliens from another planet with non human contact until earth alien movies species alien inside outer shell of human to blend in, predator, alien movie LIFE, mac and me, alf nit one those aliens stay and look human.
Transformers may as well be crated on earth if fans want them to have human faces and not created in space by aliens quntesons not human looking
Posted by dragons on April 4th, 2017 @ 8:17am CDT
Deadput wrote:Seibertron wrote:
All of the movie faces are a disaster in my opinion. I gave up after the first movie. Optimus with the face shield used to look somewhat OK, but whatever they did to it for this movie made it a mess too. I don't understand why their faces have to be so overly complicated and weird looking. I'm assuming that they must look too cartoonish the more humanoid they look, but there's got to be a compromise somewhere.
Even from a design perspective, it seems like making Hot Rod's "face" silver or some other contrasting color to make it stand out against the color of his head would help make it pop some more to help give visual cues what we're looking at. We shouldn't be having to figure out that he has a humanoid face because someone did some highly zoomed in crop of an image of his head.
Well what's done is done the best we can hope for in the future are more faces like Crosshairs, Drift and Hound that are easy to make out but are distinct to thier character.
At least for the Autobots their faces are a bit creative and distinct from each other compared to G1 where you needed a different helmet, visor or different mouthplate shape to make them distinct because all the "liquid metal" human faces were 100 identical.
There really is no win win for any of us since for the franchise as a whole faces are either going to be to generic or too complicated.
Giant ALIEN robots born made on another planet that humans had no part in didn't strike any ideas besides alien nation name one alien that looks human humans head human ears human mouth and eyes aliens not man made shockwave , soundwave, scorponock laserbeak, ravage, whirl, tarn, fans want aliens looking like humans watch alien nation fans want giant alien robots from another planet had no human contact until crashed on earth watch transformers only thing changes on robots is outer shell what they change in to not there body does your face change when you have different color shirt on today same with transformers outer body to blend in robot mode stay true who they are as aliens from another planet with non human contact until earth alien movies species alien inside outer shell of human to blend in, predator, alien movie LIFE, mac and me, alf nit one those aliens stay and look human.
Transformers may as well be crated on earth if fans want them to have human faces and not created in space by aliens quntesons not human looking
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871624)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 4th, 2017 @ 8:57am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 4th, 2017 @ 8:57am CDT
On this glorious Tuesday morning (or afternoon, or night, or even very early Wednesday morning, depending where you are) we bring to you a reminder that tonight will be the Imax Fan Event, where fans of the Live-Action Transformers Movies will get to experience a half an hour long reel of movie moments and behind-the-scenes footage! This experience will contain the material seen during the Super Fan Event that Seibertron was involved with, and even includes about 5 more additional minutes of footage. You can find your tickets for this limited Imax theaters event Here, and you can get up to 2 free tickets for the event. The event is scheduled to occur at 7pm tonight, April 4th.
The British Board of Film Classification has also rated the trailer and provided us with information regarding the preview, such as the running time of just under 30 minutes. We will include the technical details below.
And if you want some spoilerish reminders of what will occur tonight, minus the several new minutes of footage, you can check out Seibertron's own coverage and thoughts right over here!
The British Board of Film Classification has also rated the trailer and provided us with information regarding the preview, such as the running time of just under 30 minutes. We will include the technical details below.
And if you want some spoilerish reminders of what will occur tonight, minus the several new minutes of footage, you can check out Seibertron's own coverage and thoughts right over here!
-Type Of Media: FilmTrailer
-Approved Running Time: 29m 24s
-Director: Michael Bay
-Cut: This work was passed uncut.
-Title: TRANSFORMERS – THE LAST KNIGHT
-Title Information: IMAX Fan Footage
-Year: 2017
-Distributor(s): Paramount Pictures UK
-Classified date(s): 03/04/2017
-Main language: English
-Submitted run time: 29m 24s
-Approved footage: 2646+0
-BBFC reference: FTxxx346896
-Registration number: CFJ41853
-Remarks: IMAX Fan Footage
-Note to parents: This version of the film is displayed in the 3D or IMAX format and some younger children may find this a more intense experience
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871628)
Posted by karyuudo on April 4th, 2017 @ 9:51am CDT
Posted by karyuudo on April 4th, 2017 @ 9:51am CDT
I'll be there tonight 
Should be a fun event.
Should be a fun event.
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871634)
Posted by Deadput on April 4th, 2017 @ 10:06am CDT
Ahhhhh So you did mean a scale chart ok I thought you were talking about something else like... building scales or something.
Anyways tried to ask you some questions last knight but it seems my phone did not post them... I might as well get them out of the way right now.
1: Was Cogman's Aston Martin body shown at all or was he in bhis small Headmaster robot form the whole time?
2: Are the other Dinobots besides Grimlock and Slug in the footage you were shown and were they ever in thier robot forms at all?
3: Did any of the Transformers talk with actual voice work and if so which ones?
4: Did Canopy actually die, live or is it unclear in what you guys saw?
5: WHO IS THE RED MCLAREN IS IT OUR BEAUTIFUL BOY DINO RETURNING?! I'm just sort of kidding/sarcastic about this one I don't think anyone knows besides the movie staff and some others right now.
But if you might know this is the guy I'm talking about he was seen with Bee, Hot Rod and Cogman in Landon where I think one of if not the final battle takes place at least with Earth Locations.
Posted by Deadput on April 4th, 2017 @ 10:06am CDT
Seibertron wrote:
This is a G1 scale sheet that shows all of the characters in scale with each other. Paramount had these all around the art room we saw back in August, but with Movie characters instead of G1 characters (obviously). The characters weren't just from Last Knight, it seemed all Transformers from all of the movies were including among various different sheets around all of the walls in the art room. My memories are a little foggy from last August, but I seem to recall Devastator alongside other larger characters like Jet Prime, etc. Most were characters we had seen but some seemed to be characters that were well known from special features or whatever.
Surprisingly, Paramount didn't have me sign a non-disclosure in August 2016 or March 2017 so I think I'm able to talk about whatever you guys want to ask me about. Ask away and I'll tell you if I know something or if I can't talk about it.
Ahhhhh So you did mean a scale chart ok I thought you were talking about something else like... building scales or something.
Anyways tried to ask you some questions last knight but it seems my phone did not post them... I might as well get them out of the way right now.
1: Was Cogman's Aston Martin body shown at all or was he in bhis small Headmaster robot form the whole time?
2: Are the other Dinobots besides Grimlock and Slug in the footage you were shown and were they ever in thier robot forms at all?
3: Did any of the Transformers talk with actual voice work and if so which ones?
4: Did Canopy actually die, live or is it unclear in what you guys saw?
5: WHO IS THE RED MCLAREN IS IT OUR BEAUTIFUL BOY DINO RETURNING?! I'm just sort of kidding/sarcastic about this one I don't think anyone knows besides the movie staff and some others right now.
But if you might know this is the guy I'm talking about he was seen with Bee, Hot Rod and Cogman in Landon where I think one of if not the final battle takes place at least with Earth Locations.
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871635)
Posted by Arsnof on April 4th, 2017 @ 10:06am CDT
They already turn from nice, useful vehicle modes into bodies that look entirely anthropoid. Two legs with knees in about the right place, torsos, arms with elbows, hands with fingers, heads on top of necks. Even with suspension of disbelief, from the evidence already presented in-universe, it's not too much to ask that they also have somewhat human faces.
Also, the 'Creators' visited Earth in the past (AoE) and Transformers have visted many, many times (Last Knight), plus what we have seen of the "Creators" (in concept art of an arm and a tiny, grainy picture of a toy), they also seem vaguely humanoid.
Even if you go by the comics where Empurata is a thing, Whirl still manages to clearly emote with his one eye. So "they're aliens" is no excuse for "their faces look like a Mountain Dew can went through a blender".
Posted by Arsnof on April 4th, 2017 @ 10:06am CDT
dragons wrote:Deadput wrote:Seibertron wrote:
All of the movie faces are a disaster in my opinion. I gave up after the first movie. Optimus with the face shield used to look somewhat OK, but whatever they did to it for this movie made it a mess too. I don't understand why their faces have to be so overly complicated and weird looking. I'm assuming that they must look too cartoonish the more humanoid they look, but there's got to be a compromise somewhere.
Even from a design perspective, it seems like making Hot Rod's "face" silver or some other contrasting color to make it stand out against the color of his head would help make it pop some more to help give visual cues what we're looking at. We shouldn't be having to figure out that he has a humanoid face because someone did some highly zoomed in crop of an image of his head.
Well what's done is done the best we can hope for in the future are more faces like Crosshairs, Drift and Hound that are easy to make out but are distinct to thier character.
At least for the Autobots their faces are a bit creative and distinct from each other compared to G1 where you needed a different helmet, visor or different mouthplate shape to make them distinct because all the "liquid metal" human faces were 100 identical.
There really is no win win for any of us since for the franchise as a whole faces are either going to be to generic or too complicated.
Giant ALIEN robots born made on another planet that humans had no part in didn't strike any ideas besides alien nation name one alien that looks human humans head human ears human mouth and eyes aliens not man made shockwave , soundwave, scorponock laserbeak, ravage, whirl, tarn, fans want aliens looking like humans watch alien nation fans want giant alien robots from another planet had no human contact until crashed on earth watch transformers only thing changes on robots is outer shell what they change in to not there body does your face change when you have different color shirt on today same with transformers outer body to blend in robot mode stay true who they are as aliens from another planet with non human contact until earth alien movies species alien inside outer shell of human to blend in, predator, alien movie LIFE, mac and me, alf nit one those aliens stay and look human.
Transformers may as well be crated on earth if fans want them to have human faces and not created in space by aliens quntesons not human looking
They already turn from nice, useful vehicle modes into bodies that look entirely anthropoid. Two legs with knees in about the right place, torsos, arms with elbows, hands with fingers, heads on top of necks. Even with suspension of disbelief, from the evidence already presented in-universe, it's not too much to ask that they also have somewhat human faces.
Also, the 'Creators' visited Earth in the past (AoE) and Transformers have visted many, many times (Last Knight), plus what we have seen of the "Creators" (in concept art of an arm and a tiny, grainy picture of a toy), they also seem vaguely humanoid.
Even if you go by the comics where Empurata is a thing, Whirl still manages to clearly emote with his one eye. So "they're aliens" is no excuse for "their faces look like a Mountain Dew can went through a blender".
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871658)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on April 4th, 2017 @ 12:34pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Knight on April 4th, 2017 @ 12:34pm CDT
I am still very saddened by Hot Rod here. would have been nice if they at least tried one to more closely match the source material. Well maybe once more, they did a bit last movie with Optimus Prime.
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871664)
Posted by karyuudo on April 4th, 2017 @ 1:10pm CDT
5 movies later and you're expecting that?
Posted by karyuudo on April 4th, 2017 @ 1:10pm CDT
Rodimus Knight wrote:I am still very saddened by Hot Rod here. would have been nice if they at least tried one to more closely match the source material. Well maybe once more, they did a bit last movie with Optimus Prime.
5 movies later and you're expecting that?
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871677)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 4th, 2017 @ 2:11pm CDT
let us know your thoughts on it!
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 4th, 2017 @ 2:11pm CDT
karyuudo wrote:I'll be there tonight
let us know your thoughts on it!
Re: Images and Clips from Transformers: The Last Knight CinemaCon Attendance (1871680)
Posted by karyuudo on April 4th, 2017 @ 2:29pm CDT
Definitely! I'll try and write something up when I get out of the event.
Posted by karyuudo on April 4th, 2017 @ 2:29pm CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:karyuudo wrote:I'll be there tonight
let us know your thoughts on it!
Definitely! I'll try and write something up when I get out of the event.
