Possible First Look at Earthrise Ironhide, Prowl, Ramjet and Dirge 2-Packs
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We're hours away from Hasbro's latest Fan First Friday featuring Transformers. Thanks to our own Seibertronians Sentinel_Primal and King Kuuga for bringing our attention to the image that appears to have originated on Planet Iacon on Facebook. We're being treated to our first (and relatively small) look at Earthrise exclusive 2-packs featuring Autobots Prowl and Ironhide and Decepticons Ramjet and Dirge. Ironhide appears to be an extensive retool of the the Siege figure worked into a new Earth mode van while Prowl is a slight retool of Smokescreen. Ramjet and Dirge are retools of Starscream with reworked wings and heads. Unfortunately Ramjet doesn't come with his classic missiles, but the arm guns are cartoon accurate for bot mode. Both sets are expected to be Amazon exclusives similar to the sets from last year for Siege.

I know I'm convinced by Ironhide's retooling but what do you think of him and the other three figures found in theses sets? Let us know in the Energon Pub forums!
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Posted by Munkky on July 17th, 2020 @ 4:37am CDT
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on July 17th, 2020 @ 6:08am CDT

The Coneheads look really nice and I'll definitely get them to go with the Rainmakers and Earthrise Starscream and Thundercracker (my friend and I are splitting the TC and Skywarp set because he only wants Skywarp, and I only want TC)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 17th, 2020 @ 6:18am CDT

Posted by Toizarus on July 17th, 2020 @ 6:31am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I'm left wondering how many reveals are left for the event to reveal
If that saves us all from having to sit through 15 minutes of forced corporate enthusiasm and tepid "jokes" then perhaps it's for the best!

Great to see the Coneheads at long last but once again time to feel bad for the people who bought Prowl or Ironhide last year who might not have done so had they know these were coming.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on July 17th, 2020 @ 6:32am CDT
Posted by Randomhero on July 17th, 2020 @ 6:43am CDT
Toizarus wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I'm left wondering how many reveals are left for the event to reveal
If that saves us all from having to sit through 15 minutes of forced corporate enthusiasm and tepid "jokes" then perhaps it's for the best!
Great to see the Coneheads at long last but once again time to feel bad for the people who bought Prowl or Ironhide last year who might not have done so had they know these were coming.
Oh god yes let’s feel bad for grown adults who bought and play with toys. The same characters released as a new toy a year later. Some of you people wouldn’t have survived beast wars and unicron trilogy
Posted by blackeyedprime on July 17th, 2020 @ 6:46am CDT

Posted by Tigerhawk7109 on July 17th, 2020 @ 6:51am CDT


Posted by Immortal Starscream on July 17th, 2020 @ 7:51am CDT
Munkky wrote:The size of Ironhide's chest window makes his head look tiny in proportion to the rest of his body, the Seige version has a better looking robot mode, but the Earth vehicle mode looks nice.
I agree, and this is actually my problem with the earthrise seekers too. I grabbed starscream, because of course I would. but despite being an update to an already pretty good mold, and an excellent jet mode, his chest looks too big for his body, and his head way too small. its nowhere near PoTP screamer bad, but it is a big detraction for me, placing the siege seekers as the better ones imho. This is why I am not getting the Target 2 pack. I will get the coneheads of course to have all the seekers in scale.of course though, im also an oddball trying to complete the map, so not getting the Target seeker 2 pack kinda kills that. anyone not want their map piece and willing to share? lol
that prowl though... see I loved the earthrise "datsuns" but theres no denying their proportions are a little off too, with 'dem skinny thighs. So I may have to get that set and say goodbye to my siege prowl.
Posted by sol magnus on July 17th, 2020 @ 7:54am CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I'm praying that the Prowl-Ironhide stuff is digibashes. Especially Ironhide. "SIEGE retool with the Earth mode roof as a shield" is highly disappointing if true.![]()
Well, that's an opinion...
I for one think these are legit and fantastic!
Posted by Immortal Starscream on July 17th, 2020 @ 8:35am CDT
https://www.walmart.com/browse/collector-con-hasbro-presale/0/0/?wmlspartner=FYAGeMjDX6c&_refineresult=true&_be_shelf_id=4629791&search_sort=100&facet=shelf_id:4629791&affs=p&wid=5b6b4213e4b0bcb699adeb9f&u1=&oid=223073.10006940&sourceid=37141976172661509211&affillinktype=3&veh=aff
...and after refreshing a couple of times, most everything has switched to sold out status
59.99 item says in the specifications it't transformers.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Action-Figure/318026541?wmlspartner=FYAGeMjDX6c&=&affs=p&wid=5b6b4213e4b0bcb699adeb9f&u1=&oid=223073.10006940&sourceid=37141976172661509211&affillinktype=3&veh=aff
Posted by Dr. Caelus on July 17th, 2020 @ 8:44am CDT
Immortal Starscream wrote:the walmart hasbro collector con page is live. no pics, or names yet, though item descriptions show transformers and gi-joes.
https://www.walmart.com/browse/collector-con-hasbro-presale/0/0/?wmlspartner=FYAGeMjDX6c&_refineresult=true&_be_shelf_id=4629791&search_sort=100&facet=shelf_id:4629791&affs=p&wid=5b6b4213e4b0bcb699adeb9f&u1=&oid=223073.10006940&sourceid=37141976172661509211&affillinktype=3&veh=aff
...and after refreshing a couple of times, most everything has switched to sold out status
59.99 item says in the specifications it't transformers.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Action-Figure/318026541?wmlspartner=FYAGeMjDX6c&=&affs=p&wid=5b6b4213e4b0bcb699adeb9f&u1=&oid=223073.10006940&sourceid=37141976172661509211&affillinktype=3&veh=aff
Yeah, there's one at $60, two at $40, and five at $20, so it definitely looks like second wave of Netflix exclusives.
Guessing:
$60 - Shockwave with lab stuff.
$40 - Optimus Prime recolor and new character (maybe Deadlock from Springer) plus Battlemasters.
$20 - Elita-1, Armada Wheeljack, Ironhide recolor, ...?
What would be hilarious is if $60 fig was a retool of Astrotrain as Armada Jetfire, but that seems really unlikely.
Posted by blackeyedprime on July 17th, 2020 @ 8:54am CDT
Posted by EvasionModeBumblebee on July 17th, 2020 @ 9:03am CDT
Also, Bumblebee and Soundwave are a part of the netflix line? Why wouldn't they go in ER? Seems kinda weird if they don't have weathering but whatever.
It is cool that Bumblebee is a VW, I was just hoping he didn't partsform like Cliffjumper does. Maybe the updated molding will let him transform without removing it?
Posted by blackeyedprime on July 17th, 2020 @ 9:31am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 17th, 2020 @ 9:39am CDT
How else were they going to recreate the original toy's hoverboard w/ gun turret?ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I'm praying that the Prowl-Ironhide stuff is digibashes. Especially Ironhide. "SIEGE retool with the Earth mode roof as a shield" is highly disappointing if true.![]()
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 17th, 2020 @ 9:54am CDT
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on July 17th, 2020 @ 10:12am CDT
I wish they'd just lead with Netflix. I always found some fault with the main ER Prime and if Netflix is just going to come out with a better one Hasbro is going to lose a lot of my trust.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 17th, 2020 @ 10:13am CDT
blackeyedprime wrote:Hoping the netflix leader box is double dealer with his lil dudes
Honestly, it would be awesome but I don't think it will happen. Battle Masters are cheaper individually than Micromasters. Plus that Select box exist.
In all logic, it may be a special "battle damage" version of Optimus Prime with one or two Battle Masters included.
Posted by shocksound96 on July 17th, 2020 @ 10:22am CDT
Posted by blackeyedprime on July 17th, 2020 @ 10:22am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:blackeyedprime wrote:Hoping the netflix leader box is double dealer with his lil dudes
Honestly, it would be awesome but I don't think it will happen. Battle Masters are cheaper individually than Micromasters. Plus that Select box exist.
In all logic, it may be a special "battle damage" version of Optimus Prime with one or two Battle Masters included.
yeagh thats true, maybe a nemesis galaxy optimus prime as it feels like it is the one figure that doesnt have an exclusive or repaint yet.
Posted by DMSL on July 17th, 2020 @ 10:23am CDT
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 17th, 2020 @ 10:23am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 17th, 2020 @ 10:24am CDT
How else were they going to recreate the original toy's hoverboard w/ gun turret?DMSL wrote:Lazy Ironhide transformation the roof becomes a shield, hope it is not like Cliffjumper.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 17th, 2020 @ 10:26am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 17th, 2020 @ 10:29am CDT
And by the way, this is now getting super confusing since it seems the Walmart exclusive Netflix stuff might not just be redecos anymore but actual remolds and even new alt modes, like the volkswagon beetle and a tape deck for soundwave. Don't know if these are earthrise toys we have yet to see or not.
Also, I hate that I have to rebuy so many figures I already have. Soundwave, Ironhide, prowl AAARGHHH
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 17th, 2020 @ 10:29am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:RIP Thrust...
He's getting a solo release at retail, already seen a price tag for him
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on July 17th, 2020 @ 10:39am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:RIP Thrust...
He's getting a solo release at retail, already seen a price tag for him
Oh I see. I thought for a minute he might get his own two-pack release with Windblade.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 17th, 2020 @ 10:42am CDT
It's because he's a re-shell of SIEGE Ironhide. Given that mold's core transformation scheme, a roof shield was the easiest way to give it a Onebox roof.DMSL wrote:Lazy Ironhide transformation the roof becomes a shield, hope it is not like Cliffjumper.
But I wish they'd given us an Ironhide with the proper battle platform..



Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 17th, 2020 @ 10:46am CDT
Why? I always hated that about the G1 toy. It was useless.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:It's because he's a re-shell of SIEGE Ironhide. Given that mold's core transformation scheme, a roof shield was the easiest way to give it a Onebox roof.DMSL wrote:Lazy Ironhide transformation the roof becomes a shield, hope it is not like Cliffjumper.
But I wish they'd given us an Ironhide with the proper battle platform..![]()
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Posted by Cobotron on July 17th, 2020 @ 10:47am CDT
I agree this would have been great! Maybe there are some 5mm ports on the underside so we can fan-jam some kind of approximation of one. Maybe use Siege Ratchet's accessories?ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:But I wish they'd given us an Ironhide with the proper battle platform..![]()
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Well for me, I like anything that harkens back to Diaclone.Rodimus Prime wrote:Why? I always hated that about the G1 toy. It was useless.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 17th, 2020 @ 10:49am CDT
Yeah, that irks me as well. I wish they would have given their slots to figures who haven't seen a proper release in a while, if ever. Like some Firecons and Sparkabots. But they probably wouldn't have sold as well.william-james88 wrote:Also, I hate that I have to rebuy so many figures I already have. Soundwave, Ironhide, prowl AAARGHHH
Posted by Evil Eye on July 17th, 2020 @ 10:58am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah, that irks me as well. I wish they would have given their slots to figures who haven't seen a proper release in a while, if ever. Like some Firecons and Sparkabots. But they probably wouldn't have sold as well.william-james88 wrote:Also, I hate that I have to rebuy so many figures I already have. Soundwave, Ironhide, prowl AAARGHHH
New Firecons would be excellent, especially as they could all use the same base mold with different alt mode parts. Alas, it seems we'll be stuck with Cindersaur from Slash for now. A shame- I like Slash but Cindersaur is supposed to be a lumpy lizard thing! Slash's athletic, predatory form is FAR too dignified for a 'bot whose brain module long since melted to slag and poured out his ear!
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 17th, 2020 @ 11:01am CDT
Well, I personally find it a very fun feature. Both as a battle sled and as a medical slab/workstation for Ratchet. In modern toy context, it would go great with Titan Masters and Prime Masters.Rodimus Prime wrote:Why? I always hated that about the G1 toy. It was useless.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:It's because he's a re-shell of SIEGE Ironhide. Given that mold's core transformation scheme, a roof shield was the easiest way to give it a Onebox roof.DMSL wrote:Lazy Ironhide transformation the roof becomes a shield, hope it is not like Cliffjumper.
But I wish they'd given us an Ironhide with the proper battle platform..![]()
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And Ratchet and Ironhide are inaccurate without it. Their robot mode character models are based directly on the robot separated from the platform that forms most of the van volume.
In Ironhide's case, an Earth mode by itself is not enough to get me to bite. I needed that extra play value and bit of design accuracy... Combine that with Prowl not having a different chest from Smokescreen (as far as I could tell) and that pack is a hard pass.
In fairness, Prowl and Whyronhide are an exclusive two-pack, so they're not stealing main slots.Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah, that irks me as well. I wish they would have given their slots to figures who haven't seen a proper release in a while, if ever. Like some Firecons and Sparkabots. But they probably wouldn't have sold as well.william-james88 wrote:Also, I hate that I have to rebuy so many figures I already have. Soundwave, Ironhide, prowl AAARGHHH
Maybe.. But it would be a half-hearted approximation.Cobotron wrote:I agree this would have been great! Maybe there are some 5mm ports on the underside so we can fan-jam some kind of approximation of one. Maybe use Siege Ratchet's accessoriesZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:But I wish they'd given us an Ironhide with the proper battle platform..![]()
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Posted by Sabrblade on July 17th, 2020 @ 11:03am CDT
Sounds like you didn't pay attention to this morning's livestream.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, I personally find it a very fun feature. Both as a battle sled and as a medical slab/workstation for Ratchet. In modern toy context, it would go great with Titan Masters and Prime Masters.Rodimus Prime wrote:Why? I always hated that about the G1 toy. It was useless.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:It's because he's a re-shell of SIEGE Ironhide. Given that mold's core transformation scheme, a roof shield was the easiest way to give it a Onebox roof.DMSL wrote:Lazy Ironhide transformation the roof becomes a shield, hope it is not like Cliffjumper.
But I wish they'd given us an Ironhide with the proper battle platform..![]()
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And Ratchet and Ironhide are inaccurate without it. Their robot mode character models are based directly on the robot separated from the platform that forms most of the van volume.
In Ironhide's case, an Earth mode by itself is not enough to get me to bite. I needed that extra play value and bit of design accuracy... Combine that with Prowl not having a different chest from Smokescreen (as far as I could tell) and that pack is a hard pass.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 17th, 2020 @ 11:13am CDT
No, I did not watch the recording of the stream, because I find stuff like that a slog to sit through. So I was relying on the news article.Sabrblade wrote:Sounds like you didn't pay attention to this morning's livestream.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Well, I personally find it a very fun feature. Both as a battle sled and as a medical slab/workstation for Ratchet. In modern toy context, it would go great with Titan Masters and Prime Masters.Rodimus Prime wrote:Why? I always hated that about the G1 toy. It was useless.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:It's because he's a re-shell of SIEGE Ironhide. Given that mold's core transformation scheme, a roof shield was the easiest way to give it a Onebox roof.DMSL wrote:Lazy Ironhide transformation the roof becomes a shield, hope it is not like Cliffjumper.
But I wish they'd given us an Ironhide with the proper battle platform..![]()
![]()
And Ratchet and Ironhide are inaccurate without it. Their robot mode character models are based directly on the robot separated from the platform that forms most of the van volume.
In Ironhide's case, an Earth mode by itself is not enough to get me to bite. I needed that extra play value and bit of design accuracy... Combine that with Prowl not having a different chest from Smokescreen (as far as I could tell) and that pack is a hard pass.
*Checks the new news article with (out-of-order) official images*
Okay, so Prowl does have different chest (but it still has "modern car" lights, bleh. Wonder if those can be popped out to convert things...). That was hard to tell from the low-res leak photo, and the original news article for the reveals just linked to the leak about the two-packs instead of bothering to have screencaps of Ramjet, Dirge, Prowl, and Ironhide.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 17th, 2020 @ 11:13am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:RIP Thrust...
He's getting a solo release at retail, already seen a price tag for him
Oh I see. I thought for a minute he might get his own two-pack release with Windblade.
Wait. What?
Earthrise Windblade is a thing?
If yes, I wonder how she will look like?
Posted by Sabrblade on July 17th, 2020 @ 11:22am CDT
No it's not. He was being pessimistic.-Kanrabat- wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:RIP Thrust...
He's getting a solo release at retail, already seen a price tag for him
Oh I see. I thought for a minute he might get his own two-pack release with Windblade.
Wait. What?
Earthrise Windblade is a thing?
If yes, I wonder how she will look like?
Posted by Sabrblade on July 17th, 2020 @ 11:25am CDT
Then you missed out on them declaring Ironhide's shield to be a hoverboard/gun turret triple changer.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:No, I did not watch the recording of the stream, because I find stuff like that a slog to sit through.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 17th, 2020 @ 11:29am CDT
william-james88 wrote:And by the way, this is now getting super confusing since it seems the Walmart exclusive Netflix stuff might not just be redecos anymore but actual remolds and even new alt modes, like the volkswagon beetle and a tape deck for soundwave. Don't know if these are earthrise toys we have yet to see or not.
It really feels like Bee, Elita-1, and Soundwave were developed for Earthrise but made available as Wal-Mart exclusives, and shoehorned into their existing exclusive branding. OTOH, Bee and Elita are apparently major characters in the cartoon.
At any rate, I can't imagine we're going to see standard Earthrise releases since these don't have grimy decoes. How would a mainline release differ?
Posted by william-james88 on July 17th, 2020 @ 11:35am CDT
Click here for:
Dirge and Ramjet 2 pack in US: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083VMBWCK/?tag=seibertron07-20&c ... _lig_dp_it
Dirge and Ramjet 2 pack in Canada: https://www.amazon.ca/Transformers-Toys?tag=seibertron0b-20& ... l_huc_item
Earth mode Ironhide and Prowl 2 pack in US: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZPL7DXZ/?tag=seibertron07-20&c ... _lig_dp_it
Earth mode Ironhide and Prowl 2 pack in Canada: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07ZPL7DXZ/?tag=seibertron0b-20&co ... _lig_dp_it
The two voyagers are 59.99 while the two deluxes are 39.99, so it's the same as retail prices for these exclusives. Also, it is important to point out that these can sell out at any moment, as it happened with the Skywarp pack last year which can now only be found for double what it originally cost.

Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on July 17th, 2020 @ 11:36am CDT
Okay, so your point is...? A gun turret made from the roof of the van is not the same thing as the proper battle sled and you know it.Sabrblade wrote:Then you missed out on them declaring Ironhide's shield to be a hoverboard/gun turret triple changer.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:No, I did not watch the recording of the stream, because I find stuff like that a slog to sit through.

THIS is what I wanted. And there is no way in hell that that roof shield turns into anything close to that, there just plain isn't enough mass there (And, you know, it's made from just the roof and windows). At best it will be something slightly less half-hearted than the MP's attempt.
EDIT: Can we try demanding of Hasbro that the Coneheads get a real release? "Amazon Exclusive" does not count as a real release anymore IMO.
....I maybe really pissed at Amazon right now after a bad experience with their worthless piece of shit search engine
Posted by Slashercon on July 17th, 2020 @ 11:40am CDT
Posted by AcademyofDrX on July 17th, 2020 @ 11:50am CDT
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:THIS is what I wanted. And there is no way in hell that that roof shield turns into anything close to that, there just plain isn't enough mass there (And, you know, it's made from just the roof and windows). At best it will be something slightly less half-hearted than the MP's attempt.
EDIT: Can we try demanding of Hasbro that the Coneheads get a real release? "Amazon Exclusive" does not count as a real release anymore IMO.
You can demand all you want, you're not getting these things
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on July 17th, 2020 @ 12:16pm CDT
Ironhide's roof being a separate part is unfortunate, as are the visible shoulders. But it's an Earth mode voyager Ironhide. Just gotta get used to it because I think it's the best I'm likely to get. It's definitely better than Henkei Ironhide, who's my current one, even if it leaves something to be desired.
Posted by Rodimus Knight on July 17th, 2020 @ 12:37pm CDT
The last set of Walmart Exclusives came out in store before we got them, I wonder if that will happen this time.
Posted by Mindmaster on July 17th, 2020 @ 12:41pm CDT
Speaking of, my BBTS preorder for Scorponok and Sky Lynx got fulfilled today, so I’m hoping to get them before I go out next week for a month long field op.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 17th, 2020 @ 1:02pm CDT
Posted by aronjlove on July 17th, 2020 @ 1:14pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Not interested in the deluxe pack, but I made sure to preorder the Coneheads.
Same here. No desire for another Prowl or Ironhide but the Coneheads are something new.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 17th, 2020 @ 1:22pm CDT
aronjlove wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Not interested in the deluxe pack, but I made sure to preorder the Coneheads.
Same here. No desire for another Prowl or Ironhide but the Coneheads are something new.
Then, to find the last member in store. I'm not worrying about it though.