Leaked Designs for Transformers: The Last Knight Turbo Change Hound and Barricade
Thursday, January 26th, 2017 12:25PM CST
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Posted by Microraptor on January 26th, 2017 @ 12:37pm CST
thedistinctroom wrote:Oh wow! Bumblebee has so many paint apps. I'm spellbound. In 5 years time from now, I'll bet that there will be absolutely no paint apps at all! Yay! Way to go,.
The problem is that Bee has many parts made of translucent plastic, on several parts of his body. Note how Berserker, who doesn't have translucent plastic, and Barricade, who has it all on a couple of pieces, have substantially more paint apps and color variance. Not to mention the detail-swallowing nature of that yellow plastic.
Posted by william-james88 on January 26th, 2017 @ 12:45pm CST
Microraptor wrote:thedistinctroom wrote:Oh wow! Bumblebee has so many paint apps. I'm spellbound. In 5 years time from now, I'll bet that there will be absolutely no paint apps at all! Yay! Way to go,.
The problem is that Bee has many parts made of translucent plastic, on several parts of his body. Note how Berserker, who doesn't have translucent plastic, and Barricade, who has it all on a couple of pieces, have substantially more paint apps and color variance. Not to mention the detail-swallowing nature of that yellow plastic.
Speaking of which, I have no problem with the paint apps found on Beserker.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 26th, 2017 @ 1:26pm CST
Hound looks eeeeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Beserker looks much better to me now actually and I really like him. Him and Barricade will be my 2 pickups for this way.
I have a Slash so this one means nothing.
that Bee is bad. His AoE version of that mold just devours it.
No MP Barricade? Maybe MP Drift?
Posted by william-james88 on January 26th, 2017 @ 1:29pm CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:No MP Barricade? Maybe MP Drift?

Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 26th, 2017 @ 1:31pm CST
william-james88 wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:No MP Barricade? Maybe MP Drift?
Actually, considering Bee is based on his Movie 1 design, maybe we'll finally get a really good version of the only other movie character that is Bee sized: Jazz. I would love an MP movie Jazz. Drift would be cool too, but Jazz baby
Posted by william-james88 on January 26th, 2017 @ 1:50pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 26th, 2017 @ 1:52pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Could he really be superior to the HA toy? That toy is sublime and to me he is as MP as Jazz can get.
I never saw or got that toy, and I don't like the "human alliance" part of it, so I think they could do it better
Posted by Sabrblade on January 26th, 2017 @ 1:55pm CST
I dunno, man. That toy not only nailed Movie Jazz's CG model look down to a tee, it even worked in a completely non-intrusive full car interior, which is something most of the MPs rarely ever execute well (but which the Alternators pulled off).D-Maximus_Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:Could he really be superior to the HA toy? That toy is sublime and to me he is as MP as Jazz can get.
I never saw or got that toy, and I don't like the "human alliance" part of it, so I think they could do it better
Posted by william-james88 on January 26th, 2017 @ 2:03pm CST
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:Could he really be superior to the HA toy? That toy is sublime and to me he is as MP as Jazz can get.
I never saw or got that toy, and I don't like the "human alliance" part of it, so I think they could do it better
I dont know what you mean by the human alliance part of it. Its just that he has a detailed cockpit that can seat a figure, wouldnt you want that in the MP to have as much realism in car mode as possible.
To be dead honest, that Jazz is one of the figures that could easily be released in the MPM line. The scale is perfect with the MPs too and he has the gimicks you would expect from an MP. Instead of dreaming until the day it is made 9which might be never), you could own him right now

Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 26th, 2017 @ 2:11pm CST
william-james88 wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:Could he really be superior to the HA toy? That toy is sublime and to me he is as MP as Jazz can get.
I never saw or got that toy, and I don't like the "human alliance" part of it, so I think they could do it better
I dont know what you mean by the human alliance part of it. Its just that he has a detailed cockpit that can seat a figure, wouldnt you want that in the MP to have as much realism in car mode as possible.
To be dead honest, that Jazz is one of the figures that could easily be released in the MPM line. The scale is perfect with the MPs too and he has the gimicks you would expect from an MP. Instead of dreaming until the day it is made 9which might be never), you could own him right now
Eeeeeh, I remain unconvinced. still doesn't look right to me, and I'd prefer an MP use that interior space to make robot proportions and aesthetics better. HA Jazz looks fiddly and spindly in the legs/thighs area and his arms seem wonky
Posted by Deadput on January 26th, 2017 @ 3:48pm CST
Never got him in the original line (actually I never bought any AOE Figure due to money)
I just bought The Big Dinobot with the G1 Colors and head set from Ross during Black Friday and my trip into the States and I really wanted to get a Slash and Scorn to go with them.
Now give me Scorn Hasbro I'm not paying aftermarket for that beauty!
Posted by Kurona on January 26th, 2017 @ 4:02pm CST
Posted by Deadput on January 26th, 2017 @ 4:13pm CST
Kurona wrote:Ooh, if they're releasing the Dinobots I'd be interested. They're some of the few on-screen toy designs I really liked...
With Grimlock and some new Mini-Dinobots who are probably the Slashes that were cut from AOE confirmed to be in the movie and leaked listings showing a playset that includes a legends sized Slug I think it's safe to say that the Dinobots are going to be a bigger part of both the movie and the toys this time around.
Hope we get some new deluxe ones too because I love Dinobot Knights because it's actually something new different and interesting in this brand.
Posted by Kurona on January 26th, 2017 @ 4:31pm CST
Deadput wrote:Kurona wrote:Ooh, if they're releasing the Dinobots I'd be interested. They're some of the few on-screen toy designs I really liked...
With Grimlock and some new Mini-Dinobots who are probably the Slashes that were cut from AOE confirmed to be in the movie and leaked listings showing a playset that includes a legends sized Slug I think it's safe to say that the Dinobots are going to be a bigger part of both the movie and the toys this time around.
Hope we get some new deluxe ones too because I love Dinobot Knights because it's actually something new different and interesting in this brand.
Yeah I thought that was a really cool idea too. It's really random and out of nowhere, and I don't know how they got 'knight' from dinosaurs that act like cavemen but... screw it, I don't care. It's awesome.
If we got more Dinobots this time that'd be sick too. BRING ON PADDLES
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 26th, 2017 @ 4:33pm CST

As for the "predator" looking one, it will be a wait-n-see.
Posted by RAR on January 26th, 2017 @ 5:07pm CST
But despite the lack of the slightly different face - I'd still say this Berserker fella is a reasonable stand in for the 3rd Highway battle Dread as well as a minor character in his own right in the new movie.
He's doing double duty for me at least.
I wonder if they kept some of the old NEST vehicles around anywhere as some of them would make nice Decepticon or Autobot alt modes (in this or a future Movie).
They stuck a toe in the water with that in the toylines in the past but considering I'd say it worked pretty well I think it would be worth doing onscreen too.
Imagine a situation where you needed a throw away scene with other Autobots located elsewhere - perhaps they have a base still or some Military somewhere defended them from the assassination attempts (approved or otherwise) then a whole bunch showing up with military modes would make sense - also from the Decepticon Perspective - they like modes that they can use offensively in both forms - so Military vehicles suit their needs.
If you think there is a plan to exterminate you then putting yourself in low-power state and hiding in a military base isn't totally crazy thing to do. especially if the Decepticons maintain a few Pretenders to keep interest away from their bigger comrades.
Alice was pretty scary - but a whole platoon of them would be very nasty indeed. Even more so if they were not a little blonde girl size but some 6.5 foot soldier type.
Best not to over use the concept though as it's not especially Transformery and its a bit generic SCI alien invasion plot.
But if Hasbro/Paramount etc.. ever wanted to make a live action mini-series or something like that in continuity with the Movies - it would be an ideal plot tool.
Posted by Deadput on January 26th, 2017 @ 5:22pm CST
The Us Military doesn't exactly enjoy their vehicles being portrayed as evil and probably the only reason why they got away with it in the first couple films was due to Bay's really good connections with them but I think they wanted less of it as the sequels went on I mean how many new earth military cons were in DOTM and AOE right?
That's the IRL reason to why Starscream got his tattoos in sequel movies so he could keep his F-22 mode and is probably why he will not come back to life anytime soon besides their no reviving characters besides Prime and Megs rule unless the military allows it or he gets a Cybertronian jet mode.
I don't think we will get Military Cons in this movie so far the only military Transformers in the movie are Hound, The old war world Tank and the Submarine Transformer who might be a con or one of those Cybertronian settlers that we learned in some of the early news who I think that unknown yellowed eye bot from the trailer is part of.
Posted by Mr.MicroMaster on January 26th, 2017 @ 6:29pm CST
Posted by Stuartmaximus on January 26th, 2017 @ 7:25pm CST
Deadput wrote:The thing about Military Cons in real life is that the Military has a say just like car companies do (the Dino/Mirage mess that ultimately cut almost all important scenes he was meant to be in and excluded all action scenes due to Ferrari not wanting their car to kill or use guns)
The Us Military doesn't exactly enjoy their vehicles being portrayed as evil and probably the only reason why they got away with it in the first couple films was due to Bay's really good connections with them but I think they wanted less of it as the sequels went on I mean how many new earth military cons were in DOTM and AOE right?
That's the IRL reason to why Starscream got his tattoos in sequel movies so he could keep his F-22 mode and is probably why he will not come back to life anytime soon besides their no reviving characters besides Prime and Megs rule unless the military allows it or he gets a Cybertronian jet mode.
I don't think we will get Military Cons in this movie so far the only military Transformers in the movie are Hound, The old war world Tank and the Submarine Transformer who might be a con or one of those Cybertronian settlers that we learned in some of the early news who I think that unknown yellowed eye bot from the trailer is part of.
FYI the tank & yellow eyed bot is supposed to be Warpath and i believe the sub maybe an Autobot coz Cade + whoever else travels in the sub to the underwater structure shown in the trailer
Posted by RAR on January 26th, 2017 @ 7:39pm CST
Also look at Brawl - he's no normal tank either I was thinking of the various SUV like light military vehicles seen a lot in ROTF but also DOTM You don't need military permission though it would help no doubt. you'd just need a yard that looks suitable.
But there is always that they could use those things and not actually show them Transform - but all that does is throw a problem at Hasbro.
But they don't seem interested in giving any money to anyone for making F-15 toys - so did they do so for an F-22 ?
I think they might have had a license on that so they could use the real logos.
I'd guess they could make toys of the Wreckers with no license where they had no logos on them - they likely put the license on the boxes anyway for Legion Roadbuster and Leadfoot as it was a set fee.
But I agree Ferrari is far to precious for their own good - as they had the chance to have Dino front and centre and raise their global visibility and sell some cars instead he's in the Movie so infrequently as to be easily forgotten completely. - He didn't even have a Stealth Force mode in the Movie as far as I know and anytime he attacked any Decepticon that I actually noticed it was with his blades or blades on chains.
But that whole scene is so over saturated It's hard for me to follow anyway.
I don't know why but for some reason the shoot and set stuff just seemed to glide past me this time I just didn't see it listed around on my usual feeds.
Posted by Rainmaker on January 26th, 2017 @ 8:06pm CST

Posted by Deadput on January 26th, 2017 @ 8:11pm CST
Stuartmaximus wrote:
FYI the tank & yellow eyed bot is supposed to be Warpath and i believe the sub maybe an Autobot coz Cade + whoever else travels in the sub to the underwater structure shown in the trailer
No it is not supposed to be Warpath I know Bay has been using that name on set but the name was a common code name for characters for example two of the Wreckers had Warpath as a working name.
The Yellow bot has Long Haul's body or at least the exact same torso as people have pointed out on other websites so it probably is not a tank.
We don't know who it is yet all we have is guesses but until we find out there is no way to know it's Warpath.
There are two submarines in that shot in the trailer and I doubt that either of them are the Submarine character that was talked about.
Posted by Deadput on January 26th, 2017 @ 8:19pm CST
Maximal Rainmaker wrote:They might as well have made Barricade into a new character, Barricade seems nothing like Barricade.
Besides the head he looks a lot like him but I'm pretty sure that he was rebuilt after being blown up and shot at in DOTM and there are two confirmed plot points known so far that will probably explain why he looks different now.
1: There is a junkyard where dead Transformers are trashed away but some of them are not quite dead this is what I think Barricade comes from.
2: There is also a prison type place where Transformers are imprisoned in and if there is a jail type place in a movie expect a Jailbreak by at least one character because Imprisoning Transformers is never a good idea.
It's not like Barricade really got a lot of development in the two movies he was in heck in DOTM he had voice lines that were meant for Soundwave but recycled for Barricade.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 26th, 2017 @ 10:02pm CST
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 26th, 2017 @ 10:57pm CST

Posted by Sabrblade on January 26th, 2017 @ 11:03pm CST
And the torso, and the arms, and the legs, and pretty much everything other than the look of the altmode kibble. This design basically looks like a whole new guy who just scanned a very similar altmode to Barricade's.Deadput wrote:Besides the head
We know it's still Barricade. We know that there could very well be an in-story explanation for his new look (or not). But the bottom line is that the base design, when viewed independently from the altmode and its kibble in robot mode, looks so radically different enough from Barricade's old look that his new look could easily pass for a completely different character. It looks about as much like Barricade's old look as Sunstreaker and Tigertrack look like each other. Or for another comparison, about as much as any of the Technorganic Maximals in the Beast Machines cartoon looked like any of their Beast Wars cartoon designs.
Posted by Deadput on January 26th, 2017 @ 11:40pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:And the torso, and the arms, and the legs, and pretty much everything other than the look of the altmode kibble. This design basically looks like a whole new guy who just scanned a very similar altmode to Barricade's.Deadput wrote:Besides the head
We know it's still Barricade. We know that there could very well be an in-story explanation for his new look (or not). But the bottom line is that the base design, when viewed independently from the altmode and its kibble in robot mode, looks so radically different enough from Barricade's old look that his new look could easily pass for a completely different character. It looks about as much like Barricade's old look as Sunstreaker and Tigertrack look like each other. Or for another comparison, about as much as any of the Technorganic Maximals in the Beast Machines cartoon looked like any of their Beast Wars cartoon designs.
Never meant that they look exactly alike but the rest of the body has the brutal police look of Barricade the biggest differences are the not claw hands without wheels and his head design although him having 4 eyes helps make it closer too him.
Obviously irl reason for the change is to make him look more like Bee to make him look more obvious as his rival and having a more humanoid body could be easier to market to children then a monstrous looking bot in theory at least that's what I think.
Just like how Clone Troopers armor looks a lot like Stromtrooper armor to market them to kids as good guys while also establishing a connection to their future self's which was later retconed later that the Stromies were mostly not clones anyways probably to make the clones look more like good guys.
Posted by Bronzewolf on January 27th, 2017 @ 3:10am CST
Coming from the Asian hobby store Loopaza, we have a near-complete rundown of the first Last Knight wave we'll be getting, as well as when we'll be getting it. They also reference a "Speed Changer" subline, which is expected to be Takara's version of the "Turbo Change" Hasbro line (Part of which was also leaked recently) Check out their full statement and the image they provided from one of their wholesale contacts.


Posted by PlasmaShot360 on January 27th, 2017 @ 3:47am CST






Posted by PlasmaShot360 on January 27th, 2017 @ 3:50am CST
Bumblebee:NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Barricade:90% chance of me buying him.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 27th, 2017 @ 4:18am CST

It's "DX" for "deluxe", right?
Posted by Deadput on January 27th, 2017 @ 5:09am CST
PlasmaShot360 wrote:I wish I could read Japanese/Chinese.![]()
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I'm pretty sure there are no names on that list because most of the time until official photos are released they don't list character names just product and a number afterwards like #17
Posted by Sabrblade on January 27th, 2017 @ 7:32am CST
Posted by RAR on January 27th, 2017 @ 7:53am CST
But the did call that AOE line "Power Attackers" not 'Power Attack'
Though I also saw them listed online as "Power Battlers" too.
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I wonder if the UV reactant paint will change in sunlight or require you to buy a cheap Chinese Black light to get them to work...
I may go buy one of them anyway.
But shining UV on plastic isn't the greatest of ideas - but my Gi Joe Zartan/Zarana & Zandar seem fine and I had them sitting on window sills to change colour more than once.
I wonder why they don't tend to use Glow in the dark much ?
Posted by william-james88 on January 27th, 2017 @ 8:20am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:I want to kmow why DLK-005DX is priced at 4500Y instead of 2800Y?
It's "DX" for "deluxe", right?
Maybe but not in the sense of Class. Its more like how its used to mean that it gives you the most, like DX kabaya kits or Deluxe Megazords that combine compared to the ones that dont. Like in French, c'est la version de luxe

Its the voyager prime, for sure.
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You will notice that they are all the same characters repeated for each toy, so it just tells you the assortment, not the character.
Also, for the UV reactive paint, the sun has UV light. I think this just means glow in the dark.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 27th, 2017 @ 2:39pm CST
What's also remarkable is that TakaraTomy keeps the US title of the movie.

Also, the DX range is skipping letters, which leads me to believe that the same letters refer to the same characters. G is Optimus Prime, while A, C, E, and F we know are Bumblebee, Beserker, Barricade and an unknown character Dinobot Slash. A, B, C and D, appear in the Turbo/Speed Change line, two of them being Hound and Barricade. Characters A and C appear in both, so Barricade has to be one of those letters.
Posted by The Thuggernaut on January 27th, 2017 @ 6:24pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 27th, 2017 @ 7:49pm CST
Posted by RAR on January 28th, 2017 @ 9:31am CST
[edit] P.s.
O hope the Slash Deluxe they make is coloured to fill in a gap in one of the existing boxed sets he's missing from that would be perfect.
Posted by Stuartmaximus on January 28th, 2017 @ 12:10pm CST
The Thuggernaut wrote:It is definitley more expensive than any other Prime movie helmet that has recently been on the market, but since it's priced just as much as Hasbro's Star Wars Black Series helmets this must be made with collectors in mind.
Speaking of expense & black series....here's an interesting thing
i'm taking it that LK means Last Knight


Posted by william-james88 on January 28th, 2017 @ 12:34pm CST
Posted by RAR on January 28th, 2017 @ 1:20pm CST
Hut yes I agree even with the different material costs involved that Transformers are globally better distributed than Marvel they should be able to keep the cost down.
I tend to feel they'd get away with $20.00 more when they look like they made an effort - so I was fine paying $20.00 for Brainstorm has he had nice tampographs.
If he'd had the same gosh awful stickers Voyager Megatron had then I'd not been very impressed.
I'm already disinclined to pay retail as it is and lowering product quality isn't going to persuade me otherwise.
Also You just know the One-step like toys will end up cheap somewhere pretty quickly so there would be a big discrepancy in cost then for a toy that would only be a wee bit bigger.
Also as much as Hasbro may not want to admit it they are also in competition with KO's now and for $20.00 there is a sea of top quality KO's available instead.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 28th, 2017 @ 3:17pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Marvel and Star Wars are at that price point because they are licensed figures and therefore have an added cost. Hasbro pays no one for the TF license. And Deluxe TFs are already being sold for $20 before the movie ones are coming out so that podcast is just talking because they have nothing else to talk about.
TakaraTomy (and in the case of the movie Paramount as well). TakaraTomy and Hasbro may share the brand, but it's the former who's the de facto owner of the name as crazy as it sounds.
As for the price hikes (Deluxes are still $15 or so where I shop), either Hasbro is trying to streamline things so other lines don't suffer from Transformers' lower prices (why not lower the prices on the other lines?), or Paramount negotiated a bigger cut somehow.
Or it could be because the Premier Edition Deluxes are boxed now instead of carded.
Posted by Va'al on January 28th, 2017 @ 3:48pm CST
Posted by PlasmaShot360 on January 29th, 2017 @ 3:59am CST
Posted by RAR on January 29th, 2017 @ 11:39am CST
Not to mention the average price of AOE deluxe Dinobot on eBay is about $7.00
Posted by william-james88 on January 29th, 2017 @ 12:48pm CST
RAR wrote:Use of licensed car modes increases the costs - but yeah there is a limit to what people will pay for a typical vanilla Deluxe like Slash when they can look up and see a leader that is several times the size and only a bit more than double the price.
Not to mention the average price of AOE deluxe Dinobot on eBay is about $7.00
Even when Scorn is part of that average?
Posted by Va'al on January 29th, 2017 @ 3:55pm CST
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 29th, 2017 @ 4:28pm CST

Posted by dragons on January 29th, 2017 @ 6:08pm CST