TakaraTomy Transformers Legends- LG-21 Hardhead, LG-22 Skull, & LG-23 Galvatron On Display
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Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Legends- LG-21 Hardhead, LG-22 Skull, & LG-23 Galvatron On Display
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With the beast wars guys, its not really about importing, these are convention exclusives. So its the equivalent of someone in japan wanting to buy Botcon/SDCC exclusives. The only way an american will be able to get him is through BBTS, like the link I put below.
And Wolfman Jake, it should be same price as the LGEX toys of last year for deluxes:
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail
Comment by william-james88
May 7, 2016
Kurona wrote:I think this might be one of if not the only time I go for a Takara version over the Hasbro version in a case where the Hasbro version doesn't look bad (like TR Blurr)
Probably because I care a lot more about the Beast Wars guys. I imagine it'd be pretty expensive importing all three tho...
With the beast wars guys, its not really about importing, these are convention exclusives. So its the equivalent of someone in japan wanting to buy Botcon/SDCC exclusives. The only way an american will be able to get him is through BBTS, like the link I put below.
And Wolfman Jake, it should be same price as the LGEX toys of last year for deluxes:
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Legends- LG-21 Hardhead, LG-22 Skull, & LG-23 Galvatron On Display
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WELP NEVER MIND THEN LMAO
Comment by Kurona
May 7, 2016
william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:I think this might be one of if not the only time I go for a Takara version over the Hasbro version in a case where the Hasbro version doesn't look bad (like TR Blurr)
Probably because I care a lot more about the Beast Wars guys. I imagine it'd be pretty expensive importing all three tho...
With the beast wars guys, its not really about importing, these are convention exclusives. So its the equivalent of someone in japan wanting to buy Botcon/SDCC exclusives. The only way an american will be able to get him is through BBTS, like the link I put below.
And Wolfman Jake, it should be same price as the LGEX toys of last year for deluxes:
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail
WELP NEVER MIND THEN LMAO
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Legends- LG-21 Hardhead, LG-22 Skull, & LG-23 Galvatron On Display
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Comment by Wolfman Jake
May 7, 2016
So, maybe $40 Rattrap and Waspinator and $60-65 for Rhinox? Not bad, all told. Better than you would do buying directly from the TFCC for BotCon exclusives of equivalent size, that's for sure. 
By the way, can anyone tell if there's really ANY appreciable difference in the decos between Legends Rattrap and LG-EX Rattrap? They look identical for me except for the Beast Mode eyes being black on the EX version, which is more accurate for the Beast Mode, but the red eyes for the standard Legends release are much more accurate to the Robot Mode, which is the mode I would have him displayed in more often than not. I'm trying to figure out if there is really any reason otherwise to get the EX version of Rattrap. LG-EX Rhinox is a must for his less shiny metallic "skin." Same goes for Waspinator versus his previous Takara Generations version. The lack of the shiny paint looks a lot more on model in terms of coloring, though the deep green and gold did look nice too.
The space between Galvatron's "Headmaster" unit and the "Transtector" mask is still problematic. It looks like it should fit a lot more snuggly together. For instance, the chin on the Headmaster looks like it should plug into the back of the chin strap on the helmet façade. In the pics above, Galvatron's got a weird "double chin" deal going on.
By the way, can anyone tell if there's really ANY appreciable difference in the decos between Legends Rattrap and LG-EX Rattrap? They look identical for me except for the Beast Mode eyes being black on the EX version, which is more accurate for the Beast Mode, but the red eyes for the standard Legends release are much more accurate to the Robot Mode, which is the mode I would have him displayed in more often than not. I'm trying to figure out if there is really any reason otherwise to get the EX version of Rattrap. LG-EX Rhinox is a must for his less shiny metallic "skin." Same goes for Waspinator versus his previous Takara Generations version. The lack of the shiny paint looks a lot more on model in terms of coloring, though the deep green and gold did look nice too.
The space between Galvatron's "Headmaster" unit and the "Transtector" mask is still problematic. It looks like it should fit a lot more snuggly together. For instance, the chin on the Headmaster looks like it should plug into the back of the chin strap on the helmet façade. In the pics above, Galvatron's got a weird "double chin" deal going on.
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Comment by Nemesis Destron
May 7, 2016
Can someone please explain to me what is the gimmick with Galvatron and his mask over the face bit?
It's just so damn weird that I really really hope a 3rd Party comes forward with a much better looking head piece!
It's just so damn weird that I really really hope a 3rd Party comes forward with a much better looking head piece!
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Comment by ZeroWolf
May 7, 2016
I think it it was a way to have the traditional galvatron crown as well as the headmaster gimmick.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Legends- LG-21 Hardhead, LG-22 Skull, & LG-23 Galvatron On Display
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Its not that complex. You just insert the titanmaster as his small head and then a mask flips from his chest and goes over it. And you can then rotate it all.
It works pretty much like the old beetlejuice toys but this time the bigger face stays attached to the body and stored there.
Comment by william-james88
May 7, 2016
Nemesis Destron wrote:Can someone please explain to me what is the gimmick with Galvatron and his mask over the face bit?
It's just so damn weird that I really really hope a 3rd Party comes forward with a much better looking head piece!
Its not that complex. You just insert the titanmaster as his small head and then a mask flips from his chest and goes over it. And you can then rotate it all.
It works pretty much like the old beetlejuice toys but this time the bigger face stays attached to the body and stored there.
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Comment by fenrir72
May 7, 2016
NERDGASM! el Pollo locco Galvatron looks BOSS!
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Legends- LG-21 Hardhead, LG-22 Skull, & LG-23 Galvatron On Display
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Soundwave and Blaster have those helmets as well. It's a bit of a necessary evil as all the Titan Masters have to remain the same size for overall compatibility, and the larger the body (like the Leaders and some Voyagers) the smaller the head would look proportionally. Like the Beetlejuice above.
It's either find a way to bulk them out, or design bigger Titan Masters.
The helmet trick has been done before, mind you, mostly with combiners. Two that come to mind are Energon Optimus Prime and PCC Skyhammer, and G1 Scorponok uses the very same cheat.
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
May 7, 2016
william-james88 wrote:Nemesis Destron wrote:Can someone please explain to me what is the gimmick with Galvatron and his mask over the face bit?
Its not that complex. You just insert the titanmaster as his small head and then a mask flips from his chest and goes over it. And you can then rotate it all.
Soundwave and Blaster have those helmets as well. It's a bit of a necessary evil as all the Titan Masters have to remain the same size for overall compatibility, and the larger the body (like the Leaders and some Voyagers) the smaller the head would look proportionally. Like the Beetlejuice above.
It's either find a way to bulk them out, or design bigger Titan Masters.The helmet trick has been done before, mind you, mostly with combiners. Two that come to mind are Energon Optimus Prime and PCC Skyhammer, and G1 Scorponok uses the very same cheat.
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It's a way to keep the titan masters uniformly sized and compatible with all size classes while still looking proportional on larger figures.
Comment by King Kuuga
May 8, 2016
Nemesis Destron wrote:Can someone please explain to me what is the gimmick with Galvatron and his mask over the face bit?
It's just so damn weird that I really really hope a 3rd Party comes forward with a much better looking head piece!
It's a way to keep the titan masters uniformly sized and compatible with all size classes while still looking proportional on larger figures.
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It also hearkens to the days of the Headmaster Jr. Half head half cockpit.
Comment by fenrir72
May 8, 2016
That Bot wrote:Nemesis Destron wrote:Can someone please explain to me what is the gimmick with Galvatron and his mask over the face bit?
It's just so damn weird that I really really hope a 3rd Party comes forward with a much better looking head piece!
It's a way to keep the titan masters uniformly sized and compatible with all size classes while still looking proportional on larger figures.
It also hearkens to the days of the Headmaster Jr. Half head half cockpit.
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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
May 8, 2016
Ole Galvatron did not look impressed with his new headmaster upgrade. did you see that face? Silent disapproval 
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Comment by Va'al
May 10, 2016
Via site sponsor TFSource, we have some confirmation on the upcoming figures to be released by Takara Tomy in their Transformers Legends line! Ranging from LG27 to LG31, the figures are, in order: Leader class Blaster, Legends class Rewind, Legends class Wheelie, Deluxe class Weirdwolf/Wolfwire, and the big bot himself, Fortress Maximus - check out the grey images below, and speculate away on redecos in the Energon Pub.
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Comment by King Kuuga
May 10, 2016
LG-30 was the mystery one, right? Kind of odd for it to just be Weirdwolf.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Legends- LG-21 Hardhead, LG-22 Skull, & LG-23 Galvatron On Display
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Did they remold Fort Max's feet?
Comment by SpikeyTigertron
May 10, 2016
Did they remold Fort Max's feet?
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Comment by william-james88
May 10, 2016
I guess this means that Takara isn't God afterall and didnt drastically remold fort max for him to be able to pull off his traditional city mode.
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I don't see how you can without giving him entirely new legs. Those legs and knees would need to be entirely redone to do it and to do so many our either have to deal with the back of his legs or sizes being completely visibly hallow or have to deal with huge fold out panels hanging off in city mode. considering his new city mode is technically a version of fort Max's city mode they-like hasbro-probably thought it was good enough and personably I think it is even if you're just laying him down and giving him the splits. It does look better than metroplex's where he just sits down.
Pretty sure the only retooling Max is getting is a new Heasmasters cartoon/toy a crate head for his smaller robot
Comment by Randomhero
May 10, 2016
william-james88 wrote:I guess this means that Takara isn't God afterall and didnt drastically remold fort max for him to be able to pull off his traditional city mode.
I don't see how you can without giving him entirely new legs. Those legs and knees would need to be entirely redone to do it and to do so many our either have to deal with the back of his legs or sizes being completely visibly hallow or have to deal with huge fold out panels hanging off in city mode. considering his new city mode is technically a version of fort Max's city mode they-like hasbro-probably thought it was good enough and personably I think it is even if you're just laying him down and giving him the splits. It does look better than metroplex's where he just sits down.
Pretty sure the only retooling Max is getting is a new Heasmasters cartoon/toy a crate head for his smaller robot
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Comment by Prowl4
May 10, 2016
Wheelie and rewind being accompanied by headmasters is a bit odd. Maybe this is takaras way of selling the additional heads that hasbro are doing separately.
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It seems so. Shockwave is coming with a head as well.
But at least they are getting Nightbeat and Siren's heads
Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
May 10, 2016
Prowl4 wrote:Wheelie and rewind being accompanied by headmasters is a bit odd. Maybe this is takaras way of selling the additional heads that hasbro are doing separately.
It seems so. Shockwave is coming with a head as well.
But at least they are getting Nightbeat and Siren's heads
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Legends- LG-21 Hardhead, LG-22 Skull, & LG-23 Galvatron On Display
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Yeah, I never thought it was possible either. I was just confirming what I believe most of us knew deep down, that Takara couldnt fix whatever people dont like anout this line. Galvatron is still a headmaster with the same gimick and Fort Max' city mode still doesn't look like a city. I love Takara, but I dont think any of us should have expected the amount of retooling needed (which you describe perfectly) to make it so different.
Comment by william-james88
May 10, 2016
Randomhero wrote:william-james88 wrote:I guess this means that Takara isn't God afterall and didnt drastically remold fort max for him to be able to pull off his traditional city mode.
I don't see how you can without giving him entirely new legs. Those legs and knees would need to be entirely redone to do it and to do so many our either have to deal with the back of his legs or sizes being completely visibly hallow or have to deal with huge fold out panels hanging off in city mode. considering his new city mode is technically a version of fort Max's city mode they-like hasbro-probably thought it was good enough and personably I think it is even if you're just laying him down and giving him the splits. It does look better than metroplex's where he just sits down.
Pretty sure the only retooling Max is getting is a new Heasmasters cartoon/toy a crate head for his smaller robot
Yeah, I never thought it was possible either. I was just confirming what I believe most of us knew deep down, that Takara couldnt fix whatever people dont like anout this line. Galvatron is still a headmaster with the same gimick and Fort Max' city mode still doesn't look like a city. I love Takara, but I dont think any of us should have expected the amount of retooling needed (which you describe perfectly) to make it so different.
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Comment by Randomhero
May 10, 2016
I never believed once they'd retool Galvatron because I don't it could be done without competely redesigning and reengineering the entire torso. I remember saying that over 6 months when people in here were throwing a huge fit saying. "Takara will fix it. They don't want characters who were not original headmaster to be headmasters."
Well...they didn't. I never thought for one second they would because it would be too much of a hassle and Takara likes gimmicks as much as hasbro.
I don't have any issues with none headmaster characters joining in on it because it's a total choice to buy them.
If I have had to complain about anything it'd be that we're getting extremely accurate characters with the gimmick. I like the drift retool of Blurr but I would have liked the new Blurr without the gimmick 6 years ago. Same with scourge. The original classics scourge is great but your can't argue him turning into his old bathtub alt mode. That being said in totally going to buy 4 scourge figures to have an army of man operated sweeps because that's awesome to me. Just wish the masters hands weren't hanging off his head.
Well...they didn't. I never thought for one second they would because it would be too much of a hassle and Takara likes gimmicks as much as hasbro.
I don't have any issues with none headmaster characters joining in on it because it's a total choice to buy them.
If I have had to complain about anything it'd be that we're getting extremely accurate characters with the gimmick. I like the drift retool of Blurr but I would have liked the new Blurr without the gimmick 6 years ago. Same with scourge. The original classics scourge is great but your can't argue him turning into his old bathtub alt mode. That being said in totally going to buy 4 scourge figures to have an army of man operated sweeps because that's awesome to me. Just wish the masters hands weren't hanging off his head.
