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The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby NiteStar » Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:36 am

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OK it's official I dont Like it. I dont know what episode they are on now cuz I dont have cable but ive seen the Movie premier at my parents cuz I was there for xmas and I saw the 4th episode on youtube. EPISODE 4 SUCKED! What are they doing with the show? I feel like i'm just listening to a bunch of Whiney high-pitched Sqealing voices. (NEH-NEH _NA -NA NEH_ NA_na NEH) Prowl is jumping around he's a cat. What Motorcycle is as light as CAT? THeir stretched out bodies look bad. They have Huge Upper Bodies and Tooth-Pick legs!(like some ugly dudes you see at the gym)I'm sick of all this Human Story and Dialouge. Almost the same complaint I had about the Movie. Transformers isnt even about Tranformers anymore. Its about all the poeple around them. When that Stupid **** Sari was telling ghost stories I said to myself" WHAT AM I WATCHING?!"What happened to Transformers having their own story that nothing to do with Humans.? Spike and Sparkplug was as Human as they got. And the Transformers themselves dont even look Strong and Fierce at all! The Autobots look like Whimps. Actually they look like people more than Robots. And move like people too!I thought they wanted to make it realistic, cuz if they didnt want to make it realistic they shoulda just make Megatron a Gun. It's all unreal and child-like anyway! And what up with thats girls key(Sari) (What a name)? No ones talking about that damn key at all. "UH excuse me little Bitch whats with that key around your neck?" All of a sudden you got all this power and NO one is barely questioning.
God it sucks BAD! :MAD:
AND what sucks more is......I kinda wanna keep watching to see how it evolves. :BOOM: :BANG_HEAD: UH i'm a loser!

I'm, sorry!G1 was way Better any Generation. I'll say it now untill forever! /:)

And more thing..... I'm almost tired of hearing about the Allspark.
Why cant they go back to stealing Energon cubes?!

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby GiraffeSwordsman » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:07 am

WOW. THIS SHOW ROCKS! I was really impressed by this last episode. The amount of G1 nods in it just did it for me, and Grimlock was badass. I did not expect his head to be black, which just made him look more G1 like, thus making him more awesome. My only question is this: it's been a while since I've seen a G1 video, but didnt the news reporter look like the one in G1? It might be me tripping on shrooms, but was it?
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby sandmunky » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:10 am

the autobots don't really have that kind of badassery edge to them that I got from the characters in g1 and beast wars. It doesn't help that they are all total wimps either. Seriously, starscream by HIMSELF was able to completely clean their clocks. Hell Optimus DIED fighting him and had to get revived using Sari's key.

I'm sorry, but it really doesn't make for entertaining battle scenes or action. I know the writers said the decepticons were going to be more of a military like threat where the autobots would be working as a team to contend with just one, but what about when the Decepticons will be working as a team? If Starscream was bad enough, Megatron will just wipe the floor with them. So unless they start to obviously get better, any victory against the whole team of them is just screaming deus ex machina to me, because from what I've seen they are all going to get slagged.

to quote ign writer Travis Ficcket:

"This Optimus Prime cannot go toe-to-toe with Megatron. He can't even go toe-to-toe with Starscream, which leads to a sequence where Prime grabs the all-spark and then runs away from Starscream. This totally works in the context of this story and these characters…except this character is named Optimus Prime. Imagine Superman showing up to intimidate Lex Luthor, only to have Luthor give Supes a big wedgie then holds him down and beats him with his own hands while yelling "Why you hitting yourself? Why you hitting yourself?" It's kind of like that."
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:30 am

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Sorry I didnt know.I've seen other's post youtube links before but I guess this is different because this episode is offical and not fanmade.

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Dr Buffalo » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:34 am

Optimus was never really the Superman arhcetype, he's more like Captain America, his body's only stronger than the average bear, but it's his indomitable spirit that makes him a hero. Only Japan makes him the Gurren Lagann "smack-the-bad-guys-around-with-a-weapon-twice-my-size" style super robot.

Don't worry, something tells me that once the series has run its course, well be seeing a sequel with Optimus having climbed up the ranks to the top of the chain and knocking Megatron (Galvatron?) into orbit with a punch.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:10 pm

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One other thing I've noticed about the Dinobots. Whenever Swoop screeched, he sounded just like Birdramon from Digimon.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby OptitronPrime » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:29 pm

sandmunky wrote:the autobots don't really have that kind of badassery edge to them that I got from the characters in g1 and beast wars. It doesn't help that they are all total wimps either. Seriously, starscream by HIMSELF was able to completely clean their clocks. Hell Optimus DIED fighting him and had to get revived using Sari's key.

I'm sorry, but it really doesn't make for entertaining battle scenes or action. I know the writers said the decepticons were going to be more of a military like threat where the autobots would be working as a team to contend with just one, but what about when the Decepticons will be working as a team? If Starscream was bad enough, Megatron will just wipe the floor with them. So unless they start to obviously get better, any victory against the whole team of them is just screaming deus ex machina to me, because from what I've seen they are all going to get slagged.

to quote ign writer Travis Ficcket:

"This Optimus Prime cannot go toe-to-toe with Megatron. He can't even go toe-to-toe with Starscream, which leads to a sequence where Prime grabs the all-spark and then runs away from Starscream. This totally works in the context of this story and these characters…except this character is named Optimus Prime. Imagine Superman showing up to intimidate Lex Luthor, only to have Luthor give Supes a big wedgie then holds him down and beats him with his own hands while yelling "Why you hitting yourself? Why you hitting yourself?" It's kind of like that."

Actually I'm glad the Autobots aren't as awsome as before because before they always one and made the decepticions look dumb. It's nice to see the Decepticion leader being able to kick 5 Autobots butts without a body instead of having him being deafeated in every episode. That's why I didn't think Prime died in the movie after kickin' Megs butt allthose times.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:07 pm

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Well, you know the Autobots' fighting skills have to improve over time. I don't think they'll be struggling against a Decepticon every time one appears. Or else, it wouldn't be that enjoyable to see the Autobots losing at first and then doing something as a last resort to just barely win in the end all the time.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby sandmunky » Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:49 pm

exactly my point. it just isn't enjoyable to see that. Beast Wars had some of the most intense action I ever saw in a transformers cartoon, and I enjoyed every minute of it. Sure the novelty of the cgi helped, but it was still fun watching it actually be an even fight.

Not to mention what are the little kids going to do with their toys ? Just have the decepticons knock throw them around? Perhaps Hasbro might want to make them a little more breakable for that purpose. =p. So we get toys like Optimus Prime with completely and utterly thrashed by Starscream action!
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Saberspark model H. » Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:31 am

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Yay for Grimlock!!! Also did anyone else notice the autobot insignia on his chest when he Transformed. Also what gave him the power to Transform and all those people who wine about the show just shut up and give it a chance its only has two episodes out now.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:59 am

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Saberspark model H. wrote:Yay for Grimlock!!! Also did anyone else notice the autobot insignia on his chest when he Transformed. Also what gave him the power to Transform and all those people who wine about the show just shut up and give it a chance its only has two episodes out now.


Its 3 episodes if you count the 1 1/2 hour as one episode. :-P
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Whisper » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:43 am

Heheh... I'm a little late on this but I just finished watching the pilot episode.

My take:

1. Starscream was absolutely spot on. Voice, character, everything. Not having ever watched Spongebob makes it better for me I guess. :lol:
2. Lots of G1 references to make me a happy bunny, but thankfully they haven't tried to rehash the original series. I like my G1 unsullied. :P
3. The artwork is going to take a bit of getting used to, but it's pretty well done. I just need to make sure I don't watch Gundam Seed before or afterwards... :lol:

Overall, this looks like a series I could actually watch... B-)
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Omega Charge » Mon Jan 14, 2008 3:26 pm

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are we still going to see the episode "Meltdown"? Here it lists it as episode 8.
http://www.tv.com/transformers-animated ... ep_title;7
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Archanubis » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:00 pm

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Whisper wrote:1. Starscream was absolutely spot on. Voice, character, everything.

I'm probably going to be lynched for saying this, but do they HAVE to give Starscream the voice quality of nails on a chalkboard? It was good for G1, but these days, they could give him a much smoother voice quality - like a greasy politician (I'd say used carsalesman, but I think too many people would think Bernie Mac from the movie).
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:44 pm

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Saberspark model H. wrote:Yay for Grimlock!!! Also did anyone else notice the autobot insignia on his chest when he Transformed. Also what gave him the power to Transform and all those people who wine about the show just shut up and give it a chance its only has two episodes out now.


Its 3 episodes if you count the 1 1/2 hour as one episode.


Actually its five. Transform and Roll Out Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Home is where the Spark is, and Blast From the Past. Had Total Meltdown aired we would be getting six instead of five. But according to Omega Charge:

Omega Charge wrote:are we still going to see the episode "Meltdown"? Here it lists it as episode 8.
http://www.tv.com/transformers-animated ... ep_title;7


it will be aired as episode eight, which I hope is true and not just some rumor.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:51 pm

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Saberspark model H. wrote:Yay for Grimlock!!! Also did anyone else notice the autobot insignia on his chest when he Transformed. Also what gave him the power to Transform and all those people who wine about the show just shut up and give it a chance its only has two episodes out now.


Its 3 episodes if you count the 1 1/2 hour as one episode.


Actually its five. Transform and Roll Out Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Home is where the Spark is, and Blast From the Past. Had Total Meltdown aired we would be getting six instead of five. But according to Omega Charge:

Omega Charge wrote:are we still going to see the episode "Meltdown"? Here it lists it as episode 8.
http://www.tv.com/transformers-animated ... ep_title;7


it will be aired as episode eight, which I hope is true and not just some rumor.


I said it's 3 "IF" you count the 1 1/2 episode as 1.I count them as 3 but others might say it 1.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Overcracker » Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:40 pm

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Saberspark model H. wrote: ... Also what gave him the power to Transform ...


2 options:
Either it was Sari's key which along with the giving them their Spark enabled them to transform. Since it also Altered their look after the blast, form normal looking dinosaurs to ones with details and mechanical bits in red and gold.

Or it was one of Megatron's "features" after he rebuilt them with Dr. Sumdac.

Personally i think it was one of Megatron's Features, and the key just provided the Spark when it sensed something in them.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Sabrblade » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:34 pm

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Or, the Allspark Key coulda granted them transformation and insignias, knowing whose side they would join later on.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Savage » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:23 pm

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Did they have insignias?

Also, I dont think the Key changed their outward appearance. I think the reptillian "skin" was just scorched off by the blast, revealing what they looked like underneath.

As for the ability to transform, I'm leaning towards the Key (since it certainly gave them sparks), but it could have been Megatron.
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Solrac333 » Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:05 pm

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Whisper wrote:1. Starscream was absolutely spot on. Voice, character, everything.

I'm probably going to be lynched for saying this, but do they HAVE to give Starscream the voice quality of nails on a chalkboard? It was good for G1, but these days, they could give him a much smoother voice quality - like a greasy politician (I'd say used carsalesman, but I think too many people would think Bernie Mac from the movie).

That's like asking, "Do they have to make Porky Pig studder when he talks?"
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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Pyrostrata » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:32 pm

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Re: The Official Transformers: Animated Discussion Thread!

Postby Saber Prime » Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:23 am

I just watched Blast from the past.

My thoughts...

1. Grimlock still says "Me Grimlock" but not quite as offtin as the original so he didn't seem quite as annoying but still annoying.

2. I like Grimlock's design in Animated. G1 Grimlock looked like any other robot but Animated Grimlock actully has a mouth that matches his character perfectly. So far his is the best design of the entire show.

3. Did anyone else notice that Slag and Swoop NEVER spoke? They allso seemed suprised and afraid when Grimlock Transformed.

4. Never say "They're just machines", "I'm going to take them apart.", or "I'll melt them down in the morning." to a group of machines.

5. I like how when Megatron failed to get the Dinobots to obey him that he took advantage of them thinking they were real dinosaurs insted. If you can't get loyatly out of your creations, exsploiting a weakness allways works.

6. Professor Sumdac continues to be an idiot. I really don't like him. Seriously, how could he not tell Megatron was lieing, Megatron is the worst lier ever.

7. I think the blast simply burned off the "skin" to reviel the robotic interior because no one seemed suprised by their change of appearance so they must have known that was what they looked like underneath.

8. I'm fairly sure Megatron designed them to Transform sence he did addmit to giving them other abilitys. (fire breath)
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