Here's where Hasbro's Masterpiece Optimus Prime will be available

You know, I'm probably skipping this. It's like fighting the urge to breathe, but $165 is a lot of money for a new box.

ScottyP wrote:You know, I'm probably skipping this. It's like fighting the urge to breathe, but $165 is a lot of money for a new box.

New box what you need new box for if you all ready own figure,.

No need buy this figure again I will stick with original good luck who does want him and to buy in store

ScottyP wrote:You know, I'm probably skipping this. It's like fighting the urge to breathe, but $165 is a lot of money for a new box.

ScottyP was Shajaki the whole time!

Kurona wrote:

ScottyP wrote:You know, I'm probably skipping this. It's like fighting the urge to breathe, but $165 is a lot of money for a new box.

ScottyP was Shajaki the whole time!

shajaki wrote:

Kurona wrote:

ScottyP wrote:You know, I'm probably skipping this. It's like fighting the urge to breathe, but $165 is a lot of money for a new box.

ScottyP was Shajaki the whole time!

I could care less about the box. I saved $30 bucks on Takara MP Thundercracker with a banged up box. I started collecting MP late in the game and the only reason it was still available was because of all the picky mint box collectors lol. Thanks guys.

Rated X wrote:

shajaki wrote:

Kurona wrote:

ScottyP wrote:You know, I'm probably skipping this. It's like fighting the urge to breathe, but $165 is a lot of money for a new box.

ScottyP was Shajaki the whole time!

I could care less about the box. I saved $30 bucks on Takara MP Thundercracker with a banged up box. I started collecting MP late in the game and the only reason it was still available was because of all the picky mint box collectors lol. Thanks guys.

Who said anything about mint boxes or being MISB/MIB collectors?

I actually just bought a MP Dirge with a dinged up box. THAT I'ma open too.

shajaki wrote:I actually just bought a MP Dirge with a dinged up box. THAT I'ma open too.

I just paid for a MP Ramjet with a dinged up box! He's sure as hell not staying in the box either.
I also paid for a MP Dirge, but that's through Premium Collectables so the chances of it even arriving, let alone in mint condition, are pretty remote. Fuck you PC.

shajaki wrote:

Rated X wrote:

shajaki wrote:

Kurona wrote:

ScottyP wrote:You know, I'm probably skipping this. It's like fighting the urge to breathe, but $165 is a lot of money for a new box.

ScottyP was Shajaki the whole time!

I could care less about the box. I saved $30 bucks on Takara MP Thundercracker with a banged up box. I started collecting MP late in the game and the only reason it was still available was because of all the picky mint box collectors lol. Thanks guys.

Who said anything about mint boxes or being MISB/MIB collectors?

I actually just bought a MP Dirge with a dinged up box. THAT I'ma open too.

So let me get this straight....

Youll buy the exact same toy to get a box variant, but you dont care if the box is damaged?

You hinted you were a box completionest on the Black Convoy reissue takara thread...

If it's more than $130, I'm going to pass and stick with my YOTH. I don't see Roller pictured in this release.

Man, this is tempting, but I don't know if I can justify the price tag to myself. They are doing a regular mass-retail release of this, right? If so, there might be hope of a sale. Might pick it up then.

Rated X wrote:So let me get this straight....

Youll buy the exact same toy to get a box variant, but you dont care if the box is damaged?

You hinted you were a box completionest on the Black Convoy reissue takara thread...

Jeezus you like to twist things....

Yes, I collect box variants. If it's new, I'll open it gauranteed. If its simply a box variant, I might still open it if I want to display a second one for any reason.

Yes I care if the box is damaged, BUT it's not the end of the world if it is. The way I am with my MP collection is, I need the box and it needs to be complete, and if I had to put a number on it, it'd have to be 7/10 condition.

All that said, I'm not buying Dirge to keep MISB. This hasbro MP-10? I'll likely be leaving sealed. I don't currently see a reason to open it. So yeah, I'll try to get a mint box. But I will take whatever I can get.

SpaceKaseJase wrote:If it's more than $130, I'm going to pass and stick with my YOTH. I don't see Roller pictured in this release.

YOTH aside, there's no reason to believe Roller isn't included.

EmirateXaaron wrote:They are doing a regular mass-retail release of this, right? If so, there might be hope of a sale.

Regular mass retail release.... in the sense that all the other TRU MP's are. So he could prove quite tricky to find. I would seriously advise against the "wait for a sale" strategy.

shajaki wrote:Regular mass retail release.... in the sense that all the other TRU MP's are. So he could prove quite tricky to find. I would seriously advise against the "wait for a sale" strategy.

Gotcha. I might watch the SDCC stuff, see how quickly he's selling. If I pass on my SDCC chance, I'll probably go for him if I find him in any of the local TRUs.

I enjoy the hunt for masterpiece figures.

These items will also be available at Toys“R”Us stores nationwide later this year.

I'll believe it when I see it.

Optimum Supreme wrote:

These items will also be available at Toys“R”Us stores nationwide later this year.

I'll believe it when I see it.

Give me 5 mins

Hasbro Masterpiece MP-10 Optimus Prime is now in Toysrus Stores in Canada. This particular sighting by cybertron.ca member MULTIPLEX comes from a store in Kitchener Ontario. His price is now $229.99 CDN. While the price looks really high, especially compared to the initial release of $100 in both Canada and the US, the price of subsequent releases have increased. This is comparative to the recent Hasbro Asia rerelease which priced the toy at $160 USD which converts to around $200 CDN (and using Hasbro Canada's 20$ off coupons will get you to enarly tha same price). It is easy to assume that this toy will thus have a similar $160 USD price point when released in the US.

Another fun tidbit is that Hasbro keeps the original Takara numbering of MP-10 and while that could have worked with their own reset (with MP-01 being Acid Storm), the previous release in this Hasbo MP line was Bumblebee at MP-08. Might there have been an additional MP release planned between Bumblebee and Optimus, sporting the MP-09 numbering? Feel free to speculate.

If you want a quick refresher on what MP-10 has to offer, please check this recent ad from Hasbro starring Seibertron's own podcasting star XRotorstormX.

Kinda wish I waited. I ponied up 160 for the Asia reissue. As we've discussed, the packaging for that is terrible. I wonder if the legs on the reissue tab better in truck mode.

nycPrime wrote:Kinda wish I waited. I ponied up 160 for the Asia reissue. As we've discussed, the packaging for that is terrible.

yeah it looks designed to be discarded like a Rescue Bot package. I always found that a super odd choice.

nycPrime wrote:Kinda wish I waited. I ponied up 160 for the Asia reissue. As we've discussed, the packaging for that is terrible. I wonder if the legs on the reissue tab better in truck mode.

You bought toy for package art no offense but that's waste of money

are there any major differences between this one and the old Hasbro MP-10 that got released?

dragons wrote:

nycPrime wrote:Kinda wish I waited. I ponied up 160 for the Asia reissue. As we've discussed, the packaging for that is terrible. I wonder if the legs on the reissue tab better in truck mode.

You bought toy for package art no offense but that's waste of money

I'm not entirely sure what you mean. I purchased Asia reissue of MP-10 about 1.5 years ago, and it's my only copy of MP-10. As previously discussed, the packaging for that reissue is terrible. If I had known they would reissue MP-10 in the US, and if I can pay approximately the same price as I did for the reissue (lotta IF's), I would have waited for this reissue. If nothing else, I would get a nicer box. The only boxes I keep are MPs and box sets.

ZachimusPrime wrote:are there any major differences between this one and the old Hasbro MP-10 that got released?

None. Its Hasbro's intention to have it be the same as possible it seems.

And NYC, the MP boxes are the only ones I keep too. Especially since Takara usually makes them so easily stackable/storeable and compact. Oh and I also keep the Korean Boxes for the Beast Wars Neo toys. Hasve ou seen those? They look so epic I cant get myself to get rid of em. Look up Sonokong Beast Wars Neo and be ready for a seizure.

william-james88 wrote:

ZachimusPrime wrote:are there any major differences between this one and the old Hasbro MP-10 that got released?

None. Its Hasbro's intention to have it be the same as possible it seems.

Thanks

dragons wrote:You bought toy for package art no offense but that's waste of money

Just because it doesn't reflect YOUR PERSONAL collecting habits doesn't make it a waste.

shajaki wrote:

dragons wrote:You bought toy for package art no offense but that's waste of money

Just because it doesn't reflect YOUR PERSONAL collecting habits doesn't make it a waste.

For real. I already have a Hasbro MP-10, but I'm probably gonna sell it, and buy this new offering, simply because it has a much better box.

Ironhidensh wrote:

shajaki wrote:

dragons wrote:You bought toy for package art no offense but that's waste of money

Just because it doesn't reflect YOUR PERSONAL collecting habits doesn't make it a waste.

For real. I already have a Hasbro MP-10, but I'm probably gonna sell it, and buy this new offering, simply because it has a much better box.

That's hardcore

Yeah, I mean; you should think about it, make sure you know what you're getting into and make sure you have the finances... but if that's all fine, friggin' go for it. You want that box and you know what you're doing and you've got the cash? You go get that box.

He has supposedly started popping up in the US. If anyone has found this in stores, please tell us. You can post here with a pic and send us an e-mail (by clicking on my signature) with a link to your post.

Just to clarify, there's no difference between the one hitting shelves, the original issue, and the one sold at SDCC?

nycPrime wrote:Just to clarify, there's no difference between the one hitting shelves, the original issue, and the one sold at SDCC?

There is no difference between this one and the one sold at SDCC. BUT both of those have that new box, which si different from the original release.

william-james88 wrote:

nycPrime wrote:Just to clarify, there's no difference between the one hitting shelves, the original issue, and the one sold at SDCC?

There is no difference between this one and the one sold at SDCC. BUT both of those have that new box, which si different from the original release.

Looked this up out of curiosity. I still have my reissue box somewhere. I think I need to list it on ebay.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?siteid=0&pub=5574891718&campid=5336631220&customid=&toolid=10001&mkevt=1&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FTransformers-Ma%20...%207675.l2557%3C%2Fa%3E%3F

Courtesy of fellow Seibertronian dahpadre, we have a first sighting in the US (after Canada) of the Hasbro reissue of Transformers Masterpiece Optimus Prime, with the MP-10 designation and the new reissue box! The image below shows the figure on the shelf in the Toys'R'Us in Joliet, Illinois.

The surprising fact is that, according to TRU, it's still a little early for the figure to be showing up at physical retail - so good luck, use the Sightings Database and happy hunting!

It would be nice to think that uk may ever get some releases like that

Grabbed this in MN today. Total impulse buy. I don't follow MP at all so wasn't sure it was significant that he was there. First MP figure

Mr Skram wrote:Grabbed this in MN today. Total impulse buy. I don't follow MP at all so wasn't sure it was significant that he was there. First MP figure

And so it begins lol

MP-10 is now available for store pickup. A few in my area have it in stock and I'm soooo tempted to get one just for the box. It's really not justifiable....must resist!

A friend and i found 5 mp-10s over here in AZ.

When Hasbro announced a new release of MP-10 Optimus Prime for one of their Transformers Masterpiece releases this year, there was some uncertainty with regards to whether this new release would have changes from the previous 2012 Hasbro release of the toy. While some fans speculated about various potential changes, including variations that would bring the toy closer to the original Takara Tomy MP-10, the initial SDCC release and subsequent retail sightings this week haven't yet led to any firm answers to this question.

I picked up this figure yesterday afternoon and have taken a great deal of photos of it, along with comparisons to the aforementioned 2012 Hasbro release and Takara Tomy's MP-10 Convoy. While I'm not an expert toy photographer and found some things in the lighting I'd go back and fix if I did this again, I've taken what are hopefully some pretty clean shots (and left them generally untouched) to help fans decide whether to go after this latest release or track down one of the previous releases of the mold on the secondary market.

For comprehensive galleries that have the (much, much nicer!) Seibertron.com gallery treatment for the previous releases, look here for the 2012 Hasbro Masterpiece Optimus Prime and here for the Takara Tomy MP-10 Convoy.


To start with, check out the new release in robot mode.



You may have already noticed some slight differences with the 2012 version, but if not, here's a side by side look:

The reds on the releases are almost identical, and under most lighting these will look the same. The application and plan for paint apps is also roughly the same. One thing you may notice on my sample from even this shot and the previous one above is that the passenger side truck window has an opaque finish on it whereas the driver's side one does not. None of the other versions of the toy have this (unless the MP-10A Green BAPE version does, which is the only version of this mold I don't own), and it remains to be seen if this is a consistent design element or a factory mistake on my sample. The other differences you may have noticed are primarily visible from the waist down. With that in mind, enjoy this shot of awkwardly posed toys that helps illustrate these differences a bit closer.


The clear plastic pieces in the waist are noticeably different between these two releases, with the latest 2017 version featuring a bright yellow as opposed to the darker, more amber toned 2012 version. The grays of the thighs are also different, with the latest one being a bit brighter shade. The blues are actually a little different as well, but some other shots later will put this on display more effectively.

Just for completeness' sake, here are the same two pictures except with Takara's MP-10 Convoy as the comparison piece.




While many fans are familiar with the differences between Takara Tomy's release and the Hasbro releases, some newer collectors may not be. As seen above, the shades of color are similar yet completely different on almost every part of the toy. In my opinion, the Takara release remains the nicest, cleanest, and most "special" looking Masterpiece Optimus Prime, the Hasbro versions make some notable changes that are definite improvements. These include the painted eyes that help give Prime some much needed expression, as well as the painted yellow lights on the top of the truck cab.


Again, I'll start out with just some straightforward solo shots of the latest Hasbro MP-10 Optimus Prime.


Straight away, you may notice the driver side window piece not locking into place. Only this side does this, and this is the worst example of the piece not solidly locking into place that I can find among the 9 (10? Something.) versions of this toy in various colors in my house. Hopefully, this is again just something not done well on my particular sample and not a consistent issue with this run of Optimus. Let your fellow Seibertronians know in the comments if you have a quick fix for this problem!


And now, some comparison images.


I put the truck cabs in this odd side by side configuration to help illustrate the subtle difference in blues between the toys. The latest version of Hasbro's MP-10 Optimus Prime is, as speculated, a darker blue - but just barely. This isn't a dramatic difference and may not have been a planned one. In other words, this could just be a happenstance difference in shade caused by a small variance in how much blue polystyrene/etc got put in to the injection molding equipment this time as opposed to that other time. As more collectors get the toy in-hand, we'll have to see if this variation holds true as a rule.


Once again for the purposes of being thorough, here are (roughly) the same shots using Takara's MP-10 Convoy instead.


Most of the same previously identified differences are also evident here, with the choice of paint for the cab lights sticking out quite evidently in Optimus' vehicle mode. You can also see the slight difference in paint on the rear of the waist with Hasbro's use of red as opposed to Takara's use of blue. Please do not let me know which is more cartoon accurate, I'm good without pics of OP's rear.


Adding the trailer to the cab doesn't make anything jump out as immediately different between the three trailers. Nevertheless, below are images of each version with the trailer attached in alt mode.


While you may have noticed some subtle changes in each (not helped at all by my not-consistent-at-all placement of the cab and trailer in each shot), some more direct comparisons are helpful in distinguishing the trailers of the toys.


Taking the two Hasbro version trailers really only yields one difference, that being in the amount of white paint used in the outlines. There's another difference in the paint which is seen just below, but it was hard to capture on camera.


The latest release uses a gloss paint for the white on the trailer, while the first 2012 Hasbro Masterpiece release sees this in a matte white. Again, this wasn't easy to photograph but the difference is indeed there.


This same gloss coat/dull coat difference holds when looking at the Takara version's trailer, but you may also note the Takara trailer has smaller, and ultimately cleaner, white pin-striping along the side of the trailer's exterior. There's also a minor touch in how the white paint is applied to the Autobot symbol on Convoy to give it just ever-so-slightly a more "large-eyed-G1-faction-symbol" look.


There's not much difference at all between the three trailers when viewed from the back. The paint on the Takara trailer is either a slightly different shade of silver, or on thicker in general. The difference visible here is somewhat due to lighting but is somewhat evident in normal conditions as well.


The latest 2017 Optimus Prime release takes the "CE" and product ID tampographs off of the robot interior (as seen on the 2012 Hasbro release) and moves this to the bottom of the trailer. Outside of that, there's no difference in the part of the trailer you're likely never to look at, and this is a smart place to put this information - or at least it beats a very visible inner-Prowl leg.


One of the most well known differences between the initial Hasbro and Takara releases of MP-10 Optimus Prime was the silver paint present within the trailer of Takara's release that was absent on the 2012 Hasbro release. Fans had wondered if the increased price point of the new version for this year was indicative of this paint being restored. The answer turns out to be "yes!"


While the silver on the inner sides of the trailer is present, you may notice in the first shot of the base mode that it seems the silver paint on the mini-figure seats and inside the battle station is not there. The second picture here confirms this. One out of two isn't bad, but at the $160 asking price it feels like a cut corner. Another difference here to note is the canopy on the repair module/battle station command unit, which is much more transparent on this release. As you'll see below, the other versions of Masterpiece Optimus Prime feature a much smokier look for this canopy.


Here for reference is the initial Hasbro release of the toy, with the bare gray plastic interior of the trailer clearly visible. The new release does give a great improvement to this with the detail of the molding much more evident with a coat of paint to clean it up. The silver also provides the faintest amount of reflection, creating some contrast in the lines not present on bare plastic.


Takara's version is still the clear winner for details on the inside of the trailer (and out, in my opinion.) The extra accents along with the nice silver panels inside create a look that makes it feel special, especially so in the "Repair Bay" mode. All three "Repair Bay" modes are pictured below.


This was always an interesting mode to me, as it's reminiscent of a piloted mech being serviced before takeoff. Of course, given the Diaclone roots of the original Optimus Prime toy, this makes quite a bit of sense. Again, the extra details on the Takara version help this mode to pop, and it's in this mode where the lack of eye paint is actually somewhat beneficial, as it almost gives the look that Convoy is "powered down" while in this bay.


Just as a parting note on this part of the article - there's even paint inside the cockpit on this one! A very nice touch indeed.


The Roller included with the Hasbro release is blue as opposed to the silver of the Takara Convoy. Which Hasbro release am I referring to? Either of them.


The blues are a little different between the two Hasbro versions, with the latest one being just a hint darker. It's not as subtle as the blues of Optimus' legs, but it's not a dramatic difference either.


As seen here, the rifles aren't any different. The spring loaded mechanism on the newest release was a little bit looser, especially when storing it in the trailer, but not the worst sample of all the MP-10 based figures that I've seen. This is likely another case where one example of this latest Hasbro MP-10 won't be the same as others. You'll also notice Spike in there, who is the next topic in this look at these several versions of Optimus Prime.


The mini-figures included with these Masterpiece toys are just awful. Spike was the first, and is still as bad now as he was upon first release. This amorphous, vaguely human shaped blob is also included with the newest Hasbro MP-10 Optimus Prime, and is here to haunt your dreams with his no-face.


His boots are yellower this time, going from a construction site yellow to full on rainstorm preparation rubber boots. Thankfully, he's still easy enough to store in the trailer forever never to return to flop over lifelessly with his expression that has always been lifeless anyhow. Let's move on to more exciting comparisons.


If there's ever been a case of an accessory having variation where I don't think it was ever intended, it's with the different versions of the Matrix of Leadership that come with each of these versions of Masterpiece Optimus Prime. They're pictured just below, with the caption guiding you as to what's what.


The newest one has a nice brass-orange color around it, much darker than the original 2012 Hasbro Masterpiece release, but still different from the Takara Tomy matrix. I find this to be a fun variation, as this accessory is infinitely pretty to look at in almost every color its been cast in. The clear blues are different as well, and I cranked up the exposure a little in this next shot to illustrate it.


No matter which blue you prefer here, I don't think you can go wrong. Blue is blue. The contrast in the latest is nice, with the dark blue going along with the deeper orange. The first Hasbro release has the lightest of the three blue colors, with the Takara version coming somewhere in between them, yet still on the darker side of things. At any rate, it's always nice to see these included, and I hope other upcoming releases such as MP-711 continue to play around with different color schemes for this iconic little accessory.


As expected, this latest release also includes an energy ax accessory. There's not much to say about it, so let's get to the comparisons.


The ax included with this most recent Hasbro MP-10 Optimus Prime got big somehow, especially compared to the original Hasbro version. That bottom point of the blade looks like it could hurt - were this not made of soft plastic. Hopefully, this is made of some material that will hold up over time if stored within the trailer. It'd be unfortunate if plasticizer migration struck there, as it recently has on poor Revenge of the Fallen Voyager Class Bludgeon.


While transforming each of these into truck mode, I noticed one final odd variation. The newest version of this toy has a blue color to a piece that's not really visible in either mode once transformed. It's the painted diecast piece that sits just behind the truck's grille that is used to clip the torso to the lower body securely in robot mode. Being very hard to photograph in a reasonable way, I went with the only logical choice and made a terrible attempt at a heroic mid-transformation pose to show it.


Do you see it in there? Not a big thing, but it is still one more difference. Hopefully the paint on it holds up well, as I also noticed the red starting to chip away from that part while transforming my 2012 Hasbro Prime.

This newest Hasbro Masterpiece Optimus Prime release is a great opportunity for fans that missed out on this toy for one reason or another before. It takes many of the good elements of the first Hasbro version, adds in a slight bit of the Takara Tomy Convoy's flair with the silver paint, and should satisfy most fans that don't yet own this mold in its originally intended color scheme of red and blue. If you've got the Takara version already, I don't think this is different in enough ways that I can call improvements to warrant a purchase almost as much as that one likely was for you. The Takara Tomy Convoy still feels like the most polished of these toys, even though I'd love to see them put it out with colored eyes like the Hasbro versions have. This is just my opinion, of course, and hopefully with the images above and this accompanying article, you'll now have enough information to decide if it's time to double-dip.

If you have the first Hasbro release, this one's definitely not recommended. It's more expensive and for all practical, not-crazy-person reasons, it's basically the same outside of the inner paint for the trailer. If you're like me though and really only wanted it if there was at least one solid, measurable, distinguishable different characteristic between the two, then have no fear and head on over to your local Toys R Us and grab one while you can, or see if it comes in stock online. Don't forget to use our Sightings Section and local Sightings Forums on the Energon Pub to let your other Seibertronian friends know if you see it out and about!

I have the 2012 Hasbro version of MP-10. Other than maybe having a silver version of Roller, there is nothing else, no minor paint details, that would make me get rid of it & buy another version.....unless they can fix that index finger that always seems to want to pop off

I have the Asia reissue and I believe the index finger has popped off mine a few times

Huh. I never really paid much attention to the new Prime because with the MP-10 numbering I assumed it would be identical to the Japanese version. But now that I know it's basically a reissue of Hasbro's recolor I kinda want it. I find the colors to be a little more cartoonish which is appealing given the trend towards cartoon accuracy in Takara Tomy MPs.

Just wish they'd release the figure alone the way MP-10B is. I have no use for expensive trailers that take up shelf space.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Just wish they'd release the figure alone the way MP-10B is. I have no use for expensive trailers that take up shelf space.

Emerje

While I understand the sentiment, I'd rather they make the trailers. It's weird to me not having one for the likes of 10B and the Bapes. I guess the ideal thing would be to sell them separately, but my guess is someone ran the math and said it was too risky financially to put out trailers solo.

Talking of finances, one of the reasons I wish he was sold without the trailer would be so the price can go down...

ScottyP wrote:

Emerje wrote:Just wish they'd release the figure alone the way MP-10B is. I have no use for expensive trailers that take up shelf space.

Emerje

While I understand the sentiment, I'd rather they make the trailers. It's weird to me not having one for the likes of 10B and the Bapes. I guess the ideal thing would be to sell them separately, but my guess is someone ran the math and said it was too risky financially to put out trailers solo.

I think MP-10 should have the trailer. I'm ok with the variants to not have one to bring the price down. I PO'd 10B because I could live with the cost. Not sure if I would've gotten it if it was more expensive cuz of a trailer. Plus I don't want to make space for another trailer.

The US Toys R Us website has put up a listing for the new re-release of Masterpiece MP-10 Optimus Prime! While the figure has been making appearances on store shelves in some parts of the world, he has been fairly hard to come by, so being able to order him online might save some collectors the trouble of hunting him down. The penultimate OP is listed for $159.99 USD, is exclusive to Toys R Us, and does currently qualify for free shipping. The Hasbro version of the classic MP is currently out of stock, but will probably become available soon, and when he does, you'll hear about it here, on Seibertron.com!



Does this MP-10 look too similar to his previous releases for your taste? Check out Seibertron.com's guide on the differences between them here to help you decide!

Am I missing something? This has been available from the website for quite some time. It was available for shipping a few weeks back too, but that's probably sold out. Unless there's a refresh, it's only available in stores. Last I checked, there were a bunch of stores by me that still had stock.

Yeah, this has been up for months. They may have pulled the listing and re-added it with new stock, but this is not a new listing.

Am I looking at the comparison shots right?? The side by side of the 2012 Hasbro and even the Takara Tomy make the MP-10 of 2017 somehow look a bit shorter and slightly wider in bot mode..

is that the way they are, or is it just perspective from the camera shots??

skywarp-2 wrote:Am I looking at the comparison shots right?? The side by side of the 2012 Hasbro and even the Takara Tomy make the MP-10 of 2017 somehow look a bit shorter and slightly wider in bot mode..

is that the way they are, or is it just perspective from the camera shots??

They decided to slightly alter the mold (making him taller and wider by 0.47cm) for this release.