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Re: FACTS - HMW2 Thread

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Re: FACTS - HMW2 Thread

Postby Omega Sentinel » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:10 am

Fearless Echoes wrote:[color=red]I know this is gonna prove unpopuler, but I think there should be a lock put upon using the bigger canon names (Megatron, Gavlatron, Soundwave, Hotrod and most of the other major G1 charecters).
You read my mind. I am blocking those names because of a "classics battle" function where you can go up against real characters with their real stats.

Fearless Echoes wrote:The really big canon names should be reserved as prize names or NPCs.
They will be NPCs. Again, you read my mind :P

Fearless Echoes wrote:Also, if those were removed from active use, suddenly all the acusations of name stealing would disapear...
Somehow I doubt we will ever be completely rid of accusations of anything.


There will not be a grace period. I think everyone is still thinking of HMW2 in HMW1 terms. You will not automatically have 12 characters but will have to use a specific Allspark Key to create them which means they have to be earned. 12 characters will be the max as in this game and you will start the game with an undetermined amount of character creation Allspark Keys (leaning towards 4) but it won't be 12. There also won't be "active" and "inactive" bots at all. If you have 12 characters then you can have 12 characters doing something.

Bottom line is that this should be viewed as a complete reboot because it is. You will have to grab names for your characters as you create them.
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Re: FACTS - HMW2 Thread

Postby Redimus » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:14 am

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Great news.

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Intersting. I actully quite like the idea of earning extra charecters.
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Re: FACTS - HMW2 Thread

Postby Editor » Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:21 am

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Blocking core names is something I am glad to hear, and setting up battles with known bots sounds sweet.

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Re: FACTS - HMW2 Thread

Postby Chaoslock » Fri Jan 30, 2009 11:14 am

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Fearless Echoes wrote:[color=red]I know this is gonna prove unpopuler, but I think there should be a lock put upon using the bigger canon names (Megatron, Gavlatron, Soundwave, Hotrod and most of the other major G1 charecters).
You read my mind. I am blocking those names because of a "classics battle" function where you can go up against real characters with their real stats.

Fearless Echoes wrote:The really big canon names should be reserved as prize names or NPCs.
They will be NPCs. Again, you read my mind :P


Good to hear. It's a bit odd to see autobot and decepticon commanders players stuffed with canon names (I know, I have a few canon names myself, but it's better than to see them with bios that are simply weird)
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Re: FACTS - HMW2 Thread

Postby Venomous Prime » Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:25 pm

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:-(

Imma miss Starscream and Skyfire

Ah well, I guess I'll just use one of the other characters I've created, might as well enjoy Starscream and Skyfire while I can though :grin:
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Re: FACTS - HMW2 Thread

Postby Symbiote Spiderman14 » Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:46 pm

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original sin wrote::-(

Imma miss Starscream and Skyfire

Ah well, I guess I'll just use one of the other characters I've created, might as well enjoy Starscream and Skyfire while I can though :grin:

Skyfire might be aviailable I think they would use Jetfire as a NPC instead :P
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Re: FACTS - HMW2 Thread

Postby Editor » Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:25 pm

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OS if you don't mind...

If the known TF's are being blocked for use as NPC's in special situations, might we expect other missions against other known characters/groups from beyond the set factions? (EDC, quints, animated S.U.V.) or beyond TF's? (joe/cobra/guardian/renegade/orbots/inhumaniods)
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Re: FACTS - HMW2 Thread

Postby Venomous Prime » Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:56 pm

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Symbiote Spiderman14 wrote:
original sin wrote::-(

Imma miss Starscream and Skyfire

Ah well, I guess I'll just use one of the other characters I've created, might as well enjoy Starscream and Skyfire while I can though :grin:

Skyfire might be aviailable I think they would use Jetfire as a NPC instead :P


On one hand I like that logic, on the other I want to kill you with fire :P
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Postby Redimus » Fri Jan 30, 2009 8:42 pm

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Re: FACTS - HMW2 Thread

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Re: FACTS - HMW2 Thread

Postby Psychout » Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:11 am

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Fearless Echoes wrote:I know this is gonna prove unpopuler, but I think there should be a lock put upon using the bigger canon names (Megatron, Gavlatron, Soundwave, Hotrod and most of the other major G1 charecters).
You read my mind. I am blocking those names because of a "classics battle" function where you can go up against real characters with their real stats.

Fearless Echoes wrote:
The really big canon names should be reserved as prize names or NPCs.
They will be NPCs. Again, you read my mind :P

Awesome, that'll bring some originality back to this game.

OS, can we please also ditch the suffix 'Prime'? Its supposed to be the ultimate title for the supreme leader of the Autobots, not added onto to every knockoff that wants to sound bigger then they are.
Let the wannabes earn it with their faction points instead...
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Re: FACTS - HMW2 Thread

Postby Evolution Prime » Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:12 am

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Psychout wrote:
Omega Sentinel wrote:
Fearless Echoes wrote:I know this is gonna prove unpopuler, but I think there should be a lock put upon using the bigger canon names (Megatron, Gavlatron, Soundwave, Hotrod and most of the other major G1 charecters).
You read my mind. I am blocking those names because of a "classics battle" function where you can go up against real characters with their real stats.

Fearless Echoes wrote:
The really big canon names should be reserved as prize names or NPCs.
They will be NPCs. Again, you read my mind :P

Awesome, that'll bring some originality back to this game.

OS, can we please also ditch the suffix 'Prime'? Its supposed to be the ultimate title for the supreme leader of the Autobots, not added onto to every knockoff that wants to sound bigger then they are.
Let the wannabes earn it with their faction points instead...


I am going to have to beg to differ with you on that one. :P
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Re: FACTS - HMW2 Thread

Postby The Chronic » Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:26 am

Wowzers! 218 Primes is a bit much

I think there should only be one prime and you should have to earn it, but with great responsiblity comes great power, your prize could be the matrix which give you a power boost or do some other stuff

eather way 218 primes is two much!

How about a Prime Hunt?
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Re: FACTS - HMW2 Thread

Postby Evolution Prime » Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:43 am

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I do have to agree that it is a bit much. I have just had mine forever. The thing is that you don't want to start limiting too much. Start blocking Prime in names, then you will have to start blocking ones like Optimus, Galvatron, Magnus, etc. You want to limit some things but don't go overboard on it.

I do like the idea of blocking canon names. However, I do think they should only be limited to major character names (i.e. the ones from the toys, cartoons, or movies). The lesser known ones should still be allowed to be taken.
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Re: FACTS - HMW2 Thread

Postby The Chronic » Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:58 am

I would feel bad about taking Prime away from you but so would a bunch of other perople making a great in contest amongst the Autobots

at the very least Prime should be limeted to one per team

also it would be good if once a player reach a certain level they could recruit other cannon charicters with only the least know names up for grabs
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Postby Venomous Prime » Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:59 am

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Don't block Primes :-(
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Re: FACTS - HMW2 Thread

Postby Editor » Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:09 pm

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Make Prime a key for the 'bots and Maxies.
Make an Emperor of Distruction key for the 'cons and Preds.

One one key allowed per team, only usable of characters that are the clear leader of a players team, and have attained a significant level of XP (or other V2 stats)

Thus it may not be the traditional usage for the title, but it would be in line with the animated usage where Prime seems to equal squad leader.
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Re: FACTS - HMW2 Thread

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Im not saying that there can be only 1 Prime although there should but at the very least the title Prime should be earned before a character is allowed to use it. Character titles should be awarded instead of assumed.

At least then the title is worth something, now all it stands for is 'imagination failure'.
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Re: FACTS - HMW2 Thread

Postby Deephaze » Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:20 pm

I'd say block any and all "new" major canon names but allow existing players to bring over 1 per team if they used it in HMW1.

The easiest way I could see of doing this is initially blocking all canon names and overused roots/suffixes out of HMW2.0 and having individual players PM the mods to have their 1 canon name from HMW1 carried over to HMW2.

RoS could carry over Ultra Magnus if he wanted and Galvatron Supreme could carry over one of his canon names but not take the whole list. That way if there was one particular canon name you've had in HWM1 (either pre-post reset) that you were generally associated with you could carry it over while still allowing for some canon names to saved for the Mods to use as NPCs.
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Re: FACTS - HMW2 Thread

Postby Venomous Prime » Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:33 pm

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Psychout wrote:Im not saying that there can be only 1 Prime although there should but at the very least the title Prime should be earned before a character is allowed to use it. Character titles should be awarded instead of assumed.

At least then the title is worth something, now all it stands for is 'imagination failure'.


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