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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:54 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Has anyone mentioned how Liokaiser's components are called Destron?
I recall that being discussed during the SDCC coverage, yes.

william-james88 wrote:Pretty interesting from hasbro especially since these were japan only characters/toys. meaning that they were indeed only ever Destron ;)
Can't call them the "Breastforce" in Hasbro's markets, I guess.


Ever more interesting is that "Destron" is used and not "Destrons". Japanese has no separate form for plural, so "Destron" is both singular and plural, depending on syntax.
Now that we have a closer look at the packaging, we can see that it says (in English) "6 DESTRON Figures", which is grammatically correct for English rather than trying to using the Japanese singular/plural neutrality (which, if it had been the case, would have sounded rather weaboo-ish to me).


I knew you'd bring that point up. So, I'll raise you this:

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Funnily enough, the other four sets don't have any team name on there:

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Logan. » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:27 am

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SillySpringer wrote:I have another request:

Can someone take a picture or two of Combiner Wars Ironhide with Gen T30 Chromia?


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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:18 am

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
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william-james88 wrote:Has anyone mentioned how Liokaiser's components are called Destron?
I recall that being discussed during the SDCC coverage, yes.

william-james88 wrote:Pretty interesting from hasbro especially since these were japan only characters/toys. meaning that they were indeed only ever Destron ;)
Can't call them the "Breastforce" in Hasbro's markets, I guess.


Ever more interesting is that "Destron" is used and not "Destrons". Japanese has no separate form for plural, so "Destron" is both singular and plural, depending on syntax.
Now that we have a closer look at the packaging, we can see that it says (in English) "6 DESTRON Figures", which is grammatically correct for English rather than trying to using the Japanese singular/plural neutrality (which, if it had been the case, would have sounded rather weaboo-ish to me).


I knew you'd bring that point up. So, I'll raise you this:
To be fair, the phrasing of "6 TECHNOBOTS Figures" technically (no pun intended) isn't incorrect English. It's like how we say "I have lots of Transformers figures" instead of "I have lots of Transformer figures". Some proper nouns can get away with using the plural form in a singular manner like that. Frankly, I think the use of "6 Destron figures" does sound better than "6 Destrons figures" and wish the use of "Technobots" had likewise been "Technobot" so as to have avoided its raising this confusion that we're currently discussing. :PEACE:
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:25 am

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I love how great the Torchbearers go with Road Rage and Chromia.

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:32 pm

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby DedicatedGhostArt » Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:03 pm

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SillySpringer wrote:I have another request:

Can someone take a picture or two of Combiner Wars Ironhide with Gen T30 Chromia?


Ironhide, my favorite G1 character and his eternal flame ;)

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Re: Official Transformers Generations / Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Rainmaker » Sun Oct 02, 2016 10:51 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Why is everyone thinking Prime will have his own team? As it stands, he's merely a standalone extra. In fact, it's not hard to believe Motormaster is the actual original, with Prime as the retool, just released first (same thing happened with Alternators Smokescreen en Silverstreak).


True, there's been no indication that OP will have a limb team.

However, I could see them doing an homage to this guy:

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Does anyone remember this post?

It did turn out to be a homage, the only not really fitting is Ironhide (Who is red not orange :P). Was it on purpose though?

Was this already talked about?

EDIT: This was already mentioned in TFWiki and Takara has their official combination of Optimus Maximus to be in the exact same spots of the Energon Optimus Super Mode

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Mon Oct 03, 2016 1:08 pm

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FYI that post of mine was made before Optimus Maximus with Battle Core Optimus Prime and its counterpart Convoy Grand Prime were revealed. ;)

I'd say it began as a happy accident with Mirage, being blue and the only suitable analog to Drag Strip. With Breakdown you'd have Sideswipe and Sunstreaker, but Sunstreaker provided the design for the HFG because of his supercharger. "Blue, and yellow... hey, let's look for a white and red/orange guy and make an Energon homage! Fans will dig that!"
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Mon Oct 03, 2016 1:09 pm

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We knew from day one that the Optimus combiner was an homage to superlink prime simply because they share the same combiner chest detail.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Jelze Bunnycat » Mon Oct 03, 2016 1:22 pm

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william-james88 wrote:We knew from day one that the Optimus combiner was an homage to superlink prime simply because they share the same combiner chest detail.


But at the time we didn't know how far the homage would stretch: just as a torso or would he have his own adequately-colored limbs? Thankfully, it was the latter case. :)
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Mon Oct 03, 2016 1:23 pm

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby RAR » Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:56 am

Alpha Bravo has always seemed to me to be dead similar to the Helicopter Drone.

To extend the idea to Grand Scourge though - I have been thinking about the Powercore Combiner line ; specifically : http://www.tfu.info/2010/Decepticon/Cra ... nkcase.htm

That toy has An Attack Helicopter, Attack SUV, Armoured Half-track & a Missile Tank as it's limbs.

So perhaps there is some potential there in character to make limbs

There is also some potential to "borrow" missing characters from Leo Kaiser
a Black Swindle Repaint specifically.

I guess some artistic license could be applied too.

Another idea I had is to make a variation of the Combaticons (as he looks great wearing the Combaticons) but instead they'd be a updated version of the Decepticon Micromaster Military Patrol (only no longer as Micromasters).

That would be the moulds for Rook, Vortex (or one of Vicky's copters), Swindle & Brawl.

The only downside to that is that colour wise they'd be really similar to the combaticons.

So perhaps the best idea is to look for Random Decepticons who fit the moulds and hopefully any of the colours used for Crankcase or Scourge's Limbs usually.

The colours in use typically for that sort of thing would be :
Dark Purple, Teal, Dark Silver/(Gun metal), & Black. But I guess fuchsia pink would work too.

I guess some of Botcon's characters would work quite well too. I can see Spinister & Needlenose working quite well for example.

Another idea might be to try the G2 Stunticons - as they'd look really similar to the Decepticon Micromaster Sports car Patrol.

This is one of the reasons I'd like some random Decepticons in some Vs Packs just to fill the ranks out a bit.

As I implied earlier though I'd welcome Scourge getting Leo Kaiser's left over characters too.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:34 pm

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Remember that 129$ figure I said, it was probably with tax. because a picutre surfaced of what was written as a recent show regarding availability. its those little cardboards under the figures that show who is getting the exclusive.

Anyways, the cardboard has the price at $109.99 and a release date of November 1st. Which all makes sense. That means those CW boxes did last all year with at least one per quarter.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby RAR » Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:23 pm

I just got Wreck Gar (Combiner Wars Legends Class) He is great and I am most pleased to have him.

But as soon as I opened the toy - I realised - Holy Jack O'Neill (with 2 l's) does this look Afterburner - especially after I was raiding my Legion class and Minicons for things to sit on him and it reminded me even more of the Transformers club version of Afterburner.

So then my next thought was - if he was Afterburner and The Groove Dlx Mould didn't exist - what would the Alpha Bravo / Rook / Off Road like be like as a "NEW" Team member for the Technobots with Wreck Gar as Afterburner ?

Any ideas / preferences ?

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I really like the extra team member idea especially some 3rd party or home modeller ever figures out an adaptor piece to turn any CW deluxe into a Seacon style Targetmaster as well.

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Oh and if anyone in the UK is looking for a Wreck Gar still I found him in a Toymaster store.

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Speaking of Combiner Wars legends - am I crazy or is there some legends that have Cards and some that don't ?

Did they do that to compensate for the lack of combination being advertised.

Wreck Gar has one as does Pipes & Buzzsaw - but Groove doesn't.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:27 pm

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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:28 pm

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RAR wrote:
Wreck Gar has one as does Pipes & Buzzsaw - but Groove doesn't.

Do you have a picture of the packaging? I cant find any version ever sold that didnt include a card.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:31 pm

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All Legends, & Voyager, and Combiner Box sets came with collector cards (don't know about leader since I don't have any)...But deluxes are a bit weird. Some assortments came with Cards, others came with comics.
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Postby Kurona » Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:37 pm

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o.supreme wrote:All Legends, & Voyager, and Combiner Box sets came with collector cards (don't know about leader since I don't have any)...But deluxes are a bit weird. Some assortments came with Cards, others came with comics.

In the US Deluxes came with comics, in the UK they came with Collector's Cards.
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby o.supreme » Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:29 pm

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Kurona wrote:In the US Deluxes came with comics, in the UK they came with Collector's Cards.


Interesting. I got my Protectabots used from a seller in Canada, they all came with cards as well...
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby Cobotron » Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:33 pm

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Here. Fixed it. ;)
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Re: Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Discussion Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:41 pm

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Kurona wrote:In the US Deluxes came with comics, in the UK everywhere else they came with Collector's Cards.
Here. Fixed it. ;)

They come with comics in Hong Kong

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EDIT: Even worse, Taiwan was the only place that got the Alpha Bravo & co comics which even the US didnt get.
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Transformers Podcast: Twincast / Podcast #350 - Oops! All Optimus
Twincast / Podcast #350:
"Oops! All Optimus"
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Posted: Saturday, May 18th, 2024

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