The Energon Pub

[william-james88]

when you look at it, it can be kinda funny. Swerve and Tailgate were redecoes, yet when they got new toys, it was the likes of Gears and Windcharger that are now the redecoes

HAHA! Yeah, I really love that and find it funny too. Since I didnt know G1 as well then, it was Cobotron who let me in on this fun bit of irony.

Oh and I guess this is the right thread to say this so: while it makes total and perfect business sense to have Chop Shop be a redeco of Skrapnel (with a killer head by the way), that kind of takes away alot from a toy that was called a Deluxe Insecticon.

[Burn]

Not sure why people hate on Alpha Bravo so much.

It's not like you're being forced to buy him.

And so he's a new character, but the mold was clearly intended to be Vortex. ummm and why's this a problem? Datsun brothers ... Seeker jets ... that's how it's always been in Transformers, yet no one seems to bitch about the Datsuns and Seekers.

[Hellscream9999]

Got my Cyclonus today. I have to say: He is an amazing figure. Yes, he is a Silverbolt skeleton, but they made it work so well! I love the guy!

His jet mode looks amazing. It works so well for me. And he is a beautiful shade of purple. Me likes a lot.

He makes a great addition to the Lost Light crew. He looks and feels just so good. And he feels a good size to me too. I feel that deluxe version (which I never got) just looks too gappy and small, so this guy tickles my fancy perfectly.

I highly recommend this guy. /

I agree whole-heartedly, it's an incredible figure, the jet mode may have kibble, but I think it just make the vehicle mode look that much more powerful (just tell yourself it's an enormous engine ) The best part is the combined mode, by virtue of not being a top-heavy disappointment like Menasor, and by looking amazing, and giving my stunticons a new home. As much as I rally against the figure's overuse, I wouldn't mind a RETOOLED A/B in galvatron's arm colors, packing his arm-cannon for the combined arm mode. That, I think, would be the best thing I could imagine

[Cobotron]

Got my Cyclonus today. I have to say: He is an amazing figure. Yes, he is a Silverbolt skeleton, but they made it work so well! I love the guy!

His jet mode looks amazing. It works so well for me. And he is a beautiful shade of purple. Me likes a lot.

He makes a great addition to the Lost Light crew. He looks and feels just so good. And he feels a good size to me too. I feel that deluxe version (which I never got) just looks too gappy and small, so this guy tickles my fancy perfectly.

I highly recommend this guy. /

I agree whole-heartedly, it's an incredible figure, the jet mode may have kibble, but I think it just make the vehicle mode look that much more powerful (just tell yourself it's an enormous engine ) The best part is the combined mode, by virtue of not being a top-heavy disappointment like Menasor, and by looking amazing, and giving my stunticons a new home. As much as I rally against the figure's overuse, I wouldn't mind a RETOOLED A/B in galvatron's arm colors, packing his arm-cannon for the combined arm mode. That, I think, would be the best thing I could imagine

I think Cyclonus/Galvatronus and Off Road are the surprise winners of the line thus far. Maybe because they are pure imagination/head cannon fodder, and they are killer toys.
Still chomping at the bit to scoop up Rook. I have a feeling he'll be on my list too.

[Hellscream9999]

Got my Cyclonus today. I have to say: He is an amazing figure. Yes, he is a Silverbolt skeleton, but they made it work so well! I love the guy!

His jet mode looks amazing. It works so well for me. And he is a beautiful shade of purple. Me likes a lot.

He makes a great addition to the Lost Light crew. He looks and feels just so good. And he feels a good size to me too. I feel that deluxe version (which I never got) just looks too gappy and small, so this guy tickles my fancy perfectly.

I highly recommend this guy. /

I agree whole-heartedly, it's an incredible figure, the jet mode may have kibble, but I think it just make the vehicle mode look that much more powerful (just tell yourself it's an enormous engine ) The best part is the combined mode, by virtue of not being a top-heavy disappointment like Menasor, and by looking amazing, and giving my stunticons a new home. As much as I rally against the figure's overuse, I wouldn't mind a RETOOLED A/B in galvatron's arm colors, packing his arm-cannon for the combined arm mode. That, I think, would be the best thing I could imagine

I think Cyclonus/Galvatronus and Off Road are the surprise winners of the line thus far. Maybe because they are pure imagination/head cannon fodder, and they are killer toys.
Still chomping at the bit to scoop up Rook. I have a feeling he'll be on my list too.

Definitely; I've been here for all 350+ pages of this thread, and I still remember the whole creepy axe murdering psycho head cannon evolution of the toy; that was a good time to be on this thread

Rook is already shaping up to be my favorite, if only because he's a new mold, and looks awesome; though I can't say no to a triple-barrelled shotgun

[no-one]

I've been happy with all the new guys so far. I've made AB out to be a lone wolf commando coming in for the kill. Offroad is just really cool. Great head sculpt and a handsome color scheme to boot. Rook is just pure brawler and has some fantastic ankle tilts that I wasn't expecting.

Looking forward to Swindle/Hound remold/redeco of Rook and the new Brawn mold. Combiner Wars just keeps getting better and better. I plan on picking up a few of the Autobots that are sorely missing from my collection as well.

Still on the fence about that Cyclonus. I'll wait to see him in person, before I make up my mind.

[Hellscream9999]

I've been happy with all the new guys so far. I've made AB out to be a lone wolf commando coming in for the kill. Offroad is just really cool. Great head sculpt and a handsome color scheme to boot. Rook is just pure brawler and has some fantastic ankle tilts that I wasn't expecting.

Looking forward to Swindle/Hound remold/redeco of Rook and the new Brawn mold. Combiner Wars just keeps getting better and better. I plan on picking up a few of the Autobots that are sorely missing from my collection as well.

Still on the fence about that Cyclonus. I'll wait to see him in person, before I make up my mind.

Honestly, I say go for it. If you have the limbs to spare, it's the superion in all it's engineering glory (except now in a sexy decepti-purple) the robot mode is great in all the ways silverbolt was (just b/c his name is cyclonus doesn't mean you have to use him as such) and the vehicle mode is great to display. People whine about the underside but if its on a desk and you look down on it from a chair, you wouldn't know it had a lot of kibble under there, the wings are so large. Galvatronus has a great head sculpt, he looks great with the dragstrip and offroad as sleek legs and deadend and brakeneck as big bulky arms, give him menasors beat-stick and off you go with the best combiner EVAR

[ZeroWolf]

I always felt it was a missed opportunity that they never gave cyclonus his rune sword from the comics though I would love a comic accurate toyline akin to marvel legends at one point.

I know that the comics either adapt the character model to the current generations toy or their previous one, but there's always characters that don't have that advantage ala Nautica and Rung

[Cobotron]

I still remember the whole creepy axe murdering psycho head cannon evolution of the toy; that was a good time to be on this thread

That WAS you. That was a good time.

Still on the fence about that Cyclonus. I'll wait to see him in person, before I make up my mind.

with your imagination, I don't think you would be sorry. Pretty much everything Hellscream just said, plus some other stuff I would say.

[william-james88]

I still remember the whole creepy axe murdering psycho head cannon evolution of the toy; that was a good time to be on this thread

That WAS you. That was a good time.

Naw it was Va'al, projecting his tormented psyche on Alpha Bravo, just like Hannibal did to Will Graham.

[shajaki]

Not sure why people hate on Alpha Bravo so much.

It's not like you're being forced to buy him.

And so he's a new character, but the mold was clearly intended to be Vortex. ummm and why's this a problem? Datsun brothers ... Seeker jets ... that's how it's always been in Transformers, yet no one seems to **** about the Datsuns and Seekers.

That's my reasoning for the Autobot combiners.
So much hate, but the option to NOT BUY them is right there. C/G figures are still out there, so buy those if that's what you truly want. The majority of C/G figures don't need updates anyways IMO.

I for one am psyched for the new teams. Bring on as many retools/reshells/repaints as you want HasTak

[peaces]

the fact that every single cw toy has been sold in my area tells me most people feel the same way shajaki. again, it's a loud obnoxious minority that keep crying every 5 seconds about combiner wars. meanwhile, rid shelf warms along with aoe and rat traps.

[Hellscream9999]

I still remember the whole creepy axe murdering psycho head cannon evolution of the toy; that was a good time to be on this thread

That WAS you. That was a good time.

Naw it was Va'al, projecting his tormented psyche on Alpha Bravo, just like Hannibal did to Will Graham.

That was my fault, meant to say reading the thread posts, and I believe it was Offroad getting that treatment, because of his bio + the ax + the face

[Hellscream9999]

the fact that every single cw toy has been sold in my area tells me most people feel the same way shajaki. again, it's a loud obnoxious minority that keep crying every 5 seconds about combiner wars. meanwhile, rid shelf warms along with aoe and rat traps.

Not necessarily, it just means that they aren't being restocked. unless you have seen stock ebb and flow, I would say that it is the store not restocking b/c they still have the movie 1 step trash (I say this b/c it has been more than a year, and it is still shelf warming) and rid stuff that people don't want as much, but they move through it well enough.

I know wal mart treats all transformers stock as one entity (they do not discern between generation and RID, etc.) and will only ask for restock if the total stock goes below 50%; what this means (for me at least) is that so long as the 1 step style stuff warms shelves, I will never see even wave 1 at retail

[no-one]

Some really nice and convincing stuff about CW Cyclonus

Gave Cyclonus the old Cobs endorsement

I'm pretty sure he will be buy on sight. Pretty much everyone has said nothing but awesome stuff about him. He looks nice and slick and that shade of purple is sick. My only reservation is that I want him to be more IDW-ish.

Doesn't get all the hate.

Me neither brothers, me neither. People seem to act as if a toys existence is a personal affront. It's not like stepping on a Transformer is like stepping on Legos.

[Hellscream9999]

Some really nice and convincing stuff about CW Cyclonus

Gave Cyclonus the old Cobs endorsement

I'm pretty sure he will be buy on sight. Pretty much everyone has said nothing but awesome stuff about him. He looks nice and slick and that shade of purple is sick. My only reservation is that I want him to be more IDW-ish.

Hah ha I see what you did there

I do agree about wanting an IDW Cyclonus; dude is badass - dat face tho and that they use similar art on the card, it only makes me want him more; but trust me, you won't regret getting Cyclonus

[Burn]

I for one am psyched for the new teams. Bring on as many retools/reshells/repaints as you want HasTak

Within reason. I'm not a fan of taking existing characters that weren't combiners and making them combiners.

To sum up Combiner Wars ...


(Unless you're a Decepticon)

[shajaki]

(Unless you're a Decepticon)

*sigh*
I actually had that thought. Oooh I can't wait for a Decepticon combiner with Megatron, Starscr.... oh wait... damn Leader class

[Sowndwave76]

What I think is too bad is that the new deluxe Autobot molds aren't any better than what we were given from the Classics, Universe, Generations, and RtS lines.

Just my opinion, but I really really can't see anyone saying these new figures are BETTER than past releases.
Even if you're going to try and say they're not worse for whatever reason,
it would be impossible for me to be convinced they're better.

For me, the version of Prowl (and Silverstreak, and Smokescreen) I have isn't ruined because he can't become a combiner arm or leg.
He has the door "wings", shoulder cannons, and an overall more accurate G1 appearance.
Even the alt mode is closer to the G1 version.
And yet, the Universe version is still an updated, improved figure from the original.

I know a ton of people hate the Universe Ironhide, and yes, there was a major issue with that mold.
But the alt mode is awesome.
And the bot mode really captured, the tough, bulky, solid character that I have always associated with Ironhide's character.

Someone already said it, but it's almost too bad that these Autobots have potentially taken space from other characters that haven't had their due "update" for literally decades.

[fenrir72]

Not sure why people hate on Alpha Bravo so much.

It's not like you're being forced to buy him.

And so he's a new character, but the mold was clearly intended to be Vortex. ummm and why's this a problem? Datsun brothers ... Seeker jets ... that's how it's always been in Transformers, yet no one seems to **** about the Datsuns and Seekers.

That's my reasoning for the Autobot combiners.
So much hate, but the option to NOT BUY them is right there. C/G figures are still out there, so buy those if that's what you truly want. The majority of C/G figures don't need updates anyways IMO.

I for one am psyched for the new teams. Bring on as many retools/reshells/repaints as you want HasTak

Hating A/B is just from people who have too much free time in their hands. Seeing shadows where there aren't. The option is always...DON'T BUY HIM.

AS for the Oprah quote by Burn, reminds me of the end lyrics of Masterforce............."you can be a Transformer....."or something like that.

[ZeroWolf]

A quick thought though, would the characters actually sell though (the ones that need an update that is). Hasbro need to print money and kids are only going to care about characters they know. Unless of course the designers are given free reign.

[Hellscream9999]

A quick thought though, would the characters actually sell though (the ones that need an update that is). Hasbro need to print money and kids are only going to care about characters they know. Unless of course the designers are given free reign.

Honestly, as a kid growing up in the era of Beast Wars, I either identified with characters through some version of fiction (the show) or they looked awesome in package. I can totally see kids not wanting a bunch of boring car-formers (thinking back on the generations prowl and company) when they could have awesome figures that they think look cool, or relate to via a fiction.

The part about having a fiction is important, if you relate to a character, or care about a character, you would most likely want a toy representation of them. Otherwise you would probably want a cool character (any of the deceti-animals from rid2015) I, myself, was stoked when I saw the designs for Thunderhoof, and eagerly await his release, even though I've never seen the show. It's precisely because it scratches that itch - that transformers can yield the coolest looking action figures ever - that it irritated me when I saw a bunch of shelf-warming datsun updates years ago.

This is the reason why I think the Unicron trilogy did as well as it did, the shows were kinda crap, but the toys themselves, for any and all of their failings, looked awesome in (usually) both modes, and I saw definite patterns of this, where the boring scout class guy with a telescope thing for an arm from energon warmed shelves forever, but the cool beast-forming decepticons flew off shelves.

[Sowndwave76]

A quick thought though, would the characters actually sell though (the ones that need an update that is). Hasbro need to print money and kids are only going to care about characters they know. Unless of course the designers are given free reign.

They actually might just as well as the characters that adult collectors know so well.
My 9 yr old decided he wanted the RiD Drift figure.
He knows very little about G1, and nothing about the original Drift character.
He liked the way the car looks, and that it's orange.

I think he would absolutely love any of the Predacons as much as Prowl, Wheeljack, Sunstreaker, etc.

[Burn]

A quick thought though, would the characters actually sell though (the ones that need an update that is). Hasbro need to print money and kids are only going to care about characters they know. Unless of course the designers are given free reign.

Kids aren't going to care about "Sky Reign". Very few will know those characters, moreso in their G1 incarnations.

[Hellscream9999]

A quick thought though, would the characters actually sell though (the ones that need an update that is). Hasbro need to print money and kids are only going to care about characters they know. Unless of course the designers are given free reign.

Kids aren't going to care about "Sky Reign". Very few will know those characters, moreso in their G1 incarnations.

Yeah, but Sky Lynx LOOKS awesome, more often than not that's the most important thing to a kid