Blozor wrote:I don't look at Michael Bay not directing Transformers 2 as being a bad thing. There are many a competent director who could fill his shoes and possibly give us the Transformers movie we were hoping for. I mean, a lot of the fans enjoyed the movie, but many of even the fans who enjoyed it wanted something more from it, and quite frankly, Bay didn't deliver.
Reviewers said that it was quite good for a giant toy commercial based on an Eighties cartoon. I didn't want the entire fandom looked upon by outsiders as a bunch of toy nerds loyal to an Eighties cartoon, which is exactly what the movie made us look like. I wanted people to be able to watch it and say, "Wow, so that's what the appeal is!" not "Well, that's what I expected it to be."
I wanted this to be the definitive movie, like Spider-Man or Batman Begins, and instead Michael Bay gave us Armageddon, Independence Day, and Godzilla. Nothing but big successes that would be forgotten about and possibly even ridiculed not five years from now.
EDIT: Also, could it just be that Paramount is just waiting to see if Blue Ray catches on before they spend the money to release it in that format? Maybe they don't want to jump on it like everyone did for Laserdisc. The equipment is still pricey, so maybe they are just holding off until it's more affordable and more popular before investing in releasing the movie in the format.
Point is, we'll get our Blue Ray, it'll just be once the format becomes more accessible.
waaaaghlord wrote:I think that this is my first post in the movie forum, if not it's certainly my first in a long while. I don't generally like to get involved in a rolling debate where there are such diametricly opposed possitions and nobody is willing to change their points of view and this is how I tend to think of most fan debate over the movie.
Personally I didn't like the film. The novelization was actually better, making the best out of a poor story, but not by a lot. I have yet to see a Bay film that was actually worth my time. Now these are just my opinions and I'm not trying to get a rise out of anyone.
If Bay doesn't come back for TF2, and it is still very much 'if' at this point, my take would be that we would be more likely to get what I would consider a decent film.
Briefly what I would like to see:
Bryan Singer directing, he has a proven track record turning 'kids' franchises into intelligent and watchable movies.
Simon Furman script consulting, yes that's right not writing. He knows his stuff and a lot of his TF work over the years has had a cinematic feel but it probably wouldn't work for the majority of non hardcore fans that will make up the audience. Straczynski on the writing team would be a real treat for me personally but this would never happen anyway so I'm only adding it as an aside.
Don in an art supervisor role. Who wouldn't want this really?
A back to basics approach to the story that has our beloved robots fighting over energy and resources. This would provide a real reason to be on Earth rather than the convoluted script point of the Allspark and allow for mature and intelligent storytelling that is relevant to our own current geopolitical situation. Intelligent action movies are possible, despite their scarcity.
Xion wrote:Thank god that Micheal Gay won't directed the second movie. And I don't think that Paramount wouldn't be so stupid not bring a second movie out.
lodelco wrote:Xion wrote:Thank god that Micheal Gay won't directed the second movie. And I don't think that Paramount wouldn't be so stupid not bring a second movie out.
Paramount's being a cheap like this though. They didn't even include the score in the official album.
Ugh. All of this is making my head ache.
Blozor wrote:I don't look at Michael Bay not directing Transformers 2 as being a bad thing. There are many a competent director who could fill his shoes and possibly give us the Transformers movie we were hoping for. I mean, a lot of the fans enjoyed the movie, but many of even the fans who enjoyed it wanted something more from it, and quite frankly, Bay didn't deliver.
Reviewers said that it was quite good for a giant toy commercial based on an Eighties cartoon. I didn't want the entire fandom looked upon by outsiders as a bunch of toy nerds loyal to an Eighties cartoon, which is exactly what the movie made us look like. I wanted people to be able to watch it and say, "Wow, so that's what the appeal is!" not "Well, that's what I expected it to be."
I wanted this to be the definitive movie, like Spider-Man or Batman Begins, and instead Michael Bay gave us Armageddon, Independence Day, and Godzilla. Nothing but big successes that would be forgotten about and possibly even ridiculed not five years from now.
EDIT: Also, could it just be that Paramount is just waiting to see if Blue Ray catches on before they spend the money to release it in that format? Maybe they don't want to jump on it like everyone did for Laserdisc. The equipment is still pricey, so maybe they are just holding off until it's more affordable and more popular before investing in releasing the movie in the format.
Point is, we'll get our Blue Ray, it'll just be once the format becomes more accessible.
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