All 3 New Leader Class Toys in Legacy will be Rereleased in 2023
Monday, June 27th, 2022 1:27AM CDT
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The good news is that if ever any leader class toys has been hard to find or if TM2 Megatron turns out to be hard to find, then there will be another chance to get them in 2023.
Here are those listings:
Tra Gen Legacy Ev LDR Metal Megs PR
Product Number: F7216
EAN: 5010994207823
Tra Gen legacy Ev LDR Laser Op Pr
Product Number: F7215
EAN: 5010994207830
Tra Gen Legacy Ev LDR Blitzwing Pr
Product Number: F7230
EAN: 5010994207571
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Posted by Emerje on June 27th, 2022 @ 1:33am CDT
o.supreme wrote:Leader-1 didn't come with CW Armada Megatron, kind of doubt it will come with this one. Also I wouldn't put it past Hasbro that this "New" Armada Megatron for 2023 isn't just a slight variant of the CW one. SS86 Arcee from T30 set a precedent.
They don't make Leaders that big anymore so I wouldn't worry about that. He'll be a tall Voyager with add on parts (based on Tidal Wave?) or be bulked out like Galvatron (big ol' shoulder treads). He has two easy built in repaints (Galvatron and Megazarak) so he doesn't really need to share anything with anyone else, though I do wonder how people feel about him being used to make an interpretation of IDW Fort Max?
It also occurs to me that Legacy Leader-1 and Drill Bit could share tooling if they choose to make them, might improve their chances of being made.
Emerje
Posted by Nemesis Primal on June 27th, 2022 @ 2:50am CDT
...except Armada Megatron and Prime Skyquake from barely 2 days ago.william-james88 wrote:That doesn't mean there won't be new leader class toys in the line, there just haven't been any other listings found for leader class toys in 2023's Legacy line aside from those at the moment.
Oh my god, the Fort Max I would actually buy? You're a genius.Emerje wrote:though I do wonder how people feel about him being used to make an interpretation of IDW Fort Max?
Posted by william-james88 on June 27th, 2022 @ 7:30am CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:...except Armada Megatron and Prime Skyquake from barely 2 days ago.william-james88 wrote:That doesn't mean there won't be new leader class toys in the line, there just haven't been any other listings found for leader class toys in 2023's Legacy line aside from those at the moment.Oh my god, the Fort Max I would actually buy? You're a genius.Emerje wrote:though I do wonder how people feel about him being used to make an interpretation of IDW Fort Max?
Lol, gotta go fix that
Posted by Nemesis Destron on June 28th, 2022 @ 11:51am CDT
So I've waited this long for a good representation of the Stunticons post Combiner Wars I can wait some more....'nuff said!
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 28th, 2022 @ 2:42pm CDT
Considering that Motormaster is commander class, I doubt there will be a box set of the Stunticons.Nemesis Destron wrote:I saw a Dragstrip on the pegs yesterday and I said to myself....I said self what if puts out a impressive box set....? Who's to say this WON'T come to pass....?
So I've waited this long for a good representation of the Stunticons post Combiner Wars I can wait some more....'nuff said!
Posted by Munkky on June 28th, 2022 @ 2:52pm CDT
A) have a go at restoring the one I have by painting over the yellowing parts.
B) swap it out for Legacy Soundwave (has yellwoing plastic ever been reported on the Siege version to anyone's knowledge?)
C) wait to see if the Netflix version becomes available again one day, that new Buzzworthy Bumblebee set with the Volkswageb Beetle mould for Goldbug has renewed my hope for this, as it means Wal-Mart have lost exclusivity for at least one retool and could also lose Soundwave soon.
or D) hang fire and wait to see if Hasbro brings out a new Soundwave without the Netflix version's problems.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 28th, 2022 @ 4:58pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Considering that Motormaster is commander class, I doubt there will be a box set of the Stunticons.Nemesis Destron wrote:I saw a Dragstrip on the pegs yesterday and I said to myself....I said self what if puts out a impressive box set....? Who's to say this WON'T come to pass....?
So I've waited this long for a good representation of the Stunticons post Combiner Wars I can wait some more....'nuff said!
SS69 tell that you're wrong on that one.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 28th, 2022 @ 5:01pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Considering that Motormaster is commander class, I doubt there will be a box set of the Stunticons.Nemesis Destron wrote:I saw a Dragstrip on the pegs yesterday and I said to myself....I said self what if puts out a impressive box set....? Who's to say this WON'T come to pass....?
So I've waited this long for a good representation of the Stunticons post Combiner Wars I can wait some more....'nuff said!
SS69 tell that you're wrong on that one.
It's a 50/50 shot, but with it's potentially high price the venue and production number will be very limited, I can assure you.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 28th, 2022 @ 5:03pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:It's a 50/50 shot, but with it's potentially high price the venue and production number will be very limited, I can assure you.
Oh, no doubts. SS69 was available only at select online stores so a Legacy Stunticons set would be the same for sure.
Posted by Nemesis Destron on June 28th, 2022 @ 6:49pm CDT
and this old boy was not cheap. I wonder what the numbers sold were retail?
Anyway my waiting begins and thanks for that reminder Kanrabat!
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 28th, 2022 @ 7:26pm CDT
Nemesis Destron wrote:The moment I read "high price" this came to mind.....
and this old boy was not cheap. I wonder what the numbers sold were retail?
Anyway my waiting begins and thanks for that reminder Kanrabat!
Speaking of VERY high price...
(CLICK HERE for the rest of the gallery!)
I paid an arm and a leg for this but I'm sure the original price was pretty costly even at the time it originally came out.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 28th, 2022 @ 8:10pm CDT
Nemesis Destron wrote:The moment I read "high price" this came to mind.....
and this old boy was not cheap. I wonder what the numbers sold were retail?
Anyway my waiting begins and thanks for that reminder Kanrabat!
Is that the reissue?
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 28th, 2022 @ 8:10pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 28th, 2022 @ 8:11pm CDT
Yes. Encore logo in the top-left corner.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Nemesis Destron wrote:The moment I read "high price" this came to mind.....
and this old boy was not cheap. I wonder what the numbers sold were retail?
Anyway my waiting begins and thanks for that reminder Kanrabat!
Is that the reissue?
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 28th, 2022 @ 8:50pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Yes. Encore logo in the top-left corner.chuckdawg1999 wrote:Nemesis Destron wrote:The moment I read "high price" this came to mind.....
and this old boy was not cheap. I wonder what the numbers sold were retail?
Anyway my waiting begins and thanks for that reminder Kanrabat!
Is that the reissue?
I canceled my order when the reports of problems came out.
Posted by TulioDude on June 28th, 2022 @ 11:22pm CDT
Day 911 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 28th, 2022 @ 11:52pm CDT
TulioDude wrote:Armada Megatron showing up in Genatations
Day 911 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Heh, you know it!
Posted by Sabrblade on June 29th, 2022 @ 12:00am CDT
As long as they do right by him and not make him something like a green G1 Megatron with just a new head and new shoulder kibble.TulioDude wrote:Armada Megatron showing up in Genatations
Day 911 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.
Posted by Overcracker on June 29th, 2022 @ 8:37am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Great review. Not feeling him at all. I have no attachment to him as a character. Though I do wonder who they are going to retool him into exactly?
Also, for those in the know is not pronounced Gee-axus. or Jai-axus?
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 29th, 2022 @ 8:39am CDT
Overcracker wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Great review. Not feeling him at all. I have no attachment to him as a character. Though I do wonder who they are going to retool him into exactly?
Also, for those in the know is not pronounced Gee-axus. or Jai-axus?
The wiki says Gee-Ax-Us
Posted by Overcracker on June 29th, 2022 @ 8:42am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Overcracker wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Great review. Not feeling him at all. I have no attachment to him as a character. Though I do wonder who they are going to retool him into exactly?
Also, for those in the know is not pronounced Gee-axus. or Jai-axus?
The wiki says Gee-Ax-Us
Thanks.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 29th, 2022 @ 8:51am CDT
Posted by Emerje on June 29th, 2022 @ 9:37am CDT
Overcracker wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Overcracker wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Great review. Not feeling him at all. I have no attachment to him as a character. Though I do wonder who they are going to retool him into exactly?
Also, for those in the know is not pronounced Gee-axus. or Jai-axus?
The wiki says Gee-Ax-Us
Thanks.
Story goes that Furman anticipated the G2 comic not lasting long so he named the main villain of the story after his and the rest of the comic team's eminent firing ("gee, axe us").
Emerje
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on June 29th, 2022 @ 2:03pm CDT
Emerje wrote:Overcracker wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Overcracker wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Great review. Not feeling him at all. I have no attachment to him as a character. Though I do wonder who they are going to retool him into exactly?
Also, for those in the know is not pronounced Gee-axus. or Jai-axus?
The wiki says Gee-Ax-Us
Thanks.
Story goes that Furman anticipated the G2 comic not lasting long so he named the main villain of the story after his and the rest of the comic team's eminent firing ("gee, axe us").
Emerje
Yup, I shared the story in the video.
Posted by Overcracker on June 29th, 2022 @ 3:54pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Emerje wrote:Overcracker wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:Overcracker wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Great review. Not feeling him at all. I have no attachment to him as a character. Though I do wonder who they are going to retool him into exactly?
Also, for those in the know is not pronounced Gee-axus. or Jai-axus?
The wiki says Gee-Ax-Us
Thanks.
Story goes that Furman anticipated the G2 comic not lasting long so he named the main villain of the story after his and the rest of the comic team's eminent firing ("gee, axe us").
Emerje
Yup, I shared the story in the video.
Must have missed then. Whoops
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 29th, 2022 @ 6:06pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on June 29th, 2022 @ 8:04pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Every so often Hasbro will go deep and pull out a character that really hasn't had representation in toy form, in Legacy there giving this treatment to Jhiaxus. Created during the G2 comic era, Jhiaxus has seen representation in toy form, but those were repaints/retools of other characters. This Voyager Class release is the best representation of Jhiaxus from the comics we've seen. Transformation is very intuitive with a few interesting bits, I was quite pleased to see that the figure didn't have a fake cockpit. If you're a fan of the G2 era then Jhiaxus is a must-purchase.
Thundertron wrote:
Posted by Cyber Bishop on June 29th, 2022 @ 9:45pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:Though I do wonder who they are going to retool him into exactly?
I can see Thunderwing in that mold.
Posted by Uncontrolable_myosin on June 29th, 2022 @ 10:23pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 29th, 2022 @ 10:44pm CDT
Cyber Bishop wrote:Overcracker wrote:Though I do wonder who they are going to retool him into exactly?
I can see Thunderwing in that mold.
Hmmmmm..... Maybe. And there's even enough space under that cockpit to add a core class "inner bot". Add two big guns, a small gun for the little bot, and maybe some blast effects and you get "Leader" Thunderwing!
Posted by griftimus prime on June 30th, 2022 @ 6:27am CDT
Posted by partholon on June 30th, 2022 @ 8:05am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Great character, really stupid name.
testement to Furmans talent that even a character he intended to throw away STILL goes on to be a fan favourite.
i cant wait for the fig myself. its weird. the porportions somehow make him "stompy" looking , making him for more brute like than i expected.
but it IS how he was portrayed in the G2 book and that headsculpt is BANG on.extremely impressive as i doubt yaniger EVER intended him to be made into a toy.
getting a judge dredd vibe off him.
bout the only problem i have is the space/hollowness below the cockpit in jet mode that others noted. if he was to be retooled to a leaderclass Thunderwing with add on drone/weapons it'd make sense, though TBH i thought wed get that from a retooled sky shadow from titans retuns.
that lad was BEGGING for that.
Posted by First-Aid on June 30th, 2022 @ 8:52am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Cyber Bishop wrote:Overcracker wrote:Though I do wonder who they are going to retool him into exactly?
I can see Thunderwing in that mold.
Hmmmmm..... Maybe. And there's even enough space under that cockpit to add a core class "inner bot". Add two big guns, a small gun for the little bot, and maybe some blast effects and you get "Leader" Thunderwing!
You think Hasbro can get Prime Skyquake out of this mold?
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 30th, 2022 @ 9:19am CDT
First-Aid wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Cyber Bishop wrote:Overcracker wrote:Though I do wonder who they are going to retool him into exactly?
I can see Thunderwing in that mold.
Hmmmmm..... Maybe. And there's even enough space under that cockpit to add a core class "inner bot". Add two big guns, a small gun for the little bot, and maybe some blast effects and you get "Leader" Thunderwing!
You think Hasbro can get Prime Skyquake out of this mold?
Possibly yes, but the question is, should they.
Posted by Sabrblade on June 30th, 2022 @ 9:46am CDT
Prime Skyquake's already leaked as coming in the Velocitron line, but as a Leader rather than a Voyager, so he'll probably get his own mold.ZeroWolf wrote:First-Aid wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Cyber Bishop wrote:Overcracker wrote:Though I do wonder who they are going to retool him into exactly?
I can see Thunderwing in that mold.
Hmmmmm..... Maybe. And there's even enough space under that cockpit to add a core class "inner bot". Add two big guns, a small gun for the little bot, and maybe some blast effects and you get "Leader" Thunderwing!
You think Hasbro can get Prime Skyquake out of this mold?
Possibly yes, but the question is, should they.
Posted by First-Aid on June 30th, 2022 @ 10:19am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Prime Skyquake's already leaked as coming in the Velocitron line, but as a Leader rather than a Voyager, so he'll probably get his own mold.ZeroWolf wrote:First-Aid wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Cyber Bishop wrote:Overcracker wrote:Though I do wonder who they are going to retool him into exactly?
I can see Thunderwing in that mold.
Hmmmmm..... Maybe. And there's even enough space under that cockpit to add a core class "inner bot". Add two big guns, a small gun for the little bot, and maybe some blast effects and you get "Leader" Thunderwing!
You think Hasbro can get Prime Skyquake out of this mold?
Possibly yes, but the question is, should they.
That's right...I couldn't remember if he was Voyager or leader. That said, most of the Leader classes recently HAVE been essentially voyager sized and the price points increased simply by adding different extra accessories like Blitzwing's giant Energon mitts. I don't know if we can officially rule out that diagnosis yet.
Posted by sol magnus on June 30th, 2022 @ 10:22am CDT
First-Aid wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Prime Skyquake's already leaked as coming in the Velocitron line, but as a Leader rather than a Voyager, so he'll probably get his own mold.ZeroWolf wrote:First-Aid wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Cyber Bishop wrote:Overcracker wrote:Though I do wonder who they are going to retool him into exactly?
I can see Thunderwing in that mold.
Hmmmmm..... Maybe. And there's even enough space under that cockpit to add a core class "inner bot". Add two big guns, a small gun for the little bot, and maybe some blast effects and you get "Leader" Thunderwing!
You think Hasbro can get Prime Skyquake out of this mold?
Possibly yes, but the question is, should they.
That's right...I couldn't remember if he was Voyager or leader. That said, most of the Leader classes recently HAVE been essentially voyager sized and the price points increased simply by adding different extra accessories like Blitzwing's giant Energon mitts. I don't know if we can officially rule out that diagnosis yet.
Why not? What's the precedent of a Voyager being upgraded to a leader without adding something substantial to it? The only I can think of was the Walmart Black Convoy (that I never even saw so never had a chance to buy - A Voyager Siege Optimus with an Earthrise trailer.)
This would be retooling a figure from one class to another, and while we can't say it 'would never' happen, I think we can say it's highly unlikely.
Posted by Sabrblade on June 30th, 2022 @ 10:23am CDT
Blitzwing's a Leader because of his core figure's parts count and complexity. Take away those bonus fist accessories and he's still a Leader. They just threw those in to make him "feel" more worthwhile as a Leader when he really doesn't need them to still be a Leader class.First-Aid wrote:That's right...I couldn't remember if he was Voyager or leader. That said, most of the Leader classes recently HAVE been essentially voyager sized and the price points increased simply by adding different extra accessories like Blitzwing's giant Energon mitts. I don't know if we can officially rule out that diagnosis yet.
Posted by First-Aid on June 30th, 2022 @ 10:40am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Blitzwing's a Leader because of his core figure's parts count and complexity. Take away those bonus fist accessories and he's still a Leader. They just threw those in to make him "feel" more worthwhile as a Leader when he really doesn't need them to still be a Leader class.First-Aid wrote:That's right...I couldn't remember if he was Voyager or leader. That said, most of the Leader classes recently HAVE been essentially voyager sized and the price points increased simply by adding different extra accessories like Blitzwing's giant Energon mitts. I don't know if we can officially rule out that diagnosis yet.
True. I guess what I'm trying to say- poorly, I might add (Damnit, I'm an NP not an English professor!)- is that size doesn't make as much of a difference of class as it used to. Leader Galvatron and Laser Prime are essentially the same size/height as Voyager Scourge and Cyclonus. Yes, it's the parts that make the difference, but this could quickly get made up by adding things like wing flaps, detailed folds in tailfins requiring additional joints, etc. With Jhiaxus, I feel like they can mold a lot of the details into the figure, bringing down overall parts count. Skyquake would need more detailing, I think, meaning a higher parts count and a more complex transformation. It makes no sense for Hasbro to make a mold without at least a second use for it planned (see my previous rants on repaints/Seekers and lack of imagination). Thunderwing? Maybe, but there hasn't been any announcement of that. Based on the announced characters, Skyquake seems the most logical choice. Also, if they successfully pull this off, suddenly Hasbro has expanded their production ability, adding the possibility of converting Voyager figures into Leader class and vice versa. Could result in more of the larger class of figs.
Maybe. Who knows.
Posted by Nemesis Primal on June 30th, 2022 @ 1:56pm CDT
Skyquake's listing is for the mainline, not Velocitron. The Velocitron Leader listing just said "LDR 2".Sabrblade wrote:Prime Skyquake's already leaked as coming in the Velocitron line, but as a Leader rather than a Voyager, so he'll probably get his own mold.
True thus far, but we also only have a single wave for next year leaked currently, as well as not having a guarantee that every exclusive for this year is already known (Amazon has been doing two sets of exclusives in the past years and only announced one so far, for example).First-Aid wrote:It makes no sense for Hasbro to make a mold without at least a second use for it planned (see my previous rants on repaints/Seekers and lack of imagination). Thunderwing? Maybe, but there hasn't been any announcement of that.
Posted by william-james88 on June 30th, 2022 @ 3:43pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:First-Aid wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Cyber Bishop wrote:Overcracker wrote:Though I do wonder who they are going to retool him into exactly?
I can see Thunderwing in that mold.
Hmmmmm..... Maybe. And there's even enough space under that cockpit to add a core class "inner bot". Add two big guns, a small gun for the little bot, and maybe some blast effects and you get "Leader" Thunderwing!
You think Hasbro can get Prime Skyquake out of this mold?
Possibly yes, but the question is, should they.
No, they should not. They don't need to anyways since Skyquake is literally a Seeker mold. He already has a redeco built in of an even more popular character. The only thing I am dreading though is his G1-ification. We saw the reasoning behind Arcee's G1-ification, and Knockout comes from a G1 mold (Bulkhead has Optimus Rumours) but Skyquake's reuse is another Prime character. I really hope he looks closer to his Prime counterpart than any of the other Prime characters.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 30th, 2022 @ 3:53pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:First-Aid wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Cyber Bishop wrote:Overcracker wrote:Though I do wonder who they are going to retool him into exactly?
I can see Thunderwing in that mold.
Hmmmmm..... Maybe. And there's even enough space under that cockpit to add a core class "inner bot". Add two big guns, a small gun for the little bot, and maybe some blast effects and you get "Leader" Thunderwing!
You think Hasbro can get Prime Skyquake out of this mold?
Possibly yes, but the question is, should they.
No, they should not. They don't need to anyways since Skyquake is literally a Seeker mold. He already has a redeco built in of an even more popular character. The only thing I am dreading though is his G1-ification. We saw the reasoning behind Arcee's G1-ification, and Knockout comes from a G1 mold (Bulkhead has Optimus Rumours) but Skyquake's reuse is another Prime character. I really hope he looks closer to his Prime counterpart than any of the other Prime characters.
"G1-ification" isn't really a good name for what's happening to the Prime characters in Legacy IMO. G1, RiD 2001, UT have all been roughly similar in boxy shapes used, but Prime and Animated feature a whole lot more curves in their designs, and comparatively speaking really stand out. Plus curves into blocky altmodes... yeah... Maybe "boxy streamlining?"
Posted by sol magnus on June 30th, 2022 @ 3:58pm CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:First-Aid wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Cyber Bishop wrote:Overcracker wrote:Though I do wonder who they are going to retool him into exactly?
I can see Thunderwing in that mold.
Hmmmmm..... Maybe. And there's even enough space under that cockpit to add a core class "inner bot". Add two big guns, a small gun for the little bot, and maybe some blast effects and you get "Leader" Thunderwing!
You think Hasbro can get Prime Skyquake out of this mold?
Possibly yes, but the question is, should they.
No, they should not. They don't need to anyways since Skyquake is literally a Seeker mold. He already has a redeco built in of an even more popular character. The only thing I am dreading though is his G1-ification. We saw the reasoning behind Arcee's G1-ification, and Knockout comes from a G1 mold (Bulkhead has Optimus Rumours) but Skyquake's reuse is another Prime character. I really hope he looks closer to his Prime counterpart than any of the other Prime characters.
"G1-ification" isn't really a good name for what's happening to the Prime characters in Legacy IMO. G1, RiD 2001, UT have all been roughly similar in boxy shapes used, but Prime and Animated feature a whole lot more curves in their designs, and comparatively speaking really stand out. Plus curves into blocky altmodes... yeah... Maybe "boxy streamlining?"
"Boxy streamlining" doesn't leave any room for the G1 cheap shot.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 30th, 2022 @ 4:04pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:"G1-ification" isn't really a good name for what's happening to the Prime characters in Legacy IMO. G1, RiD 2001, UT have all been roughly similar in boxy shapes used, but Prime and Animated feature a whole lot more curves in their designs, and comparatively speaking really stand out. Plus curves into blocky altmodes... yeah... Maybe "boxy streamlining?"
"Boxy streamlining" doesn't leave any room for the G1 cheap shot.
Exactly!
Posted by Nemesis Primal on June 30th, 2022 @ 4:36pm CDT
I'm curious to see if they're also gonna make a pass at Megaplex with this mold, since we know from interviews that Mark consistently brings up Machine Wars, or if they're going to try to wait for an Energon Starscream mold or something to go more accurate to the original figure.william-james88 wrote:He already has a redeco built in of an even more popular character. The only thing I am dreading though is his G1-ification. We saw the reasoning behind Arcee's G1-ification, and Knockout comes from a G1 mold (Bulkhead has Optimus Rumours) but Skyquake's reuse is another Prime character.
Posted by Rtron on June 30th, 2022 @ 4:41pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:First-Aid wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Cyber Bishop wrote:Overcracker wrote:Though I do wonder who they are going to retool him into exactly?
I can see Thunderwing in that mold.
Hmmmmm..... Maybe. And there's even enough space under that cockpit to add a core class "inner bot". Add two big guns, a small gun for the little bot, and maybe some blast effects and you get "Leader" Thunderwing!
You think Hasbro can get Prime Skyquake out of this mold?
Possibly yes, but the question is, should they.
No, they should not. They don't need to anyways since Skyquake is literally a Seeker mold. He already has a redeco built in of an even more popular character. The only thing I am dreading though is his G1-ification. We saw the reasoning behind Arcee's G1-ification, and Knockout comes from a G1 mold (Bulkhead has Optimus Rumours) but Skyquake's reuse is another Prime character. I really hope he looks closer to his Prime counterpart than any of the other Prime characters.
"G1-ification" isn't really a good name for what's happening to the Prime characters in Legacy IMO. G1, RiD 2001, UT have all been roughly similar in boxy shapes used, but Prime and Animated feature a whole lot more curves in their designs, and comparatively speaking really stand out. Plus curves into blocky altmodes... yeah... Maybe "boxy streamlining?"
"Boxy streamlining" doesn't leave any room for the G1 cheap shot.
It's not a cheap shot, they ARE G1-ifying those designs.
Posted by sol magnus on June 30th, 2022 @ 4:44pm CDT
Rtron wrote:sol magnus wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:william-james88 wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:First-Aid wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:Cyber Bishop wrote:Overcracker wrote:Though I do wonder who they are going to retool him into exactly?
I can see Thunderwing in that mold.
Hmmmmm..... Maybe. And there's even enough space under that cockpit to add a core class "inner bot". Add two big guns, a small gun for the little bot, and maybe some blast effects and you get "Leader" Thunderwing!
You think Hasbro can get Prime Skyquake out of this mold?
Possibly yes, but the question is, should they.
No, they should not. They don't need to anyways since Skyquake is literally a Seeker mold. He already has a redeco built in of an even more popular character. The only thing I am dreading though is his G1-ification. We saw the reasoning behind Arcee's G1-ification, and Knockout comes from a G1 mold (Bulkhead has Optimus Rumours) but Skyquake's reuse is another Prime character. I really hope he looks closer to his Prime counterpart than any of the other Prime characters.
"G1-ification" isn't really a good name for what's happening to the Prime characters in Legacy IMO. G1, RiD 2001, UT have all been roughly similar in boxy shapes used, but Prime and Animated feature a whole lot more curves in their designs, and comparatively speaking really stand out. Plus curves into blocky altmodes... yeah... Maybe "boxy streamlining?"
"Boxy streamlining" doesn't leave any room for the G1 cheap shot.
It's not a cheap shot, they ARE G1-ifying those designs.
The term is being used for a cheap shot. I'm aware they're doing "boxy streamlining."
Posted by Sabrblade on June 30th, 2022 @ 5:24pm CDT
Posted by sol magnus on June 30th, 2022 @ 5:28pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:G1 Arcee is just as curvy as the Prime characters. If they can make her over and over again without any need for any "boxy streamlining", then there is no excuse for how they chose to make the Prime characters the way they did.
I have no reprimand for this comment.
Posted by Sabrblade on June 30th, 2022 @ 5:47pm CDT
No, it pretty much is. In the Pulse video from late last year, Mark Maher said the following about the design aesthetic of the Legacy line:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:"G1-ification" isn't really a good name for what's happening to the Prime characters in Legacy IMO.
"I mean, Transformers, we have such rich history. It's like forty years of just characters from all different, like, universes. I mean, the style and design aesthetics of each universe has its own feel and look. So, you know, early on, John Warden put the seeds in the ground for this and, uh, our design director, Michelino, actually really took the team together and was was like, 'We need something fresh and new for Generations.' So we're taking all of these characters from all of these different continuities, and we're trying to, like, almost like, place them into a universe of their own, which is basically Legacy. And, of course, having, like, a heavy G1 influence because, you know, I love G1, so."