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Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee

Transformers News: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee

Thursday, January 6th, 2022 7:43AM CST

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With no official word from Takaratomy about Masterpiece Cliffjumper, this next story should be taken with a grain of salt.

The Japanese Transformers fan blog Autobase Aichi has reported on news that was originally found on Chinese social media, that of a comparison between the potential Masterpiece Cliffjumper figure, and the figure it shares parts with, MP-45 Bumblebee.

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Transformers News: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee

Transformers News: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee

Transformers News: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee

Transformers News: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee

Transformers News: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee

Transformers News: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee

Transformers News: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee

Transformers News: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee

Transformers News: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee

What do you think of this? Is this the Masterpiece Cliffjumper you wanted?

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Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2124795)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 6th, 2022 @ 8:19am CST
For a line that says "Masterpiece", implying that level of attainment to their design/aesthetic etc. Both can't really be judged as successful in that regard.
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2124799)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 6th, 2022 @ 8:27am CST
Still kibbly with "backpack" cancer, but at least he looks a bit cleaner than Bee.

It's not saying much.
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2124801)
Posted by Immortal Starscream on January 6th, 2022 @ 9:30am CST
to quote a couple cartoon squirrels:
"Now that's comedy"
"SPEEEEEEEEEEEEEW!"
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2124802)
Posted by MeGrimlock78 on January 6th, 2022 @ 9:59am CST
Similar amount of kibble to Origins 'Bee?

If so, THAT'S what Earthrise shoulda looked like...
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2124805)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 6th, 2022 @ 10:30am CST
If I were a fan of either of these characters, I'd be insulted by the effort. Or lack thereof. "Only looks good from the front" shouldn't be the standard for Masterpieces.
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2124808)
Posted by optimeow on January 6th, 2022 @ 10:37am CST
Gappy bots and alt modes aren’t masterpieces.
They aren’t works of art or fine robot toy engineering either.
Who’s with me?
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2124810)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 6th, 2022 @ 10:54am CST
optimeow wrote:Who’s with me?


Everyone.

Especially when the damn thing will retail for 150$+.
This sure ain't a MP Skids/Reboost.
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2124816)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on January 6th, 2022 @ 11:58am CST
For the price I can't say I'm impressed, for about $120 less I have something else that suffices quite well.
Also the fact that the doors become the bottom of the feet is poor engineering as it will most likely cause scuffing when displayed in bot mode. I used to like MP a lot but ever since they basically doubles in price they just aren't worth it anymore versus the standard TF line.
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2124824)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 6th, 2022 @ 12:24pm CST
Till-all-R1 wrote:I used to like MP a lot but ever since they basically doubles in price they just aren't worth it anymore versus the standard TF line.


That is, unless they release more like MP Skids and Reboost who are marvelous and barely cost more than a standard leader class.
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2124825)
Posted by SpaceEagle on January 6th, 2022 @ 12:38pm CST
Sheesh, looks like they really don't know what to do when it comes to smaller bots. MP Skids looks fantastic and deserving of the "Masterpiece" label, but this looks like they just borrowed engineering from close cousin Bumblebee and called it a day. It's...at least...cleaner?
I never really cared for Masterpieces but this seems odd compared to the aftermentioned Skids and Shouki - at least Shouki has combiner tasks so I can excuse THAT kibble.
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2124837)
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 6th, 2022 @ 4:11pm CST
I think both BB and Cliffjumper's design has united both cartoon-accurate and "classic aesthetic" MP fans in their mutual disgust for these figures This is what happens when one thing interferes, and take precedence over the overall aesthetic qualities of an object. In this case, a supposedly and so-called "masterpiece" figure.

Just like with most of the cartoonified MPs, this is an easy pass for me. There are 3P, possible KO versions and even the current "CHUG" figures that are of a standard these days to be considered spiritual successors to the MP line.

Or, in the vernacular, it looks like dogsh*t.
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2125004)
Posted by Big Grim on January 9th, 2022 @ 7:35am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:What do you think of this? Is this the Masterpiece Cliffjumper you wanted?


Short answer, no. This cartoon "accurate" nonsense has to end in my opinion as it's NOT accurate. Bee did't have exploded nonsense for a backpack and feet in the cartoon, itself full of errors.

~ Grim
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2125005)
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 9th, 2022 @ 7:42am CST
Big Grim wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:What do you think of this? Is this the Masterpiece Cliffjumper you wanted?


Short answer, no. This cartoon "accurate" nonsense has to end in my opinion as it's NOT accurate. Bee did't have exploded nonsense for a backpack and feet in the cartoon, itself full of errors.

~ Grim


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Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2125006)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 9th, 2022 @ 7:42am CST
The closest it seems you'll likely get to an "accurate" MP BB, based on HasTak's efforts is this one:

Image

and just buy a separate one of these:

Image

(adding some repro labels)
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2125007)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 9th, 2022 @ 8:15am CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The closest it seems you'll likely get to an "accurate" MP BB, based on HasTak's efforts is this one:

Image

and just buy a separate one of these:

Image

(adding some repro labels)

Probably cheaper as well :lol:
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2125008)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 9th, 2022 @ 8:19am CST
Considering BB (and Cliffjumper, by extension) are icons of the series. The quality of the MP's would really suggest Takara doesn't care that much for him.

I look at Starscream/Thundercracker 2.0 and Skids/Reboost. Effort was made and hard work was put into the designs. I don't get that same impression here.
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2125317)
Posted by Big Grim on January 13th, 2022 @ 5:10pm CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The closest it seems you'll likely get to an "accurate" MP BB, based on HasTak's efforts is this one:

Image

and just buy a separate one of these:

Image

(adding some repro labels)


True enough, though I am fond of the first MP Bumblebee.

~ Grim
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2125332)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 13th, 2022 @ 8:31pm CST
Big Grim wrote:
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:The closest it seems you'll likely get to an "accurate" MP BB, based on HasTak's efforts is this one:

Image

and just buy a separate one of these:

Image

(adding some repro labels)


True enough, though I am fond of the first MP Bumblebee.

~ Grim


That first one was money.
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2125366)
Posted by Big Grim on January 14th, 2022 @ 1:52pm CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Big Grim wrote:True enough, though I am fond of the first MP Bumblebee.

~ Grim


That first one was money.

He really was!

~ Grim
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2125368)
Posted by LunarBolt1984 on January 14th, 2022 @ 2:08pm CST
MP? More like M-Piece of crap
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2125375)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 14th, 2022 @ 4:29pm CST
LunarBolt1984 wrote:MP? More like M-Piece of crap


Much Poo.
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2125410)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 15th, 2022 @ 3:30pm CST
Am I the only one who thinks that this Cliffjumper being a reshelling of Bumblebee v2 is a bit suspect? :-?
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2125420)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 15th, 2022 @ 3:59pm CST
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that this Cliffjumper being a reshelling of Bumblebee v2 is a bit suspect? :-?


Suspect how?

One thing is sure, that's a lazy design. Like applying lipstick to a pig.
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2125422)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 15th, 2022 @ 4:08pm CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that this Cliffjumper being a reshelling of Bumblebee v2 is a bit suspect? :-?


Suspect how?

One thing is sure, that's a lazy design. Like applying lipstick to a pig.


I'd have expected TakaraTomy to make him all-new, while this reshell is more a "3P" approach. Still... :-?
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2125485)
Posted by Emerje on January 16th, 2022 @ 1:00am CST
I'm more concerned(?) about the lack of info from Japan. Seems like we should have gotten an official announcement, Twitter tease, or magazine spread by now. Maybe they know how underwhelmed we all are about it.

Emerje
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2125491)
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 16th, 2022 @ 5:32am CST
Emerje wrote:I'm more concerned(?) about the lack of info from Japan. Seems like we should have gotten an official announcement, Twitter tease, or magazine spread by now. Maybe they know how underwhelmed we all are about it.

Emerje

I've been wondering the same, unless they think MPG Raiden needs all the publicity. Another less plausible theory could be that this prototype is all that's left now and they have scrapped it/started over :-?
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2125492)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on January 16th, 2022 @ 7:34am CST
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that this Cliffjumper being a reshelling of Bumblebee v2 is a bit suspect? :-?


Suspect how?

One thing is sure, that's a lazy design. Like applying lipstick to a pig.


I'd have expected TakaraTomy to make him all-new, while this reshell is more a "3P" approach. Still... :-?


Wait.
What you mean is that it's maybe a Weijiang style toy that is leaked as the "real deal" for the lulz?

Hmmmmmm........... Possibly. :-?
Re: Comparison of Possible Transformers Masterpiece Cliffjumper with MP 45 Bumblebee (2125547)
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 16th, 2022 @ 10:04pm CST
nice looking bot mode although too many panels showing and nice looking vehicle mode
but seems over engineered and overly complicated
they use cartoon accurate vehicle designs for crying out loud they could have simplified the transformation
without the panels hanging out and still have a decent robot mode :-?

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