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Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set

Transformers News: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set

Monday, April 27th, 2015 11:53AM CDT

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BotCon has revealed the 5th and final exclusive figure from this year's BotCon 2015 "Cybertron's Most Wanted" box set. The last figure, Oilmaster "The Bounty Hunter", revives an abandoned Hasbro G1 concept of the "Double Pretender". The original Double Pretender Gorilla Pretender shell was first shown by Hasbro at BotCon 1996 alongside a Double Pretender Spider mold, the original G1 Unicron that was never released, and several other abandoned concepts that were never released at retail.

Apparently, the all-new Oilmaster Pretender mold was a joint venture between Fun Publications (the folks behind BotCon) and a company called "Boss Fight Studio". Here's a quote from their Facebook page regarding Oilmaster:

Boss Fight Studio is proud to have worked with Fun Publications on the 2015 Botcon convention exclusives - most especially the all new mech-gorilla Pretender shell for OILMASTER! This guy was a fun one!


To the best of our knowledge, the inner robots for Oilmaster were never made or never made it to the hard copy phase. To replace the inner robots, Oilmaster will utilize the Generations Swerve mold with his Mini-Con partner to simulate the two-robots-in-one-Pretender-shell concept.

Without further ado, please check out this exciting reveal that BotCon posted earlier this morning ...



Transformers News: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set

Transformers News: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set

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Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679877)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 27th, 2015 @ 11:56am CDT
Overall, this set is very underwhelming. I absolutely disagree with Oilmaster being a bigger deal than Scorponok, and I didn't think Scorponok was a big deal. I wouldn't mind owning 1, but not for the price he goes for.

I think it would have been more creative to actually put the inner robots of Oilmaster into the last shell, and revealing them that way, instead of the long, boring, and uninspired way they did it.

The only figure I have a mild interest in is Battletrap, and only because I like the mold and the color. If he had Stepper's blue Micron weapon, it would be better.

So, yet again, close to $1000 saved by not going to BotCon or getting a set. I'm still interested the add-on figures, especially if the aforementioned Rodimus will be included.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679878)
Posted by JazZeke on April 27th, 2015 @ 11:57am CDT
:-? Hmm. I'm not sure how I feel about this. I guess my mixed emotions all cancel each other out and leave me feeling just general apathy. I... guess it's cool? But, I dunno.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679879)
Posted by Seibertron on April 27th, 2015 @ 12:02pm CDT
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:I am just speechless. They weren't kidding with the last reveal topping last year's Scorponok. :shock:

And just so you all know Oilmaster uses no new tooling whatsoever from what I can tell (ok, maybe the head), that shell is a pre-existing mold. In fact, that very shell is made from the actual Double Pretender prototype, first shown at BotCon 1996. Unreleased back in G1, now sees the light as a BotCon toy!

Also worth nothing that only the shell seems to have made it to the hard copy stage, the inner bots never did. In other words, there were no molds for the inner bots to use.


Boss Fight Studios made the shell.


Then I wonder who supplied the specifications of the original mold :)


Don't know, but it is different in regards to it's sculpt in the legs, chest, head, and maybe the arms.


I think it's based on it visually, but it is a new mold. Maybe Pete can clarify for us?
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679880)
Posted by JazZeke on April 27th, 2015 @ 12:03pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:So, yet again, close to $1000 saved by not going to BotCon or getting a set. I'm still interested the add-on figures, especially if the aforementioned Rodimus will be included.

I'm kinda bummed because I have a friend who lives in Chicago and we talked about splitting for this year's box set when they announced the convention would be in his back yard. But this set... there's nothing in it that appeals to me, just my luck. :\
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679881)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on April 27th, 2015 @ 12:04pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Overall, this set is very underwhelming. I absolutely disagree with Oilmaster being a bigger deal than Scorponok, and I didn't think Scorponok was a big deal. I wouldn't mind owning 1, but not for the price he goes for.

I think it would have been more creative to actually put the inner robots of Oilmaster into the last shell, and revealing them that way, instead of the long, boring, and uninspired way they did it.

The only figure I have a mild interest in is Battletrap, and only because I like the mold and the color. If he had Stepper's blue Micron weapon, it would be better.

So, yet again, close to $1000 saved by not going to BotCon or getting a set. I'm still interested the add-on figures, especially if the aforementioned Rodimus will be included.


It'd be funny if it's just the springer mold repainted like cloud rodimus in polybags
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679883)
Posted by Seibertron on April 27th, 2015 @ 12:09pm CDT
While some of you will not understand my excitement for this figure, I think Oilmaster might be one of the best Transformers exclusives ever. This product will not appeal to everyone.

For me, it is the history behind this item that has me really excited. BotCon 1996 was my first BotCon. I got to see in person the Double Pretenders alongside G1 Unicron and a few other canceled Transformers toys 19 years ago at BotCon. It was really exciting because, at that time, so little was known about canceled concepts, products, etc. It was the first time those products had been shown publicly. Seeing that we'll be getting some version of this toy after all these years is really exciting to me.

Botcon exclusives should be items like that. Bringing back old concepts, finding old molds for new purposes, being a way to bring products that would otherwise never see the light of day because it is the die-hard fans that continue to fuel BotCon year after year who would be able to appreciate unique items like that.

Seeing this product continues to give me hope that we will one day be able to purchase replica vintage G1 Arcee and G1 Unicron ... and now possibly the Spider Double Pretender (maybe with an Insecticon repaint?). Fingers crossed!
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679884)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on April 27th, 2015 @ 12:09pm CDT
SW's SilverHammer wrote:It'd be funny if it's just the springer mold repainted like cloud rodimus in polybags
I would actually prefer that. It most likely would be cheaper than the Cloud Rodimus figure.

I don't own any versions of the mold, but I might pick up all 4 of them now.

Rodimus
Springer
Sandstorm
Battletrap
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679885)
Posted by Seibertron on April 27th, 2015 @ 12:11pm CDT
JazZeke wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:So, yet again, close to $1000 saved by not going to BotCon or getting a set. I'm still interested the add-on figures, especially if the aforementioned Rodimus will be included.

I'm kinda bummed because I have a friend who lives in Chicago and we talked about splitting for this year's box set when they announced the convention would be in his back yard. But this set... there's nothing in it that appeals to me, just my luck. :\


So why don't you still come to BotCon as a regular attendee? Seems like an opportunity to get to hang with one of your friends, get to hang out with all of us from Seibertron.com, and opportunity to buy other Transformers toys in the dealer room still seems like a great trip, regardless of whether or not you get the box set.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679887)
Posted by JazZeke on April 27th, 2015 @ 12:15pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:
JazZeke wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:So, yet again, close to $1000 saved by not going to BotCon or getting a set. I'm still interested the add-on figures, especially if the aforementioned Rodimus will be included.

I'm kinda bummed because I have a friend who lives in Chicago and we talked about splitting for this year's box set when they announced the convention would be in his back yard. But this set... there's nothing in it that appeals to me, just my luck. :\


So why don't you still come to BotCon as a regular attendee? Seems like an opportunity to get to hang with one of your friends, get to hang out with all of us from Seibertron.com, and opportunity to buy other Transformers toys in the dealer room still seems like a great trip, regardless of whether or not you get the box set.

Believe me, I am thinking about it, I had a blast at TFCon last year (and it was cool to meet you, by the way). I'm not sure I can swing the money for it though. It depends on how I'm doing financially in the next couple months.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679890)
Posted by Mkall on April 27th, 2015 @ 12:41pm CDT
It's certainly one of their most ambitious things I've seen them do, but I'm not a pretenders fan, so the shell will stay in the box.

Evil Swerve looks like fun though.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679892)
Posted by King Kuuga on April 27th, 2015 @ 12:47pm CDT
I'm unclear on this. Is the gorilla a new mold or not? It doesn't look like the prototype shown in 1996, and I'm not aware of any other mold that could be used as the base for this. However, an entirely new mold seems way out of Botcon's budget. Somebody please clarify.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679898)
Posted by Deathsanras on April 27th, 2015 @ 1:01pm CDT
So... Yay, a big gorilla-shaped box to store your discolored Swerve and Flanker in!
I find MP-10's collapsing and back-storing gun to be more impressive.
Abandoned ideas were abandoned for a reason, and some of them should just stay abandoned.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679899)
Posted by Mindmaster on April 27th, 2015 @ 1:01pm CDT
It's cool, but it ain't for me. All this does is give me hope that BotCon exclusives will continue to get grander and grander.

*sigh* Why did Battletrap have to be part of this set...
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679900)
Posted by Seibertron on April 27th, 2015 @ 1:02pm CDT
Pete Sinclair / Botcon wrote:"it's an all new mold"


If you look at the photograph from 1996 and compare it to the new mold, you can see the large amount of differences. I'm pretty sure a hinge for the "backpack" was not included on the original either. All G1 Pretenders had removable pieces (whether it was the back half of the figure or a removable panel) to accommodate the Pretender feature whereas this one has a hinged backpack which is a pretty nice feature.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679901)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on April 27th, 2015 @ 1:09pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:
Pete Sinclair / Botcon wrote:"it's an all new mold"


If you look at the photograph from 1996 and compare it to the new mold, you can see the large amount of differences. I'm pretty sure a hinge for the "backpack" was not included on the original either. All G1 Pretenders had removable pieces (whether it was the back half of the figure or a removable panel) to accommodate the Pretender feature whereas this one has a hinged backpack which is a pretty nice feature.

If that's the case then you might want to edit the news post since it includes a quote from Jelze saying it's the original.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679904)
Posted by Seibertron on April 27th, 2015 @ 1:18pm CDT
SW's SilverHammer wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
Pete Sinclair / Botcon wrote:"it's an all new mold"


If you look at the photograph from 1996 and compare it to the new mold, you can see the large amount of differences. I'm pretty sure a hinge for the "backpack" was not included on the original either. All G1 Pretenders had removable pieces (whether it was the back half of the figure or a removable panel) to accommodate the Pretender feature whereas this one has a hinged backpack which is a pretty nice feature.

If that's the case then you might want to edit the news post since it includes a quote from Jelze saying it's the original.


Whoops! Thanks for pointing that out. I quoted his post, then got distracted with writing the actual news post instead of replying to Jelze. I forgot that quote was still in my post. Thanks for pointing it out so that I could remove it.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679905)
Posted by Rated X on April 27th, 2015 @ 1:27pm CDT
By no means does that thing top scorponok. Its even more lame that they have the balls to call it a "double pretender" when its clearly one robot and his super small targetmaster mini-con. The only figure I want is battletrap. Hopefully they have the brains to release the blitzwing mold as flywheels or I wont even waste my time buying battletrap. I would consider pacrat for 40 bucks maybe. Unless the exclusives are really cool Ill be saving a lot of money this year on botcon stuff which is good because I go overboard with the 3rd party stuff.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679907)
Posted by redoutlander on April 27th, 2015 @ 1:31pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:Botcon exclusives should be items like that. Bringing back old concepts, finding old molds for new purposes, being a way to bring products that would otherwise never see the light of day because it is the die-hard fans that continue to fuel BotCon year after year who would be able to appreciate unique items like that.

Seeing this product continues to give me hope that we will one day be able to purchase replica vintage G1 Arcee and G1 Unicron ... and now possibly the Spider Double Pretender (maybe with an Insecticon repaint?). Fingers crossed!


This is the perfect point! The club should be focusing its efforts on hard to find or unreleased molds. Repaints and new headsculps can be fun, but so many times I feel we just get a repainted odd ball figure that doesn't fit the character it is supposed to represent. The Club needs to find a way to uses relevant figures with good molds.

"The Boss" Megaton is a good example of one that just misses the mark. The Prime breakdown molds never made it to the US shelves. This is why I want the mold. What I don't want is another odd repaint of Megaton that doesn't fit in with ANY fiction except being shoehorned into the club's comic.

Don’t misunderstand me. I’m not saying I hate either figure. I just am being very critical because I want the Club to be something WORTH the money we spend on them. I vote(or not) on my dollar.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679910)
Posted by rpetras on April 27th, 2015 @ 1:39pm CDT
I actually really dog this and I'm impressed they went the extra mile to create an entirely new mold.

I won't be attending botcon, but with all the apathy I see here, maybe I'll be able to score this guy cheaper on the secondary market.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679912)
Posted by Seibertron on April 27th, 2015 @ 1:43pm CDT
redoutlander wrote:"The Boss" Megaton is a good example of one that just misses the mark. The Prime breakdown molds never made it to the US shelves. This is why I want the mold. What I don't want is another odd repaint of Megaton that doesn't fit in with ANY fiction except being shoehorned into the club's comic.

Don’t misunderstand me. I’m not saying I hate either figure. I just am being very critical because I want the Club to be something WORTH the money we spend on them. I vote(or not) on my dollar.


I think they missed the ball with the Breakdown mold. It should have been used last year for Cannonball. A voyager class Cannonball gives us something different and would have been a fun way to update Cannonball. Instead, we got another deluxe class Cannonball figure (the 2nd one in 8 or 9 years) which I don't think anyone was asking for (nor did anyone really want). BotCon Cannonball is an OK toy, but nothing too special that it's offering something that we already didn't have. But making Cannonball from the Voyager Class Breakdown mold would have been really awesome. The only catch with my idea is using the mold again for a primarily black toy. I'd have to see mock-ups of a Voyager Cannonball to see if it's as good as an idea as I think it was.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679913)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on April 27th, 2015 @ 1:46pm CDT
Seibertron wrote: I'd have to see mock-ups of a Voyager Cannonball to see if it's as good as an idea as I think it was.

Would you Accept a digibash?
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Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679914)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 27th, 2015 @ 1:46pm CDT
That Bot wrote:I'm unclear on this. Is the gorilla a new mold or not? It doesn't look like the prototype shown in 1996, and I'm not aware of any other mold that could be used as the base for this. However, an entirely new mold seems way out of Botcon's budget. Somebody please clarify.


It looks to be a new mold, with some caveats:

1) the creation itself was outsourced to another company called Boss Fight Studios.
2) the overall design is based on, but not an exact match to the Double Pretender prototype. Who supplied the schematics, if any, we don't know.

It is feasible that it was done with Hasbro's permission, and they supplied the design sketches for FunPub and Boss Fight to use.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679921)
Posted by Desslok2201 on April 27th, 2015 @ 2:00pm CDT
I thought this year's botcon stuff was pointless... Until I saw this. Words can't convey how much I want this. If anyone is going this year and wants to unload this, don't hesitate to let me know, I'll gladly take it off of your hands. I was not expecting this at all. :BOWDOWN:
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679926)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on April 27th, 2015 @ 2:16pm CDT
this set went from being absolute garbage to everyone wanting one, hasbro has no idea how to make toys but they do know how to screw people out of their money. But it really is a shame cause bringing back pretenders would be a nice change of pace and im sure this one would sell at mass retail easy.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679928)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on April 27th, 2015 @ 2:17pm CDT
Desslok2201 wrote:I thought this year's botcon stuff was pointless... Until I saw this. Words can't convey how much I want this. If anyone is going this year and wants to unload this, don't hesitate to let me know, I'll gladly take it off of your hands. I was not expecting this at all. :BOWDOWN:


I second this. If ANYONE wants to sell off a Megatron, Stepper or Oilmaster I will not hesitate to buy any of them at the right price. I LOVE shattered glass but dont have the money to buy an expensive one on Ebay; That Megatron really looks like my type, and I WANT a good pretender, which that is. PLEASE CONTACT ME. I WILL BUY AT GOOD PRICE! :BOT:
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679930)
Posted by Doubledealer93 on April 27th, 2015 @ 2:21pm CDT
wow, this year and last year are both bad.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679932)
Posted by Genericon #378 on April 27th, 2015 @ 2:23pm CDT
Well, we all knew it would happen eventually. He's a trukk......but he's also a munkey!
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679935)
Posted by Railbomb on April 27th, 2015 @ 2:26pm CDT
That's... kinda really cool. Wasn't sure at first why they used Swerve but it appears that he was a truck in one of the E-Hobby comics. May have to get this box set for him, Battletrap and Megs (as confusing as he is, I do think he makes a good Megatron, just not a DOTM Megs.)
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679940)
Posted by Autobot032 on April 27th, 2015 @ 2:42pm CDT
This is one of the weirdest and craziest sets I've ever seen. It's all over the map so much it has frequent flier miles.

You have CHUG, with G1 (actual G1, which is impressive, I admit) and...Arms Micron? I...words fail me. I really don't get it. Fortunately, none of the figures are overtly ugly, so they do have that going for them. I mean, there were some years where it was just...wow, where's a lightswitch to kill these lights kinda ugly.

The one thing that angers me is Megatron. "The tooling is too expensive to bring Breakdown to the US at this time." (I'm paraphrasing, but that was the gist.) Now it's "Oh, wait. You want to pay us to get access to the Takara molds so you can sell it at an exorbitant amount and screw people out of their money even more, as well as rub it in people's faces that they couldn't get a Breakdown but we're now using this mold to fleece the fans? YOU BETCHA!"

See, it's the Seekers all over again, but the final laugh was had by the fans because the public and the average fan finally got them, not just the power buyers who were willing to fling themselves across the country and world via plane to get to them. Here, it's a mold that many wanted, but never could have access to and will never get, outside of a select few willing to spend even more this year because the prices have gone up and it just reeks of horrible mishandling of the mold and the fans.

No sir, I don't like it!
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679942)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on April 27th, 2015 @ 2:47pm CDT
This botcon box set was like watching a train wreck.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679944)
Posted by Autobot032 on April 27th, 2015 @ 2:58pm CDT
SW's SilverHammer wrote:This botcon box set was like watching a train wreck.


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Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679946)
Posted by shockblast2 on April 27th, 2015 @ 3:09pm CDT
LOL....you must be joking.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679949)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on April 27th, 2015 @ 3:18pm CDT
Autobot032 wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:This botcon box set was like watching a train wreck.


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Like I said on the galleries page, the worst part about the set is how it lacks any direction, even though the lack there of is the direction. However it doesn't go far enough in its lack of Direction, if anything this boxset should be using some form of Dadaism to show how abstract it's setting is. However it still tries to be grounded with the "Cybertron's Most Wanted" aspect which is supposed to be all the figures fans and the club have wanted for years; according to the club. Basically, what i'm saying is, it should've either done away with the theme used some artistic expression that embraced chaos and irrationality for the boxset, or made it a coherent themed boxset focused on one thing. Seeing as the Oilmaster is the main spectacle, it probably should've focused on unproduced figures and concepts made contemporary.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679951)
Posted by Desslok2201 on April 27th, 2015 @ 3:28pm CDT
I think they missed an opportunity with Oilmaster's name. Are both robots Olimaster? It should have been a compound word, such as Throwdown, with one being 'Throw' and another being 'Down' and both called 'Throwdown' when in the shell. Just a thought.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679955)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 27th, 2015 @ 3:34pm CDT
Desslok2201 wrote:I think they missed an opportunity with Oilmaster's name. Are both robots Olimaster? It should have been a compound word, such as Throwdown, with one being 'Throw' and another being 'Down' and both called 'Throwdown' when in the shell. Just a thought.


It's a bit forced, sadly: his fiction debut was in Badlands, the comic included with Gen. Magnificus, which also give him his name (based on a Japanese blogger whose name translates to "Oil Master").
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679957)
Posted by Desslok2201 on April 27th, 2015 @ 3:42pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Desslok2201 wrote:I think they missed an opportunity with Oilmaster's name. Are both robots Olimaster? It should have been a compound word, such as Throwdown, with one being 'Throw' and another being 'Down' and both called 'Throwdown' when in the shell. Just a thought.


It's a bit forced, sadly: his fiction debut was in Badlands, the comic included with Gen. Magnificus, which also give him his name (based on a Japanese blogger whose name translates to "Oil Master").


That in no way makes me love this any less. I hope that this is a trend that continues with the club. I would love to see the unreleased micromaster base see the light of day.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679958)
Posted by Tsutsukakushi on April 27th, 2015 @ 3:44pm CDT
Thinking TFCC has become desperate enough to use a new mold for a Botcon toy. Probably because it's becoming harder to convince fans to spend over $70 for each Botcon toy. that's just a repaint with maybe a new head.

Think TFCC is finding it harder each year to compete with Third party companies.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679959)
Posted by Editor on April 27th, 2015 @ 3:47pm CDT
Battletrap i'm interested in, but the others I can easily live without.

Maybe the at show releases will be a bit more interesting but so far... Meh.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679961)
Posted by Tsutsukakushi on April 27th, 2015 @ 3:48pm CDT
Think, Had the mecha gorilla pretender shell been fully articulated it would have been worth buying. With almost no articulation, it's a easy pass.

Think this is the way PWTT needed to design their pretender toys. With just creating fully articulated pretender shells. then using HasTak Legends class toys to fit inside the shells.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679962)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 27th, 2015 @ 3:49pm CDT
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Thinking TFCC has to be desperate enough to use a new mold for a Botcon toy. Probably because it's becoming a harder to convince fans to spend over $70 for each Botcon toy. that's just a repaint with maybe a new head.

Think TFCC is finding it harder each year to compete with Third party companies.


Nah, I think it's more like trying to step up their game and surprise us with things we initially thought of as inconceivable. Besides, a Matryushka Doll for all intents and purposes, is easier to make than a whole new Transformers figure from scratch, especially if you have a model beforehand ;).

And I just read that Boss Fight Studios has been responsible for all the BotCon retools done in the recent years, like the new heads. Just another walk in the park for them.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679964)
Posted by Desslok2201 on April 27th, 2015 @ 3:52pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Thinking TFCC has to be desperate enough to use a new mold for a Botcon toy. Probably because it's becoming a harder to convince fans to spend over $70 for each Botcon toy. that's just a repaint with maybe a new head.

Think TFCC is finding it harder each year to compete with Third party companies.


Nah, I think it's more like trying to step up their game and surprise us with things we initially thought of as inconceivable. Besides, a Matryushka Doll for all intents and purposes, is easier to make than a whole new Transformers figure from scratch, especially if you have a model beforehand ;).

And I just read that Boss Fight Studios has been responsible for all the BotCon retools done in the recent years, like the new heads. Just another walk in the park for them.

Doesn't Boss Fight do the JoeCon stuff as well?
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679969)
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on April 27th, 2015 @ 4:03pm CDT
Wow, had to skip to 2:20 just to get to the figure. And this guy takes a long time to say nothing. The figure is cool though. Too bad I don't have lots of money or a trip to BotCon.

EDIT: Also: I love me some pretenders. Wish I could get this guy.

Also: THIS ISN'T EVEN MY FINAL FORM!
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679987)
Posted by gothsaurus on April 27th, 2015 @ 4:52pm CDT
Yeah, this is definitely the cherry on top for the set. Really a nice surprise. Hope they can do more like this. Some people had talked about wanting totally new characters again, and this is certainly the way to do it!

As for the bots collected in the set... they do seem to be an oddly mismatched collection. Maybe when the story, comic, and box are revealed they will seem more coherent as a group. (?)

I'm guessing they are slaves to constraints like... well... making sure all the figures FIT in the box, for one. Others being not wanting two of the same mold (or troop builders) in the box together. Guessing all of that ties their hands and dictates what goes in the box set, whether it looks "matchy" or not.

I do think the colors look good together, which is a plus.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1679999)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on April 27th, 2015 @ 5:19pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:It'd be funny if it's just the springer mold repainted like cloud rodimus in polybags
I would actually prefer that. It most likely would be cheaper than the Cloud Rodimus figure.

I don't own any versions of the mold, but I might pick up all 4 of them now.

Rodimus
Springer
Sandstorm
Battletrap


GO-GO Triple Changers!

Boss Fight are a group of former Hasbro employees that do freelance design work for Hasbro and Fun Pub. It's possible they knew what the original Pretender was supposed to look like. What's On Joe Mind? has had them on the show a few times.

I'm confused, were double Pretenders supposed to be different from the Pretenders who had shells that could transform and combine with the inner robot?
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1680001)
Posted by Tsutsukakushi on April 27th, 2015 @ 5:21pm CDT
Would not be the least bit surprised to see this 2015 Botcon Gorilla shell box set toy. get repurposed as a Botcon 2015 add on toy. Thinking TFCC will do a Beast Wars Optimus Primal with a inner robot being a legends class CHUG G1 Optimus Prime toy. to spoof the Trukk not monkey fan joke.

Either way, TFCC paid a lot of money to create this Gorilla shell. Don't think they'll use it once and that's it. TFCC will probably use it multiple times for Botcon, club and subscription toys.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1680002)
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on April 27th, 2015 @ 5:22pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:It'd be funny if it's just the springer mold repainted like cloud rodimus in polybags
I would actually prefer that. It most likely would be cheaper than the Cloud Rodimus figure.

I don't own any versions of the mold, but I might pick up all 4 of them now.

Rodimus
Springer
Sandstorm
Battletrap


GO-GO Triple Changers!

Boss Fight are a group of former Hasbro employees that do freelance design work for Hasbro and Fun Pub. It's possible they knew what the original Pretender was supposed to look like. What's On Joe Mind? has had them on the show a few times.

I'm confused, were double Pretenders supposed to be different from the Pretenders who had shells that could transform and combine with the inner robot?

two individual robots in the shell, that could combine into one larger robot.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1680004)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 27th, 2015 @ 5:25pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'm confused, were double Pretenders supposed to be different from the Pretenders who had shells that could transform and combine with the inner robot?


As the name implies, Double Pretenders were supposed to have not one, but two robots inside the Shell. We don't really know what the robots themselves were supposed to do because we have no prototypes or even design sheets for them: only the Shell seems to have made to the hard copy stage.

That's the reason why "Oilmaster" is two figures instead of one, three if you count the Shell. In fact, the main conscience is split among the three according to bio, akin to G1 Optimus Prime's Marvel bio.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1680005)
Posted by gothsaurus on April 27th, 2015 @ 5:28pm CDT
Would be great if they put the shell out in the alternate red colors as a different character on the side. I'm less excited about the notion of shoe-horning it into being a beast wars character.

That said, I REALLY hope they also do the spider. Those would look great together as a kind-of set. It's also really wild and out-there looking. I'm all about getting those kind of figures, especially now. Looking back and snagging those crazy G2 and UK figures is fun.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1680006)
Posted by Zeedust on April 27th, 2015 @ 5:28pm CDT
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Think TFCC is finding it harder each year to compete with Third party companies.


I think they're having a hard time even competing with Hasbro as Generations rolls on. Way back when this whole thing started, Hasbro wasn't doing G1 updates, so FunPub had a fairly clear playing field. Now that market is getting filled by Generations.
Re: Final BotCon 2015 "Oilmaster The Bounty Hunter" Exclusive Toy Revealed from this year's box set (1680008)
Posted by JazZeke on April 27th, 2015 @ 5:38pm CDT
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Think, Had the mecha gorilla pretender shell been fully articulated it would have been worth buying. With almost no articulation, it's a easy pass.

Think this is the way PWTT needed to design their pretender toys. With just creating fully articulated pretender shells. then using HasTak Legends class toys to fit inside the shells.

Yeah, that's what kills this for me, too. I actually LIKE the concept of Pretenders, it's just the execution that's a huge let-down. I had hoped that when Hasbro eventually revisited the concept (as they've been working their way through the old gimmicks in the Generations line), we would get a Pretender shell with some actual articulation, not yet another bulky, hollow brick that just stands there, looking the opposite of intimidating.

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