IDW to Lose Transformers Comics License at the End of 2022

ZeroWolf wrote:I quite like the new beast Wars comic actually if people were this hung up on art style then Animated/Cyberverse would never have become fan favourites. Though I should point out that only Animated achieved the double punch of show and toyline being favourites, as the Cyberverse toyline was geared to a different audience so of course, people attacked it.

Anyways, what I would expect from the new studio is maybe one ongoing/miniseries at first and then branch from there. Keep things simple. Also learned that these are the folks that have been cranking out lego ninjago comics.

I do wonder if they'll attempt yet another G1 re-imagining or will it be based on the new cartoon heading our way

primalxconvoy wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I quite like the new beast Wars comic actually if people were this hung up on art style then Animated/Cyberverse would never have become fan favourites. Though I should point out that only Animated achieved the double punch of show and toyline being favourites, as the Cyberverse toyline was geared to a different audience so of course, people attacked it.

Anyways, what I would expect from the new studio is maybe one ongoing/miniseries at first and then branch from there. Keep things simple. Also learned that these are the folks that have been cranking out lego ninjago comics.

I do wonder if they'll attempt yet another G1 re-imagining or will it be based on the new cartoon heading our way

There's Animated, and there's the awful BW comic.

Look at this awful picture:

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PicsArt_1624570756268~01.png

It's basically worse than anything Animated had to offer. Also, I think Animated toys didn't sell that well, due to the aesthetic, if I recall? The toys were only out for a year, and many were unreleased?

ZeroWolf wrote:I do wonder if they'll attempt yet another G1 re-imagining or will it be based on the new cartoon heading our way

AcademyofDrX wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I quite like the new beast Wars comic actually if people were this hung up on art style then Animated/Cyberverse would never have become fan favourites. Though I should point out that only Animated achieved the double punch of show and toyline being favourites, as the Cyberverse toyline was geared to a different audience so of course, people attacked it.

Anyways, what I would expect from the new studio is maybe one ongoing/miniseries at first and then branch from there. Keep things simple. Also learned that these are the folks that have been cranking out lego ninjago comics.

I do wonder if they'll attempt yet another G1 re-imagining or will it be based on the new cartoon heading our way

There's Animated, and there's the awful BW comic.

Look at this awful picture:

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PicsArt_1624570756268~01.png

It's basically worse than anything Animated had to offer. Also, I think Animated toys didn't sell that well, due to the aesthetic, if I recall? The toys were only out for a year, and many were unreleased?

It's not "bad," it's stylized. You don't have to like it, but it's an aesthetic choice. In general I really like Burcham's art style and character designs, I think they have a lot more personality than most Transformers art. It's not for everyone, but that's true of a lot of comic art, especially the best of it.

primalxconvoy wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I quite like the new beast Wars comic actually if people were this hung up on art style then Animated/Cyberverse would never have become fan favourites. Though I should point out that only Animated achieved the double punch of show and toyline being favourites, as the Cyberverse toyline was geared to a different audience so of course, people attacked it.

Anyways, what I would expect from the new studio is maybe one ongoing/miniseries at first and then branch from there. Keep things simple. Also learned that these are the folks that have been cranking out lego ninjago comics.

I do wonder if they'll attempt yet another G1 re-imagining or will it be based on the new cartoon heading our way

There's Animated, and there's the awful BW comic.

Look at this awful picture:

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PicsArt_1624570756268~01.png

It's basically worse than anything Animated had to offer. Also, I think Animated toys didn't sell that well, due to the aesthetic, if I recall? The toys were only out for a year, and many were unreleased?

It's not "bad," it's stylized. You don't have to like it, but it's an aesthetic choice. In general I really like Burcham's art style and character designs, I think they have a lot more personality than most Transformers art. It's not for everyone, but that's true of a lot of comic art, especially the best of it.

Of course it's "stylised", but then again, so too is a picture, drawn in mud, using a twig and we can still say it's "bad" because of it. It's also most certainly not anywhere near the "best" of any contemporary comic art either. It looks like sh*t, IMO and I will be most pleased if the new compsny avoids it like the plague that it truly is.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I quite like the new beast Wars comic actually if people were this hung up on art style then Animated/Cyberverse would never have become fan favourites. Though I should point out that only Animated achieved the double punch of show and toyline being favourites, as the Cyberverse toyline was geared to a different audience so of course, people attacked it.

Anyways, what I would expect from the new studio is maybe one ongoing/miniseries at first and then branch from there. Keep things simple. Also learned that these are the folks that have been cranking out lego ninjago comics.

I do wonder if they'll attempt yet another G1 re-imagining or will it be based on the new cartoon heading our way

There's Animated, and there's the awful BW comic.

Look at this awful picture:

-

PicsArt_1624570756268~01.png

It's basically worse than anything Animated had to offer. Also, I think Animated toys didn't sell that well, due to the aesthetic, if I recall? The toys were only out for a year, and many were unreleased?

It's not "bad," it's stylized. You don't have to like it, but it's an aesthetic choice. In general I really like Burcham's art style and character designs, I think they have a lot more personality than most Transformers art. It's not for everyone, but that's true of a lot of comic art, especially the best of it.

Of course it's "stylised", but then again, so too is a picture, drawn in mud, using a twig and we can still say it's "bad" because of it. It's also most certainly not anywhere near the "best" of any contemporary comic art either. It looks like sh*t, IMO and I will be most pleased if the new compsny avoids it like the plague that it truly is.

You're completely missing my point, but I think we'll have to agree to disagree. Odds are, if you think a comic book from a major publisher looks like it was drawn by a seven year old, that's because you read comics like a seven year old.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Western comics have been in a downward spiral ever since the woke cancer started seeping through. IDW was no exception.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Is that all you have to say?

Did you know that the single manga Demon Slayer sold more than the ENTIRE WESTERN COMICS INDUSTRY last year?

There's a reason for that.
Get out of your bubble to find out.

AcademyofDrX wrote:Yes, that's all I have to say to Gaters.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Western comics have been in a downward spiral ever since the woke cancer started seeping through. IDW was no exception.

My hope is for the Transformers comics to become a manga instead. A manga written and drawn by Japanese artists that have only good stories in mind without any message.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Interesting, but I don't think it's mainstream......yet.
You also won't see these wacky ideas suddenly infect established franchises like for example, Goku in Dragon Ball turning gay for no reasons, or Android 18 revealing to be "trans all along" because why not.

No matter what, there is one universal rule: Money talk.

The decline of American comics is real. Along with Hollywood movies. The woke cancer contributed a lot. No one want to be lectured to when reading fantasy. There's also a need of originality that the West can no longer provide with all their sequels and reboots.

There's also YEARS in development involved and what sold 4 years ago no longer sell today. So everything is in some hard decline and we see flops after flops. It will take some years for the West to produce anything good again. In the meantime, Japan with it's constant renewal and original ideas (despite the onslaught of Isekai fast-food) and pure entertainment value rake in the dough.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:Yes, that's all I have to say to Gaters.

This is you:



But eh, whatever makes you happy. (づ¬◞ ¬)づ

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I think, licensed IP (80's IP's in particular) have a stigma attached to them. They never seem to achieve the sales of original IP's, such as in Manga. Maybe because the license holder wields a tight, creative leash around them. Meaning they can't deviate too far off-script. That coincides with That part of the fanbase. That thinks everything generated by that IP should only appeal directly to their nostalgic tastes. Which also stifles any and all creativity.

Transformers gained a second life via Beast Wars. Which was a radical departure from the original source material. It gained wealth and a wider audience with Bayformers. Which was a less radical. But still, a different enough departure from tradition. That helps with the comics. The Furman run of IDWverse proved that.

Would Hasbro allow a new departure on that scale? I doubt it. I optimistically hope for it though.