New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal

Transformers News: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal

Thursday, June 7th, 2018 6:33PM CDT

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After the initial post for the revived Transformers Encore line from Takara Tomy, we have a couple of updates courtesy of the official Takara Tomy product website for the toy here, and Dengeki Hobby website's coverage of the Tokyo Toy Show 2018, here.

Along with the original images we covered with the reveal, Takara Tomy has also put up the promotional banner for the big bossbot of the Maximals, in his Beast Machines form, and three of the voice clips he will come with in final product - which you can listen to here - starting, in Japanese: '(To) all good children, it's Convoy!', 'Good! If you want to survive...' and 'Okay! Today is rap!...' - or something to that effect. If you're good at transcribing Japanese audio, do let us know!

Transformers News: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal


The other update comes from Tokyo Toy Show 2018, as we have some of the display images from the Takara booth on the floor, mirrored below alongside the other Convoys from across the 35 years of the character. Take a look, and let us know what you think!

Transformers News: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal

Transformers News: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal

Transformers News: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal

Transformers News: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal

Transformers News: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal

Transformers News: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal
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Re: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal (1963686)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 7th, 2018 @ 8:21pm CDT
The first voice clip is a sort of introductory clip.

The second says something about the Oracle.

And the third... sounds a lot like all the "Yvonco" chanting that Rattrap and others did during the opening sequence of episode 14 (season 2, episode 1) in its Japanese dub.
Re: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal (1963786)
Posted by Nathaniel Prime on June 8th, 2018 @ 10:43am CDT
It looks great, but sadly I can't afford it as usual. I also much prefer Hasbro's Platinum version. I don't know why, but that Primal in Prime colors looks perfect to me :x
Re: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal (1963816)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 8th, 2018 @ 1:39pm CDT
Nathaniel Prime wrote:It looks great, but sadly I can't afford it as usual. I also much prefer Hasbro's Platinum version. I don't know why, but that Primal in Prime colors looks perfect to me :x


I also have it and I LOVE it. Plus you can get it for very cheap if you know where to look.
Re: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal (1963833)
Posted by Emerje on June 8th, 2018 @ 3:40pm CDT
If this were a cartoon accurate mold I'd be all over this, but it isn't so I can't really justify buying this figure again just for more paint details.

Emerje
Re: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal (1963852)
Posted by Lucky Logician on June 8th, 2018 @ 5:46pm CDT
I get that he is speaking in Japanese and the original did not. The redeco is nice, but it is so slight that you wouldn't notice unless you compare it to the old version. Not worth the cash.

Now if they took Blast Punch Optimus Primal and gave him an accurate color scheme, lots of people would be happy. Especially since he would be more in scale with the other BM toys. They could charge $50 and plenty of people across the world would buy that. They could probably even charge $70 and still get money from a good amount of people.

Re: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal (1963855)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 8th, 2018 @ 5:59pm CDT
[quote]What the guy above said.[/quote]

The deco is VERY different from the original. It's a major improvement. But I agree that the problem is the mold itself. Way too huge and don't scale with anything.
Re: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal (1963861)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 8th, 2018 @ 6:10pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:[quote]What the guy above said.


The deco is VERY different from the original. It's a major improvement. But I agree that the problem is the mold itself. Way too huge and don't scale with anything.[/quote]It scales with Nightscream and Supreme Cheetor. ;)
Re: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal (1963862)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 8th, 2018 @ 6:15pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:[quote]What the guy above said.


The deco is VERY different from the original. It's a major improvement. But I agree that the problem is the mold itself. Way too huge and don't scale with anything.
It scales with Nightscream and Supreme Cheetor. ;)[/quote]

The one who have such a display should be thrown deep into an oubliette! :michaelbay:
Re: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal (1963863)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 8th, 2018 @ 6:20pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:[quote]What the guy above said.


The deco is VERY different from the original. It's a major improvement. But I agree that the problem is the mold itself. Way too huge and don't scale with anything.
It scales with Nightscream and Supreme Cheetor. ;)


The one who have such a display should be thrown deep into an oubliette! :michaelbay: [/quote]Including our illustrious Site Owner? ;) :P



Re: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal (1963864)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 8th, 2018 @ 6:23pm CDT
Re: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal (1963866)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 8th, 2018 @ 6:32pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:[quote]What the guy above said.


The deco is VERY different from the original. It's a major improvement. But I agree that the problem is the mold itself. Way too huge and don't scale with anything.
It scales with Nightscream and Supreme Cheetor. ;)


The one who have such a display should be thrown deep into an oubliette! :michaelbay:[/quote]
Now that's something you don't hear every day...

Seeing those pictures though makes me wonder what hasbro were thinking when doing the beast machines line or if they had research to prove toys like that would sell.
Re: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal (1963871)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 8th, 2018 @ 6:41pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:[quote]What the guy above said.


The deco is VERY different from the original. It's a major improvement. But I agree that the problem is the mold itself. Way too huge and don't scale with anything.
It scales with Nightscream and Supreme Cheetor. ;)


The one who have such a display should be thrown deep into an oubliette! :michaelbay:

Now that's something you don't hear every day...

Seeing those pictures though makes me wonder what hasbro were thinking when doing the beast machines line or if they had research to prove toys like that would sell.[/quote]At the time, Hasbro has based the designs for the initinal toys of the show characters off of preliminary concept artwork done by Draxhall Jump, which differed from the finalized CG models done by Mainframe. Towards the end of the line, in the Battle for the Spark subline, more show-accurate molds began to crop up in the line, but which still didn't quite match the rather toy-transformation-unfriendly CG models.

It was a time when Hasbro and Mainframe simply weren't as much on the same page as they had been with Beast Wars since, unlike Beast Wars having had its toys designed before the cartoon models were, the Beast Machines cartoon designs and toy designs were made more independently of each other.
Re: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal (1963897)
Posted by Emerje on June 8th, 2018 @ 10:14pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:[quote]What the guy above said.


The deco is VERY different from the original. It's a major improvement. But I agree that the problem is the mold itself. Way too huge and don't scale with anything.
It scales with Nightscream and Supreme Cheetor. ;)


The one who have such a display should be thrown deep into an oubliette! :michaelbay:

Now that's something you don't hear every day...

Seeing those pictures though makes me wonder what hasbro were thinking when doing the beast machines line or if they had research to prove toys like that would sell.
At the time, Hasbro has based the designs for the initinal toys of the show characters off of preliminary concept artwork done by Draxhall Jump, which differed from the finalized CG models done by Mainframe. Towards the end of the line, in the Battle for the Spark subline, more show-accurate molds began to crop up in the line, but which still didn't quite match the rather toy-transformation-unfriendly CG models.

It was a time when Hasbro and Mainframe simply weren't as much on the same page as they had been with Beast Wars since, unlike Beast Wars having had its toys designed before the cartoon models were, the Beast Machines cartoon designs and toy designs were made more independently of each other.[/quote]
It's really Hasbro's fault. They told Mainframe to split their season 4 budget to also make an Action Man cartoon forcing Mainframe to start Beast Wars over as Beast Machines with easier to animate CG, transformation trickery, and very few textures. If Mainframe had their entire budget they might have been able to do something closer to the Draxhall Jump designs, for better or worse.

And yes, I would buy Blast Punch Primal in show colors in a heartbeat. Unfortunately the new Encore line seems to be designed to use existing molds as a substitute for MPs that will never happen so bigger is better. I'm sure we'll be getting a Cybertron/Galaxy Force Optimus Prime announcement sooner or later.

Emerje
Re: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal (1963910)
Posted by Seibertron on June 9th, 2018 @ 12:07am CDT
You know what would really sell me on a proper re-release of Air Attack Optimus Primal? If he actually came in Beast Machines or Beast Wars Returns packaging in a similar style to how he had been done previously. Heck, split the production run in half and do both package styles, or do a flipped box with one side having one package style with a window, and the flip side of the package having product imagery but in the style of the other product line. Now that could be really cool.
Re: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal (1963967)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 9th, 2018 @ 8:28am CDT
Seibertron wrote:You know what would really sell me on a proper re-release of Air Attack Optimus Primal? If he actually came in Beast Machines or Beast Wars Returns packaging in a similar style to how he had been done previously. Heck, split the production run in half and do both package styles, or do a flipped box with one side having one package style with a window, and the flip side of the package having product imagery but in the style of the other product line. Now that could be really cool.
Knowing the Encore line's penchant for using vintage packaging styles, it more than most likely will be using Beast Wars Returns-styled packaging, especially since this toy's name is "Returns Convoy".
Re: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal (1964034)
Posted by shajaki on June 9th, 2018 @ 1:09pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Seibertron wrote:You know what would really sell me on a proper re-release of Air Attack Optimus Primal? If he actually came in Beast Machines or Beast Wars Returns packaging in a similar style to how he had been done previously. Heck, split the production run in half and do both package styles, or do a flipped box with one side having one package style with a window, and the flip side of the package having product imagery but in the style of the other product line. Now that could be really cool.
Knowing the Encore line's penchant for using vintage packaging styles, it more than most likely will be using Beast Wars Returns-styled packaging, especially since this toy's name is "Returns Convoy".
It is an interesting point, since this figure was never actually released by TT (right?). We could end up with something original :-?
Re: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal (1964036)
Posted by william-james88 on June 9th, 2018 @ 1:15pm CDT
shajaki wrote:It is an interesting point, since this figure was never actually released by TT (right?).

Yes and no. Its the same scenario as Masterpiece Acid Storm. Released by Takara but the same as Hasbro version in the same box.
Re: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal (1964037)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 9th, 2018 @ 1:15pm CDT
shajaki wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Seibertron wrote:You know what would really sell me on a proper re-release of Air Attack Optimus Primal? If he actually came in Beast Machines or Beast Wars Returns packaging in a similar style to how he had been done previously. Heck, split the production run in half and do both package styles, or do a flipped box with one side having one package style with a window, and the flip side of the package having product imagery but in the style of the other product line. Now that could be really cool.
Knowing the Encore line's penchant for using vintage packaging styles, it more than most likely will be using Beast Wars Returns-styled packaging, especially since this toy's name is "Returns Convoy".
It is an interesting point, since this figure was never actually released by TT (right?). We could end up with something original :-?
Sky Lynx and Omega Supreme were likewise never released by Takara prior to their Encore releases, so they have set a precedent for Returns Convoy to get vintage Takara BWR packaging like they got vintage Takara G1 packaging. :D
Re: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal (1964049)
Posted by shajaki on June 9th, 2018 @ 2:05pm CDT
I didn't know that. Neat ;)^

I'll be really pleased if he gets a box in the BWR style.
Re: New Details for Takara Tomy Transformers Encore Air Attack Optimus Primal (1964278)
Posted by fenrir72 on June 10th, 2018 @ 11:56pm CDT
Relevant or not but take a look at this. As of June 10,2018

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