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New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector

Transformers News: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector

Thursday, March 3rd, 2022 9:20AM CST

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We have some fun news for ReAction figures fans with images for the next wave. This one features Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector all with a very G1 Sunbow aesthetic. While they all cost $17.99, Grimlock is substantially bigger than the rest, as you can see from the packaging images. These are already available for preorder at a few websites including BBTS. These are due out this month.

Transformers News: ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector Revealed

Transformers News: ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector Revealed

Transformers News: ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector Revealed

Transformers News: ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector Revealed

Transformers News: ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector Revealed

Transformers News: ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector Revealed

Transformers News: ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector Revealed

Transformers News: ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector Revealed

Transformers News: ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector Revealed

Transformers News: ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector Revealed

Transformers News: ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector Revealed

Transformers News: ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector Revealed

Transformers News: ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector Revealed

Transformers News: ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector Revealed

Transformers News: ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector Revealed

Transformers News: ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector Revealed

Transformers News: ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector Revealed

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Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2128536)
Posted by MCutter on March 3rd, 2022 @ 9:39am CST
Arcee's face reminds me of the Palisades statue.
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Arcee_(G1)/toys#Palisades_Statues
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2128538)
Posted by bluecatcinema on March 3rd, 2022 @ 2:04pm CST
They mixed up Blaster and Perceptor's names...
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2128574)
Posted by joevill on March 5th, 2022 @ 12:09pm CST
I cannot wait until Super 7 makes sharkticons
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2128576)
Posted by AutobotAlvaron on March 5th, 2022 @ 2:44pm CST
This Arcee, compared to the Masterpiece's torso *and* the Bumblebee Movie Arcee's face, seems "Uplifted". :-D
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2128592)
Posted by Bumblevivisector on March 6th, 2022 @ 1:14pm CST
And so, the Action Master Arcee that was a BotCon pipe dream sometime back in the '90s, has finally (well, effectively) come to pass...but only after her Masterpiece toy and dozens of others, official and 3P.

Yet for that reason, she might end up being the second ReActon TF I buy after Deadimus Prime. Still on the fence about really collecting this line. That Reflector might be my tipping point though. I can see ignoring him or army-building, there's no in between. Even allowing that there should be twice as many without the tummy-lens, a second one could be "Warrior" from Divide and Conquer. "No! Please! Not me! No!"
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2128599)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 6th, 2022 @ 8:39pm CST
My Re-Action to these figures:

Ew... Goddamn ugly, limited articulations, and almost 20$US each. All of my nope.
Still, the artwork on the cards are amazing. If by some bizarre circumstance I buy one of these, the toy would remain sealed and I'd hang the card on the wall.
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2143950)
Posted by william-james88 on September 7th, 2022 @ 10:40pm CDT
New Super 7 toys have been found at Target by RMaster who posted images on Twitter. The two toys found were G2 Grimlock and toy deco Galvatron. However, the even bigger news here is that the back of the card revealed more toys coming in this line. We can see Cyclonus, Ultra Magnus, Wreck-Gar, Sharkticon, Quintesson and best of all Unicron. And this isn't modelled after the Transformers movie but is instead modelled after the original prototype of the G1 Unicron toy. You can see an image of that original toy below. So now that means that this never released design will actually get a release. Albeit a smaller non transforming one. Still, it will be a 6 inch ReAction figure, so it will be one of the bigger figures in this line.

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Transformers G1 1986 Unicron Gallery
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2143952)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on September 7th, 2022 @ 10:55pm CDT
This is incredible but I have to admit it does feel a little off this Unicron is being done by a company that's not Hasbro.
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2143959)
Posted by joevill on September 8th, 2022 @ 12:13am CDT
gonna need to buy out all the sharks!
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2143960)
Posted by Bumblevivisector on September 8th, 2022 @ 12:15am CDT
So, Action Master Unicron...HOLDING A GUN, no less! Ever since I got Action Master Bumblebee and Devastator and had them duke it out when I was 12, I've had a sort of long-running fever-dream that if the U.S. G1 line had continued into 1992 instead of pausing before G2, Hasbro would've produced this very toy.

I mean, who/what is he going to shoot with that thing? Tornadron? (If it's an energy-draining de-kineto blaster) Eternity? The Living Planet? Those assume TF Marvel Continuity never totally splintered off from the Marvel Universe...

...Oh right, continuity splinters! After his third attack on Cybertron in Aspects of Evil Part 5, he came back in an even smaller body to go on a shooting spree right after Peace, reuniting the warring Autobots against a common enemy, then realized Peace was just the future of Earth Force continuity and fled to Japan, where he hid inside that Beast Wars Neo toy, trapped temporarily when it was cancelled...

...but only until an all new TF comic universe came into existence for him to devour, so he came back in an even smaller form...

...Pat Lee. And this absurd ReAction figure tells the whole story, better than any "Ultimate". Well done, Super 7.

Not that I'm knocking the gun, per se. It makes more sense than that one Frieza toy that came with a machine gun.

Am I the only one who always thought The Revenge looked like it had previously doubled as Unicron's handgun, even before the combining rail gun gimmick with Kingdom Galvatron?
Okay, I'll get off this...

Dang, each new ReAction wave has even more figures I'm going to have to make exceptions for. And if I end up going back to complete earlier waves on the secondary market, ugh...
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2143961)
Posted by SpaceEagle on September 8th, 2022 @ 12:20am CDT
An interesting deep cut of a decision, and honestly I'm all for it.
Especially interesting considering the rest are based on animation models, but I guess they wanted to put the old concept out since there's already an official Unicron figure with a 'toon accurate look!
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2143964)
Posted by cloudballoon on September 8th, 2022 @ 1:16am CDT
SpaceEagle wrote:An interesting deep cut of a decision, and honestly I'm all for it.


An interesting, deep fans-service of a decision.
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2143965)
Posted by SpaceEagle on September 8th, 2022 @ 1:17am CDT
cloudballoon wrote:
SpaceEagle wrote:An interesting deep cut of a decision, and honestly I'm all for it.


An interesting, deep fans-service of a decision.

You said it better than me!
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2143967)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on September 8th, 2022 @ 1:57am CDT
FYI, Unicron's gun is based on an early concept where the figure would come with a stand that transformed into a blaster.
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2143977)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 8th, 2022 @ 4:29am CDT
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Oh you son of a bitch, I'm in!
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2143995)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on September 8th, 2022 @ 7:58am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:This is incredible but I have to admit it does feel a little off this Unicron is being done by a company that's not Hasbro.


Indeed. Still hold out the faintest hope, this Unicron will see a "release" in the G1 Reissue line, some day.
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2143997)
Posted by Emerje on September 8th, 2022 @ 8:33am CDT
Looks like I'm buying my first ReAction figure. This is the kind was weird thing I want to see Super7 doing. Now do some humans!

Emerje
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144001)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on September 8th, 2022 @ 9:00am CDT
I am mad the quintesson is not a six inch. That would have been cool. I need an inexpensive quintesson.

-Kanrabat- wrote: and almost 20$US each.

never mind then....
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144002)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on September 8th, 2022 @ 9:04am CDT
wait-WHY ISN'T JETFIRE A 6 INCH?
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144004)
Posted by Emerje on September 8th, 2022 @ 9:22am CDT
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:wait-WHY ISN'T JETFIRE A 6 INCH?

Because then he'd be the same size as Devastator and Unicron. They only reserve the 6" for the really giant characters.

Emerje
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144008)
Posted by noctorro on September 8th, 2022 @ 9:59am CDT
This is great news you guys!

Big Unicron out and about! Great Super7 (not my fav company) is doing this, hope it does well and Hasbro takes a hint.

Just Haslab the original Unicron and I think plenty of us old folk will support and buy it. This G1 Unicron, is he Titan size or smaller? If they can get big boy to be under 200 euro's it's a no brainer for me.

I will get this, it needs to happen!
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144010)
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on September 8th, 2022 @ 10:53am CDT
noctorro wrote: This G1 Unicron, is he Titan size or smaller?

Uh… he’s 6 inches tall.
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144024)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on September 8th, 2022 @ 2:28pm CDT
Decepticon Stryker wrote:
noctorro wrote: This G1 Unicron, is he Titan size or smaller?

Uh… he’s 6 inches tall.


The full quote:

noctorro wrote:Just Haslab the original Unicron and I think plenty of us old folk will support and buy it. This G1 Unicron, is he Titan size or smaller? If they can get big boy to be under 200 euro's it's a no brainer for me.



Was referring to this guy:

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Not the Super7 figure.

As far as we're aware of his intended size:

TFWiki wrote:Though the prototype had the tallest robot mode at the time of its planned release, it was ultimately shorter than Fortress Maximus.


Personally, I don't think there is a need for HasLab-Greed.

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Remaking this mold wouldn't exactly cost the Earth today. As mentioned earlier, he could easily be sold under the reissue banner in G1 packaging. For potentially the price of a Devastator boxset. As he should have been all those years ago.
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144026)
Posted by Decepticon Stryker on September 8th, 2022 @ 2:29pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Decepticon Stryker wrote:
noctorro wrote: This G1 Unicron, is he Titan size or smaller?

Uh… he’s 6 inches tall.


The full quote:

noctorro wrote:Just Haslab the original Unicron and I think plenty of us old folk will support and buy it. This G1 Unicron, is he Titan size or smaller? If they can get big boy to be under 200 euro's it's a no brainer for me.



Was referring to this guy:

Image

Not the Super7 figure.

As far as we're aware of his intended size:

TFWiki wrote:Though the prototype had the tallest robot mode at the time of its planned release, it was ultimately shorter than Fortress Maximus.


Personally, I don't think there is a need for HasLab-Greed.

Image

Remaking this mold wouldn't exactly cost the Earth today. As mentioned earlier, he could easily be sold under the reissue banner in G1 packaging. For potentially the price of a Devastator boxset. As he should have been all those years ago.

Ah, my mistake then.
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144037)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 8th, 2022 @ 3:58pm CDT
I'd cream my pants if "G1" Unicron is the next titan.

Hell, I'd do more than cream my pants. I'd bake them into a freaking wedding cake! 8-}
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144040)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on September 8th, 2022 @ 4:11pm CDT
Emerje wrote:
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:wait-WHY ISN'T JETFIRE A 6 INCH?

Because then he'd be the same size as Devastator and Unicron. They only reserve the 6" for the really giant characters.

Emerje


Are you saying devastator and unicron being the same size is good scale? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144041)
Posted by RodimusPrimeUkraine1 on September 8th, 2022 @ 4:13pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:I'd cream my pants if "G1" Unicron is the next titan.

Hell, I'd do more than cream my pants. I'd bake them into a freaking wedding cake! 8-}


Titan class is too small for unicron
and he already got the haslab, so the next unicron will probably take a while to come out officially if at all.
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144042)
Posted by transformers_va on September 8th, 2022 @ 4:31pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:I'd cream my pants if "G1" Unicron is the next titan.

Hell, I'd do more than cream my pants. I'd bake them into a freaking wedding cake! 8-}

Why? I get that it was the original prototype, but that thing is ugly as hell. Wouldn't it be better for Hasbro/Takara to focus their efforts on better toys, or improving old toys, instead?
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144043)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 8th, 2022 @ 4:40pm CDT
transformers_va wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:I'd cream my pants if "G1" Unicron is the next titan.

Hell, I'd do more than cream my pants. I'd bake them into a freaking wedding cake! 8-}

Why? I get that it was the original prototype, but that thing is ugly as hell. Wouldn't it be better for Hasbro/Takara to focus their efforts on better toys, or improving old toys, instead?


Well, because it will be different from what we usually gets.
Also, many like myself LOVES the appeal of old vintage clunky things. The price and demand of old G1 Transformers and other vintage toys is proof enough.

Be honest.
Compared to let's say Leader Earthrise Optimus Prime, the original G1 Optimus Prime is a "bad toy" (ignoring the trailer, of course.), and is basically "garbage" compared to today's standards.
But people keep buying him. Over and over. Why? It's not because it's the "better" Optimus. It's nostalgia and the vintage appeal.

I bet many TF fans who were not even alive when Beast Wars came out are now adult today and spend a fortune on G1 toys. There's also a huge market for old metal vehicles from last century.

Feel free to not like the old stuff, but I know I'm not alone in wanting "new" G1 toys like the unreleased Unicron prototype. The G1 Arcee too.
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144044)
Posted by transformers_va on September 8th, 2022 @ 4:49pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
transformers_va wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:I'd cream my pants if "G1" Unicron is the next titan.

Hell, I'd do more than cream my pants. I'd bake them into a freaking wedding cake! 8-}

Why? I get that it was the original prototype, but that thing is ugly as hell. Wouldn't it be better for Hasbro/Takara to focus their efforts on better toys, or improving old toys, instead?


Well, because it will be different from what we usually gets.
Also, many like myself LOVES the appeal of old vintage clunky things. The price and demand of old G1 Transformers and other vintage toys is proof enough.

Be honest.
Compared to let's say Leader Earthrise Optimus Prime, the original G1 Optimus Prime is a "bad toy" (ignoring the trailer, of course.), and is basically "garbage" compared to today's standards.
But people keep buying him. Over and over. Why? It's not because it's the "better" Optimus. It's nostalgia and the vintage appeal.

I bet many TF fans who were not even alive when Beast Wars came out are now adult today and spend a fortune on G1 toys. There's also a huge market for old metal vehicles from last century.

Feel free to not like the old stuff, but I know I'm not alone in wanting "new" G1 toys like the unreleased Unicron prototype. The G1 Arcee too.

If they actually produced this, my bet would be it would be a shelfwarmer. It would be geared towards a minority subset of the collector community, just like the BW characters. Personally, I'm getting sick of tired of seeing 25 Scorponoks, 40 Shadow Panthers, 30 Waspinators, etc taking up the shelves in the stores, to please the few, but don’t see better characters like Legacy Cosmos, Motormaster, Blitzwing, etc. which seem to be in higher demand.

*Edit: forgot to mention the BW reissues that are littering the shelves... every character I've seen, ends up in the clearance section, because there isn't a high demand for them...
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144045)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on September 8th, 2022 @ 5:05pm CDT
I'd definitely pick up a release of G1 Unicron and Arcee. Just because of the history behind them. But I don't think G1 Unicron was titan class. Even with a voice box.

I doubt he'd do well at retail, though. I mean there's a market for retro toys, but this isn't a regular sized toy; it's really large. I dunno if kids would want him today.
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144046)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 8th, 2022 @ 5:09pm CDT
transformers_va wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
transformers_va wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:I'd cream my pants if "G1" Unicron is the next titan.

Hell, I'd do more than cream my pants. I'd bake them into a freaking wedding cake! 8-}

Why? I get that it was the original prototype, but that thing is ugly as hell. Wouldn't it be better for Hasbro/Takara to focus their efforts on better toys, or improving old toys, instead?


Well, because it will be different from what we usually gets.
Also, many like myself LOVES the appeal of old vintage clunky things. The price and demand of old G1 Transformers and other vintage toys is proof enough.

Be honest.
Compared to let's say Leader Earthrise Optimus Prime, the original G1 Optimus Prime is a "bad toy" (ignoring the trailer, of course.), and is basically "garbage" compared to today's standards.
But people keep buying him. Over and over. Why? It's not because it's the "better" Optimus. It's nostalgia and the vintage appeal.

I bet many TF fans who were not even alive when Beast Wars came out are now adult today and spend a fortune on G1 toys. There's also a huge market for old metal vehicles from last century.

Feel free to not like the old stuff, but I know I'm not alone in wanting "new" G1 toys like the unreleased Unicron prototype. The G1 Arcee too.

If they actually produced this, my bet would be it would be a shelfwarmer. It would be geared towards a minority subset of the collector community, just like the BW characters. Personally, I'm getting sick of tired of seeing 25 Scorponoks, 40 Shadow Panthers, 30 Waspinators, etc taking up the shelves in the stores, to please the few, but don’t see better characters like Legacy Cosmos, Motormaster, Blitzwing, etc. which seem to be in higher demand.

*Edit: forgot to mention the BW reissues that are littering the shelves... every character I've seen, ends up in the clearance section, because there isn't a high demand for them...


Well, logic would dictate that it would be produced in relatively limited quantities for online stores only. He'll also be expensive as hell.
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144058)
Posted by Flashwave on September 8th, 2022 @ 6:42pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Decepticon Stryker wrote:
noctorro wrote: This G1 Unicron, is he Titan size or smaller?

Uh… he’s 6 inches tall.


The full quote:

noctorro wrote:Just Haslab the original Unicron and I think plenty of us old folk will support and buy it. This G1 Unicron, is he Titan size or smaller? If they can get big boy to be under 200 euro's it's a no brainer for me.



Was referring to this guy:

Image

Not the Super7 figure.

As far as we're aware of his intended size:

TFWiki wrote:Though the prototype had the tallest robot mode at the time of its planned release, it was ultimately shorter than Fortress Maximus.


Personally, I don't think there is a need for HasLab-Greed.

Image

Remaking this mold wouldn't exactly cost the Earth today. As mentioned earlier, he could easily be sold under the reissue banner in G1 packaging. For potentially the price of a Devastator boxset. As he should have been all those years ago.

The problem is, if not HasLab, who will Hasbro sell to? Walmart and Target have said in past they are hesitant about giant toys in niche categories, and second gen nostalgia alone won’t sell Unicron like G1 Prime. Could they do this through Selects? Could they do it through Amazon/Online Retailers? I am not sure but my gut says no. HasLab let’s them control and adjust the costs to match production run size
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144062)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on September 8th, 2022 @ 6:58pm CDT
This is really neat for those who are excited for this, but I have Christmas Prime, and he will be the only of these I get, these are just not even remotely worth it.
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:wait-WHY ISN'T JETFIRE A 6 INCH?

Because then he'd be the same size as Devastator and Unicron. They only reserve the 6" for the really giant characters.

Emerje

Are you saying devastator and unicron being the same size is good scale? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Scale matters not in this line of figures. Is it a really big character? he gets the 6" figure; otherwise, you are 3.75".
transformers_va wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
transformers_va wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:I'd cream my pants if "G1" Unicron is the next titan.

Hell, I'd do more than cream my pants. I'd bake them into a freaking wedding cake! 8-}

Why? I get that it was the original prototype, but that thing is ugly as hell. Wouldn't it be better for Hasbro/Takara to focus their efforts on better toys, or improving old toys, instead?


Well, because it will be different from what we usually gets.
Also, many like myself LOVES the appeal of old vintage clunky things. The price and demand of old G1 Transformers and other vintage toys is proof enough.

Be honest.
Compared to let's say Leader Earthrise Optimus Prime, the original G1 Optimus Prime is a "bad toy" (ignoring the trailer, of course.), and is basically "garbage" compared to today's standards.
But people keep buying him. Over and over. Why? It's not because it's the "better" Optimus. It's nostalgia and the vintage appeal.

I bet many TF fans who were not even alive when Beast Wars came out are now adult today and spend a fortune on G1 toys. There's also a huge market for old metal vehicles from last century.

Feel free to not like the old stuff, but I know I'm not alone in wanting "new" G1 toys like the unreleased Unicron prototype. The G1 Arcee too.

If they actually produced this, my bet would be it would be a shelfwarmer. It would be geared towards a minority subset of the collector community, just like the BW characters. Personally, I'm getting sick of tired of seeing 25 Scorponoks, 40 Shadow Panthers, 30 Waspinators, etc taking up the shelves in the stores, to please the few, but don’t see better characters like Legacy Cosmos, Motormaster, Blitzwing, etc. which seem to be in higher demand.

*Edit: forgot to mention the BW reissues that are littering the shelves... every character I've seen, ends up in the clearance section, because there isn't a high demand for them...

Saying the BW community is a minority like that is both pretty wrong and narrow based on your stores. Mine still have shelfwarming SS86 Blurrs, Kups, Sweeps, and Wreck Gars, and all the beasts are gone, including the walmart exclusive ones, so it's all about your specific location. Beast Wars is hardly G1 Unicron level of minority target audience.
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144063)
Posted by Flashwave on September 8th, 2022 @ 7:01pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Decepticon Stryker wrote:
noctorro wrote: This G1 Unicron, is he Titan size or smaller?

Uh… he’s 6 inches tall.


The full quote:

noctorro wrote:Just Haslab the original Unicron and I think plenty of us old folk will support and buy it. This G1 Unicron, is he Titan size or smaller? If they can get big boy to be under 200 euro's it's a no brainer for me.



Was referring to this guy:

Image

Not the Super7 figure.

As far as we're aware of his intended size:

TFWiki wrote:Though the prototype had the tallest robot mode at the time of its planned release, it was ultimately shorter than Fortress Maximus.


Personally, I don't think there is a need for HasLab-Greed.

Image

Remaking this mold wouldn't exactly cost the Earth today. As mentioned earlier, he could easily be sold under the reissue banner in G1 packaging. For potentially the price of a Devastator boxset. As he should have been all those years ago.

The problem is, if not HasLab, who will Hasbro sell to? Walmart and Target have said in past they are hesitant about giant toys in niche categories, and second gen nostalgia alone won’t sell Unicron like G1 Prime. Could they do this through Selects? Could they do it through Amazon/Online Retailers? I am not sure but my gut says no. HasLab let’s them control and adjust the costs to match production run size
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144074)
Posted by Emerje on September 8th, 2022 @ 8:50pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:
Emerje wrote:
RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:wait-WHY ISN'T JETFIRE A 6 INCH?

Because then he'd be the same size as Devastator and Unicron. They only reserve the 6" for the really giant characters.

Emerje

Are you saying devastator and unicron being the same size is good scale? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Scale matters not in this line of figures. Is it a really big character? he gets the 6" figure; otherwise, you are 3.75".

Exactly. Super7 drew a line between large characters and giant characters and it runs right between Jetfire and Devastator.

As for making G1 Unicron into a figure, while I would really like that, I don't see Hasbro doing it. There is the smaller Takara version with the stand, but that still feels out of reach.

What I would like to see is the next best thing, a non Transforming Super7 Super Cyborg version. Proportions would be good and at a reasonable size of 11".

super-7-deluxe-transformers-super-cyborg.jpg


Emerje
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144080)
Posted by Seibertron on September 8th, 2022 @ 10:30pm CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Remaking this mold wouldn't exactly cost the Earth today. As mentioned earlier, he could easily be sold under the reissue banner in G1 packaging. For potentially the price of a Devastator boxset. As he should have been all those years ago.


G1 Unicron is a big figure from that era at approximately 12 to 14 inches tall. I'm assuming brand new tooling for a figure that large with a low production run would make Unicron a much more expensive figure than a G1 reissue Devastator with existing tooling that has been around for almost 40 years (give or take with the Diaclones).

However, I would absolutely love to see a 40th, 45th, or 50th anniversary faithful reproductions of Unicron and G1 Arcee (in prototype colors and accurate colors for Arcee). Toss in some collectible G1 style'd boxes with or without windows and I'm 1000% sold. In my fantasy land where we get those at some point, I figured about $300 for a reproduction of G1 Arcee and around $500 for Unicron would be appropriate.

One day!
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144082)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on September 9th, 2022 @ 2:06am CDT
Flashwave wrote:The problem is, if not HasLab, who will Hasbro sell to? Walmart and Target have said in past they are hesitant about giant toys in niche categories, and second gen nostalgia alone won’t sell Unicron like G1 Prime. Could they do this through Selects? Could they do it through Amazon/Online Retailers? I am not sure but my gut says no. HasLab let’s them control and adjust the costs to match production run size


Well, as Walmart and Target mean nothing to anyone outside the US. I would infer G1 Unicron would be an online retail piece. In recent years, in spite of some fans wholeheartedly buying into Hasbro's line about extra engineering and parts numbers dramatically increasing price. A G1 figure is extremely basic and that excuse wouldn't really apply. They would inflate the price anyway, because Hasbro. But he realistically shouldn't be too more expensive to make or sell than G1 Devastator or any other combiner team, or City Bot.

HasLab-Greed means they can bump up the price to whatever they feel like and some will blindly throw money at it regardless.


Seibertron wrote:G1 Unicron is a big figure from that era at approximately 12 to 14 inches tall. I'm assuming brand new tooling for a figure that large with a low production run would make Unicron a much more expensive figure than a G1 reissue Devastator with existing tooling that has been around for almost 40 years (give or take with the Diaclones).

However, I would absolutely love to see a 40th, 45th, or 50th anniversary faithful reproductions of Unicron and G1 Arcee (in prototype colors and accurate colors for Arcee). Toss in some collectible G1 style'd boxes with or without windows and I'm 1000% sold. In my fantasy land where we get those at some point, I figured about $300 for a reproduction of G1 Arcee and around $500 for Unicron would be appropriate.

One day!


See but that would price G1 Arcee around the range of Masterpiece Dinobot. G1 Unicron to MP-44. Which I think would be a false equivalence. Hasbro would never honestly price either. But they could likely leave such reproductions to their lowest level designers. Who could probably finish it in a weekend.
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144083)
Posted by noctorro on September 9th, 2022 @ 2:20am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
transformers_va wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:I'd cream my pants if "G1" Unicron is the next titan.

Hell, I'd do more than cream my pants. I'd bake them into a freaking wedding cake! 8-}

Why? I get that it was the original prototype, but that thing is ugly as hell. Wouldn't it be better for Hasbro/Takara to focus their efforts on better toys, or improving old toys, instead?


Well, because it will be different from what we usually gets.
Also, many like myself LOVES the appeal of old vintage clunky things. The price and demand of old G1 Transformers and other vintage toys is proof enough.

Be honest.
Compared to let's say Leader Earthrise Optimus Prime, the original G1 Optimus Prime is a "bad toy" (ignoring the trailer, of course.), and is basically "garbage" compared to today's standards.
But people keep buying him. Over and over. Why? It's not because it's the "better" Optimus. It's nostalgia and the vintage appeal.

I bet many TF fans who were not even alive when Beast Wars came out are now adult today and spend a fortune on G1 toys. There's also a huge market for old metal vehicles from last century.

Feel free to not like the old stuff, but I know I'm not alone in wanting "new" G1 toys like the unreleased Unicron prototype. The G1 Arcee too.


Well, this.
Owh a G1 Arcee prototype stick figure would be awesome!

I think if Hasbro releases a G1 Team set (like the studio series autobot full pack) like:
G1 Sideswipe, prowl, smokescreen, optimus, ironhide, Ratchet and Megatron/Soundwave /3 seekers.
If that was released for a not insane price then it would sell.

If this prototype G1 Unicron is about the old supreme class, and considering it's simplistic engineering, it should cost around 100 euro's / 130 euro's.

Which G1 fan would not buy a fatboy G1 Unicron for only 100 usd?
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144085)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 9th, 2022 @ 4:32am CDT
noctorro wrote:
Which G1 fan would not buy a fatboy G1 Unicron for only 100 usd?


Oh, I would. But realistically speaking, I think Faticron will be titan priced due to a more limited run.
The irony is they could then repaint it a few times like they did with the original Armada mold.
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144088)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on September 9th, 2022 @ 7:12am CDT
I'd be VERY interested in a G1 Unicron. I don't know if I'd be $500 interested, but I'd definitely be into it.

I'm not sure how kid-appeal it is. But they did do retro He-Man figures lately, retro Ghostbusters, and retro TMNT sometimes, all at retail ... maybe it would sell.
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144089)
Posted by Emerje on September 9th, 2022 @ 7:55am CDT
Seibertron wrote:I figured about $300 for a reproduction of G1 Arcee and around $500 for Unicron would be appropriate.

I'm with you on Unicron since that guy would definitely have to be a HasLab project and probably require a lower target number than Selects Unicron so the higher price would be needed to offset that.

But for Arcee, she'd be a pretty small figure, I wouldn't want her any bigger than than G1 Hot Rod, Kup, and Blurr. The benefit is that they could probably get a retailer like Walmart involved like with previous reissues, especially if it coincides with a movie that features Arcee and is in G1 style packaging. Add Takara Tomy to the mix and the price could be under $50. Hey, if Walmart is willing to accept an entirely remade Rattrap then his aunt Arcee should be no problem, too. ;)

Emerje
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144095)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on September 9th, 2022 @ 8:57am CDT
OK, here's something not many of you may think about when it comes to G1 prototypes: do they have any permanent molds or masters with which to work from? As I understand, those are made when a figure is greenlit for mass-production, so any design rejected before that stage would literally have nothing. :-?
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144101)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 9th, 2022 @ 9:31am CDT
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:OK, here's something not many of you may think about when it comes to G1 prototypes: do they have any permanent molds or masters with which to work from? As I understand, those are made when a figure is greenlit for mass-production, so any design rejected before that stage would literally have nothing. :-?

I do think we all understand that any prototype would have its mold made from scratch. So if they decide to mass produce the th8ng, I wouldn't mind some more repaints.
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144146)
Posted by Emerje on September 9th, 2022 @ 8:12pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:OK, here's something not many of you may think about when it comes to G1 prototypes: do they have any permanent molds or masters with which to work from? As I understand, those are made when a figure is greenlit for mass-production, so any design rejected before that stage would literally have nothing. :-?

I do think we all understand that any prototype would have its mold made from scratch. So if they decide to mass produce the th8ng, I wouldn't mind some more repaints.

Yeah, I even mentioned it at the end of my post. I don't think that's an obstacle.

Emerje
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144190)
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on September 10th, 2022 @ 4:23am CDT
That [500] is a crazy sum for G1 Unicron and anyone would be a fool to pay it. It wouldn't cost them anywhere near that to produce from scratch in 2022. Looking at it: the head pops up/down. The arms fold open to be the planet rings (don't assume that shoulder joints would move) and the legs (don't assume they move either) ratchet down from within the hollow planet body. One final flourish would seem to be an extra ratchet in the planet for his bot waist.
That is a guestimate of less than five step transformation. The size of him might add some cost in raw materials. But he isn't an expensive piece of engineering.

Beast Wars Neo Unicron, on the other hand, would be pricey to reproduce from scratch.
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144196)
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 10th, 2022 @ 8:36am CDT
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:That [500] is a crazy sum for G1 Unicron and anyone would be a fool to pay it. It wouldn't cost them anywhere near that to produce from scratch in 2022. Looking at it: the head pops up/down. The arms fold open to be the planet rings (don't assume that shoulder joints would move) and the legs (don't assume they move either) ratchet down from within the hollow planet body. One final flourish would seem to be an extra ratchet in the planet for his bot waist.
That is a guestimate of less than five step transformation. The size of him might add some cost in raw materials. But he isn't an expensive piece of engineering.

Beast Wars Neo Unicron, on the other hand, would be pricey to reproduce from scratch.

I bet there would be more then enough people willing to pay that price. If they did it, it'd easily be a limited product to like say a 1000 pieces, they would sell out quickly.
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144199)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 10th, 2022 @ 8:52am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I bet there would be more then enough people willing to pay that price. If they did it, it'd easily be a limited product to like say a 1000 pieces, they would sell out quickly.


Best case scenario would be mass produced like a normal Titan with a normal Titan price and make it NON exclusive. This way, scalpers will be screwed and everyone will have a chance.
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144200)
Posted by ZeroWolf on September 10th, 2022 @ 9:07am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I bet there would be more then enough people willing to pay that price. If they did it, it'd easily be a limited product to like say a 1000 pieces, they would sell out quickly.


Best case scenario would be mass produced like a normal Titan with a normal Titan price and make it NON exclusive. This way, scalpers will be screwed and everyone will have a chance.

Yeah, thats not going to happen I'm afraid. I think Seibertron had it right on the money.

Still, I maintain that even at $500 they'd sell out
Re: New Images and Preorders Live for ReAction Transformers Arcee, Grimlock, Prowl and Reflector (2144205)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on September 10th, 2022 @ 10:01am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I bet there would be more then enough people willing to pay that price. If they did it, it'd easily be a limited product to like say a 1000 pieces, they would sell out quickly.


Best case scenario would be mass produced like a normal Titan with a normal Titan price and make it NON exclusive. This way, scalpers will be screwed and everyone will have a chance.

Yeah, thats not going to happen I'm afraid. I think Seibertron had it right on the money.

Still, I maintain that even at $500 they'd sell out


Well, I think this also could be a very nice HASLAB project. And depending of the target number, I'm sure that price could be toned down by more than half.

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