Next Transformers Fans First Friday on February 4th

Maybe more Decepticons for the Legacy line?

Or maybe it will finally reveal something planned for the Armada tenth anniversary!

I am looking forward to see a new selects figure. Then for them ramble for 40 mins about the 86 movie again because they won't let it die. Lastly to end with a recap of the shattered glass line.

TulioDude wrote:Maybe more Decepticons for the Legacy line?

Or maybe it will finally reveal something planned for the Armada tenth anniversary!

Surely you mean.... 20th!!!! anniversary. We got a single nod to R.I.D for its 20th, and we know we are getting an Armada Starscream in Voyager size class.

The only other thing that would make sense for the 20th, would be Prime, and we know we ain't getting that. Maybe another repaint of Siege Megs in Armada colors.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:-Hasbro teases a very Con-heavy reveal event
-The leaked wave breakdown for Legacy Wave 2 is all Cons except for Elita-1

Who was leaked to be in wave two again? I forget the wave breakdowns.

Cores: Shockwave, G2 Megatron, Optimus repack, Iguanus repack
Deluxes: Elita-1, Tarantulas, Wildrider, Knockout
Voyagers: Jhiaxus, Soundwave (which Soundwave is still unclear)
Leader: Blitzwing

Thanks. I'm probably only interested in Tarantulas, but it'll be interesting to see how all these turn out (if this is what's getting revealed).

I know some commentary was made regarding the last couple of TF FFF about how Hasbro has been transitioning towards more of an Entertainment company as opposed to just a toy company, and those comments are fair points. However there is new leadership now, and most of the non-toy items (mobile games, other miscellaneous items) have fallen flat. So hopefully this FFF will get back to basics and just focus on toys.

Also hopefully , they wont spend a lot of time retreading old news. We know Legacy Wave 1 and the first SS wave for 2022 are imminent, as well as that overly priced remote control Optimus Prime. No need to rehash old news.

We know Diaclone Bluestreak, BW Buzzsaw, BW Nightprowler, and BW Sandstorm already have leaked reviews. So as to whether these are Selects, or retailer exclusives, I imagine we will find out. Hopefully wave 2 of Legacy, and the next wave of SS overall will get reveals as well. That's probably too much to hope for, but considering, once upon a time, Toy Fair would show us 6 months (or roughly 2 waves) worth of product at least, I know it can be done.

I'd be interested in seeing Commander class Motormaster, and a hint at how big/sturdy the upcoming Mensasor combiner might be. I think most collectors agree that CW Menasor was a floppy disappointment.

Overcracker wrote:

TulioDude wrote:Maybe more Decepticons for the Legacy line?

Or maybe it will finally reveal something planned for the Armada tenth anniversary!

Surely you mean.... 20th!!!! anniversary. We got a single nod to R.I.D for its 20th, and we know we are getting an Armada Starscream in Voyager size class.

You're right,my bad.The hype is too big!

The only other thing that would make sense for the 20th, would be Prime, and we know we ain't getting that. Maybe another repaint of Siege Megs in Armada colors.

I wouldn't mind some of the Decepticons getting some love too,like Cyclonus or Demolisher.

o.supreme wrote:I know some commentary was made regarding the last couple of TF FFF about how Hasbro has been transitioning towards more of an Entertainment company as opposed to just a toy company, and those comments are fair points. However there is new leadership now, and most of the non-toy items (mobile games, other miscellaneous items) have fallen flat. So hopefully this FFF will get back to basics and just focus on toys.

Also hopefully , they wont spend a lot of time retreading old news. We know Legacy Wave 1 and the first SS wave for 2022 are imminent, as well as that overly priced remote control Optimus Prime. No need to rehash old news.

We know Diaclone Bluestreak, BW Buzzsaw, BW Nightprowler, and BW Sandstorm already have leaked reviews. So as to whether these are Selects, or retailer exclusives, I imagine we will find out. Hopefully wave 2 of Legacy, and the next wave of SS overall will get reveals as well. That's probably too much to hope for, but considering, once upon a time, Toy Fair would show us 6 months (or roughly 2 waves) worth of product at least, I know it can be done.

I agree with just about all your points, and you share my hopes for this FFF. But knowing the entire last year’s worth of FFF’s, this one will likely rehash every single thing you just mentioned in hopes to pan out the time.

I know I've said this before, but...Me Grimlock want to see Sludge.

Honestly, with all the talk of price increases (even the PotP increase stings for me, and that was years ago!) I've convinced myself that if it's not a Dinobot, I ain't getting it.

There are several people like that. Some are still going for the whole line. But some are widdling their lists down, and specific characters to check off are becoming fewer and far between. One SS Leader Dinobot per year definitely takes patience. But it took 2 years to complete RotF Devastator, and I'm all in on MPG Raiden, so yeah, it's going to be a long haul for many of us.

Late 2020 SS86 Grimlock
Late 2021 SS86 Slag
*Assuming Late 2022 SS86 Sludge

*if"Hasbro makes Swoop a large Voyager we could conceivably get the last two Dinobots in 2023... only time will tell. By then Voyagers will probably cost almost $40 USD...the same as what a Leader cost during CW/TR...

Overcracker wrote:The only other thing that would make sense for the 20th, would be Prime, and we know we ain't getting that. Maybe another repaint of Siege Megs in Armada colors.

What makes you say that we aren't getting a Prime? I vividly remember this bad boy previewed next to Star Convoy. They've obviously been waiting for the 20 year anniversary. Why else would they sit on it for THREE WHOLE YEARS!

There is surely still hope for this figure coming out, right guys? You're not telling me to give up on this seeing the light of day are you?

o.supreme wrote:There are several people like that. Some are still going for the whole line. But some are widdling their lists down, and specific characters to check off are becoming fewer and far between. One SS Leader Dinobot per year definitely takes patience. But it took 2 years to complete RotF Devastator, and I'm all in on MPG Raiden, so yeah, it's going to be a long haul for many of us.

Late 2020 SS86 Grimlock
Late 2021 SS86 Slag
*Assuming Late 2022 SS86 Sludge

*if"Hasbro makes Swoop a large Voyager we could conceivably get the last two Dinobots in 2023... only time will tell. By then Voyagers will probably cost almost $40 USD...the same as what a Leader cost during CW/TR...

If having Swoop be a leader means I need to wait an extra year, then so be it. I'm in no rush for mediocrity. I don't see how a voyager could work without some sacrifices few of us would stand for.

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:There are several people like that. Some are still going for the whole line. But some are widdling their lists down, and specific characters to check off are becoming fewer and far between. One SS Leader Dinobot per year definitely takes patience. But it took 2 years to complete RotF Devastator, and I'm all in on MPG Raiden, so yeah, it's going to be a long haul for many of us.

Late 2020 SS86 Grimlock
Late 2021 SS86 Slag
*Assuming Late 2022 SS86 Sludge

*if"Hasbro makes Swoop a large Voyager we could conceivably get the last two Dinobots in 2023... only time will tell. By then Voyagers will probably cost almost $40 USD...the same as what a Leader cost during CW/TR...

If having Swoop be a leader means I need to wait an extra year, then so be it. I'm in no rush for mediocrity. I don't see how a voyager could work without some sacrifices few of us would stand for.

I agree… Although if he’s just slightly shorter than the rest, I could be okay with that.
But regular voyager height will be a ginormous letdown.
Before, I caved to others saying, “Look at character model charts”.
But at this point I don’t care about that; when I stand OP next the Grimlock & think, “Would it look weird if Swoop was only this tall?”.
Absolutely. It will really look like some crazy mistake.

Here’s why I have hope he’ll be leader class:
Even if he’s slightly shorter than the others, he could still be substantially larger than regular voyagers.
He shouldn’t require intricate engineering, even if they do a good job of articulation with his wings.
Just because he’s taller than a normal voyager doesn’t mean he has to be super bulky. Even with large wings & missiles… He shouldn’t use more plastic than the others.
Then stop & think that Hastak would sell this guy for $55+ per figure instead of $35+.
Imo making him a voyager seems like a loss for everyone.

What I’m hoping for in terms of the release:
Swoop is leader class for SS86 in early 2023.
Snarl is in the mainline mid to late 2023.

Lucky Logician wrote:

Overcracker wrote:The only other thing that would make sense for the 20th, would be Prime, and we know we ain't getting that. Maybe another repaint of Siege Megs in Armada colors.

What makes you say that we aren't getting a Prime? I vividly remember this bad boy previewed next to Star Convoy. They've obviously been waiting for the 20 year anniversary. Why else would they sit on it for THREE WHOLE YEARS!

There is surely still hope for this figure coming out, right guys? You're not telling me to give up on this seeing the light of day are you?

Takara hasn't put it out yet because they've opted not to. It's been put into developmental limbo indefinitely.

TulioDude wrote:Maybe more Decepticons for the Legacy line?

Looking at past FFF, it will probably be wave 2 of Legacy which does have lots of Decepticons.

Also further proof that this won't be about the ROTB toyline as there are no Decepticons in that toyline. They may give us a first look at things though, like concept art, could be fun.

william-james88 wrote:If having Swoop be a leader means I need to wait an extra year, then so be it. I'm in no rush for mediocrity.

This makes perfect sense. I really had no strong opinion one way or the other, I was just reiterating what I had heard from others. It seems just as many people feel as you do WJ, and that is cool. I've been watching a LOT of videos online. Long time Star Wars, Marvel Legends, TF fans etc... are more and more in it for the long waiting game, maybe only getting a couple of figures per year that are on their personal *want lists*, as opposed to whole waves or lines.

That isn't to say that some people wont be all in on Legacy, or SS but I've just been preparing myself to be more focused on my spending and to go perhaps many months between purchases. It seems others are as well.

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:If having Swoop be a leader means I need to wait an extra year, then so be it. I'm in no rush for mediocrity.

I hear that. I'll wait for quality work. Though, I can see a voyager Swoop being tolerable, because of the wingspan factor. Wingfinger was a Deluxe with almost no heft to him - a skinny little stringbean. But somehow, it looks bigger simply because the wings spread out so wide. If half of each of Swoop's wings wind up being just 3 inches, then each outspread wing would be six inches - making the wingspan at least a foot wide, not including any of the body parts between the wings. That would be a lot of shelf space, even for a voyager. Visually, that would make Swoop appear larger than Grimlock or Slag. Kind of like how Batman flares his cape to make himself seem more impressive than he actually is....

I hope we see more Legacy reveals. Like a Stunticon or two.

Overcracker wrote: We got a single nod to R.I.D for its 20th, and we know we are getting an Armada Starscream in Voyager size class.

Thinking about it,Scourge being a black truck in Rise of the Beasts counts as nod too,right?

william-james88 wrote:
Also further proof that this won't be about the ROTB toyline as there are no Decepticons in that toyline. They may give us a first look at things though, like concept art, could be fun.

To be fair,they kind set themselves up for movie related news expectations.The film is called Rise of the Beasts and the first words in the facebook post is "RISE UP!"

TulioDude wrote:

Overcracker wrote: We got a single nod to R.I.D for its 20th, and we know we are getting an Armada Starscream in Voyager size class.

Thinking about it,Scourge being a black truck in Rise of the Beasts counts as nod too,right?

william-james88 wrote:
Also further proof that this won't be about the ROTB toyline as there are no Decepticons in that toyline. They may give us a first look at things though, like concept art, could be fun.

To be fair,they kind set themselves up for movie related news expectations.The film is called Rise of the Beasts and the first words in the facebook post is "RISE UP!"

That's just an unlucky coincidence. Rise Up is the Decepticon version of Roll Out