Paramount Transformers Universe Adds More Writers: Christina Hodson and Lindsey Beer

I'm glad they're building a writers room and one that includes women. I found the previous lot pretty exploitative and the last one's female character was just awful so hopefully their input will help in that area too besides that thing known as a plot.

I care more if they're good writers or not than what genitals they have.

Optimum Supreme wrote:I care more if they're good writers or not than what genitals they have.

I mostly agree. Woman sometimes have a different writing style, and it's always nice to provide equal opportunity. But in the end I hope all of these writers deliver great quality work

The writer doesn't matter to me too much. The worst writer in the world could make a hit with the right subject, so to me, you can never really know. There have been amazing writers who wrote very bad stories and vice versa.
I do like the diversity though. lets get some new opinions!

Want it done right?, get rid of Bay.........and hire the idw guys to formulate a good story and good characters.

Dont be fooled, we will get more of the same..........when movies like this make stupid money, they wont change much. I think 4 movies of nothingness is proof enough.

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:Want it done right?, get rid of Bay.........and hire the idw guys to formulate a good story and good characters.

Dont be fooled, we will get more of the same..........when movies like this make stupid money, they wont change much. I think 4 movies of nothingness is proof enough.

Well say good bye to IDW comics then.



You realize they can't work on movies and an ongoing comic book series at the same time right?

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:Want it done right?, get rid of Bay.........and hire the idw guys to formulate a good story and good characters.

Dont be fooled, we will get more of the same..........when movies like this make stupid money, they wont change much. I think 4 movies of nothingness is proof enough.

Well say good bye to IDW comics then.



You realize they can't work on movies and an ongoing comic book series at the same time right?

I'd rather have the comics than the movies.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:

Mr_Autobot411 wrote:Want it done right?, get rid of Bay.........and hire the idw guys to formulate a good story and good characters.

Dont be fooled, we will get more of the same..........when movies like this make stupid money, they wont change much. I think 4 movies of nothingness is proof enough.

Well say good bye to IDW comics then.



You realize they can't work on movies and an ongoing comic book series at the same time right?

doesnt have to be comic related, maybe do their own version......but forget i brought it up cuz it aint happening lol

You say get rid of Bay and hire different writers, wouldn't you want to get rid of the current writer first?

It's always Bay Bay Bay with you "Bayformer haters", but rarely do I encounter someone who acknowledges the writer is more to blame.

Writers in Hollywood these days actually have very little power. They have to cater to the demands/requirements of the directors, who decide what they want in their movies beforehand, and then hire writers to string their concepts together... that was more evident than ever in the last Transformers movie.

Not saying that the writer doesn't hold some responsibility over the script, but even a beautiful, vivid painting will look like crap if viewed through stained, cracked smoked glass.

Scripts are written to the specifications of the other crew, like the director and producers. And then, when filming, a director chooses how they want to film the scene; what they want to emphasize, where objects are placed, the framing, how things pan, how wide or narrow the focus is, and they tell that to the director of photography this and then they and their crew make it actually happen. The director usually has chief creative control over most aspects of the movie, which is why they are top billed. Obviously there's some exceptions, but that's the situation in the majority of cases, from my understanding of film.

Burn wrote:You say get rid of Bay and hire different writers, wouldn't you want to get rid of the current writer first?

It's always Bay Bay Bay with you "Bayformer haters", but rarely do I encounter someone who acknowledges the writer is more to blame.

I'll say this much on the matter. Bay might not be solely to blame, but he is more or less one of the main causes. Frankly, Spielberg, the writers, the military, even Paramount itself...they all played a part in the kind of TF movies we got since ROTF.

Spielberg: Roped Bay in to directing Transformers in 2007, despite Bay's self-consciousness and undisguised dislike of the TF franchise. Bay was just following orders without passion or enthusiasm when filming the first movie, and did it for the paychecks in the following ones.

Military: They know Bay makes them look good, and are willing to exchange their cooperation and free manpower for looking good in his movies. That's partly the reason why the Decepticons look like incompetent chumps while the army can seemingly kickass all on their own without the Autobots doing much.

Paramount: While perfectly understandable, they won't want to change a thing as long as TF movies still make a decent buck. While they don't make as many ticket sales in the US, China has become their new target audience, which keeps the wheels spinning.

Bay: I used to loathe him. But now, I just feel bad for him (or rather, I would if the lucky bast@rd didn't make so much money). He never wanted to make these TF movies, and he still doesn't. Poor f**ker's just doing his job (though I wish he'd stop), and if the critics had little respect for him before, they have even less respect for him now.

And as of AoE, he's showing signs of creative exhaustion. Despite the explosions and the flashy cars, it's just feels hollow.

Writers: Part of the cause lies with Bay's attitude towards the TF movies, which "infects" the mindset of the writers. Kruger made it pretty clear in his infamous "you make your peace with the fact that logic isn't the be all end all" line. If the director doesn't take a movie's universe seriously, the rest will start asking themselves, "why should we?"

That said, it's no excuse to slack off just because the director does.

TL;DR, Bay is indeed responsible for a lot of the things that are wrong with the TF movies, but circumstances and higher ups are equally to blame.

JazZeke wrote:Writers in Hollywood these days actually have very little power. They have to cater to the demands/requirements of the directors, who decide what they want in their movies beforehand, and then hire writers to string their concepts together... that was more evident than ever in the last Transformers movie.

You base this paragraph on what?

Hopefully the designs will improve.AOE Optimus has a good concept with a "less than great,but still all right" feel to the design.

Also, please hire a writer that can actually make a great story.New designers who can actually impress also should be taken into consideration.There is a reason why some people call "bayformers" terrible and ugly( not that I agree with them,but I strongly feel that the designs need to improve).

I wonder...will this ensure that the future films will have strong female roles in which the characters are not heavily sexualized? Nah.

Wow she looks good.

And now the films will be lauded as masterpieces of cinema and tentpegs for female representation in the film industry, even if they turn out exactly the same as the other ones.

In all seriousness, I've nothing against new writers, female OR male. I just don't have a lot of hope for the films in general.

Rated X wrote:Wow she looks good.

Madeus Prime wrote:

Rated X wrote:Wow she looks good.

Keep on chugging, X.

Doing another Fugitive, eh? I donno.... the 1993 version pretty much nailed it.

But unless the writers totally reboot the movies and broom everything that Michael Bay ever had to do with any of them, they're still going to be mediocre at best, and most likely sukky. We have intelligence guided by experience that tells us this.