Possible Transformers: The Last Knight MPM Optimus Prime Render
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Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on February 28th, 2017 @ 8:59am CST
Va'al wrote:A reminder: the Movie Masterpiece figures are new molds meant to replicate the 'best' incarnation of the live action movieverse, and there are three expected with the new film: Optimus, Bumblebee (seen already) and the rumoured Barricade.
So, an even more movie accurate figure of Optimus Prime? I'd like to see Takara top that. (As an undeniable fact, the ROTF Leader Optimus Prime mold is the most screen accurate representation of Optimus.)
Posted by dragons on February 28th, 2017 @ 9:13am CST
Posted by Bumblebee21 on February 28th, 2017 @ 9:14am CST
dragons wrote:To bad these figures don't transform
??
but they do
Posted by Overcracker on February 28th, 2017 @ 9:30am CST
dragons wrote:To bad these figures don't transform
Who says they don't?
At least as far as Bumblebee goes, we know he does.
No reason to think Prime and Barricade won't transform.
Posted by Jones on February 28th, 2017 @ 9:31am CST
I'm sure they technically CAN top this, but I'm not sure how...
Posted by william-james88 on February 28th, 2017 @ 9:34am CST
Posted by YRQRM0 on February 28th, 2017 @ 9:49am CST
Posted by Evil Eye on February 28th, 2017 @ 9:50am CST
william-james88 wrote:feeling retrojipped alredy as I prepaid for the upcoming MB11 leader.
At the risk of rubbing salt in the wound, it's even more of a jip considering how degraded the molds are at this point (at least if the last release of ROTF Leader Prime is anything to go by).
Posted by MrBlack on February 28th, 2017 @ 10:04am CST
I might consider Optimus, but I much prefer the Evasion Mode look to his early movie incarnation.
Posted by It Is Him on February 28th, 2017 @ 10:16am CST
1. Having to literally pop off the chest, which isn't listed in the manual as a step, is the worst.
2. "I am Optimus Prime."
3. The swords won't allow the elbows to bend when retracted
4. "I am Optimus Prime"
5. Folding the arms and the sword and legs into the cab nose requires very specific steps, and are very easy to do incorrectly, forcing you to redo that section.
6. "I am Optimus Prime"
7. He doesn't transform into an ice cream truck
8. "I am Optimus Prime"
Bring on the new hotness
Posted by Actar on February 28th, 2017 @ 10:27am CST
It Is Him wrote:Let's be honest, ROTF Leader Prime suffers from a terrible transformation
1. Having to literally pop off the chest, which isn't listed in the manual as a step, is the worst.
2. "I am Optimus Prime."
3. The swords won't allow the elbows to bend when retracted
4. "I am Optimus Prime"
5. Folding the arms and the sword and legs into the cab nose requires very specific steps, and are very easy to do incorrectly, forcing you to redo that section.
6. "I am Optimus Prime"
7. He doesn't transform into an ice cream truck
8. "I am Optimus Prime"
Bring on the new hotness
I disagree. All of these issues (save the ones regarding the swords) are due to crappy instructions. I can easily transform ROTF Prime under two minutes without a single "I am Optimus Prime" by simply completing the cab section first and securing the head into place. It's a beautiful transformation that's a marvel of engineering.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrnfw1XgVRA
And that is why I'm so excited for the MPM. It's going to be even better, more complex and more accurate.
Posted by Microraptor on February 28th, 2017 @ 11:09am CST
Posted by Va'al on February 28th, 2017 @ 12:27pm CST
Posted by Bumblebee21 on February 28th, 2017 @ 12:31pm CST
Va'al wrote:A thread for each MPM figure!
what sorcery is this
Posted by Overcracker on February 28th, 2017 @ 12:48pm CST
Since MPM prime is going to be based off of Prime's ROTF / DOTM look and not AOE or TLK, will this MP version be different or more accurate enough to warrant a new purchase.
I do have Takara's Movie The Best Leader Prime on pre-order, so I'm just wondering whether MPM will be worth the inevitably higher price tag and if it will be a wide release, or will it only be available through Toys R' US or something equally annoying in North America.
Posted by Bumblebee21 on February 28th, 2017 @ 12:52pm CST
Overcracker wrote:I guess the real question is going to be, how different will the MPM Prime be from the ROTF / DOTM Primes.
Since MPM prime is going to be based off of Prime's ROTF / DOTM look and not AOE or TLK, will this MP version be different or more accurate enough to warrant a new purchase.
I do have Takara's Movie The Best Leader Prime on pre-order, so I'm just wondering whether MPM will be worth the inevitably higher price tag and if it will be a wide release, or will it only be available through Toys R' US or something equally annoying in North America.
gonna be based on movie 1 prime
Posted by Va'al on February 28th, 2017 @ 12:54pm CST
Bumblebee21 wrote:Va'al wrote:A thread for each MPM figure!
what sorcery is this
Posted by Overcracker on February 28th, 2017 @ 1:26pm CST
Bumblebee21 wrote:Overcracker wrote:I guess the real question is going to be, how different will the MPM Prime be from the ROTF / DOTM Primes.
Since MPM prime is going to be based off of Prime's ROTF / DOTM look and not AOE or TLK, will this MP version be different or more accurate enough to warrant a new purchase.
I do have Takara's Movie The Best Leader Prime on pre-order, so I'm just wondering whether MPM will be worth the inevitably higher price tag and if it will be a wide release, or will it only be available through Toys R' US or something equally annoying in North America.
gonna be based on movie 1 prime
Where are you getting that from?
Va'al wrote:the Movie Masterpiece figures are new molds meant to replicate the 'best' incarnation of the live action movieverse, and there are three expected with the new film
It's the best incarnation is not necessarily the first movie.
But broadly speaking his on screen look in the first movie and ROTF and DOTM is pretty much the same bar a few minor modifications.
DOTM I think is the best though.
Posted by Sigma Magnus on February 28th, 2017 @ 1:32pm CST
Posted by Evil Eye on February 28th, 2017 @ 1:46pm CST
Actar wrote:It Is Him wrote:Let's be honest, ROTF Leader Prime suffers from a terrible transformation
1. Having to literally pop off the chest, which isn't listed in the manual as a step, is the worst.
2. "I am Optimus Prime."
3. The swords won't allow the elbows to bend when retracted
4. "I am Optimus Prime"
5. Folding the arms and the sword and legs into the cab nose requires very specific steps, and are very easy to do incorrectly, forcing you to redo that section.
6. "I am Optimus Prime"
7. He doesn't transform into an ice cream truck
8. "I am Optimus Prime"
Bring on the new hotness
I disagree. All of these issues (save the ones regarding the swords) are due to crappy instructions. I can easily transform ROTF Prime under two minutes without a single "I am Optimus Prime" by simply completing the cab section first and securing the head into place. It's a beautiful transformation that's a marvel of engineering.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrnfw1XgVRA
And that is why I'm so excited for the MPM. It's going to be even better, more complex and more accurate.
Holy crap, I never knew Actar posted here! *Cue Wayne's World "We're not worthy!" routine*
Ahem.
Anyway, I can't wait to see the MPM Prime- the thought of the gorgeous ROTF Leader Prime mold (which I must buy a version of some day) with the "kid gloves" removed and a full-on MP treatment (proper hands, no voicebox in the chest etc) makes me drool. Imagine the engineering that will be going into that thing!
Posted by SpaceKaseJase on February 28th, 2017 @ 2:24pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on February 28th, 2017 @ 2:41pm CST
Overcracker wrote:or will it only be available through Toys R' US or something equally annoying in North America.
The TRU listings had it marked down as an exclusive (which doesnt surprise me, they have the MP exclusives ever since the relaunch of the MP line)
Posted by Bumblebee21 on February 28th, 2017 @ 2:45pm CST
Overcracker wrote:Bumblebee21 wrote:Overcracker wrote:I guess the real question is going to be, how different will the MPM Prime be from the ROTF / DOTM Primes.
Since MPM prime is going to be based off of Prime's ROTF / DOTM look and not AOE or TLK, will this MP version be different or more accurate enough to warrant a new purchase.
I do have Takara's Movie The Best Leader Prime on pre-order, so I'm just wondering whether MPM will be worth the inevitably higher price tag and if it will be a wide release, or will it only be available through Toys R' US or something equally annoying in North America.
gonna be based on movie 1 prime
Where are you getting that from?
the fact that bee is movie 1 and i really want him to be movie 1
Posted by Va'al on February 28th, 2017 @ 2:45pm CST
Sigma Magnus wrote:Link to the other threads please?
Only other one active for now: transformers-movie-masterpiece-mpm3-bumblebee-thread-t108751.php
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on February 28th, 2017 @ 2:56pm CST
Posted by Sigmus Prime on February 28th, 2017 @ 2:56pm CST
As somebody who's never owned any of the Leader Prime molds aside from AD-31 (which I kinda regret selling at this point), I highly anticipate this figure.
Posted by Overcracker on February 28th, 2017 @ 3:18pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Overcracker wrote:or will it only be available through Toys R' US or something equally annoying in North America.
The TRU listings had it marked down as an exclusive (which doesnt surprise me, they have the MP exclusives ever since the relaunch of the MP line)
Why am I not surprised? Augh!.
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on February 28th, 2017 @ 4:48pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on February 28th, 2017 @ 9:35pm CST
Jeddostotle7 wrote:Don't forget that this figure might not just be better engineered and designed, but also larger than ROTF, because it'll be in Masterpiece scale like MPM-3 BB is (~1/32), which I think the ROTF Optimus mold might be a bit too short for.
It's the reverse, ROTF will be the bigger one. Hasbro and Takara both stated that this MPM line s supposed to mirror the scale of the MP line, so carbots are the same size and so are Faction Leaders. So since BB is made to be the same size as MP Sideswipe and Wheeljack, MPM Optimus should be the same size as MP Optimus.
So shorter than the ROTF mold
Which makes sense since MPM Optimus is only $20 more than MPM BB, cant be that much taller.
Posted by Ironhidensh on February 28th, 2017 @ 9:39pm CST
Posted by Sigmus Prime on February 28th, 2017 @ 9:45pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Jeddostotle7 wrote:Which makes sense since MPM Optimus is only $20 more than MPM BB, cant be that much taller.
And MPM Bee is only $100, correct?
Posted by Bumblebee21 on February 28th, 2017 @ 9:46pm CST
Sigmus Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:Jeddostotle7 wrote:Which makes sense since MPM Optimus is only $20 more than MPM BB, cant be that much taller.
And MPM Bee is only $100, correct?
80
Posted by Sigmus Prime on February 28th, 2017 @ 9:48pm CST
Bumblebee21 wrote:Sigmus Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:Jeddostotle7 wrote:Which makes sense since MPM Optimus is only $20 more than MPM BB, cant be that much taller.
And MPM Bee is only $100, correct?
80
Jeez... these two will actually be affordable. I was expecting to pay upwards of $180 for Prime alone (didn't notice the price on the listing screenshot). Awesome!
Posted by william-james88 on February 28th, 2017 @ 9:52pm CST
Sigmus Prime wrote:Bumblebee21 wrote:Sigmus Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:Jeddostotle7 wrote:Which makes sense since MPM Optimus is only $20 more than MPM BB, cant be that much taller.
And MPM Bee is only $100, correct?
80
Jeez... these two will actually be affordable. I was expecting to pay upwards of $180 for Prime alone (didn't notice the price on the listing screenshot). Awesome!
Its because he doesnt come with a trailer and a ton of accessories, unlike MP 10.
Bumblebee is also bare of accessories. Instead he has built in features (which I am all for).
So 80 and 100 makes sense.
Posted by Sigmus Prime on February 28th, 2017 @ 9:56pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Sigmus Prime wrote:Bumblebee21 wrote:Sigmus Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:Jeddostotle7 wrote:Which makes sense since MPM Optimus is only $20 more than MPM BB, cant be that much taller.
And MPM Bee is only $100, correct?
80
Jeez... these two will actually be affordable. I was expecting to pay upwards of $180 for Prime alone (didn't notice the price on the listing screenshot). Awesome!
Its because he doesnt come with a trailer and a ton of accessories, unlike MP 10.
Bumblebee is also bare of accessories. Instead he has built in features (which I am all for).
So 80 and 100 makes sense.
No, you're right - just didn't occur to me. And yeah, Bee having incorporated gear is perfectly fine with me.
I am hoping Prime comes with all or most of the weapons he used in the first movie, which I don't think was that many to begin with.
Posted by Bumblebee21 on February 28th, 2017 @ 9:59pm CST
Sigmus Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:Sigmus Prime wrote:Bumblebee21 wrote:Sigmus Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:Jeddostotle7 wrote:Which makes sense since MPM Optimus is only $20 more than MPM BB, cant be that much taller.
And MPM Bee is only $100, correct?
80
Jeez... these two will actually be affordable. I was expecting to pay upwards of $180 for Prime alone (didn't notice the price on the listing screenshot). Awesome!
Its because he doesnt come with a trailer and a ton of accessories, unlike MP 10.
Bumblebee is also bare of accessories. Instead he has built in features (which I am all for).
So 80 and 100 makes sense.
No, you're right - just didn't occur to me. Though I am hoping Prime comes with all or most of the weapons he used in the first movie, which I don't think was that many to begin with.
yeah o think he just had a gun and maybe an axe or sword
Posted by Jeddostotle7 on February 28th, 2017 @ 10:32pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Jeddostotle7 wrote:Don't forget that this figure might not just be better engineered and designed, but also larger than ROTF, because it'll be in Masterpiece scale like MPM-3 BB is (~1/32), which I think the ROTF Optimus mold might be a bit too short for.
It's the reverse, ROTF will be the bigger one. Hasbro and Takara both stated that this MPM line s supposed to mirror the scale of the MP line, so carbots are the same size and so are Faction Leaders. So since BB is made to be the same size as MP Sideswipe and Wheeljack, MPM Optimus should be the same size as MP Optimus.
So shorter than the ROTF mold
Which makes sense since MPM Optimus is only $20 more than MPM BB, cant be that much taller.
Actually, you're right, at least for movie 1-3 Prime. I was just thinking that, because MP-10 Optimus' height in-scale is 25.7' (up to the ears), that MPM Optimus would be taller, because I was thinking he was 32' tall. However, that is his height in AoE; in Movie 1-DOTM, he's only 28'.
Posted by Sigmus Prime on March 1st, 2017 @ 12:18am CST
Bumblebee21 wrote:Sigmus Prime wrote:No, you're right - just didn't occur to me. Though I am hoping Prime comes with all or most of the weapons he used in the first movie, which I don't think was that many to begin with.
yeah o think he just had a gun and maybe an axe or sword
Yeah, I believe Prime only had his energon blades and ion cannon in TFTM.
So if the toy has the blades, then, I wonder if it will try to incorporate them into the build or instead have them as separate parts.
Posted by Actar on March 1st, 2017 @ 5:57am CST
william-james88 wrote:Jeddostotle7 wrote:Don't forget that this figure might not just be better engineered and designed, but also larger than ROTF, because it'll be in Masterpiece scale like MPM-3 BB is (~1/32), which I think the ROTF Optimus mold might be a bit too short for.
It's the reverse, ROTF will be the bigger one. Hasbro and Takara both stated that this MPM line s supposed to mirror the scale of the MP line, so carbots are the same size and so are Faction Leaders. So since BB is made to be the same size as MP Sideswipe and Wheeljack, MPM Optimus should be the same size as MP Optimus.
So shorter than the ROTF mold
Which makes sense since MPM Optimus is only $20 more than MPM BB, cant be that much taller.
Are we sure about that? According to this random scale chart I found, Prime should be almost twice as tall as Bee (and taller than MP-10) if they want to keep them in scale. Do we have the numbers for MPM Bee yet?
Black Hat wrote:Holy crap, I never knew Actar posted here! *Cue Wayne's World "We're not worthy!" routine*
Haha, you're too kind. (^.^) But yeah, I've been a long time member and Transformers is my second love after anime.
Posted by william-james88 on March 1st, 2017 @ 7:01am CST
Actar wrote:william-james88 wrote:Jeddostotle7 wrote:Don't forget that this figure might not just be better engineered and designed, but also larger than ROTF, because it'll be in Masterpiece scale like MPM-3 BB is (~1/32), which I think the ROTF Optimus mold might be a bit too short for.
It's the reverse, ROTF will be the bigger one. Hasbro and Takara both stated that this MPM line s supposed to mirror the scale of the MP line, so carbots are the same size and so are Faction Leaders. So since BB is made to be the same size as MP Sideswipe and Wheeljack, MPM Optimus should be the same size as MP Optimus.
So shorter than the ROTF mold
Which makes sense since MPM Optimus is only $20 more than MPM BB, cant be that much taller.
Are we sure about that? According to this random scale chart I found, Prime should be almost twice as tall as Bee (and taller than MP-10) if they want to keep them in scale. Do we have the numbers for MPM Bee yet?
They dont want to keep them in scale, they just want to replicate the other MP sizes. Thats what they said they were striving for.
And also, might i remind you Optimus is only 20$ more than BB. What can you possibly expect from that?
Posted by Actar on March 1st, 2017 @ 8:00am CST
william-james88 wrote:And also, might i remind you Optimus is only 20$ more than BB. What can you possibly expect from that?
To be fair, I do recall someone saying that they were following the normal MP prices where the prices of carbots get horribly inflated but the bigger releases remain relatively unchanged.
Posted by Dr Lockdown on March 1st, 2017 @ 9:09am CST
Although I cannot guarantee it, this probably will end up like the last render and become a third-party figure.
Posted by Bumblebee21 on March 1st, 2017 @ 10:27am CST
Dr Lockdown wrote:Big red flag; this is off Weibo. Weibo isn't really the place where these come out of first. You might see a Japanese site show them, but rarely a Chinese one.
Although I cannot guarantee it, this probably will end up like the last render and become a third-party figure.
weibois where a lot of leaks come from
official and third party
Posted by Dr Lockdown on March 1st, 2017 @ 5:11pm CST
Bumblebee21 wrote:Dr Lockdown wrote:Big red flag; this is off Weibo. Weibo isn't really the place where these come out of first. You might see a Japanese site show them, but rarely a Chinese one.
Although I cannot guarantee it, this probably will end up like the last render and become a third-party figure.
weibois where a lot of leaks come from
official and third party
Just saying another leak happened for what we third was a Leader Optimus, but it turned out to be third party. I remember that leak looked suspiciously like this one. I'm still not convinced.
If it is happening, I'm overjoyed, but if not then I'm not surprised.
Posted by Va'al on March 2nd, 2017 @ 3:05am CST
Dr Lockdown wrote:Bumblebee21 wrote:Dr Lockdown wrote:Big red flag; this is off Weibo. Weibo isn't really the place where these come out of first. You might see a Japanese site show them, but rarely a Chinese one.
Although I cannot guarantee it, this probably will end up like the last render and become a third-party figure.
weibois where a lot of leaks come from
official and third party
Just saying another leak happened for what we third was a Leader Optimus, but it turned out to be third party. I remember that leak looked suspiciously like this one. I'm still not convinced.
If it is happening, I'm overjoyed, but if not then I'm not surprised.
It's true, we don't always get sound info - but weibo is way more trustworthy than 4chan for this sort of thing, so we keep an eye on that too.
Posted by Dr Lockdown on March 2nd, 2017 @ 3:25am CST
Va'al wrote:Dr Lockdown wrote:Bumblebee21 wrote:Dr Lockdown wrote:Big red flag; this is off Weibo. Weibo isn't really the place where these come out of first. You might see a Japanese site show them, but rarely a Chinese one.
Although I cannot guarantee it, this probably will end up like the last render and become a third-party figure.
weibois where a lot of leaks come from
official and third party
Just saying another leak happened for what we third was a Leader Optimus, but it turned out to be third party. I remember that leak looked suspiciously like this one. I'm still not convinced.
If it is happening, I'm overjoyed, but if not then I'm not surprised.
**image snipped**
It's true, we don't always get sound info - but weibo is way more trustworthy than 4chan for this sort of thing, so we keep an eye on that too.
Well if it turns out to be true I'll admit I was wrong and be quite happy honestly.
Posted by Emerje on March 2nd, 2017 @ 7:50am CST
Dr Lockdown wrote:Big red flag; this is off Weibo. Weibo isn't really the place where these come out of first. You might see a Japanese site show them, but rarely a Chinese one.
Although I cannot guarantee it, this probably will end up like the last render and become a third-party figure.
Totally agree. How would they even get their hands on this render? Just doesn't add up.
Emerje
Posted by william-james88 on March 2nd, 2017 @ 8:07am CST
Emerje wrote:Dr Lockdown wrote:Big red flag; this is off Weibo. Weibo isn't really the place where these come out of first. You might see a Japanese site show them, but rarely a Chinese one.
Although I cannot guarantee it, this probably will end up like the last render and become a third-party figure.
Totally agree. How would they even get their hands on this render? Just doesn't add up.
Emerje
But isnt this the same guy who put up pics of the Movie Voyager Megatron prototype before it was revealed? Those toys are made in Vietnam too but it was a leak from China.
Posted by Emerje on March 2nd, 2017 @ 8:41am CST
william-james88 wrote:Emerje wrote:Dr Lockdown wrote:Big red flag; this is off Weibo. Weibo isn't really the place where these come out of first. You might see a Japanese site show them, but rarely a Chinese one.
Although I cannot guarantee it, this probably will end up like the last render and become a third-party figure.
Totally agree. How would they even get their hands on this render? Just doesn't add up.
Emerje
But isnt this the same guy who put up pics of the Movie Voyager Megatron prototype before it was revealed? Those toys are made in Vietnam too but it was a leak from China.
No, the guy who first posted the prototypes was "Vector Sigma" on Facebook. The one that posted these CG images is the same person that posted the the ones above for the unofficial AOE/TLK Optimus Prime, Alucard Lee. Even his post for this one is just speculating, not confirming. I just don't find the guy reliable.
Emerje
Posted by william-james88 on March 2nd, 2017 @ 9:35am CST
Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:Emerje wrote:Dr Lockdown wrote:Big red flag; this is off Weibo. Weibo isn't really the place where these come out of first. You might see a Japanese site show them, but rarely a Chinese one.
Although I cannot guarantee it, this probably will end up like the last render and become a third-party figure.
Totally agree. How would they even get their hands on this render? Just doesn't add up.
Emerje
But isnt this the same guy who put up pics of the Movie Voyager Megatron prototype before it was revealed? Those toys are made in Vietnam too but it was a leak from China.
No, the guy who first posted the prototypes was "Vector Sigma" on Facebook. The one that posted these CG images is the same person that posted the the ones above for the unofficial AOE/TLK Optimus Prime, Alucard Lee. Even his post for this one is just speculating, not confirming. I just don't find the guy reliable.
Emerje
Oh, ok. To be honest, I dont really think any of this matters. That image is super blurry and hard to make out and we already know we are getting an MP Optimus. So I don really know what else we can get from this whether real or not, until we see a better image.
What kinda blows though is how it seems Takara wont do a reveal until they release their MB 11. So Japanese fans (and importers) cant really determine which to get between the two.
If anyone wonders why I mention takara instead of Hasbro its because the interviews (with Takara) have really been making it seem like the current MPM line is all their design.