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Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep

Transformers News: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep

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The official Transformers Facebook page has posted official images for the 3 toys revealed this Fan First friday. Here is their post followed by the myriad of places where you can currently preorder them.

Just revealed on FanFirstFriday! Add 3 new StudioSeries ’86 figures to your collection, inspired by The Transformers: The Movie. Featuring Perceptor, Coronation Starscream, and Decepticon Sweep!
Starscream: http://eearth.us/?l=qsqs7x
Perceptor: http://eearth.us/?l=5338x3
Sweep: http://eearth.us/?l=84wdns


The toys are/were also available on Amazon, here are the links

Sweep

Coronation Starscream

Perceptor

You can also get the toys at:

Big Bad Toy Store: https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Lists?Sl ... dPreorders

TF Source: https://tfsource.com/search/view/status ... KjcnBszQri

Ages 3 and up: https://www.agesthreeandup.com/preorders/

Transformers News: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep

Transformers News: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep

Transformers News: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep

Transformers News: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep

Transformers News: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep

Transformers News: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep

Transformers News: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep

Transformers News: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep

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Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112859)
Posted by william-james88 on August 13th, 2021 @ 1:00pm CDT
Wow, you guys are now paying $25 USD for a deluxe.

Overcracker wrote:Question, to those that have TR Perceptor:

Are You getting SS86 P?

Do you see any differences besides the Headmaster gimmick?

Is there enough of an update there for you to get him again?

I never got TR Perceptor, but from what I can tell it does all the same things and has an extra gimmick. Will SS86 Perceptor be worth tracking down?


I will stick with my TR one. I like him having a headmaster that can be on the slap in microscope mode and ride the tank. The G1 toy is still my fave though so having those 2 is all I need.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112860)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 13th, 2021 @ 1:03pm CDT
The difference in deco between Earthrise Starscream and Studio Series 86 Starscream seems pretty minimal. The SS86 version is missing the red and white striping on the blue tail fins and adds two small dark gray rectangles to the top of the jet. Am I missing anything? Maybe the color saturation is slightly tweaked? The only sculpting change I see is the more articulated hands. Is there anything else?
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112862)
Posted by aronjlove on August 13th, 2021 @ 1:05pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Wow, you guys are now paying $25 USD for a deluxe.

And almost $58 for a leader. Looks like Deluxe and Leaders went up 3 bucks while the Voyagers only went up $2. Wonder why the difference?
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112863)
Posted by aronjlove on August 13th, 2021 @ 1:06pm CDT
aronjlove wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Wow, you guys are now paying $25 USD for a deluxe.

And almost $58 for a leader. Looks like Deluxe and Leaders went up 3 bucks while the Voyagers only went up $2. Wonder why the difference?

Bad math, Voyagers went up $2.50. Still less than the other two classes.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112866)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 13th, 2021 @ 1:11pm CDT
I'm all over that Perceptor since it looks fantastic, a little too stoic in the face but I dig it. While it'll kill me to buy that Starscream mold again, I can't pass up the articulated hands, throne, and crown. A coronation Starscream for play if you will.

For those who are a little bummed about no other reveals, perhaps things are delayed due to the overall delays in the world.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112885)
Posted by Nemesis Primal on August 13th, 2021 @ 2:06pm CDT
Overcracker wrote:Question, to those that have TR Perceptor:

Are You getting SS86 P?

Do you see any differences besides the Headmaster gimmick?

Is there enough of an update there for you to get him again?

I never got TR Perceptor, but from what I can tell it does all the same things and has an extra gimmick. Will SS86 Perceptor be worth tracking down?
Absolutely not, IDW Perceptor is best Perceptor, this one just looks like the exact same engineering with a more boring coat of paint & lamer gun. If anything, the existence of this new one makes me more disappointed that the TR one didn't have the full comic-accurate head with the giant targeting eye.

But hey, I'd take a Selects Magnificus outta this new one.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112900)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 13th, 2021 @ 4:11pm CDT
Yeah I'm definitely picking up that Perceptor. I like the TR figure, but this one is just more accurate and looks better in the renders.

When I preordered him on Amazon, I was taken directly to my orders page, where I still have Slag, Slammer and Pipes waiting. So I clicked on the order, and saw that Slag is now listed at $80 and Pipes and Slammer are listed as unavailable. I wonder if this affects my preorder in any way... :-?
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112903)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 13th, 2021 @ 4:33pm CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:
Overcracker wrote:Question, to those that have TR Perceptor:

Are You getting SS86 P?

Do you see any differences besides the Headmaster gimmick?

Is there enough of an update there for you to get him again?

I never got TR Perceptor, but from what I can tell it does all the same things and has an extra gimmick. Will SS86 Perceptor be worth tracking down?
Absolutely not, IDW Perceptor is best Perceptor, this one just looks like the exact same engineering with a more boring coat of paint & lamer gun. If anything, the existence of this new one makes me more disappointed that the TR one didn't have the full comic-accurate head with the giant targeting eye.

But hey, I'd take a Selects Magnificus outta this new one.


Use the GI Joe buck to make an updated version of his partner.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112905)
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on August 13th, 2021 @ 4:51pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:So I clicked on the order, and saw that Slag is now listed at $80 and Pipes and Slammer are listed as unavailable. I wonder if this affects my preorder in any way... :-?


No, your order should be locked in on whatever the price was when you pre-ordered. If it is showing at $80 now on the product page, that is most likely because Amazon themselves are out of stock and a 3rd party seller is selling at that price. Your order summary will tell you what price you locked in tour pre-order for.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112911)
Posted by Quantum Surge on August 13th, 2021 @ 5:44pm CDT
Only pre-ordered Perceptor. IDK if I really want the Sweep and Coronation Starscream may be the only Studio Series figure I skip entirely, 86 or not.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112913)
Posted by william-james88 on August 13th, 2021 @ 6:09pm CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote: Absolutely not, IDW Perceptor is best Perceptor, this one just looks like the exact same engineering with a more boring coat of paint & lamer gun. If anything, the existence of this new one makes me more disappointed that the TR one didn't have the full comic-accurate head with the giant targeting eye.

But hey, I'd take a Selects Magnificus outta this new one.


I feel the same way. I also really like the sniper rifle accessory we got with the TR one.

As for Magnificus, that would be nice IF the magnification knobs were removeable. Because the whole point of Magnificus (i.e. original Microchange toy) is that he could actually become a decent looking tank that rolled. And to do that, you had to remove the knobs.

In truth, the Microchange toy was a quadruple changer.
Robot
Microscope
Mobile Telescope
Tank

Image

The G1 Perceptor toy could do those 4 modes as well.

What people are calling a tank mode here is the mobile telescope mode.

That's not a tank, this is a tank

Image

And if those knobs can't be removed from this SS86 one, then it can't become the actual tank either.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112917)
Posted by alekese on August 13th, 2021 @ 6:55pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:As for Magnificus, that would be nice IF the magnification knobs were removeable. Because the whole point of Magnificus (i.e. original Microchange toy) is that he could actually become a decent looking tank that rolled. And to do that, you had to remove the knobs.

From the renders, it looks like percy uses the wfc accessory pores system; you can see them on his soles, the sides of his lower legs, and his shoulders. If the pattern holds true, then there should be holes on his forearms right where the knobs are, with the knobs being removable. So even money on whether they're removable or not, with how inconsistent hasbro is. Wait ~2 months for the first in hands to leak to be sure.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112921)
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on August 13th, 2021 @ 7:44pm CDT
alekese wrote:
william-james88 wrote:As for Magnificus, that would be nice IF the magnification knobs were removeable. Because the whole point of Magnificus (i.e. original Microchange toy) is that he could actually become a decent looking tank that rolled. And to do that, you had to remove the knobs.

From the renders, it looks like percy uses the wfc accessory pores system; you can see them on his soles, the sides of his lower legs, and his shoulders. If the pattern holds true, then there should be holes on his forearms right where the knobs are, with the knobs being removable.

The knobs are oddly placed on the forearms. I feel like if they weren't removable, they'd be thicker and mounted closer to the arm, but they sit on that little raised bit which may give it space for a peghole. If all three knobs are accessories, that'd mean there's a third peghole on top of the scope.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112922)
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 13th, 2021 @ 7:46pm CDT
Not sure about SS, as I've got the original. Although I would prefer a version of Perceptor that was both G1 accurate and wasn't a headmaster, I've already got the TR one. Strangely, the one in most interested in is the Sweep, even though I've got the various and previous versions of Scourge that can double as Sweeps.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112925)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 13th, 2021 @ 8:05pm CDT
Razorbeast88 wrote:I'm on the fence if I want to pay $20 extra for Starscream or just get ER version (if I can find for $30)

I prefer ss86's paintjob, hands, and the accessories are cool though idk how much i'd use them. The more I look at ss86 the more it grows on me. Maybe I'll have to wait to see it in-hand

Because I can also wait and get the upcoming Armada starscream instead, but I'm already getting the ER Seekers so the trio would be a bit off



I'll need to see more photos, but from what I can tell, I'd go with the ER version...
Unless you think the extras are that cool.
No way am I spending $50+ on this guy. I do appreciate the hands. But he's essentially the ER version anyway (again, from what I can see).

I preordered Perceptor, and like the look of him a lot.
I've had 2 Sweeps preordered since that was possible.
Seems like a long ways off, but it's nice knowing there are things to look forward to early next year!
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112926)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on August 13th, 2021 @ 8:10pm CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:I'm on the fence if I want to pay $20 extra for Starscream or just get ER version (if I can find for $30)

I prefer ss86's paintjob, hands, and the accessories are cool though idk how much i'd use them. The more I look at ss86 the more it grows on me. Maybe I'll have to wait to see it in-hand

Because I can also wait and get the upcoming Armada starscream instead, but I'm already getting the ER Seekers so the trio would be a bit off



I'll need to see more photos, but from what I can tell, I'd go with the ER version...
Unless you think the extras are that cool.
No way am I spending $50+ on this guy. I do appreciate the hands. But he's essentially the ER version anyway (again, from what I can see).

I preordered Perceptor, and like the look of him a lot.
I've had 2 Sweeps preordered since that was possible.
Seems like a long ways off, but it's nice knowing there are things to look forward to early next year!


I appreciate the advice!
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112934)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 13th, 2021 @ 8:51pm CDT
Razorbeast88 wrote:
I appreciate the advice!


No prob! I am being more and more cost-aware these days... Although, looking back, I pretty much always have been. But now that prices are going up, even more so...
Point being that the $20 you save is most likely going to go towards another figure, right?
At some point eventually?
I personally would never be able to say that those pack-in's are as good as another figure.
Like having that stuff is as good as having SS86 Perceptor?? Or Legacy Kickback???
For me that's not even close.
It also comes down to this-- just because I have the money to spend, doesn't mean I want to.
Meaning it still doesn't sit well with me that a deluxe is now $25.
I'm doing it and as of now not backing out, but it just seems wrong that to have 3 Sharkticons is costing me $75.

I know everyone's different, living different lives, with different financial goals and limitations.
I guess I'm about to the point where it's getting very difficult to justify so much $$$$ being spent on toys.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112939)
Posted by Razorbeast88 on August 13th, 2021 @ 9:26pm CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:
I appreciate the advice!


No prob! I am being more and more cost-aware these days... Although, looking back, I pretty much always have been. But now that prices are going up, even more so...
Point being that the $20 you save is most likely going to go towards another figure, right?
At some point eventually?
I personally would never be able to say that those pack-in's are as good as another figure.
Like having that stuff is as good as having SS86 Perceptor?? Or Legacy Kickback???
For me that's not even close.
It also comes down to this-- just because I have the money to spend, doesn't mean I want to.
Meaning it still doesn't sit well with me that a deluxe is now $25.
I'm doing it and as of now not backing out, but it just seems wrong that to have 3 Sharkticons is costing me $75.

I know everyone's different, living different lives, with different financial goals and limitations.
I guess I'm about to the point where it's getting very difficult to justify so much $$$$ being spent on toys.


Well said! Those $20 would definitely end up on another figure! Like perceptor or shadow panther or pipes
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112942)
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 13th, 2021 @ 9:53pm CDT
I suppose it's a "glass half empty/full" POV, but I'm not really happy with things like SS.l in this form. The paint job is minimally different, at best and I feel a little outspoken for saying it's "to little, too late" to warrant a second purchase.

For me, the hands and paint job should have been on the original. I just feel like such a release isn't going to sell well and will be a waste of engineering for this mold...
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112946)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 13th, 2021 @ 11:01pm CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:I suppose it's a "glass half empty/full" POV, but I'm not really happy with things like SS.l in this form. The paint job is minimally different, at best and I feel a little outspoken for saying it's "to little, too late" to warrant a second purchase.

For me, the hands and paint job should have been on the original. I just feel like such a release isn't going to sell well and will be a waste of engineering for this mold...


I understand why any improvements weren’t done with the ER mold, but I have to agree;
I find it difficult to believe this will sell well.
I hope I’m wrong…

Also, forgot to mention earlier…
The official images shared earlier today had the banner as only, “Studio Series”,
sans 86… Is the 86 possibly being dropped as a way of saying this subline is going to continue well beyond expected?
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112948)
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 13th, 2021 @ 11:03pm CDT
Just saw this at Discord.
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Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112954)
Posted by Changewinds on August 14th, 2021 @ 12:04am CDT
Preordering the Perceptor since I don’t have any other version of him. I don’t have Starscream yet either, but not interested in the extras. I had several chances to buy ER SS, but passed him up; wasn’t a fan of some of the gaps he has. Interesting that Scourge was hard to find for some. Around here, he and Hot Rod were plentiful, though only at certain Target stores.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112965)
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on August 14th, 2021 @ 3:34am CDT
I'm glad I waited for Coronation Starscream. Didn't pick up ER Screamer because I was waiting for this version, and I gotta say I think it paid off. I like the changes they made, plus I'm planning to, at least once, put all the coronation gear on ER Thundercracker so my favorite Seeker can look fabulous, at least once :lol: I like that he's also getting the new hands, and it makes me wonder if maybe from now on, figures that are smaller than usual for the size class might get more articulated hands, because it holds true from ER Prime, SS Hot Rod, Kingdom Rodimus and Primal, and now SS Starscream
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112966)
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 14th, 2021 @ 4:23am CDT
Sentinel_Primal wrote:I'm glad I waited for Coronation Starscream. Didn't pick up ER Screamer because I was waiting for this version, and I gotta say I think it paid off.


I'm sorry, but how did you know about Coronation Starscream at the time of the Earthrise release? Did you come by some insider information that no one else in the TF community was privvy to?
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112967)
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 14th, 2021 @ 4:25am CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:I'm glad I waited for Coronation Starscream. Didn't pick up ER Screamer because I was waiting for this version, and I gotta say I think it paid off.


I'm sorry, but how did you know about Coronation Starscream at the time of the Earthrise release? Did you come by some insider information that no one else in the TF community was privvy to?

If i recall, this Starscream was leaked last year as existing (though price points were up in the air) we've known about him long enough to have had full discussions about what he was going to come with or er retool before the throne information came to light this spring.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112968)
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 14th, 2021 @ 4:27am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:I'm glad I waited for Coronation Starscream. Didn't pick up ER Screamer because I was waiting for this version, and I gotta say I think it paid off.


I'm sorry, but how did you know about Coronation Starscream at the time of the Earthrise release? Did you come by some insider information that no one else in the TF community was privvy to?

If i recall, this Starscream was leaked last year as existing (though price points were up in the air) we've known about him long enough to have had full discussions about what he was going to come with or er retool before the throne information came to light this spring.


Really? This is the first I've heard of this. Thanks for the clarification. If I'd known, I would have waited for this version too.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112973)
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 14th, 2021 @ 7:23am CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:I'm glad I waited for Coronation Starscream. Didn't pick up ER Screamer because I was waiting for this version, and I gotta say I think it paid off.


I'm sorry, but how did you know about Coronation Starscream at the time of the Earthrise release? Did you come by some insider information that no one else in the TF community was privvy to?

If i recall, this Starscream was leaked last year as existing (though price points were up in the air) we've known about him long enough to have had full discussions about what he was going to come with or er retool before the throne information came to light this spring.


Really? This is the first I've heard of this. Thanks for the clarification. If I'd known, I would have waited for this version too.

No problem :)

If I was to buy it, I'd be given the throne to Megatron.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112976)
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 14th, 2021 @ 8:19am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
Sentinel_Primal wrote:I'm glad I waited for Coronation Starscream. Didn't pick up ER Screamer because I was waiting for this version, and I gotta say I think it paid off.


I'm sorry, but how did you know about Coronation Starscream at the time of the Earthrise release? Did you come by some insider information that no one else in the TF community was privvy to?

If i recall, this Starscream was leaked last year as existing (though price points were up in the air) we've known about him long enough to have had full discussions about what he was going to come with or er retool before the throne information came to light this spring.


Really? This is the first I've heard of this. Thanks for the clarification. If I'd known, I would have waited for this version too.

No problem :)

If I was to buy it, I'd be given the throne to Megatron.


Galvatron, surely?
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112977)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 14th, 2021 @ 8:23am CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:Galvatron, surely?
The throne is actually the captain's chair of the Nemesis, upon which Megatron sat in the first episode.

Image
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112978)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on August 14th, 2021 @ 9:07am CDT
I know a lot of people are complaining about the price, but I think the throne was a great addition to justify it. There isn't even a throne in the coronation scene, but it's a very popular unlicensed accessory, so it makes sense as an accessory pack add-on.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112979)
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 14th, 2021 @ 9:29am CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:I know a lot of people are complaining about the price, but I think the throne was a great addition to justify it. There isn't even a throne in the coronation scene, but it's a very popular unlicensed accessory, so it makes sense as an accessory pack add-on.


That's not really the point for those that are complaining, I think. The point is that the accessories, however good they might be, are coming with a figure many of us have already got (and that said figure isn't really that significantly different enough), thus limiting the appeal.

If these accessories came with a substantially repainted SS (metallic paint, clear plastic, etc), as a different character, a different toy or even by themselves, then I think more people would be happier.

It reminds me of the recent blunders Hasblo has made regarding releasing toys that fans want (clear purple Fossilizer, Fangry, etc) in bundles with toys that many fans didn't. It gives the impression Hasblo is "milking" the fans, and it's not cool.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112980)
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 14th, 2021 @ 9:41am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:Galvatron, surely?
The throne is actually the captain's chair of the Nemesis, upon which Megatron sat in the first episode.

Image

Nailed it again.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112984)
Posted by AcademyofDrX on August 14th, 2021 @ 10:23am CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:I know a lot of people are complaining about the price, but I think the throne was a great addition to justify it. There isn't even a throne in the coronation scene, but it's a very popular unlicensed accessory, so it makes sense as an accessory pack add-on.


That's not really the point for those that are complaining, I think. The point is that the accessories, however good they might be, are coming with a figure many of us have already got (and that said figure isn't really that significantly different enough), thus limiting the appeal.

If these accessories came with a substantially repainted SS (metallic paint, clear plastic, etc), as a different character, a different toy or even by themselves, then I think more people would be happier.

It reminds me of the recent blunders Hasblo has made regarding releasing toys that fans want (clear purple Fossilizer, Fangry, etc) in bundles with toys that many fans didn't. It gives the impression Hasblo is "milking" the fans, and it's not cool.

"Blunders" lol.

Whatever, if it's not worth the price, don't buy it. I already have six Earthrise seekers, another one isn't going to kill me.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112986)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 14th, 2021 @ 11:06am CDT
AcademyofDrX wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
AcademyofDrX wrote:I know a lot of people are complaining about the price, but I think the throne was a great addition to justify it. There isn't even a throne in the coronation scene, but it's a very popular unlicensed accessory, so it makes sense as an accessory pack add-on.


That's not really the point for those that are complaining, I think. The point is that the accessories, however good they might be, are coming with a figure many of us have already got (and that said figure isn't really that significantly different enough), thus limiting the appeal.

If these accessories came with a substantially repainted SS (metallic paint, clear plastic, etc), as a different character, a different toy or even by themselves, then I think more people would be happier.

It reminds me of the recent blunders Hasblo has made regarding releasing toys that fans want (clear purple Fossilizer, Fangry, etc) in bundles with toys that many fans didn't. It gives the impression Hasblo is "milking" the fans, and it's not cool.

"Blunders" lol.

Whatever, if it's not worth the price, don't buy it. I already have six Earthrise seekers, another one isn't going to kill me.


I'm sure others share your perspective, but I'm betting just as many don't.
I have six ER seekers, but that's not even the majority of why I don't want this SS.
I don't think I'd buy this version if it were only $30...
"But you could sell off this, that, and the other....". Nope.
Imo none of these extras are worth that hassle.
It's great that they at least included a recognizable throne...
But as primalxconvoy said, it's the whole package that ends up being a letdown.
Not to mention, IF the photo renders are accurate, SS isn't even completely sitting on the throne because of his wings...
And even if the throne works well for Megatron, still not worth it for me.
The hinges and pins in the coronation cape make that look odd. Probably for storage (or even packaging), but if it's at all intended for articulation, seems very weird to have a perfectly straight crease in what's supposed to be a flowing, fabric cape.

But for those who are looking forward to this, that's great.
This is for sure related to a big scene in the movie.
And knowing it's releases like this that help make new molds possible, by all means, buy this guy! Hell, buy two copies!!
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112993)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 14th, 2021 @ 12:21pm CDT
Earthrise Starscream was nearly impossible to find in my neck of the woods. Nothing but a sea of Grapples as far as the eye could see. So I welcome this Coronation Starscream with open arms and will gladly add it to my collection that currently lacks an Earthrise Starscream.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112994)
Posted by Overcracker on August 14th, 2021 @ 12:43pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Earthrise Starscream was nearly impossible to find in my neck of the woods. Nothing but a sea of Grapples as far as the eye could see. So I welcome this Coronation Starscream with open arms and will gladly add it to my collection that currently lacks an Earthrise Starscream.


Here, here. Same for me. Never saw Starscream at all.

I welcome this version with all the accoutrements.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2112998)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 14th, 2021 @ 1:30pm CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:
Razorbeast88 wrote:
I appreciate the advice!


No prob! I am being more and more cost-aware these days... Although, looking back, I pretty much always have been. But now that prices are going up, even more so...
Point being that the $20 you save is most likely going to go towards another figure, right?
At some point eventually?
I personally would never be able to say that those pack-in's are as good as another figure.
Like having that stuff is as good as having SS86 Perceptor?? Or Legacy Kickback???
For me that's not even close.
It also comes down to this-- just because I have the money to spend, doesn't mean I want to.
Meaning it still doesn't sit well with me that a deluxe is now $25.
I'm doing it and as of now not backing out, but it just seems wrong that to have 3 Sharkticons is costing me $75.

I know everyone's different, living different lives, with different financial goals and limitations.
I guess I'm about to the point where it's getting very difficult to justify so much $$$$ being spent on toys.


Ya know, you can do what I'm doing. There are already two very good Gnaw figures out and about, the Cyberverse Warrior figure and the Titans Return version, three if you count the Legends repaint. The Cyberverse figure is really, really fun, and don't forget the TR Gnaw was used in the Pit of Judgement set. I think you can find the Cyberverse figure for well under $20 if not $15 since it was released in two sublines, and I'm confident there's a loose TR Gnaw on eBay for cheap. Then you only need the one SS86 Gnaw.

By the way, we're 100% certain that Starscream's throne is plastic right?
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2113010)
Posted by Railbomb on August 14th, 2021 @ 4:08pm CDT
Coronation Starscream is what's finally going to get me to replace that janky leader one from Combiner Wars. Passed up on the Tetrajet since I don't really care for the design, and wasn't really excited to see all the same G1 characters show in Earthrise again killing my excitement for the mold at the time. Even though it technically won't scale right I'm sure the throne will look good with the rumored TM2 Megatron as well, just would need a Covenant of Primus to go with him.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2113055)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on August 14th, 2021 @ 9:00pm CDT
I wonder how many people will get the leader set just for the throne, whether they already have ER Screamer or not. I mean, IMO that throne belongs to someone else, not him.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2113061)
Posted by Nuclearxpotato on August 14th, 2021 @ 11:12pm CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:It reminds me of the recent blunders Hasblo has made regarding releasing toys that fans want (clear purple Fossilizer, Fangry, etc) in bundles with toys that many fans didn't. It gives the impression Hasblo is "milking" the fans, and it's not cool.


Did you just start collecting yesterday? That's the entire point with Multi-packs, it's been happening since Generations even began.
Think back to TR, the clones were a worse offender than anything that's happened recently.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2113064)
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 15th, 2021 @ 12:30am CDT
Nuclearxpotato wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:It reminds me of the recent blunders Hasblo has made regarding releasing toys that fans want (clear purple Fossilizer, Fangry, etc) in bundles with toys that many fans didn't. It gives the impression Hasblo is "milking" the fans, and it's not cool.


Did you just start collecting yesterday? That's the entire point with Multi-packs, it's been happening since Generations even began.
Think back to TR, the clones were a worse offender than anything that's happened recently.


Of course, the clones (in the USA) were a much-discussed, similar "blunder". However, Hasblo rectified that by releasing them individually, and I think, as a 2-pack (RIP)?

However, I feel the Fangry multi-pack is just as bad as the multi-packs you mentioned.

As for me, in Japan, we've not had the multipack problem per-sec, as far as I recall, but now Bakara has started to release Hasblo versions of TFs, we've had to suffer a similar fate to our non-Japanese counterparts.

And as for collecting, if I ignore my childhood, I've been collecting for about 20 years.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2113106)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 15th, 2021 @ 1:49pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Ya know, you can do what I'm doing. There are already two very good Gnaw figures out and about, the Cyberverse Warrior figure and the Titans Return version, three if you count the Legends repaint. The Cyberverse figure is really, really fun, and don't forget the TR Gnaw was used in the Pit of Judgement set. I think you can find the Cyberverse figure for well under $20 if not $15 since it was released in two sublines, and I'm confident there's a loose TR Gnaw on eBay for cheap. Then you only need the one SS86 Gnaw.

By the way, we're 100% certain that Starscream's throne is plastic right?



I have the TR version (still sealed)... I just like the appearance of this SS86 version so much more...
So like I said, I'm good with making this purchase (even though cost doesn't make it feel real good), but I've decided these three and the two Sweeps I've preordered will be the only troop building I ever do.
I'm so happy with some of these figures that I really can't think of the improvements (what or how) that would need to happen in order for me to want another Cyclonus, Hot Rod, Jazz, Grimlock, etc.
Not to mention, IF better versions happen, it still probably wouldn't be worth it to me because at that point the costs will have gone up again!
The articulation is more than enough, I don't need these figures to be larger, and I wouldn't like it if they were smaller.
They're just that good imo!!!

I'm going to assume the throne packed with Starscream is plastic... Hopefully not too cheaply made.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2113122)
Posted by Starseeker on August 15th, 2021 @ 4:08pm CDT
Well Starscream is my favorite character, so I'll definitely be getting him. I have the Earthrise figure, and I don't care. The more Screamer, the better, especially decked out in coronation awesomness!
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2113257)
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 16th, 2021 @ 1:33pm CDT
I think it's awesome if people want this version of SS.
I don't think there's anything bad about it per se...

$53 seems like a steep price tag imo for what's included.
On top of the fact that it looks like I'll be buying more than I had anticipated from the end of this year through the next.

Here's what I have on queue:

The Ark (just showed up 3 days ago)
Slag
Wreck-gar
Gnaw x3
Sweeps x2
Selects Galvatron

Coming up ("most likely going to happen" purchases):
Repacked Kup
Rumble
Dragstrip
Wild Rider
Kickback
Perceptor (already preordered)
Blaster
Motormaster

Maybe's:
Pipes
Selects/Exclusive Bluestreak

Unconfirmed (but possibly for 2022):
Swoop
Sludge
Snarl
Dead End
Breakdown
Bombshell
Shrapnel

There's sure to be at least 1 more "most likely..." that we just don't know about yet.

$730 is what that list of figures will cost
(add $46-ish if I do get Pipes and Bluestreak, and that total doesn't include the Ark or taxes. It also has each voyager at $30 each; not sure if that price is going to go up next year).

Some would say, "What's another $53 when you're spending that much, and with SS86 SS you get accessories that won't ever be packed with another figure?".
My mindset is the exact opposite... Spending $730+ (I'm sure it'll be closer to $800 by the end of 2022) means I'm trying to save anywhere and everywhere that I can. I'm not okay ending up with a figure that I look at and think, "mehhh".
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2113872)
Posted by Till-all-R1 on August 23rd, 2021 @ 1:58pm CDT
Really dig the new Perceptor, only I was hoping it would be Blaster first as none of the existing ones really capture the character for me. Still I'm looking forward to the new Perceptor and hope that a few more get done before they totally move on.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2114324)
Posted by Mkdlmr on August 27th, 2021 @ 6:19pm CDT
Any word on a potential titan-class studio series 86 figure?

I swear I've seen talk of Devastator, but I would love to see a more affordable titan-class Unicron...
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2114337)
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 27th, 2021 @ 7:20pm CDT
As much as I'd like to see such a Unicron figure, could you imagine the Jupiter-proportioned sh*t-storm that would blow through this board if one were made so soon to the release of the Pulse version?
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2114339)
Posted by ZeroWolf on August 27th, 2021 @ 7:22pm CDT
Mkdlmr wrote:Any word on a potential titan-class studio series 86 figure?

I swear I've seen talk of Devastator, but I would love to see a more affordable titan-class Unicron...

Nothing about a studio Series Titan Class I'm afraid, technically you already have Combiner Wars Titan Class Devestator to stand in for a 86 devy (indeed, this is why I think it was reissued this year, because of his part in the film). As for Unicron, I'll never say never but I can't see them doing a Titan Class Unicron for a little while longer yet. They only shipped HasLab Unicron this year so they'll probably wait a few years before tapping that well again.
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2114340)
Posted by Mkdlmr on August 27th, 2021 @ 7:24pm CDT
primalxconvoy wrote:As much as I'd like to see such a Unicron figure, could you imagine the Jupiter-proportioned sh*t-storm that would blow through this board if one were made so soon to the release of the Pulse version?


[Intended as playful sarcasm]

Oh no, you spent $650 for a 30" masterpiece quality unicron... Why are you bent out-of-shape over people getting a 24" siege quality unicron?

But in all seriousness, I'd probably give someone $650 [includes shipping] for a haslab unicron [missed the boat :-(], but that'll never happen because he goes for double that...
Re: Preorders and Official Pics for Transformers SS 86 Leader Starscream, Perceptor and Sweep (2114343)
Posted by primalxconvoy on August 27th, 2021 @ 7:36pm CDT
Have you seen the disgusting prices some @rse-clowns are charging for the Gen-Sel Dirge/Ramjet packs?

I hope they fail to sell every single one of them and suffer financially to boot. Subhuman scum, every single last one of those sellers.

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